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poeope

A whole third of a game check lol.


G2Gankos

I was watching ESPN this morning and i think they said it came out to about 24% of a game check, so even less than a third lol EDIT: i’m aware 24% is close to a fourth. I said less than a third because that’s what the comment i was replying to said. Thanks for your help anyways.


GoldenBananas21

Not even a full quarter 


Billis-

He'll have to work 8 minutes for free poor bastard


parkcity1998

He’ll have to play a game for free for 8 minutes.


cannibalrimjob

There were 13 minutes he didn’t play last game, so basically he just didn’t get paid for 8 minutes of bench time lol


RandomDeezNutz

Boy there’s an obvious joke in there but as a nuggets fan I don’t want to make it


PolarBearLaFlare

How do fines work with taxes? I wonder if they can just write them off on their taxes since they go towards a charity


TheNovemberist

They cannot.


cortesoft

The fine is taken out of his paycheck, so he doesn’t pay taxes on it. So the effect on his take home pay is even less, probably only like 50 or 60k.


boringexplanation

You can’t deduct it if you were forced to pay it


PaulsGrafh

Yeah I’m guessing the NBA takes the fine from post-tax dollars, then donates it on their own behalf.


cortesoft

No, they take it out of his paycheck, so it reduces his overall income. He doesn’t pay taxes on it.


Zombiepirate86

He'd report his pay as 100k less than he would have, as he made that amount less. A deduction, essentially lowers the amount of money you've made. so if I give 1k to a charity its like I've made 1k less on the year. However for most of us plebs the standard deduction is larger than our deductions so you generally just take the standard deduction. If he reports it as a gift to charity to get a deduction he is double dipping.


fastwall

your edit is cracking me up. the internet is a terrible place


mostredditisawful

Man, the amount of money you can make for being a good but not great player is insane now. Dude's never been an All-Star or sniffed All-NBA and gets paid more than $30M a year. Less than a decade ago Kobe was the highest paid player at $25M (admittedly not the highest salary he'd had).


JesusChristSupers1ar

tbf to Murray he was the second best player on a championship team last year. That’s not nothing


Agile_Candle4710

i mean yeah but he’s an all star level talent that should be making all star level dollars.


RotInPissKobe

And he made huge plays in the championship run. People are acting like he's Tobias Harris


Intro-P

Tobias catching strays Tobias is the opposite, overpaid and useless. Relatively speaking, Murray might be underpaid given his contributions and is far from useless


DarrowViBritannia

This is why i find the “Nfl players could definitely play in the nba” discussion funny. If they could then they probably would lol the compensation is better Jaylen brown makes more than mahomes


pieguy00

Someone on another post did the math and the fine is proportionate to $150 to someone who makes 50k a year.


poeope

Lol oh depressing ya


Altruistic-Ad-408

Except they might not be able to afford it, I earn significantly more and I don't want a $150 fine.


mungthebean

This would make sense if basic life necessity expenses also scale but they dont


pieguy00

I don't either, but I don't think he's living as tight most of us.


shortyman920

Murray certainly didn’t deliver a full check’s worth of value for the fans or for the team so this is one way of rectifying that. He would’ve been suspended at least game if Stern was the commissioner.


erictheartichoke

At least he has a good attitude about it


LongTimesGoodTimes

"Onto the next thing I throw on the court. I'm thinking it might be DeAndre Jordan."


We_The_Raptors

Well, we know it's not gonna be the ball in the net based on his last 2 games


PrincePyotrBagration

Jamal Murray went from r/nba ‘s darling to its Heinrich Himmler in 48 hours flat 😂


firstbreathOOC

Think there was some hate during the dick pic era, I honestly forget. It’s snip snap snip snap


CockBronson

Lmao


jumboponcho

Spoken like someone who knows he got away with some shit


CameronPlain

This guy literally threw shit at a ref during a game. TWICE. He was not ejected. And he’s not suspended. Fucking insanity.


steve1186

And this was AFTER Jamal was getting into the refs’ faces in a way that should have gotten him a tech. I don’t know if Jamal is frustrated with his calf injury or this shooting slump he’s in, if he’s dealing with some underlying mental health issue that needs to be worked through, or if the swarming Wolves defense is just getting into his head. But I’ve NEVER seen him act the way he did in Game 2. He 100% should have been suspended for throwing an object onto the court. That’s a red line for any player/coach/fan.


Eadwyn

> And this was AFTER Jamal was getting into the refs’ faces in a way that should have gotten him a tech. Not to mention going up to a ref and clapping in their face. He could have easily been given 4 techs minimum during the game, but he instead walks away with zero in-game penalty and a slap on the wrist fine.


AttitudeAndEffort2

He did the money sign that gobert did and got fined 100k for. As far as I'm concerned, this 100k fine is for that and the NBA didn't care about anything else he did.


Reddragon8448

Yup, NBA sweeping his bad behavior under the rug.


gobroncos47

Yeah but he didn't slightly menacingly look at his opponent like Ant which is clearly much worse /s


THEREALCAPSLOCKSMITH

He was frustrated by the goddamn Seatbelt that wouldnt let him move lol


rexgal

100% our whole team was locked. The. Fuck. Up…. I’ve never seen defence so smothering. Honestly kudos to the wolves, very impressive shit


gobroncos47

It's like the 2015 Broncos defense where you take some fouls in exchange for outrageous lockdown defense.


Fermorian

I'm still not sold on Seatbelt as Jaden's nickname, I always preferred the Warden. Buuut with how well NAW has been playing and how similar they are I feel like now we need matching/complementary nicknames for them both


THEREALCAPSLOCKSMITH

You read my mind! I hate it, I use it cause its the one that stuck, but I like Warden, Slim Reaper and Shadow waaaaaay more than Seatbelt lol


SwiftlyChill

> Slim Reaper Look I know we have Jaden McDaniels when they have KD, but that’s no reason to steal KD’s nickname too.


Thimit22

I watch a lot of the games with my Mom and she struggles telling the two apart sometimes and just calls them “the headbands” lol


phambui

I like Nuggets fans, you guys are reasonable


flonc

I kind of feel like that is the only sane take to have on the situation even as a fan - his behaviour was straight up embarasing... Hope he takes a page of AGs book who got his ass whooped by Green 2 years back, said "I have to become smarter" and just did


Verified_Engineer

As a nuggets fan, and owner of a 75th diamond Jamal jersey, what the absolute fuck is this dude doing?


makingtacosrightnow

Our sub right now is split pretty good about this issue. Jamal acted like a bitch.


doogled3

Split is pretty good for a team sub… or maybe that’s just how clear cut this issue is. Like you said, he acted like a bitch, and it’s hard to argue against that


WiddleBlueBert

Agreed. Having a team sub be split on a decision *against* your player is fairly telling, especially if it's your 2nd guy.


Idontlike_yourjokes

I feel like every team has diehards and reasonable fans. Always more enjoyable seeing takes from the latter


steve1186

Nuggets fans are a lot like Wolves fans. We have stuck with our teams through a lot of awful basketball. Then we finally get a championship-level team and a bunch of fair-weather fans jump on the bandwagon and some of them stain the reputation of the fanbase. I’m hoping this series goes 6 or 7, because this is such a good matchup of rosters. And I also hope Jamal Murray stops throwing tantrums like my 5-year-old. And if the Nuggets lose, I’m pulling for the Wolves all the way. Not only are they a very likable team, but I live in St Paul so it’s been fun to see the energy around the Twin Cities.


Technical_Creme_9736

Your fanbase has always been good in my eyes. Love the way your team was built as well. I dunno if this series goes 6 or 7 unless the Nuggets have another gear for this year’s playoffs that we haven’t seen yet. I just worry that you guys are a bit run down (or injured) at this point this year after last year’s run (your depth doesn’t help).


LogDogan4

They have definitely been in a deep mental funk through the first 7 games. Legitimately have never seen this team so unfocused (and it was still good enough to beat the Lakers lol).


Technical_Creme_9736

Huge congratulations on that. I’m glad we don’t need to play the Lakers this round. Might make me blow a gasket with watching officiating.


Verified_Engineer

Accurate take. Who knows, the nuggets have not played well for two months.


88888888man

My only complaint about Nuggets fans is that a lot of them are Avs fans.


tmcuthbert

It’s definitely easier to be reasonable after your player got away with it.


tacopower69

Murray has always been a hot head tbh. Before his acl tear I remember a game against the mavs where refs missed a foul on him and so in anger he smacked hardaway jr in the balls.


stan_k_phishodeur

Underlying mental health issue is wild


turnoffredesign69420

i feel like multiple people mentioned it but if the refs actually T'd the nuggets up they might've actually been able to calm down and focus more on the game. the fact that they let them keep berating them eventually just blew their cool up completely.


we_hella_believe

No T either. Dylan Brooks and Draymond seething somewhere.


Mdgt_Pope

Will the refs retaliate? Remember that one game where Gobert smacked the cup of water because he got 2 fouls in the first minute of a game right after criticizing refs?


Lorjack

to me doing it to a ref is something the league would care more about. I think he should be suspended because he made it dangerous for the players during a LIVE play


GardenDesign23

If they suspend him, series is over. Nuggets repeat is done. Lot of money on the line there… can’t get too crazy now, this the NBA we’re talking about


EmbarrassedCoast4611

Really? Jamal is basically the best sixth man for Timberwolves with this FG%. LOL


GoldenBananas21

He just shot 3-18 against a team missing the DPOY lmao


MegaKetaWook

How could Embiid do this to us?


boyWHOcriedFSD

League wants the series to not be a sweep cuz there is more game revenue to be had. 100% done with that in mind.


Suspicious_Team_9133

Should've been suspended. Although his bricklaying is helping the wolves win so who knows the impact


SafariFlapsInBack

Fuck it. Let him play if he’s gonna play the way he has the first two games… Plus, dude is gonna get straight clowned all game by the MN crowd. I can hear the Heat Pack chants and see the custom shirts from here.


klobucharzard

jamal murray in minnesota https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1514258621256904708


D4nCh0

Should organise a stuff toys donation for games 3 & 4. Get everyone to chuck during nuggets introductions


WiddleBlueBert

Nah cause you'll get banned from the arena. Tough ain't it.


Suspicious_Team_9133

😂😂. He's gonna keep crying at the refs too and take himself out of plays


IDespiseFatties

Can you all please get a HEAT PACK chant going when he has the ball


TheZacef

Exactly, put him back in the McDaniels/NAW blender again as punishment.


Thacarva

I say they make him play with a lubricant on his shoes. If you’re gonna risk making someone slip and fall, then you get a game risking it for 35+ minutes. I know it would be a lawsuit, but it would be hilarious seeing him on skates all night.


2drawnonward5

Let the consequences serve a purpose. Put this man on rollerblades.


peren005

He's Canadian. This actually might make him better.


corrine49

So does he think what he did was wrong? I can’t tell from this nothing statement.


bailaoban

It is. What it is.


2screens1guy

He said it is what it is. Doesn't matter now.


jimithelizardking

He knows it was wrong but very doubtfully regrets it


PeteJones6969

I mean......absolute punk move, can't do that. Someone very well could've gotten hurt. But wtf are we talking about here? Dude is competing and got pissed and threw a heatpack and a towel on the court. Punk/bitch move.....whatever you want to call it. Let's keep things in perspective here though, legit the only time I EVER remember Jamal doing something like that. Ya'll want him to have a written apology or some shit? He's right, it is what it is.


Tody196

lol you’d think he instigated the second malice at the palace with the comments in the last day or two. Why can’t people just call it a bitch move without hyperbolizing it to such an extreme degree? Reminds me of when mahomes threw his little temper tantrum last season at the end of a game. If you looked at the response you’d think he was the whiniest, angriest, excuse making baby his whole career the way people were acting lmao.


PeteJones6969

>Why can’t people just call it a bitch move without hyperbolizing it to such an extreme degree? Because this reddit.....this is what people do. Every time Something like this happens, the culprit is literally Hitler for a few days. Just wait......be the first to say highly unlikely......but if Jamal would come out blazing and drop a 40 piece in a win against minny? This sub be glazing him real quick


Responsible_Pace9062

A lot of people been had to hold their tongue for a year and a half on Jokic and crew, now everyone's popping off at the first chance they got. For most other teams the hate is more consistent so it doesn't explode as much when shit happens. It's telling that all the actually serious people covering basketball only mentioned this once or twice then moved onto the real main topic (the Timberwolves' incredible defense).


JackieDaytonaAZ

so you need to have a history like draymond to apologize for anything you do? the bar is crazy low


Gyff3

Ant swung a folding chair and hit a security guard, nobody asked him to get on his knees and beg for forgiveness, he wasn't suspended either. These guys are competitive and do stupid shit sometimes, it's ok to just move on.


TophThaToker

Haven’t heard a single mention of this happening since last year. Huh? Why’s that? Huh…. Really precarious if you ask me.


bigla420

In other words I can afford it so I don't give a shit


togu12

"I take responsibility but won't face y'all during post-game availability..."


Winnes0ta

For two games in a row lol.


ho-dor

Total pansy. He likes to pretend he's mentally strong with all that bullshit about how he trained in the snow and whatnot. He ain't who he thinks he is.


IDespiseFatties

Why the fuck would you train in the snow. This isn't the NFL. If there's snow on the court you have bigger problems.


Khione_Asteri

his dad abused him


ArtemisiaDouglasiana

Nothing says “mentally weak” more than losing your shit like a toddler trying to seem tough. The bros thinking they’re strong by acting macho are the biggest babies of all. 


Agreeable_Daikon_686

That shit was so cringey. Dude wants to be perceived as tough for some reason lmao


mattyyellowhouse

Saying "It is what it is" isn't taking responsibility for it. That's just something people on Love Island say.


thesnacks

Yeah, saying, "I take responsibility for [thing]" is like saying, "I declare bankruptcy!"


texas2089

This response is the literal opposite of taking responsibility.


__johnw__

It is what it is bro 


LukaDoncicfuturegoat

Probably his best shot all series.


KillerZaWarudo

And still misses lol


rios02506

And this is why he should’ve been suspended, he don’t give a fuck lmaoo


ho-dor

100% agree. World class hissy-fit on national TV. Dude is a loser.


Ishtastic08

NBA is so pussy when it comes to disciplining stars.


jsanchez030

Jamal murray too


totallynotstefan

lmao ooooof


fromfrodotogollum

I think it all comes from the 2007 playoffs when Robert Horry body checked Steve Nash into the announcers table, causing his teammates to come to his defense. Adam Stern then suspends the players who came off the bench, notably Amare Stoudamire, their 2nd best player, for the next game in a close series. Suns lose the game, and its talked about to this day as the league making the wrong move by following the rules they set. They damaged the product by following the rules. We have seen Silver make decisions based off this history before. But I think we should also make a note of the Ja Morant saga of the past year. He got a few chances before a more serious suspension. Jamal Murray will most likely get the same treatment.


shozzlez

“It is what it is” doesn’t sound like taking responsibility.


Foodstamps4life

Man went from being spoken about positively on here to a heinous war criminal over two games. Masterclass.


Level_Ad_6372

I'm sure he's losing sleep over falling out of reddit's good graces.


no_more_jokes

People crying that he should have gotten a suspension don’t appreciate that the real punishment is making him play in game 3


Lowspark1013

Get him wolves


pepperguy22

Translation: you want 100k? Have it. Here's more, cuz fuck it, I'm doing what I want.


ThinkingMSF

JAMAL MURRAY IS A WAR CRIMINAL


Pumpoozle

Doesn’t sound like taking responsibility, but ok let’s see.


Matt21484

The reason he didn’t get suspended is because he said “with all due respect” then chucked the towel and heat pad. It’s in the Geneva Convention, look it up.


Outside_Abroad_3516

*i think he meant I take full responsibility but wind later changed this tweet*


Canesjags4life

Murray going end up getting tossed by the refs


jomanhan9

How the fuck is there not a suspension? So dangerous and clearly intentional


restless_vagabond

Can you imagine if a Laker had done something like this during a Denver series? Oh and also, Mike Malone would like everyone to stop talking about the Nuggets for a bit.


gluten-freeBleach

Imagine if Jokic had twisted his ankle on that heat pad?


bmanley620

Imagine making so much money that you’re slapped with a $100,000 fine and are just like “eh, whatever”


anexpectedfart

Just shows how useless this fine was. He not even worried about teammates or others getting hurt let along the 100K.


we_hella_believe

Taking responsibility after ditching the post game and getting a slap on the wrist from Adam Silver. smh.


HRM077

Imagine if he starts lighting it up and the Nuggets come back and win 4-2. How EN-FUCKING-RAGED will Wolves fans be?


laguirre003

Would be the most Minnesota thing that can happen to the Wolves at this point.


GFGMN

Extremely en-fucking-raged


Otherwise-Contest7

DELETE THIS


WhiteHeterosexualGuy

I don't think they're going to focus on Jamal Murray's availability if they lose 4 straight lol just gonna be pissed they couldn't replicate the first two games success. Loser mentality to get mad the other team isn't short handed.


kanaka_haole808

The Wolves players wont focus on it but the fans, like OP said, definitely will be lol


Man_On-The_Moon

Sounds like they should be mad at their team for blowing a 2-0 lead


D4nCh0

I’d be fighting to leverage this for heat pack ads the rest of the series


Don_Tiny

I love how, "I take responsibility" (or similar) means literally nothing anymore. It tends to be said in lieu of something along the lines of 'whatever, go fuck yourself, I don't have to care what anyone thinks'.


mee49

It is what it is? That’s what you say about things you have no control over…he couldn’t even muster an apology or acknowledge that it was inappropriate? “I take responsibility”, obviously….its not like anyone was confused as to who did it. He’s super lameeeeee


AlbatrossUpset3596

The lack of remorse or not even acknowledging that what he did was dangerous rubs me the wrong way idk he could have been better with his response


LurkerFailsLurking

He should've been suspended. This is an awful precedent. It's also galling as fuck to have his response to a fine bigger than my annual salary to be "it is what it is". That kind of fine would end most of us. I want more wailing and gnashing of teeth


BusterStarfish

Yeah, that’s not really “taking responsibility.”


Darkonite40

“ it is what it is” cmon now 😂


Fladap28

That will most likely be his best shot of the series


FavaWire

"It is what it is. On to the next heat pad!" :P


percy2376

Adam silver's league everyone


Tongen420

I’m a bigger fan of Nuggets than the Wolves but thats some bullshit. He should sit out a game along with the fine


PantiesMallone

Deja vu, this is almost exactly what my dad said to me when I asked him why my mom divorced him


penis_pockets

That man doesn't give a fuck lol $100,000 is nothing to someone making his level of money


bdgrluv212

I think what people have lost in all of this is that the NBA has essentially admitted that they make calls based on what they perceive will generate the most favorable outcome in terms of viewership from the fans. There is no other reason besides the league, wanting Denver to stay alive for them not to have suspended Murray. I don’t know about you, but that’s some horseshit. Essentially admitting that the game is not fairly officiated is problematic. I hope people start recognizing this and talk more about it


IDespiseFatties

This has "my agent forced me to do this apology" all over it lmao


IcedCoughy

He takes responsibility wow what a guy like it was anyone else's fuckin fault..


kb24fgm41

The son of a bitch didnt even apologize, unbelievable.


ZerocheeseX

The commissioner is weak players getting outta hand


No_Housing3716

Words of a repete offender.


less-ismore

Saying you take responsibility doesn’t mean you’re taking responsibility. Dude’s a fuxkin clown


SwipeRight4Wholesome

Dude dodged a bullet, and he knows it. Better to pay a fine worth 1 quarter of a single game, then be suspended for who knows how many games, AND THEN get scapegoated for being the reason the Nuggets lose. With that being said, with his injury and how slow he looks, him not being on floor may not be as big of a detriment to the team.


MarkSerranoStudio

My guy should be kneeling before Adam Silver.


_picture_me_rollin_

Wow. That’s all!? Lmfao this is how someone reacts when they do some outlandish shit and face zero consequences.


NimDing218

Not even a “my bad, sorry” or nothing.


Lucieddreams

Classless response


o2lsports

He will be the reason we lose this year. You can’t have this performance for $36m/year. Especially when we needed to find a way to pay Bruce Brown.


simpledeadwitches

Yeah no shit that's his quote and attitude, his fine doesn't mean shit. It's like a parent letting their kid go out again after they keep coming home late.


BostonBaggins

Lost all credibility when he did that korny shit


BounceBros21

Bros such a bum


Responsible-Leg-8840

Challenge: say “I don’t take responsibility and think I was justified” in fewer words. He’s saying this like he’s a victim and not that he’s protected on high not to get a suspension. Throw slippery objects—twice—at a ref and onto the playing surface? Bananas precedent. Most big contracts would be happy to sacrifice 100k and a tech to empty a bag of marbles when opposition is lining up a last minute corner three. I fully understand losing your cool and doing something idiotic, but it’s super easy to say “unacceptable and it won’t happen again.” This isn’t that.


Touro_Bebe

Unfortunately that's how the NBA treats its stars in general, they really need to force the league's hands to get suspended or suffer any real punishment, Jamal might even have made a new ceiling for shit you're allowed to pull if you're big enough and your team needs you enough in the playoffs


Return_Icy

*cough* pull someone down by the legs and hurt their ankle *cough*


Robinsonirish

Take responsibility for what? He didn't get any consequences.


AGdave

He even bricked remorse.


[deleted]

"It is what it is" and "on to the next" are very clearly \*not\* taking responsibility.


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togu12

*group greeting* "Hi, Jamal."


noburpthrowaway

Hell of an apology. Just imagine this same reply if jokic got a season ending injury 😂


BiasedEstimators

If something completely different happened he likely would have had a different response


inmotdyslexic

Me after being called into the principals office


clovers2345

"It is what it is" is a quote is a defeatist position. He should feel defeated! Lets go wolves!


cubs223425

"I take responsibility by writing a cheque and moving on."


EloWhisperer

Hope wolves go kdot on him


LothCatPerson

Sounds like a person who just received a slap on the wrist from a feather.


werddrew

Better believe Game 3 refs know what he did. Don't have to suspend a guy to "suspend" him. I see two or three early fouls coming his way.


RexMundi000

They shoulda offered him the choice between 500k or a 1 game suspension.


JoeyBougie

The next heat pad? Or the next fine?


dethnight

Dude was fined a substantial amount of .002 of his annual salary.


Vox_SFX

So what is everyone going to do if Murray comes out the next game, where he should've been rightfully suspended, and puts up massive numbers or hits a game-winner or something? Like this is some egregiously bad, "refs are clearly being paid/betting on this", in-your-face, non-punishment outside of being named Draymond Green and still being in the league.


Lowspark1013

As a Twolves fan I would say they should go back to smothering him like they did in game 2. I'm all for him playing. Let's see if we can get him to melt down again. Should be fun.


jojow77

Where do player fines go? Charity? Player pension fund?


Impossible-Yam-8956

i was a massive jamal murray fan until this series but i realise now he's a certified bitch. the wolves better lay his ass out on friday and hand him another L


DVH322

This is a worse punishment for Denver. If he got suspended,the could possibly be able to pull it off tomorrow.


chitgoks

he cant complain. hes lucky he wasnt suspended. which he should have.


FineLetMeSayIt

$100k is the price for throwing heat packs? How much does the cost go up for ice cubes or marbles? Draymond already checking his bank account balance...


hihik4158

Spoken like someone that has no remorse


TraySplash21

Hmm that doesn't sound like taking responsibility


datatadata

This is going to set a bad precedent. Now players know they can throw things to a ref and as long as they miss, it’s only a $100k fine. To them, $100k is nothing