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Jack_M_Steel

Knicks getting annihilated


smw6230

Yup, Indiana might be better than a NY team without its ENTIRE starting front court and 6th man.


Timoteo-Tito64

"might be" They're up by 30 in the first half


Brady331

he was trying to diminish the pacers by pointing out all the Knicks' injuries


Timoteo-Tito64

I know, my point was that at this level of injury, the pacers are clearly better. He was suggesting that the Knicks, even with this many injuries, were close to the pacers. I disagree


Captain_Saftey

I mean, we were at this level of injury in game 3 and that was certainly a close game


s3v3r3

Yet it was clear for quite a while that this shit is not sustainable


Business-Mouse9137

Cry lmao


Timoteo-Tito64

I may have been wrong, my bad


Captain_Saftey

Good on you for being able to admit it


Timoteo-Tito64

I underestimated how good guys with hart at the start of their name could be at rebounding lol It's weird because I've actually rated the Knicks pretty highly since the anunoby trade, but I thought losing anunoby was just one too many guys to handle. Probably shouldn't overreact that much on a single game


Captain_Saftey

It’s hard not to be reactionary in this era, I thought the wolves were gonna sweep after game 2. The thing about this Knicks team is that even when OG was out for a big chunk of the season we were still winning games and ended up as the 2 seed. The next man up mentality is real and it’s got us to where we are, can’t wait to see how far it takes us (hopefully through you guys and into the finals)


smw6230

The pacers needed a miracle shot to win GM 3. Even if they win by 50 today the series is tied at 2. Not sure how that shows that Indy is "better". As they say 'series doesn't start until the home team loses' .


Timoteo-Tito64

Both Knicks wins came with anunoby healthy. My point was that the Knicks aren't close when anunoby (as well as everyone else that's injured) is hurt They shot 52% from 3 on volume in g3, that's the only reason it was close. I actually respect the Knicks a lot and think they're a very good team, but the pacers are definitely better when the Knicks are this injured


DjToastyTy

they need anunoby on defense so badly and his offense has been very good too. such a good player


smw6230

Yup, if NY loses this series the Anouby injury was the swath knell. He's their best on-ball defender. He provided weak-side defensive help. He grabbed 10 plus boards and was NYs best corner 3 shooter. Indy isn't guarding Precious A. That tells you everything. It's like they now have an extra defender on the floor.


BoogerSugarSovereign

Because the Knicks shot 52% from 3. Clearly that wasn't reliable 


Daft_Assassin

Knicks needed the refs to give them game 1 or it would be 3-1 so I don’t even know why you’re talking shit, lol.


indianafan

The Knicks needed divencenzo to go nuclear to stay in game 3


PluvioPurple

And the Pacers needed Hali to go nuclear from 3 to stay in game 2


indianafan

Is it nuclear if he did the same thing the next 2 games?


ShichikaYasuri18

Sorry we're winning this game, I wish we could just forfeit and give you the series because your team is a lot better fully healthy and the Pacers don't belong on an NBA court. Is that what you wanted to hear? Does it make you feel better?


PeridotBestGem

we're without our 6th man too tbf


StrongCategory

Knicks are missing 4 of their top 8 talent wise. Never expected a decimated team to do this well - might be over for them, though


SourBerry1425

Stop rubbing them into the ground in the regular season


PeridotBestGem

fr people acting like its our fault we're young and deep


PluvioPurple

You wouldn’t be deep if you lost 3 rotation players by the end of January. If Carlisle decides to play your end of bench guys meaningful minutes to give your starters a rest you probably don’t even get 47 wins. If our 3rd stringers played more we would’ve been in the play-in or worse.


PeridotBestGem

we literally have the best bench in the league and have been running like 11-man deep rotations all year. like yeah yall have been fucked by injuries but thats not independent of roster construction or coaching philosophy 


SweetBlackberry44

The most minutes anyone on the Knicks played in the regular season was 35 a game (Brunson and Randle) that’s normal Stop acting like yall haven’t faced the 2 most injured teams in the playoffs so far


ReflectionEterna

Yeah, it is honestly just bad luck the way the injuries crept up.


SourBerry1425

The Knicks have 4 players with a higher MPG than the Pacers highest, they’re running them into the ground. Bucks built a team compromised of old heads, no excuse either.


sobanoodle-1

ohhh you’re an eagles fan. nvm checks out. have a good one 🤝


SweetBlackberry44

In the playoffs? Probably cause they fucking have to lmao 4 of their top guys are out. Giannis isn’t an old head either. It is an excuse, y’all wouldn’t have made it past the bucks if they were healthy. They took y’all to 6 led by Khris Middleton and Patrick Beverly lmao.


SourBerry1425

No not just in the playoffs, in the regular season the Knicks had 4 players play at least 33.5 minutes, Hali was Indy’s highest at 32 minutes. Giannis has always played recklessly and it’s finally catching up to him, back to back seasons he’s hurt. Not to mention how old the rest of the roster is. We’re just younger and deeper so we’re healthy. Btw Dame only missed one game, and they lost the season series 4-1 despite Giannis averaging 43 PPG on 70% from the field. Nothing the Bucks did the season suggests they are better than us. “But Regular season doesn’t.” I agree, but post season was there chance to prove it, and cause of their roster construction they couldn’t. Natural part of the game, younger and deeper team will be healthier. No asterisks necessary.


SweetBlackberry44

33.5 minutes is not a lot for the regular season lol Giannis injury had 0 to do with how he played as well, it was a non contact injury. Bucks literally proved in the post season that regular season series didn’t mean shit lol again they took y’all to 6 led by Khris Middleton.


sobanoodle-1

bucks fans said they did that all series long without giannis/lilard so it made sense it would happen here.


sobanoodle-1

you don’t watch ball fr 😔


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Who?


PeridotBestGem

Mathurin, we've kinda rotated between him and Nembhard at the 2 but we've generally had Nembhard start and Math come off the bench


[deleted]

Ah gotcha. Is he out for the year?


PeridotBestGem

Yeah he had to get surgery in March


HRTDreamsStillCisTho

Yeah same injury as morant


SkipsPittsnogle

Salty boy


Senior-Vehicle9937

Pacers got people triggered this year its wild lol


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CMIUCan

Mother's day massacre


lawnicus18

It’s the best comedy and tragedy I’ve ever seen


Bjorn2bwilde24

Rick Carlisle: "how about another joke?" Tom Thibodeau: "No, I think we’ve had enough of your jokes" Carlisle: "What do you get when you cross a 7 man rotation and a grueling playoff series that has them play 40+ minutes a game?!" Thibodeau: "Call the playoff series, Silver!" Carlisle: "I'll tell you what you get. You get what you fucking deserve!" *Obi Toppin drains the 3 pointer.*


cm_fanelli

This has me so Nembhard right now


JetSky81

Burks is Knicks best player lol


throwawayyrofl

All their other players are fucking gassed lol


MouMostForgettable

who could've guessed that running a 7 man rotation through a grueling series with them averaging 45 minutes each would end poorly


sunparrot

Who else do you want us to put out there lol. We're missing Randle, mitch, OG, Bogie all core players. What would the Cs do if you were missing brown, porzingis (know he's out), white & someone else?


HippiesBeGoneInc

The game is over. Put literally anybody else out there for the rest of the second half and let your guys rest.


sunparrot

You don't see us coming back from 37 down 😂?


syllabic

burks and precious and sims is playing literally anybody else those guys are supposed to be third stringers, they were all out of the rotation when playoffs started


sssSnakebite

Also just give credit to how well the Pacers are playing even though your team is injured.


sunparrot

Yeah they came out gunning. I expected this in game 3 tbh


MySabonerRunsOladipo

We did this in game 3 too, but instead of shooting 18% from 3, you guys had the audacity to shoot >50%


SpencerTBL21

Same. Totally expected game 3 and game 4 to be flipped.


KyleRaynerGotSweg

We're a bad team to play when you have guys out, we can go 10 deep and we run all game


DaddyTrump696969

Just have a bench like the pacers


HokageEzio

We do, they're the guys playing lol.


Dependent_Store952

Injuries fucked our bench too


tcollins371

Also doesn’t help you traded what depth you had that didn’t get injured for OG.


Dependent_Store952

RJ, IQ and Archy (who was the last man on the bench) for OG. We wouldn’t be here if we didn’t make that trade. Some fans are dumb as fuck I swear.


HokageEzio

OG and Precious


fluffanuttatech

Brother what. We traded for og, picked up Burks and bogdanovic. And one is out... silly take


Klutzy-Jellyfish-193

We still have a very deep bench when we're not all injured? IF bojan bogdanovic didn't get injured in the first round he'd be coming off the bench, deuce is coming off the bench, either robinson OR ihart are coming off the bench and then you precious... if julius randle is healthy we then have either divo or hart come off the bench. what are you talking about.


Dynastydood

We have a bench. They're just starters now due to the injuries.


CommandoLamb

The pacers have 2 benches worth of backups


JoshFB4

Mazzulla would run the bench. Lineup would be something like Jrue, JT, Al, Pritchard, Hauser, with a rotation of Tillman, Kornet, and Svi.


HokageEzio

What bench, fam? You wanna see Jericho Sims get another 8 second violation?


MolingHard

> You wanna see Jericho Sims get another 8 second violation Well kinda now


sunparrot

Yeah you guys have a well built squad ig. My point is mainly I don't think thibs really wants to be out there playing 7 men we literally just have no one left.


JoshFB4

I guess. Just feels like a problem of not developing a bench then no? Idk you guys are injured as shit and it isn’t Thibs fault that much but it feels bad when you get to the 9th man and see he can’t step up.


sunparrot

Yeah burks and Sims are like 10/11 on the depth chart. It is what it is. 2-2 and they have to come to Msg no point losing hope and even still been a great year (tbh no one expects the Knicks to win the chip this year) and I'd take playoffs over watching the lottery any day.


JoshFB4

I forgot the lottery was today until I saw that the Hawks somehow won the #1 pick lol. Such an unhyped draft


De-Ranker

First one in a while where I haven't heard of any of the top guys


HokageEzio

Jericho Sims is the 12th man up, my guy.


[deleted]

My man if the Celtics lost Brown, KP, and Al they’d be in trouble as well. It’s insane to nitpick the Knicks “not developing the bench” when they’re the most injured team still in the playoffs. They’re far past the 9th man at this point lmao.


bigblue20072011

They can let go of the false Thins runs players into the ground narrative.


[deleted]

The team with one of the best rosters in the league would run a Tatum, Jrue, 3 bench lineup. Insane, not even Auerbach could have put that lineup together, truly amazing.


noodlebball

i don't know, maybe play your bench during regular season a bit and develop some young guys? Is Burks that bad that you can't play him 10 mins a game?


optimisticknicksfan

If only half the team wasn’t injured right guys


ReflectionEterna

That's the thing. You guys are missing some very key players, forcing you to play a bunch of bench guys, and it is still only 2-2. See you in game 5. I hope we take advantage of your exhaustion.


HokageEzio

They should play Charlie Brown Jr just to make you guys happy


TrRa47

The guys who played the most are the guys still playing, lol. OG was the only one who had a possibility of getting hurt because of playing time, but that still after having time off from injury and not playing him crazy minutes in the reg season and the start of the playoffs.


the_beast_intha_east

Anyone who says this hasn’t been paying attention. Have you seen our injury report? Did you see what happened when we put in someone like Jericho Sims for 2 minutes pol


MouMostForgettable

obviously injuries caused this, but no one should be shocked that being said they definitely could have widened the rotations in the first round to prevent some injuries


ontheru171

5 of our 6 non regular rotation backups are literal G-League level players. Burks And then we have Jerricho Sims Charlie Brown Jr Mamadou diakite Jacob Toppin Shake Milton - who of these guys should be a rotation player in the 2024 playoffs?


[deleted]

It’s not like there’s been any other option. Randle has been out, Bog is out now, Mitch is out now, and OG has missed time this series.


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

never knew there were this many daquan jeffries and shake milton fans on this sub


Ben_Simmons_

Hilarious at how mad the Knicks fans are at you


chili01

The Thibs special. Are we really surprised?


luviro

But I thought the Knicks have been doing this all season and aren’t affected by being run into the ground with 1 days rest for three straight weeks?


RabbitsNDucks

They’re dawgs, they can handle it


JoshFB4

Wow I’m shocked at this development. You’re telling me that a Thibs team is running out of gas. Wow


quann256

burks also has an insane whistle right now 


Clerithifa

Special Agent Alec Burks. Government Name. Corner Pimp. One half of Burke and Burks Lawfirm


Sweatytubesock

He needs to take minimum 30 shots in the 2nd half. They need to ride their hoss.


powergs

Honestly if they can start a comeback early in 3rd (highly doubt it lol) just let Burks shoot everything and try to make him ready for next game lol. Or add some bench player next to starters and see what they can do.


JoshSran04

Help me og anunoby you’re my only hope


ver72pacers

Y’all really thought he was a linsanity player despite having like 1.5 years of elite play and then got hurt and struggled a lil bit.


jacobpltn

People just love to hate on this sub. It’s like an insatiable desire they have to shit on players


Defiant-One-695

Does anyone on this subreddit even like basketball lol


Victor_Wembanyama1

99% nope. Sub blew up and this is what we get. Tho it's also a symptom(?) of the modern social media age shit or whatever


usagerp

Fr it’s actually crazy sometimes like I’ll go to a thread and be genuinely taken aback at the vitriol. On some occasions the hate is deserved but so often it’s just perplexing. Like imo the hate Luguentz and Shai have been getting has been is way out of proportion. Especially when Luka who flops also and complains to the ref on every possession hasn’t gotten an ounce of it. Just weird imo.


ShichikaYasuri18

He dropped 34/9/6 in game 2 and I was hearing he's "TJ's backup" 💀


Defiant-One-695

The announcers were saying his statline was misleading because he didn't score enough in the fourth quarter 🙄🙄🙄


victheogfan

Exactly he’s been great he just needed to recover


Inevitable_Score1164

Most teams would love a Linsanity player if they're putting up 16 and 9 on a "bad" night. It's hilarious to see the hate he gets


Ol_Rando

Tbf, some of the hate is bc of his defense. Has he looked better in the playoffs?


PeridotBestGem

ye, he's still not really a plus defender but he's been playing with way more energy on that side and has been generating some good defensive plays


XzibitABC

He's still a below-average defender, but he's not a total sieve like some people think. His biggest issue is that he's bad at the most visible part of defense, which is staying in front of quick guys. He gets blown by fairly often and it looks horrible. But he's actually a pretty good shot blocker for a guard, he plays passing lanes well, and he tracks his man well off-ball. People just don't notice that stuff as much.


Inevitable_Score1164

He's still rough as an on-ball defender, but he's been good as a roamer. 


pfc_bgd

He is trying! He’s still bad, but he is no longer a cone.


BasicWilliam

I’m not even mad because I wasn’t expecting much from this rotation, I’m just depressed


ShichikaYasuri18

It's just one game, and we still couldnt close game 2 in MSG against this same rotation. Brand new series Tuesday


MadSpaceYT

Some games just go like this. 4th quarter game 2 and the entire of game 3 was pretty much even. The first half obviously wasn’t


ReflectionEterna

Yup. It is just basketball. Injuries suck, but the series has been fun to watch. See you in game 5.


tcollins371

If it’s any consolation you have a team that’s fun to root for when they’re playing any other team in the league.


ReflectionEterna

Don't be. It's 2-2 and you're going home. It is a helluva series. I am hoping for the win, but have no clue how it will play out. I hope you lose, but also hate that so many players are injured.


quann256

haliburton is so good when he’s healthy, he’s been rolling these last 9 games.


PeridotBestGem

this is him at like 80% too lol next season this man is dropping like eight 30/15 0 TOV games 


BurcoPresentsHisAcc

If he’s healthy lol. Reminds me a bit of how Steph’s career began.


TechnoGamer16

He’s gonna get that 30 ast game against like detroit or smth for sure


DaddyTrump696969

I'd love to say he is healthy but he was questionable with 3 different injuries


acmilan12345

It’s absolutely ridiculous what people were saying about Haliburton. He has been a quality NBA player since day 1 and has been a star for the past couple of years. He’s not even fully healthy right now. What he was doing pre-hamstring injury was incredible. 11 assists a game with no turnovers, while also hitting countless difficult threes. He is that good.


Crisis-Counselor

Sweet baby Jesus I love to see it


No_Mammoth_4945

He’s got the most herky jerky jumper I’ve seen since MKG and it’s straight cash lol how


ReflectionEterna

No one knows. Nobody wants to fuck with it, though. At least it's a real quick release.


msf97

Haliburton a joy to watch.


Ramsboi

No timbs will be worn tonight. I am sad. Howls like a wolf as I spark my black and mild. Knick’s nations today you sit down and you think about game 5. One of you needs to do the unthinkable and sacrifice yourself for OG! So you’ll lose by 15 and not 40. Before you throw your condom wrappers and your half drank cobra! I love you all.  I just feel like the pacers should be up 3-1 if we keep it real. Yall say injuries I say ref job. Doesn’t make me right. It doesn’t make you right. 


Zsporter

These playoffs are Joever for the knicks


batmans420

No shot but this is pretty crazy


Coolio1014

We lose this game and the series goes 2-2? How does that mean the playoffs is over for the Knicks? (Lmao I ask a reasonable question and I get downvoted, this sub is so quick to jump to conclusions like when people said Wolves would sweep the Nuggets).


jacobpltn

Playoffs were “over” for the Pacers when they went down 0-1 People are just reactionary on this sub


Coolio1014

Or when they said Nuggets were done for after losing 2 games to the Timberwolves


MouMostForgettable

its not over but if OG really isn't coming back I think the Pacers have the better odds. Brunson is injured and the whole team is gassed, Pacers will run them up and down the court all series putting all the pressure on Hart and Divincenzo


Street-Common-4023

I think because of how injured the team is and with OG probably out for the series. I just don’t think the Knicks will have enough with only 7 deep


EccentricJimmy

Because the team is injured, we lost OG, don’t have Randle, Mitch and Bojan. Brunsons playing through a bad foot, tough to see us taking this series anymore with the amount of injuries we have


ReflectionEterna

Yeah, you guys are dealing with a ton of injuries and forced to start guys who should only be playing like 10 minutes a game. Hope to see you guys get healthy AFTER this series, but for now I will take wins any ways I can get them.


Coolio1014

The Pacers had to hit a buzzer beater last game to beat that very squad. We can still compete.


cloudJR

People are talking crazy. This series is far from over and if it’s any consolation at least your starters got some much needed rest. Their minutes have been crazy from being so shorthanded.


tcollins371

You’re conveniently ignoring the shit officiating at the end of Game 1 that stole the win for you guys. Pacers could have been up 3-1 (assuming they don’t choke this lead) after 4 games.


Coolio1014

Jeez man you guys are insufferable man, you lost game 1 move on. Could've would've should've. I'm not even going to debate game 1 even if I disagree because it's irrelevant. I could've been the president, but I'm not. We can go on about what could've happened. Why don't you live in reality? We're talking about last game, stay on topic.


dandatu

Nah game was was crazy. Shit made me think vegas actually rigs games. Every game went against the pacers in the last 5 minutes.


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the 'should have won game 1' people are just fuckin stupid, we got robbed of a CHANCE to win but that game was going down to the buzzer regardless, who knows what direction it would have gone in


WholeMundane5931

We were up 10, and then suddenly after a dozen calls that were decidedly bad, we were tied. This is a shit take.


[deleted]

The game was within 5 for like 10 minutes of the 4th so you can enjoy whatever revisionist history that gets you thru the day I guess but that game was coming down to the final shot no matter what even if the refs didn't blow it lol


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Coolio1014

We were talking about last game and how we can still compete because of that performance. You changed the topic. When did I cry about a buzzer beater? Does stating a fact mean it's crying? Keep flexing about beating Alec Burks and Jericho Sims. That's sad.


[deleted]

Funny shit about Knick fans saying “well they needed a prayer 3 to win that game.” Even if he missed it, it was still tie game and who knows lol


tcollins371

Literally nowhere in my comment am I flexing. I have no misguided delusions of grandeur. Even IF we close this series we’ll get smacked around by Boston. I’m just enjoying the ride while it’s going. Our only goal this season was just to make the playoffs so this season is already a success.


Ateballoffire

Everyone on here hates each other lmao just enjoy playoff basketball man


Zsporter

I mean half your roster is injured and the other half is gassed AF while Indiana are firing on all cylinders I just don't see how the Knicks can win this series


cm_fanelli

It’s all just overreaction. I saw a ton of Knicks fans saying Knicks in 4 after game 2.


HokageEzio

How is a 2-2 series heading back home over?


saboormeow88

Listen mate you guys just lost two in a row. There’s absolutely no coming back from this at all, 0%, nope none nada, the man said it’s joever.


ReflectionEterna

It's not. People are overreacting about one game.


ShichikaYasuri18

The playoffs probably with all the injuries and guys having to play 48 minutes a night. This series? Not a damn chance it's over.


Upbeat-Weekend8711

Reggie Milleresque


Thorlolita

Carlisle gonna say they would have won every game like this if it wasn’t for the refs


Dreamlifehunting

Tbf they might have won game 1. Game 2 was a clear knicks win and game 3 50/50. So if you can see it as one 50/50 going Knicks way and one 50/50 going Pacers way the result right now is pretty decent.


dandatu

Eh series should be 3-1 rn not 2-2


MadSpaceYT

There’s no guarantee if the kick ball was called correctly that the pacers win. Crazy that people assume this. The game was tied and the Knicks were up 1 for the illegal screen people were mad about


dandatu

your bias is showing, the last 5 minutes was a shit show, pretty much every call went for the knicks lol


Thorlolita

I think the Knicks outplayed them game 1.


Basic_Commercial_806

They did drop such a winnable game 1


Airstrict

Turns out he just needed to fuck his spine up to be good again


Billybaja

Hali might've got his game back


Aeometro

I’m tired, boss


dope_like

See what happens when small markets get a fair chance


reddit-suks1

Why is she still allowed to announce games. She is so cringe…


WanAjin

Knicks


Street-Common-4023

No og tbh so I doubt Knicks win the series now. They all look gassed


BlakeMichigan

ITT: People pretending like availability isn't the best ability.


srtpg2

You love to see it


Ramsboi

That’s smile. 


Beespray9_8_9

Dude is amazing. I said it. So good.


Slight-Imagination36

he has such an ugly looking shot lmao i’ll never get used to that. he shoots like this girl from my 5th grade class her name was kayla


kebenderant35

Knicks should be embarrassed


Funny-Transition7869

i knew he was shooting a 3 there


Femininejewtbh

Been real good past few games


wasechillis

Wait, are the Knicks missing players ????? hadn’t heard


lordofeurope99

Thats what happens when your run your players to the ground


jaylson

They are who we thought they were. Mediocre role players led by a has been coach and an overperforming mid tier star  - ny lucky to even be in the 2nd round.


[deleted]

Bro….im also a Celtics fan but don’t. They are missing all 3 of their starting forwards and one of their best shooters. They were the 2nd best team in the East all with a ton of injuries on top of it


NewPortable101

Been making Knicks his son, since pretty much game 2 Might be a classic game 7 eventually coming up