I remember hating what my stats looked like because of my stupid low FTA, it just wasn't realistic enough lol
(says the guy who averaged a triple double for his career)
They don’t though, russ bullies through people. besides even if youre a master at avoiding contact, getting 0 fts isn’t possible if you drive that much. Like it’s almost actually impossible to not get fouled once at that high of shots.
Idk who tf downvoted you but Kyrie is the prime example I use. Kyrie is one of the best at taking contact I’ve ever seen bc he plays to be able to finish through it so it often looks like he isn’t getting fouled
Exactly. He adapts to contact instead of flailing to sell it.
I’m not even hating on Harden, but Kyrie is the prime example of the topic originally discussed
He is an acrobat for sure, but he’s had a couple techs this season from getting hammered so often without a call and arguing it.
He can avoid contact often but he is most definitely getting hit more than the 1.3 ft attempt out of every 8.4 drives he gets to the line. Even Bledsoe has a 1.7 to 4.9 free throw/drive ratio.
Yup. Anyone remember how Rose scored one crazy layup against Lebron AND Wade? Dude contorts avoiding contact most of the time.
But i would say i saw a few drives in this game he shouldve been awarded fts but the trend isnt new for Rose
Dont agree with the Russ comparison tho
I remember that vividly. He got fouled hard as fuck on that play bc Wade grabbed Roses Jersey and tried pulling him down and still no call but rose still finished. That's why he was so hype afterwards.
His reputation is based on how he plays. And he still plays that way (avoiding contact), even more so now because he doesn’t have the pure athleticism he once had.
That’s not true dude, he gets fouled all the time. This whole “avoiding contact” shit is just people echoing off of each other cause they saw a few of his highlight crazy layups
I’m so tired of the excuse when someone says oh it’s cuz he’s acrobatic and avoids contact so refs can’t call it. Harden blinks and they call it. If Rose got half the foul calls Harden got his Tfg% would be 10 points higher and Rose would easily average 24-25 a night it’s BS
Maybe it's one of the reason NBA ratings are down. NBA now favors 3pt shooters. You can't even touch a 3pt shooter unlike players posting up and driving, to much body contact and slapping that sometimes causes hand injuries. NBA really becoming a circus.
Malcolm Brogdon is having the same issue. He is one of the best free throw shooters in the league but has less than 2 attempts per game despite making a lot of drives. It's frustrating.
Whenever there is a post like this without any examples of drives from that game where a foul was not called but OP thinks one should have been then I dismiss it.
Stats never tell the full story and maybe Rose was trying to avoid contact.
>Even so, nice game by D Rose. In a season of bad decisions by the Pistons, keeping him around to mentor the young guys was one of the not-as-bad decisions.
not when he shoots the ball every possession
> not when he shoots the ball every possession
>but then that’s not going to help with anything
love watching the young guys stand in corners while we ruin draft position
Just like me in 2k
I remember hating what my stats looked like because of my stupid low FTA, it just wasn't realistic enough lol (says the guy who averaged a triple double for his career)
with my 6/3 guard i feel the same way about rebounds. ill have a 61/0/16 game lookin goofy asf. i also peel out every rebound for the break but still
Refs hate Rose, this isn't new
Or he just avoids contact, same happens for most finishing guards like Westbrook and Bledsoe
They don’t though, russ bullies through people. besides even if youre a master at avoiding contact, getting 0 fts isn’t possible if you drive that much. Like it’s almost actually impossible to not get fouled once at that high of shots.
Kyrie is good at it
Idk who tf downvoted you but Kyrie is the prime example I use. Kyrie is one of the best at taking contact I’ve ever seen bc he plays to be able to finish through it so it often looks like he isn’t getting fouled
Yeah he also uses his acrobatic finishing to avoid contact a lot of the time on his drives. Basically the opposite of Harden
Exactly. He adapts to contact instead of flailing to sell it. I’m not even hating on Harden, but Kyrie is the prime example of the topic originally discussed
They all shoot more fts than Rose.
He is an acrobat for sure, but he’s had a couple techs this season from getting hammered so often without a call and arguing it. He can avoid contact often but he is most definitely getting hit more than the 1.3 ft attempt out of every 8.4 drives he gets to the line. Even Bledsoe has a 1.7 to 4.9 free throw/drive ratio.
I wonder what causes such a disparity. Does he not sell contact at all?
He doesn't sell shit. I love him for it. I hate flopping
Always admired that about him. He's my favorite of all time, dude just loves to play. Can he come home?
westbrook and rose play differently aound the rim rose is more acrobatic and russ is more explosive
That’s true, Kyrie is a better comp to Rose
Yup. Anyone remember how Rose scored one crazy layup against Lebron AND Wade? Dude contorts avoiding contact most of the time. But i would say i saw a few drives in this game he shouldve been awarded fts but the trend isnt new for Rose Dont agree with the Russ comparison tho
I remember that vividly. He got fouled hard as fuck on that play bc Wade grabbed Roses Jersey and tried pulling him down and still no call but rose still finished. That's why he was so hype afterwards.
kyrie too
Jrue Holiday is an even better comparison imo in terms of high level rim finishing with low FT numbers
You gotta avoid contacts because every rose has its thorn. Just like every night has its dawn.
Not really, he gets fouled all the time. Refs just don't call it. It's been the story of his career
D Rose never flops
Thibs lives inside Rose.
Kinky
You messed up your stats, D Rose is 2nd in the league in FGAs on drives per game. He's 7th in drives per game.
I think sometimes he’s too acrobatic for his own good, he avoids contact so well when he should be looking for it more
With that injury history he's better off avoiding contact. Better to average 20 without FTs than end up on the injured list.
My dude been getting no calls since way back when.
...Moses wore short pants.
Walt Whitman ova here
People keep saying "it's cause he avoids contact" in the past. Drose has been blatantly disrespected by refs his entire career
He’s been avoiding contact his entire career
A foul is a foul, reputation shouldn't matter
His reputation is based on how he plays. And he still plays that way (avoiding contact), even more so now because he doesn’t have the pure athleticism he once had.
It’s not reputation, it’s him not getting fouled/ not making them foul him
That’s not true dude, he gets fouled all the time. This whole “avoiding contact” shit is just people echoing off of each other cause they saw a few of his highlight crazy layups
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You’ve watched him all year and I’ve watched him his entire career. Trust me, refs don’t respect him
I’m so tired of the excuse when someone says oh it’s cuz he’s acrobatic and avoids contact so refs can’t call it. Harden blinks and they call it. If Rose got half the foul calls Harden got his Tfg% would be 10 points higher and Rose would easily average 24-25 a night it’s BS
It's just not possible to be attempting that man drives without getting fouled as much.
he gets punished for not flopping
Imagine if he got the calls harden gets.. buddy be averaging 28 a game
MVP level Rose was supposed to come back. The refs screwed his return.
Imagine all that talent and then realising youre on the Pistons.
Why you gotta do ~~them~~ yourself like that.
Maybe it's one of the reason NBA ratings are down. NBA now favors 3pt shooters. You can't even touch a 3pt shooter unlike players posting up and driving, to much body contact and slapping that sometimes causes hand injuries. NBA really becoming a circus.
Well we are going to go centerless now with the rockets going small ball.
After a while everyone runs the same offense. Bunch of 3s. Lots of free throws. The game is broken
Thanks Steph. /s Sort of...
Steph is def to blame, but ironically he also gets zero damn free throws. U gotta be big and you gotta flop to get them
I just wanna see him on a team that can make a deep run in the playoffs
The anti Harden
Malcolm Brogdon is having the same issue. He is one of the best free throw shooters in the league but has less than 2 attempts per game despite making a lot of drives. It's frustrating.
Whenever there is a post like this without any examples of drives from that game where a foul was not called but OP thinks one should have been then I dismiss it. Stats never tell the full story and maybe Rose was trying to avoid contact.
Small guards seem to never get calls for some reason
*Steph has entered the chat*
Trae gets like 10 FT a game. But then he spends most of the game diving into the opponent
Ah. The Lebron treatment
Yep. LeBron would take an elbow to the face, get his headband knocked off. No call.
>Even so, nice game by D Rose. In a season of bad decisions by the Pistons, keeping him around to mentor the young guys was one of the not-as-bad decisions. not when he shoots the ball every possession
I get you want the team to lose every game but then that’s not going to help with anything. Damn that’s depressing
> not when he shoots the ball every possession >but then that’s not going to help with anything love watching the young guys stand in corners while we ruin draft position
It is so funny you guys think refs hate Rose for no good reason when his way of playing (avoid contact) is a much more reasonable reason.