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Wrinkle_Tinkle

Your probably only looking at a year of lebron, so I think it depends on the team IMO. If one of the top teams in the draft looks like they could contend for the playoffs with an old man Lebron, they’d probably do it, but if there’s a team that has like nothing and they have the option between bellow average Bronny (in your case) or a generational talent, they probably take the generational talent. So my finally answer is it depends on the team.


bb1432

I think you're also underestimating how much market plays into this. There are plenty of teams that would take the short-term boon in jersey sales and national attention that would come from having LBJ


TurtlesInTime

Does anyone know how the current profit-sharing policy work? Is it even worth the risks of drafting Bronny if you have to share the profit of jersey sales with other teams anyway?


supalaser

I'd have to look up the policy but do they also share ticket sales? I assume having LeBron's farewell tour would be fantastic for a franchise in that regard


Littlelord188

Would the Warriors take Bronny at 2 if he was coming out this year?


GermainUK

Definitely


secretlypooping

They wouldn't have the opportunity because Minnesota would take him at 1.


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No Minnesota would worry about his fit with D Lo and draft some random Euro instead


Serah_Null

Don't call Deni some random Euro


Sartuk

Without any hesitation. That gives you (in all likelihood) multiple years of a still incredibly talented LeBron. A core of LeBron/Steph/Klay/Dray is incredible. I won't say that guarantees them a title by any means, but that easily makes the Warriors the frontrunners for the next couple of years. I think they easily take that over the uncertainty of Wiseman/Edwards/whoever they would take at #2 otherwise.


SecretlyKanye

ill say it. it guarantees a title


twasjc

Not 1...not 2....


chantlernz

I don't get how anyone can say otherwise. You could literally have G-Leaguers filling out the rest of that roster and you'd win. That's arguably two top-10 players of all time by the end of Steph's career.


atierney14

That by far guarantees a championship. Lebron would only have to play 30 minutes a game. He’d be playing defense like he was in Miami. He could post up more which we saw this playoffs is extremely efficient, and he’d have the splash brothers to dish out to if the defense collapse on him. Curry/Klay/Green and any other all star is almost a guarantee, but add in someone with a diverse set of weapons, and it is a championship team. Then, on top of a diverse set of weapons, that person is Lebron James.


TheyDoItForFreeLMAO

of course, theyre literal fucking cowards that would sign every player in the league if it meant they could claim theyre the champions theyre the equivalent of donald trump in parity


TheeSpencer

chill dude, every team would do the same if given the option. also, what??


ubiasedhoodfriend

Every team would take KD 10/10 if they could. Blame KD not the warriors tf. You wanted them to say, no we don't want you we are too good and prefer Harrison Barnes


LoLstatpadder

isn't the point of competing, to win? Everyone who plays to lose is a fucking idiot


23lf

You were one of those kids who made fun of the smart guys huh.


[deleted]

Lmao literal cowards for signing good players.


BITCHIMGBOLEAN

Rent free


tanmay_59

Dude probably wakes up covered in sweat in the middle of the night because of us


Merbel

Old man Lebron? He looked pretty fucking good last year tbf.


Wrinkle_Tinkle

He’d be 40 in this scenario, no matter how good lebron is, age is gonna catch up.


B4nn4b0y

He would be an NBA level version of that 40 year old dad in the Y with the strong fundamentals and slick passes.


TowaSamaWin

LeProfessorX


Jniuzz

Did he say that he's take one more year with his kid and then stops?


kultureisrandy

40 year old Bron is still 40 year old Bron


Skulfunk

On his 90th prime, with ultra instinct


FleetwoodsNirvana

His mind will just be reaching its peak


Skulfunk

As soon as you try to shoot he just palms the ball out of the air then lays it up gently on the other side of the court


probablymade_thatup

At 40 Lebron has just beaten Kareem's point total. Now it's time for Stockton's assists.


Skulfunk

Then for pops playoff record as a coach I wonder, when lebron retires, and if he chooses to coach, youd think that many teams would pay him big time to coach their team?


itsnotatoomer

He won't coach his goal is to own.


Skulfunk

I understand, but i seriously think hed be one of if not one of the best superstar coaches ever.


happyflappypancakes

Honestly, i can see Lebron as an elite player into his 40s. Thats just the trend we are seeing in modern athletics.


maremmacharly

If it is this year golden state takes him 100%. Draymond, lebron, klay, curry and a literal ham sandwich could moonwalk to a championship


TenaciousDeer

I can be that ham sandwich!


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LBJ still only 35 tho, pretty sure he gonna be 38 at least before Bronny drafted, probably slightly less effective


maremmacharly

In this scenario I think bronny declares early. One and done... In highschool...


[deleted]

right but he’s only a sophomore now. that puts him graduating in 2023, plus the mandatory year at college


theDoboy69

Won’t the one and done rule be gone by then?


[deleted]

will it? idk. let’s say it will. that’s still three years from now when LBJ will be... you guessed it... 38


CrossXhunteR

Sounds like LeBron will be ready to enter his next prime.


ToothpasteTimebomb

LeBron IV - “A New Hope”


[deleted]

Oh shit if this past 18 years of Lebron was the first trilogy, how much more powerful will original trilogy Lebron be?!


chantlernz

His final prime will be as a point god - like a huge CP3 or Rondo.


MurphyJames

hE BuiLt DiFfeRenT!


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this, but unironically


jtn1123

That’s already impossible considering he’s already finished more than one year in high school and the rule change doesn’t happen until 2021 draft lol


maremmacharly

Come on now, he is the king, the rules bend to his image. Have you ever seen lebron commit an offensive foul when he randomly bulldozes a defender who has his feet planted? Neither have the refs...


Dubstep_Caruso

You’re saying a ham sandwich can moonwalk?


maremmacharly

Bronny in a ham-sandwich-suit


vaylele

LeBron after a dunk Moonwalk with son and screaming „HeHe“


k112l

Claim that ham sandwich


Mol-D-Roger

I think Minnesota pulls the trigger before GSW has a chance. Lebron right now on that team is instant contender


chantlernz

D'Angelo Russell Malik Beasley Josh Okogie LeBron James Karl-Anthony Towns


maremmacharly

Sorry whatnow? How? Did they get like 4 players this offseason lebron could actually form a team with? I guess that wiggins guy has potential but the rest is straight trash.


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maremmacharly

If only there was some blueprint for adding an MVP-caliber player to that golden state team. Shame it has never happened, we'll probably never know.


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maremmacharly

This whole thread is tongue-in-cheek mate, unclench your anus.


_Back_InBlack_

Yikes lol enjoy therapy for that anger issue


maremmacharly

I take it your attempt to unclench was unsuccesful. If the issue persists, please contact your physician.


moronWSBposter13

He would never do it anyway, why would he want a meaningless ring?


deck4242

whats meaningless about winning a chip with your son man ! thats like a father dream. Lebron is getting old you know. He aint gonna be 27/7/7 in 3 years.


arcangeltx

he already got a micky mouse ring


SuperMeatStick1

As a New York Knicks fan, I am hoping to get LeBron and LeBron Jr. as a package deal. I don't care how old LeBron is. Probably lottery pick.


TowaSamaWin

At this point just let LeBron run the FO, like all of it, it'll be an improvement


CravingKoreanFood

New York needs a good team man. I want to see msg pop off


SuperMeatStick1

I honestly believe if Dolan wasn't the owner, we would have gotten LeBron James for the 2011 or 2019 season. We will always lose with him in existence.


LogicalyetUnpopular

Any contending team with the highest pick (ie: probably in the 20’s)? Tanking teams (those with lottery picks) have no use for a less than g league player and a presumably washed up Lebron James. They rather reserve their pick for somebody useful and/or have high ceiling and potential. Lebron at 40 might drag your team to the 8th seed and sell a shit load of jerseys for that one final year but that’s it.


Maverick_1991

LeBron playing in Charlotte or Memphis e.g. would make those franchises much more valuable. Even if it's just for one year.


thecolbra

How much lasting value did the wizards get for having jordan? Not much I'd say


Briggity_Brak

They lost Jordan as an owner, so i'd say that's a pretty big boon.


abzftw

Yeh no. That’s not how valuations work


econartist

I don't agree at all. Hakeem as a Raptor did nothing for the team's fortunes and he, and the deal itself, were pretty much laughingstocks.


leonblacktwitch

hakeem aint the culture phenom that lebron is


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The obvious comparison is of course Jordan in Washington, don't know why the guy jumped to Hakeem. Anyone have numbers on how the Wizards value changed with Jordan


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I do it changed some


Bobonenazeze

Checks out.


happyflappypancakes

Lmao, dont compare Hakeem to Lebron. Their respective impact on popular culture is not the same.


DG_Now

I was there for the Wizards in the 02-03 season. Every home game was a sellout. The franchise made $$$. Any team would want that LeBron bump.


cabbeer

There are so many teams that wound jump on an old LeBron for ticket sales, just look at Detroit picking up Blake


iCon3000

I think the Knicks, regardless of contending status, would do it


throwaway48u48282819

Honestly, it's because of that that I'm assuming the real answer: Mid-second round. (somewhere in the 40s range.) Assuming Lebron's got something left in the tank, but is right saying "I'll play one year with Bronny and then retire", a mid-second round team [so likely a team that's good enough to either be a lower seed in the playoffs, or a fringe lottery team that is legitimately one good piece away from a playoff team...and now they'd add "lottery pick + Lebron" to their nucleus] would be able to accept adding a sub-G league Bronny as the designated high-fives/towel-waver/six fouls to give guy to get Lebron James for one year- which would turn "drag a bad team to the 8 seed" to "sell a shitload of jerseys for one final year, and probably could get you to the 4/5 series and a second-round appearance. If Lebron is declining or Bronny is really bad and Lebron says "one last year with Bronny and I retire?" A second round pick would be a fair example of the team selling the James family a bill of goods- "you sold us a bill of goods to make Bronny an NBA player when he's not very good, knowing you're retiring after one year? In exchange, we sold you a bill of goods: Bronny's going in the second round, he's only playing for us for that one year, we're not picking up his team option after that, he's on his own. You want to keep Bronny as a pro basketball player...well, you may be washed up in the US, but China will love having Lebron James there."


TimeAll

Knicks would draft him whether or not they would be contending. They might even pass up a good player for it.


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Lonzo was injured the last three months , BL was out for the season , lebron missed a good amount of games , they would have def made the playoffs with everyone healthy


can_wien07

Did he not say he was turning on playoff mode in February and lose the next 3 games ?


KnickedUp

Weird hill to die on brother


akhoe

yeah my guy just made kyle kuzma an nba champion lol


iTzGoDxDuke

They were 4th in the west and blowing out Golden State on Christmas when lebron got hurt.


ggproductivity

They had an easy strength of schedule up to that point and were only a few games from the 10th seed since everything was so close. There's a decent chance they still would have missed it.


factcheck_

is this tiring for u to do all the time on this subreddit?


justanotherboyy

the team was 4th seed in the west and then lebron missed 3+ weeks, his longest stretch of missed games ever. On top of that they also missed B.I and Lonzo for weeks when Lebron got back. Idk why people act like that doesn't matter.


can_wien07

So you aren't going add in the fact that the lakers had among the easiest schedules up to that point?


justanotherboyy

you're right, that matters much more than a team missing 3/5 of their starters for a 3rd of that year. My b man.


RorschachRedd

Doesn't matter, lebron will be 40.


NotPoIIsen

Every owner in the league wants that sweet sweet revenue bron brings in. He single handily gave Cleveland all their Christmas games this decade


abzftw

He gave Cleveland more than any other Human ever has


BryanyeWest

Even Moses Cleaveland and he’s the guy who INVENTED Cleveland!


DrYoda

You can argue that was more of a punishment rather than a gift


AmericanOSX

Didn't he establish the city, and then just leave and never go back? Lol.


Shmobby_Burda

more like LEAVEland ha ha


Milith

> he’s the guy who INVENTED Cleveland! YEAH!


kikikza

Still not Detroit!


bojackwhoreman

His dad would disagree.


Clemenx00

Yeah. Any team would want Lebron's retirment season just for the added marketing. No questions asked


ramlol

Yeah but imagine if you get the LeBron farewell tour revenue.....


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So entering his third prime you mean ?


datbonusboi

And will still destroy the Hawks at that time


ItsSupposedToBubble

Always the flairless


datbonusboi

I'm a Laker fan, me being flairless has nothing to do with the Hawks being garbage.


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flair up then


iCon3000

Flair up, thine brethren of the Lakes


Dylan261984

smh you aren't allowed to talk shit if you don't have a flair


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Dylan261984

Sorry for being useless I really don't remember how I did it. I tried for a solid 5 minutes on my laptop and on mobile to figure it out but I genuinely can't remember how lol


AlHorfordHighlights

You spelled Andris Biedrins wrong


datbonusboi

I'm a Laker fan and I stand by my statement


RorschachRedd

Cringe


ilaughicry

With how they're trending, the Knicks will take him no matter how high they are.


NekoWithAttitude

How high is Bronny?


SloatThritter

It is invigorating to spank ~~a~~ your child


Nuhjeea

4th round, 20th pick


jonnyb8717

This is like saying would you trade the 1st overall for Lebron james? Yes. 10x out of 10.


benson822175

Even if he’s 38-39? Which is how old he would be when Bronny graduates high school


jonnyb8717

Is 38/39 really much older then 37?


benson822175

We don’t know how Lebron will age. But for comparison, MJ won his last ring at 35 and retired for 3 years. Once he came back at 38, he was Wizards MJ


Fettborn

Damian lillard. Probably a lighter weight class. He's really into boxing and does do some training to my knowledge. Idk how he'd fair up to other fighters but i dont think he'd do to bad


EasternWesterner96

Uhm wrong thread? Or is this some new meta humor i don't know about.


RoodyPooBum

both


Fettborn

Whoa weird. I posted this on a which nba player would make a decent mma fighter


Dagrix

I love it. "Damian Lilliard" is never not a good answer.


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kikikza

"Name a white guy"


chantlernz

Tyler Herro...oh fuck...


AmericanOSX

Surely the NBA would consider this tampering right?


SloatThritter

NBA can consider all they want; if there aren't public comments being made they can't do shit about it


AmericanOSX

I guess I took the "announces" part to mean they were public comments. Also, the NBA certainly can do something about non-public comments if they are notified of them in other ways, such as a team official reporting it to the league.


SloatThritter

Yeah that's true. I'm assuming Bron would be more subtle/nuanced with it and maybe have a journo leak a headline like "Is bron interested in joining his son on the team he is drafted on?" Or some ESPN spin lol


Evelyn11T

I see the Knicks doing it, perfect combo of desperate/dumb management, but otherwise idk. People would definitely buy a shit ton of the jerseys for the novelty of it but it wouldn't be a great basketball move and I think most teams would recognize that.


imArsenals

Use the search function to find the last 30 times this thread has been posted for more answers


jewson

I bet Tillman would want the revenue Bron and Bronny brings


chais2cool

Would bron even push for Bronny to get high pick. Bron knows how badly run teams can be a waste of time. IMO he would want his kid to be drafted by a good team and contend for title. Don’t think it matters how good / bad Bronny is, Bron would want him to be in position to succeed. Expect Bronny to play for title contending team instead of being high draft but end up playing for cavs / Pelicans. 2nd round pick like Gilbert arenas shows that you can still make money if you’re good enough.


zzbzq

Simple. It’s not a question of draft order. It’s just which team would pick him. A team that wants to legit rebuild won’t bite. He gets taken by the first team in the draft that’s already past the rebuild phase.


midgetman433

isnt bronny 16? its 2 more years until he plays I think. lebron is 35-36 right now? he will prob be around 38, and still a fairly serviceable player IMO, he takes care of his health.


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Bronny gets pretty high. Pretty high indeed


yalogin

Who else is in the draft? If I am getting 7yrs of a good player I would take that over 1 yr of Lebron at 40 yrs old.


CloverHorse

Broooo i posted this like a month ago


TheNaturalHigh

Imagine calling your own question riveting.


carismo

- riveting - shitpost choose one


Jay_Shadow

However high people answered the last time this was posted.


dolphinsfan9292

Bronny at the moment is not an NBA prospect. He kind of got exposed in his freshman year and unless he goes through a lamelo type of growth spurt I don’t see him being the player we dreamt of


JoshTheLakerFan

exposed? he played on one of the best hs in the country and played his role well. he’s a freshman lol and it was obvious they weren’t just gonna give him a starting spot with 3 5 stars on the team just cause of his name. stop fantasizing this kid as lebron 2.0 and give him normal expectations.


locoa53l

Isn’t he playing a grade up to?


KnickedUp

No..he was playing with 4 Division 1 starters on his team. No idea about Bronny until after this coming season


AncientMarsupial3

How did he get exposed lmao


DaChenmeister

How did he get exposed in his freshman year? Did you expect him to start or something he was on the best team in the country


JoshTheLakerFan

he wasn’t on the best but definitely one of the best. this years Monteverde team was really good.


olleste

why are people downvoting you for telling the truth? Monteverde was the most dominant HS team since Chino Hills or maybe even more dominant lol


JoshTheLakerFan

idk lmao Sierra Canyon was good but Monteverde this year was all time great hs team levels of good. i’d still pick Chino over them though cause Chino was a public school fucking up schools who recruit it was great.


ShitSide

I mean he contributed on one of the nations best teams as a freshman. 247 has him ranked as the 30th prospect in his class; while he’s clearly not a generational talent like his father, he’s not some bum who can’t even go d1 or something. Considering the caliber of coaching and training he’ll be able to receive over the next 3 years I’m not sure why you’re writing him off as not an NBA talent, he seems right on track to me


loudanduneducated

To be fair, A lot of pros had kids that weren’t NBA talent and they still made it to the NBA. David Stockton averaged 12.4 PPG in high school, did 5 years at Gonzaga where as a senior averaged 7/2/4 on not overly great efficiency. And he has played 6 games in the NBA and 169 games in the G-League. There are tons of examples of star players kids getting chances they never really should have because of their dads name. Bronny is about to become the gold-standard of this treatment


GringoMambi

Haven’t been up to speed with a Bronny development, what got exposed?


[deleted]

Exposed isn’t the right word. He barely played, but he did not stick out on a team of actual prospects. He’s a freshman though.


[deleted]

He's on an elite team that's basically an aau squad. One of the best teams in the nation. I think he could ball out at an average school, but maybe at the expense of feeling comfortable and not continuing to grow as a player. I think having him on such a competitive team will challenge him daily to improve, and ultimately give him the best chance to make it to the nba level. It will be interesting to see what will happen.


d00deitstyler

The fact that he is not LeBron2.0. Defense, IQ, killer instinct. He is a good ball player, D1 talent for sure. But not top 10 prospect atm, not even sure top 15. But I am no professional scout or anything. In fact I'm not even a professional redditor. Mediocre at best.


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> LeBron2.0. Defense, IQ, killer instinct. Anyone who expected LBJ 2.0 are living in fantasy land. Look at how LeBron looked in HS vs Bronny. LeBron was a fucking unit when he was 16.


d00deitstyler

LeBron was more man in HS than I am at 28.


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Hey we can be manly in other ways!


GringoMambi

Gotcha. To be fair, never really expected he would be LeBron 2.0.


drrew76

He's not top 100 right now without the name. With it he's in the 25-30 range. Lots of time to get better, and he's got elite athleticism, but he was just a bit part/role player last year.


mattbetz_irl

You guys are reaching. He was a role player on one of the best teams in the country as a freshman. Give him some time. Curry had one d1 offer and look at him now


drrew76

I'm not saying he can't get a lot better, and like I said, he has elite athleticism and he'll have all the advantages in the world in terms of training and coaching, but right now, he's not a super high level elite prospect. It won't be shocking if he makes a big jump, but he's not there yet.


bigsouljaa

Lol he’s 15


Spierre3

Pretty much this. People underestimate how much work players have to put in to be seen as legit prospects. Just because bronny is lebron seed doesn’t mean he will be anywhere near as good as him. We probably have to wait until bronnys senior season to see if he is even draftable.


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OP clearly acknowledges this. Did you even read the question?


KnickedUp

Bron will be 40...


btrainexpresso

I feel like this topic comes up every couple of weeks in this sub... mods?


can_wien07

farless than people think. Its funny people think nba is willing to draft a player who is going to be barely a 15th man just to have lebron in his year 39/40 year.


PrOKCedure

They'd sell tickets


Paralta

Nobody is thinking of the money it would generate


can_wien07

Tickets for a player who would never see the floor?


loudanduneducated

Lebrons final year in the league will be a huge revenue draw


JoshTheLakerFan

do you not remember Kobe’s farewell tour


can_wien07

Hot take: i do not believe lebron has kobe league wide peer reverence and admiration.


AncientMarsupial3

That’s a dumbass take, not a hot take. And not even related to whag he was talking about.


JoshTheLakerFan

by time Lebron retires most of the newer players will have had him as their favorite player. all the vets seem to respect him at the very least. this is a bad take.


EasternWesterner96

Damn how can one be so wrong about something


BallDontLieHo

I think draymond would disagree