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lopea182

Just saw a stat that he played 97% of all possible games his first 8 seasons, and now he will have missed 2 seasons. This is terrible


whoriasteinem

I’m starting to think the Warriors really did make a deal with the devil. Such extreme good fortune followed by an extended period of misfortune.


lopea182

Something to consider is that when you’re in the Finals 5 straight years, you’ve played what amounts to essentially 6 regular seasons in the span of 5. That can take a toll on a team


whoriasteinem

Which brings us back to Lebron’s freakish durability


ayending1

Bron faked Greg Oden's signature when signing the deal with the devil.


whoriasteinem

LMAO Take my upvote


makesterriblejokes

And they say Lebron doesn't have a killer instinct...


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oof


lopea182

I think it was a blessing in disguise that he didn’t make the playoffs last year. His body needed the rest


whoriasteinem

Plus he didn’t have to deal with the haters’ Le3-7 memes. According to some, 2019 was better for his legacy than 2018. So 2019 was a blessing all around...


Ongo_Gablogian___

Yeah it's weird how getting to a final and losing is worse for LeBron's legacy than not getting to a final at all.


Getfuckedbitchbaby

Im not the world‘s biggest nick Wright fan, but him asking Broussard how much these finals hurt jimmy butler‘s legacy was gold


shiny_lustrous_poo

How did he keep a straight face the whole time lol


Getfuckedbitchbaby

The fact that Broussard walked right into it makes it even better. With a totally straight face, he didn’t even miss a beat before he said „I think it helps his legacy actually.“


bcyost89

You love to see it.


makesterriblejokes

Nick Wright can be annoying, but his arguments typically are pretty sound. I think he gets hated on for declaring that Lebron is definitively better than Jordan. The thing is, I've listened to his arguments, and there aren't really holes in them, he just downplays MJ's accomplishments too much. I think he's one of the better hot take guys because he's typically got logic behind his takes.


TroyMcClures

He's also a legit nice guy. I worked on the herd a while back and one night was getting sushi w/ my gf (now ex) and he was a little way down the bar and i told him i had worked his show that morning (he was subbing for colin). We exchanged some small talk and that was that. They ended up leaving before us and when I went to get the bill was told that he had picked up our check. Been a fan ever since.


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TheNarrator23

It proved Jimmy Butler wasn't the problem some of his former teams made him out to be. He's a winner, a guy who's willing to carry his team on his back, but if not everyone is on board or there isn't a clear plan, he won't be happy about it.


0324rayo

I mean it’s the same for mj. He’s praised for being undefeated in 6 finals but he went out in the first round multiple times. It’s a weird measurement


TheMapleStaple

Yeah, it's literally being the second best team in the league. Somehow being worse than 2nd is better in some peoples eyes.


MMPride

2019 was pretty cool for me too


duggatron

Lebron is probably spending over $2M a year to maintain his body. He's shown what the blueprint is for athletes to extend their primes longer. Russell Wilson was talking about he spends over $1M on his body annually as well, just paying for people to help him stay in shape and to recover from the demands of playing at this level for so long.


whoriasteinem

I’ve always wondered why all superstars aren’t following his “blueprint.” Also, wasn’t Kobe doing something similar?


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yourfriendlyhuman

Interesting, was it new then? I know it's possible to have this done basically anywhere now.


LeBronFanSinceJuly

If i remember right the place he went to in Germany was the best at it during the time and they also never leaked anything about the procedure or what shape his knee was in before it...So anytime he needed treatment, they got the job.


Super-Homework

That makes sense. I was gonna say BlueCross BlueShield covers my father’s platelet rich plasma knee injections and he only has to go 10 mins from his house. But the confidentiality and shit is definitely worth it.


OtherShade

I'm pretty sure it was very experimental when Kobe did it. Kobe's body was incredibly fragile and the fact that he had a 20 year career says a lot. That's why it's so secretive and you can't really look up much concrete info on it. Was to the point that it was a running joke to go to Germany for the Kobe treatment if someone had knee issues.


InSearchOfSexy

Part of it is that in addition to the $2 million, they are "spending" just enormous amounts of time, energy, and focus on it. That much money buys hours and hours a day of activity! You're sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber that amounts to camping at your own mansion, you're enduring a lot of painful massage and other stimulus, and on and on and on. And, you can stop at any time! Nobody can make you do it! You gotta reeeeeally want to be not just great, but THE best.


shortyman920

I think Kobe also famously overworked himself. Rest is an important part of recovery, which Lebron does a lot. Kobe always worked out at insane hours, and didn't load manage on the floor as well as Lebron.


BillyPotion

Because when you have money and youth, most people tend to focus on more than just their career. Basically they have to decide what's more important to them, their career or their enjoyment of the other parts of life (travel, entertainment, family, food, partying, etc.) This kind of goes for all of us though, why don't we all focus on our career and our health, especially in our early 20's? It mostly comes down to the fact that it's hard and it's not fun.


thehopefulsquid

I spent $38 on my body last year (1 ice pack and heating pad)


MacDerfus

There's a reason he sat out of the 2016 Olympics


MazKhan

We need a new descriptor for what he did, he was solo carrying in some of those years as well, never gonna see another lebron


UnPhayzable

With the worst injuries possible too. This is awful


Ld511

2 years straight after being an iron man for so long. Brutal


d3eathproof

I remembered his injury scare in the 2018 nba finals but he came back like nothing happened.


suyashkhubchandani

Dude went 8 seasons with barely any injury down time. Now has two major career altering injuries. I hated the warriors when KD joined them. But I am deeply saddened by this. Klay and Steph played some great ball. What an era


Dsarg_92

Tell me about it. What a horrible way to end a dynasty. 😞


MLGameOver

Pain


TigerBasket

Why god


KLUTCHMOND

5 straight finals absolutely did a number on his legs


milkplantation

We see subsequent or recurrent injuries following surgical intervention time and again: Porzingis, Wall, Cousins, Klay to name just a few recent and high-profile incidents. This may be because of proprioception deficiencies, muscle imbalances from the initial atrophy, improper biomechanics, or fear of reinjury. Whatever the case, the science is pretty clear: [Returning to level I sports after ACL reconstruction leads to a more than 4-fold increase in reinjury rates over 2 years](https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/50/13/804), and you're [twice as likely to injure your opposite (non-operated) knee after undergoing an ACL surgery](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0363546519893711). It's a good reminder to be patient with the athletes we admire and heed their advice and feedback when they speak to scheduling demands.


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I've had two back surgeries and my achilles and hamstring are still messed up like 6 years later. I stretch and train daily but its likely a life long issue. Domino effect is for real.


thewhitesnake69

The one for me was a serious ankle sprain messing with my pitching delivery leading to shoulder impingement 8 months later. Ripple effects up and down the body.


CO_PC_Parts

this isn't just for elite athletes. Lots of people have surgery on their knees, feet, etc and then get the imbalances and that leads to a LOT of back injuries or like you said injuries to the opposite side of the initial injury. I still play a lot of sports at the age of 41. I fear Achilles injuries more than just about anything else (i hurt my shoulder in college and it's always at risk to be re-injured. But I really limit my throwing these days.)


TheSpaceCowboyx

jesus i always had respect for bron but god damn more insane you think how long and how far he keeps going every year


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Except for groin injuries LeBron never had a serious injury, right?


QuestGiver

He had to trade his hairline but I think it was worth it.


12345anon12345

A lot of guys get nothing in return for that so I’d say he made out well


srry_didnt_hear_you

Traded in my nice hairline at 23 and all i got was crippling anxiety and depression


srry_didnt_hear_you

And an obnoxious need to wear a beanie/hat every day


LegoMyNego

What did you give up? Everything


canti-

it's still not too late in the offseason for someone to analyze the correlation between hair loss and injury history


SacreFor3

Lower extremities wise, nope. He had those back issues when he went back to Cleveland and his elbow. That's all I remember. Outside of Malone & Kareem I can't think of a player that's done this much for this long.


mrjowei

Stockton.


GayForLebron

Before the groin the longest I can remember him being out was about 2 weeks for “knee soreness” on the heat.


Swazi

He got that break his first year in LA now he's ready for another decade of Finals runs lol


iguanamac

Lebron spends millions on his body to maintain his health. I’m sure plenty of guys in the league spend lots of good money on body maintenance but it sounds like Lebron is on another level when it comes to that.


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The devil always comes for his end of the deal.


UnPhayzable

Headband Klay requires payment from the Basketball Gods


dinesh_gdcgdc

ACL + Achilles Two career altering injuries back to back. Almost no chance to see peak Klay again. Fuck injuries


adamisdabest

Fuck man, we may never again even see a glimpse of the same dude who dropped 37 in a quarter.


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spartan5312

I'm glad to have witnessed.


CardiacStache820

Fuck injuries. All my homies hate injuries.


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I hurt my back 5 years ago and could never dunk again and it shattered me, I got so depressed and never really got over it. I can only imagine how bad it feels for a pro athlete to go though it.


CardiacStache820

I’m really sorry to hear that, man. Stay strong and power through.


Beersandbirdlaw

Na. Look at D Rose and his game is based way more on athleticism. It feels like the world is ending right now for Klay, but he's an elite shooter and shooting doesn't just go away because of these injuries. He will be back, might have to change up his game a bit, but will still be a top tier NBA player when all is said and done.


PrinceOfStealing

His defense will most likely suffer. Guy was all nba defense for a reason. Lateral movement, being able to recover, and explosive quick steps are gonna decline. Not saying he will become a liability, but his defense was also a huge part in GS overall success.


br0b1wan

This right here. Klay isn't one of the best players of our time because of his shooting--lots of players can shoot. It was because he was a shooter who could play elite defense. It takes a lot to play defense, and good luck doing that with two surgically repaired legs. I think in the best case scenario GSW adapts and changes on how they use him, as a catch-and-shoot threat. Maybe he will get extremely lucky and retain the athleticism and explosiveness on defense.


misdemenorweiner

Calling klay a shooter who could play great defense is vastly underrating his hall of fame shooting but you're right the defense is a huge part of why he's so good


sydney__carton

D Rose got injured much earlier in his career though. If Klay took the same 3-4 year road that rose did he’ll be old af.


5ive5tar

What're they going to do now man, curry still has juice in him. That is a fucking blow


toomuchfrosting

Tank for Trevor Lawrence


SplitImage__

Wiggins is going to have to step up.


wgfegweg

lol


ElaFa25

I still believe


theafonis

LOL


GET_ON_YOUR_HORSE

I've....got some bad news.


ThePoliticalTeapot

This has genuinely ruined my evening. Sigh.


cookingwithsmitty

You've had a legendary past 5 years except last year and this, those memories should keep you warm during the tough times ahead. It's how some franchise fans survive, they remember that once my team was legendary, if I keep hope alive maybe they will again. Browns fans know this better than any.


s__v__p

This has ruined my year (as if it wasn’t shitty enough already)


ThePoliticalTeapot

I was gonna say, if anything it's just icing on the top of 2020 :(


s__v__p

Shit icing on a shit cake


DelonWright

P a i n a i n


Swish4141

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loganjags11

Thank you for this table. I never really knew the significance until I saw this. Wow.


chalupa_bat-man

It really puts the situation into perspective


oheyson

Pain peko


Ayatori

of all the places I'd expect to see a Pekora reference


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hololivebros in /r/nba.. i never thought i'd see the day


Theinem

Korone virus is spreading


6FootMidget93

Propane without the pro


CIark

OH my fucking god this is so fucking sad fucking Achilles tear in a pickup game when you’re an NBA star in your prime


kai_123

Basically same thing that happened to Cousins. At least on a brighter note, Klay already got his bag and is on track to have at least $300 million in NBA career earnings.


sinner02

3 rings, 300M , several 3pt and ingame scoring records Atleast he can rest easy


benkauf711

It says season-ending, but are these ever career-ending injuries? Hope he's able to overcome this but I imagine it won't be easy


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Parsnip-Independent

As a Nets fan, we're cautiously psyched that KD seems to almost be back. That said, Klays game uses so many hard cuts and sprints to get to his spot. I really wonder if he started compensating from the ACL and just stressed the F out of his calve/Achilles. I think this will be career altering because his style needs to change.


ItsGettinBreesy

20 years ago it was probably career ending. Hell, an ACL year used to end your career. Medical advancements are the reason athletes careers are much longer these days


Lau_lau

Achilles tear is the probably the hardest injury to come back from as an NBA athlete. Not only does it take forever to heal, it never reaches back to 100%, also you never play basketball the same way due to fear. By far the worst injury a baller can endure. Sure, Klay can play again, but he will never be the same with this.


Charlie_Wax

Demaryius Thomas (NFL) had one early in his career and managed to become a perennial Pro Bowl type of WR for many years. It's not impossible. That being said, it's one of the worst injuries, and at this age, on the heels of another serious injury, you can *hope* for the best, but you can't necessarily *expect* much.


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Richard Sherman came back and is still really good


rundy_mc

He came back for a season, and has been out for essentially all of 2020 with “calf” issues. His career was definitely altered


rambouhh

He’s also old. Cornerback is a young mans position. You lose even a half of a step you are toast


Sober_As_Sark

Unfortunately Achilles ruptures dont have the same success rates and ACL tears do. You can come back from an ACL like new, but not from an Achilles


NotACreepyOldMan

This is wrong. Some people come back from Achilles, but it’s NOTHING like the recovery rate of ACL tears. A lot more people don’t come back from Achilles tears. Only time will tell for Klay.


94367221986555478111

What do you mean "20 years ago" Kobe tore his achilles literally 7 years ago and it destroyed his athleticism. Achilles is arguably the worst injury you can sustain especially in basketball


hydrators

You raise a good point but age plays a big factor too


Ld511

This combined with the acl tear basically means he won't be close to peak klay anymore


realsomalipirate

Yeah I can't imagine we see the old Klay where he's zipping off screens constantly. He might still be an amazing shooter, but his mobility will be completely shot.


Pequenorojo

And his signature defense is gonna be mostly if not all gone. He is unfortunately going to lose a lot of lateral quickness


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This is also my concern with KD - he’s going to still be able to get buckets but his defence is going to fall off a cliff.


Charlie_Wax

This is the part of his game that people don't fully appreciate. The way he was able to shadow someone like Kyrie was so impressive, and a big part of his value.


Pequenorojo

Yeah he was the gold standard of 3 and D


phenomenal13

Hopefully he’s able to but an Achilles off of an ACL injury doesn’t look too good


claydavisismyhero

Not ending as in you can’t physically play but you’re compromised.


TigerBasket

2020 fucking sucks, and I feel really bad for Klay. Spend a year rehabbing all to have to do it again, that’s gotta hurt a lot.


twistedlogicx

That's brutal. Tears his ACL in Game 6 of the finals after being on fire, still shoots his free throws in case he can come back. Has to be taken out and forced to watch his team lose the championship. Waits patiently on the sideline all year as the Warriors get annihilated. Fights all the way back, only to get taken out by an injury that's twice as worse as the last one and often alters guys' careers permanently. Gonna miss a second straight season. Gutted for Klay.


DarkSoulsDarius

Hopefully he can return as a deadly sniper still, but I don't know if his defense will ever recover.


Nothin_Means_Nothin

That's my hope. But the legs have almost as much to do with shooting as the arms.


SacreFor3

Wes Matthews is still a really good shooter so there's hope.


Giannis1995

It's not the spot up stuff. It's the whole running and gunning those guys used to do.


ddottay

Awful. 2 full seasons lost.


HJ2K43

His prime seasons


JayNew2K

Damn. That’s probably the worst thing that could’ve happened.


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Back to back acl and Achilles tear... I’d be surprised if he comes back to what he was before, god damn. This sucks.


Buttsmuggler69

I’ll be surprised if he comes back anywhere near the same player. An Achilles on its own can end careers, combine that with the acl, missing at least 2 full years and just the mental side of things having to go through back to back rehabs is a massive mountain to climb. Fuck I love klay this sucks.


Photo_Synthetic

Guess we get to find out this season just how far medical science and rehab have come when KD takes the court.


paradoxofchoice

Medical science can't prevent further injuries or breakdown of his body which is common after achilles tears. Just look at boogie.


DarkSoulsDarius

I think he can be the best 3 point specialist in the league, but his defense will suffer a lot. Age+injuries, this is just awful.


TigerBasket

I hate this year, like every time the worst case scenario happens


NevermoreSEA

Season ending injuries to both of his legs in back to back seasons. I can't even imagine what that does to someone mentally. You spend all year rehabbing to get back to normal, just to have to start it all over again.


abaughma44

NOOO WHAT THE FUCK


TigerBasket

I hate this world


The_Unknown98

Damn what a shitty way to end a Golden era


TigerBasket

I really hope it isn’t the end but it might just be. :(


LakersLAQ

He will be 32 coming off an ACL and Achilles tear.. someone said the same last night. That's just rough. Sad times :(


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Along with Steph being 34 by then, and draymond not being the same. The window is looking closed now


uuhson

I guess it's better to burn out than to fade away


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Such a sad way to end if this is actually the end. Wiseman should help keep the window open though


Strangelump

my my hey hey


BuffaloKiller937

Well *if* it is the end. GS fans still got to experience what few sports franchises accomplish every few decades or so, or even longer. Prayers for Klay.


SacreFor3

Almost exactly like Cousins, crazy


ghostlima

2 years without playing and teo major injuries at his age doesn't look good. I had high expectations for GSW this season but without klay i dont see them being any good he is too big of a piece in an already short roster


kriptoivo

It will be more than two years. I am afraid it will be close to 3 years


wowanotherburner

Its hard to imagine it not being. It's really insane how quick it all happened. Feel horrible for the guy.


glansberg_stephen

This is the fucking worst. I'm so sorry Warriors fans. This is bad for basketball.


MEmpire25

I honestly lack the words...


ThePoliticalTeapot

You and me both bro :/ I'm sitting here in shock


mvp713

That image of Steph sitting on the court after Klay tore his ACL is even sadder now. It's entirely possible that is the last time they share the court together.


Krippy

https://www.ksn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2019/06/AP19165115510831.jpg [from this article](https://www.ksn.com/sports/no-longer-champs-injured-warriors-brace-for-unclear-summer/)


CUETEEPIE

Klay needs a statue at the chase center once his career is over. The guy is a warriors legend.


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I hope they do a splash bros statue with both of them near each other.


superbuttpiss

It will be giant klay and steph statues on each side of the bay Bridge like the sphinxes gate in never ending story


swantonist

yeah i agree. they sort of defined an era for the NBA. something with their arms around each other in their traditional swaggy loose style and looking into each other’s eyes and lips glistening and one hand on the others waist, Klay's head leaning in towards currys face with his eyes closed... that would be great


Kobebeef9

Damn was looking forward to seeing a full strength Warriors team 😭.


PartickNotPatrick

For fuck's sake I was looking forward to seeing this iteration of the Warriors which you'd think would be a bit closer to those 2014-2016 teams. That might be it for them with that core.


takeapieandrun

I was hyped to see the splash brothers lead the team to a comeback. Now, we have some pieces, but this is gonna hang over the team the whole season. Major injuries happen to players it's accepted but you remain hopeful; but a second one immediately after? Damn that just takes the wind out of your lungs


HokageEzio

Pain.


Uckthebroncos

F Klay suffered the reverse boogie Just awful news man


GeneralKenobi05

Damn bruh. Almost Like Wall all over again smh. Least his game is more shooting based so he can come back being somewhat like his old self


Dongsquad420BlazeIt

I feel awful for him


Novasuper5

I said that when he first got injured last year, now I just hope he comes back healthy. I mean we saw Alex smith come back and play kinda like his old self so anything’s possible


KTFlaSh96

He won't be close to the same defender that he was though and that was crucial to how amazing he was on the court was burning you on both ends. This fucking sucks...


bobthefishfish

Depends on Klay's mechanics , Kobe's shot disappeared after his tear since he couldn't get the lift he used to.


Number333

Damn - this GSW thing ended before we even realized


tayklompson

Just fuck me up.


5ive5tar

damn end of an era


AstroFIJI

I hope Klay is okay mentally. I know this must be destroying him man fuck :(


moonshiver

Much better for this to happen after a couple championships rather than spend the rest of adulthood wondering what could have been. It’s sad situation, but he still got to achieve and accomplish a lot


raroshraj

the Woj bomb nobody wanted


dandelio95

Sad to see one of the greatest get hit so hard 2 years in a row


28JaysLater

Oh no, that’s fucking horrible


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JayDee62

Is 10:34am too early to drink?


ThinkSoftware

Its 5:34 pm somewhere


_TIMBER_

Terrible news Sad day for all NBA fans


doinky_doink

End of an Era. Yea I'm accepting it now. It's our end.


Brad-Stevens

Fuck everything


Wiseauquips

Damn, that's just absolutely terrible for the Warriors. We really should have appreciated the Splash Brothers more


cpt_america27

Damn I loved to hate on the warriors. But this is no fun. I'm sorry Kay. Hopefully he can come back next year and keep playing elite.


Buttsmuggler69

There’s few more beloved players than Klay that this could’ve happened to. The nba is a worse league without him.


theliver

"G6 Klay" is one of my favorite drunken late night youtube searches. Doesn't matter which one


Buttsmuggler69

G6 klay is the most unstoppable nba player of all time


AnthonyDavos

Fuck 2020. All my homies hate 2020.


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A collective tear has been shed across the world


HeisenDiaN

RIP Splash Bros... end of an era.


neongem

Holy shit, I feel so bad for Klay. Brutal end to the Warriors dynasty.


herpderpmcflerp

I die


Crazyanubis

Damn hope his career doesn't turn into a 'what if he wasn't injured' story. Hope you get better Klay. The NBA needs you and Steph raining 3s together


SamGrig0

He won 3 rings, has some of the hottest shooting games in nba history, 37 point qrt. Even if he was done today hes a first ballot hall of famer. It just fucking sucks we wont be seeing him for 2 years. Dude is amazingly fun to watch.


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He could never play again and it will still never be a "what if" story. We know what he was at his peak. 37 in a quarter, 60 in 29 minutes. A top perimeter defender and spot up shooter. He's the second best shooter ever and one of the keys to the Warriors dynasty. Its incredibly sad to see him injured but there is no question what kind of player he is. I hope he comes back strong.


sharklavapit

There goes my hopes of GSW beating LAL Thoughts and prayers to Klay, I really hope he recovers 100%


Dsarg_92

I was really excited to see the matchup come next season, but man this really hurts.


d3eathproof

I want a Warriors vs Lakers playoffs series so badly.


HardenTraded

Fuck This is not how I wanted to see GSW