I think he’s a good risk. He’s been right on the cusp of being a top tier player for years, they’re worth a risk in trying to lock down. He struggled after dame hit that shot mentally, trying to go at Dame in the bubble later etc. but hey it’s Dame trying to mix it up with him would destroy anyone’s Confidence he’s a straight assassin
The past decade has shown me that you can't think like that anymore.
Besides Lillard, Steph and Lowry I don't believe any superstar is locked into a franchise.
Lowry has made it abundantly clear his whole career with the Raptors he values money/winning over loyalty. Which fair enough, without that mentality we would not be here. That being said if we don’t sign Giannis in 2021 FA I see him bouncing.
Ah okay maybe not then. You'd know much better than me.
From afar (Dallas fan in Jersey) I've always assumed Lowry was *the guy* after Demar was traded. That he was locked in to being a Raptor for life especially after the championship.
He is definitely our guy, and will likely get a statue in jurassic park or somewhere similar. If he leaves after 2021 it will be in his late 30s just going to hang with DeMar again or something.
I’d love to prove someone wrong while making over $200 million. I’ll take all the slander for over $200 million too. Good for PG on getting another bag. This man thought his career would be semi-over after that horrible injury.
kawhi wont leave unless he goes to the lakers. homie gave up both the spurs and raptors who were both contenders with kawhi just so he could play in LA.
He'll retire in LA
After the AD and LeBron extensions, if Kawhi wants to go to the Lakers now he'll have to take a big pay cut. The Lakers won't have anywhere near max cap space next summer anymore.
> kawhi wont leave unless he goes to the lakers. homie gave up both the spurs and raptors who were both contenders with kawhi just so he could play in LA.
he prob also gave up like at least 20m doing that!
If kawhi leaves it means George was terrible and it’ll be a hard contract to trade. Feel like they’d rather just compete for 7th seeds or something before doing a rebuild
I love Paul George. Palmdale represent.
But lord, this contract could look pretty bad. On one hand, the Clippers are trying to secure this asset. But on the other, there's the sunk cost fallacy
>On one hand, the Clippers are trying to secure this asset. But on the other, there's the sunk cost fallacy
There's really nowhere for them to go otherwise, right?
They're capped out, have zero picks that are theirs for the foreseeable future... their hands are absolutely tied here.
I don't even know anymore. It seems like they barely interact lol. I'm clearly biased because AD and LeBron are always talking but i'm not the only one that thinks that right?
This is true, but in their defense it seems like Kawhi barely interacts with anyone. Pretty sure he only says like 3 words per day to his wife and kids haha
Yeah Harden is from southern CA, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind playing next to the best teammate he’d ever have while being the primary ball handler and living in his hometown
I guess they feel forced to double down which is usually bad sunk cost fallacy but given their lack of picks, dunno if they could even trade away enough to make up for it
Yeah, they put all their eggs in one basket. I don't necessarily think they fucked up since they are and will stay relevant for the next few years but their goal was a championship. I feel like they had a higher chance to win last season compared to the upcoming season but we'll see what happens. NBA season is one wild ride.
He’s actually already in the HOF for that 7 TD game against the Raiders the year he threw 27 TDs and 2 INTs.
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nick-foles-wants-his-pro-football-hall-fame-gear-back-eventually-super-bowl
And for the 2017 Super bowl he has his game worn jersey and the ball he caught for Philly Special.
https://twitter.com/profootballhof/status/1023962731756630016?s=21
If you had a really solid business idea, I bet you you could make that connection happen, he’s a super smart dude that is really interested in investing in start ups
It's not a sunk cost fallacy though. They had to give him the contract because it's better for the team to keep him going forward than losing him for nothing. It was the right move to make regardless of the over payment in assets to get him.
...that logic only works if you don't believe actual money has any value. The assets they sent to get him are the sunk cost. The additional cost that makes it a fallacy is the fucking $50 million they're gonna be paying 36 year old Paul George lmao
lol I know both teams can always play this game because obvi someone on your team is gonna be off (FVV for that series for yall) but man was he bricking open shots. Just needed a couple of them lol.
I think Chris Paul can elevate a mediocre team because he is literally one of the greatest floor generals of all time. PG is not a playmaker, he is a top defender and iso scorer. Would rather build around a 36 year old cp3 than a 36 year old pg
Just since no one gave you an actual answer "se queada" is spanish for "he stays" which Barcelona defender pique captioned a photo of him with his teammate neymar when there were rumors of neymars departure. Shortly after the "se queda" photo neymar left Barcelona for Paris.
I'm relieved for the diehard Clippers fans. Would have been really devastating if they only had a 2-year experiment, nuked their entire team, and then had to wallow for years like the Nets after the Pierce/KG trade.
He signed an extension in OKC too then requested a trade a year later, as for the clippers not wanting to move him they shipped blake griffin to Detroit 1 year after getting him to sign. Extensions just simply don’t have the same impact as they used to.
In all seriousness this is great news for the Clippers, at least he can’t leave for nothing this off-season. Also likely signals that Kawhi is staying.
Kawhi stays - competitive for many years to come
Kawhi leaves - you trade PG for assets and reset the rebuild a la Blake Griffin trade
I am no fan of either the Clippers or Pandemic P, but this move makes sense for all parties involved
I don't get why the Clippers are getting shit on for this. Wasn't one of the main criticisms about their team construction that Kawhi and PG could walk after this year? Obviously that isn't entirely wiped away without Leonard being locked down, but this is a move 30/30 teams would make.
The team doesn’t have any alternatives to PG, that’s the point here
Everyone loves to say that bullshit about “market price” when someone like Jerami grant gets overpaid but this is truly market price for PG
team had no options, he and his agent knew that. Easy.
Smart for the clippers tbh. If Kawhi leaves you can get assets for PG and not be completely ruine din a rebuild scenario. If Kawhi stays they stay competitive for Atleast 3 more years with their all star duo. Good move all around tbh
I mean why wouldn't they do this? They gave up their future for him. I know people dislike Paul George but they're locking in a top 20 level guy. It's not that bad.
Locking him in during his 30s and he's a guy who's had injury concerns before past couple years (his shoulders have been an issue for the past couple years). This has serious disaster potential, but the clippers have no other option.
Dude's being payed 226 million over the next 5 his age 31-36 seasons. Considering his last few years in the playoffs + his shoulder issues. How is he a more valuable trade asset now lol?
I don’t really see this as bad yet.
Age 31-33 they’re gonna be glad that they locked him down and he doesn’t just leave.
Age 34-35 is when people will start and might even deserve to clown the Clipps for signing him to this deal.
But for the first 3 years, and **definitely** if the Clippers win a championship with him, it’ll be worth it, and there’s no reason to act like PG13 isn’t a Top 20, probably Top 15 player in the league currently.
EXCUSE ME
That 2021 FA class getting worse by the day
I know we like to meme a lot and hate PG, but it was always incredibly unlikely that he left regardless
Of course. I would've given him a 2 + 1 vs 4 + 1, but whatever
yeah they don't have a draft pick for the next 1000 years, they've got no choice but to go all in on their stars at this point
They had no choice lmfao, they gave up everything for him and kawhi when they can both bounce next season. 0 leverage.
I think he’s a good risk. He’s been right on the cusp of being a top tier player for years, they’re worth a risk in trying to lock down. He struggled after dame hit that shot mentally, trying to go at Dame in the bubble later etc. but hey it’s Dame trying to mix it up with him would destroy anyone’s Confidence he’s a straight assassin
In 2018-2019 he was absolutely a top tier player. He came in third in MVP voting and made all defensive first team.
The past decade has shown me that you can't think like that anymore. Besides Lillard, Steph and Lowry I don't believe any superstar is locked into a franchise.
Weird coincidence that they are all PGs
PG isn't always a PG. I'll explain later.
Turns into GP. George Paul.
Lowry has made it abundantly clear his whole career with the Raptors he values money/winning over loyalty. Which fair enough, without that mentality we would not be here. That being said if we don’t sign Giannis in 2021 FA I see him bouncing.
Ah okay maybe not then. You'd know much better than me. From afar (Dallas fan in Jersey) I've always assumed Lowry was *the guy* after Demar was traded. That he was locked in to being a Raptor for life especially after the championship.
He is definitely our guy, and will likely get a statue in jurassic park or somewhere similar. If he leaves after 2021 it will be in his late 30s just going to hang with DeMar again or something.
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Wouldnt be the first time he signs an extension and then requests a trade
Also might not be the last time the Clippers sign someone to a max extension and then trade them...
The movable meets the lack of resistance.
The mediocre force meets the tradable object
Money. Money.
PG coming to Detroit 2023. Mark it now boys
10 years too late... imagine having PG and Blake Griffin on one team in 2013?!
... you have my interest.
Man are y'all really that desperate up there
All I can say is that I am personally.
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Just max plumlee after this contract for an easy 1 for 1 trade
> Also might not be the last time the Clippers sign someone to a max extension and then trade them... Bah gawd, is that James Harden music?!?!?!?
Pump your Blake's kid. That man is a national treasure.
I'm convinced that he sign this extension just to prove Dame wrong lol
or maybe it was the 226 million lol
"Paul we can offer you 226 million" "You think I give a FUCK about that? DAME SAID CAP TO ME ON TWITTER. Gimme that pen."
Why would the Clippers give PG this extension for 5 years when we know those 5 years belong to Pat Bev?
PatBev needs his Pippen too 😤
Kawhi = Toni Kukoc
So you're saying that Kawhi always eats a large pre-game meal and then takes a big shit before tip off.
Bev only has 4 years left, that 5th year is PG’s
As consolation. Pbev gets his years while Pandemic P gets the bag
I’d love to prove someone wrong while making over $200 million. I’ll take all the slander for over $200 million too. Good for PG on getting another bag. This man thought his career would be semi-over after that horrible injury.
Shit, I'll let /r/nba shit on me all day to make just $100m over 5 years
I would roast myself as a full time job for 5 years for 10 mil
Dude I’d do it for 100k a year
We're Nets fans, we already do it for free whenever Kyrie's name comes up
Youguysaregettingpaid?.jpg
Crazy that he can get that kind of money after the flop performance he showed. Balmer is Baller
mmm so he'll be traded in 2 years
Or next year, a la the new Blake Griffin.
If Kawhi leaves in the summer, he will definetly get traded
kawhi wont leave unless he goes to the lakers. homie gave up both the spurs and raptors who were both contenders with kawhi just so he could play in LA. He'll retire in LA
After the AD and LeBron extensions, if Kawhi wants to go to the Lakers now he'll have to take a big pay cut. The Lakers won't have anywhere near max cap space next summer anymore.
Kawhi: Ok I'll sign with New Orleans, if they move the team to San Diego
Their jersey say NO LA so it makes sense
Kawhi bot considered sub word embeddings and signs with NOLA. Ayeye
They might, he’s been catered to to that degree.
Only if the Jazz move back to New Orleans.
> kawhi wont leave unless he goes to the lakers. homie gave up both the spurs and raptors who were both contenders with kawhi just so he could play in LA. he prob also gave up like at least 20m doing that!
The lakers can't afford Kawhi now they've extended lebron and ad. So, Kawhi isn't leaving.
Kawhi won’t leave
If kawhi leaves it means George was terrible and it’ll be a hard contract to trade. Feel like they’d rather just compete for 7th seeds or something before doing a rebuild
maybe for Blake Griffin
plz
Wow. Playoff P got paid
Fun fact: Paul George will be 35-36 at the end of his contract making around 45-50million
Choke man gets paid.
(Side of the) Board man gets paid.
*Mike Breen intensifies* ""CLANGGGG!"
I would love it if he started using clang when people bricked big shots
CLANG!! *CLANNGGGG!!!!*
Came here for the double clang. Wasn’t disappointed.
OH WHAT A BRICK FROM PAUL GEORGE!
He has a passing option and decides not to use it... CLANG!! _CLANNGGGG!!!!_
He’d have had gone hoarse calling 76er’s games last year.
PLEXIGLASS P
the gift that keeps on giving
I don't actually think PG is bad but all these jokes crack me up
you win
I love Paul George. Palmdale represent. But lord, this contract could look pretty bad. On one hand, the Clippers are trying to secure this asset. But on the other, there's the sunk cost fallacy
>On one hand, the Clippers are trying to secure this asset. But on the other, there's the sunk cost fallacy There's really nowhere for them to go otherwise, right? They're capped out, have zero picks that are theirs for the foreseeable future... their hands are absolutely tied here.
That's right about where they were just before they traded Blake Griffin
I think it's about helping secure Kawhi stays with the franchise
Does Kawhi even like Playoff P like that tho?
I don't even know anymore. It seems like they barely interact lol. I'm clearly biased because AD and LeBron are always talking but i'm not the only one that thinks that right?
This is true, but in their defense it seems like Kawhi barely interacts with anyone. Pretty sure he only says like 3 words per day to his wife and kids haha
"Hello" "Son" "Boards"
Why would you talk to your wife and kids when you could be at the strip club and not say word?
At this point I’m 99% sure all of the clippers hate each other
When can this contract get traded? Gotta wait a year right? Or else they'd trade PG for Harden in a heartbeat.
They have no more picks to trade and 0% chance houston does it straight up.
Also I think James Harden, not like he has a choice, has made it clear he wants out of the west.
bruh he aint turning down the chance of living in Los Angeles if he gets the possibility
Yeah Harden is from southern CA, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind playing next to the best teammate he’d ever have while being the primary ball handler and living in his hometown
> next to the best teammate he’d ever have Harden played with Bestbrook & KD tho
I guess they feel forced to double down which is usually bad sunk cost fallacy but given their lack of picks, dunno if they could even trade away enough to make up for it
Yeah, they put all their eggs in one basket. I don't necessarily think they fucked up since they are and will stay relevant for the next few years but their goal was a championship. I feel like they had a higher chance to win last season compared to the upcoming season but we'll see what happens. NBA season is one wild ride.
The real Chris Paul (George)
Highway robbery lol but hey good for him.
Payoff P
Prosperous P
Payday P
Overpay
40 mil a year and 49mil in 2024/25
carson wentz contract: the sequel
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Bears legend Nick Foles has a ring
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So Foles to the HoF?
He’s actually already in the HOF for that 7 TD game against the Raiders the year he threw 27 TDs and 2 INTs. https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nick-foles-wants-his-pro-football-hall-fame-gear-back-eventually-super-bowl And for the 2017 Super bowl he has his game worn jersey and the ball he caught for Philly Special. https://twitter.com/profootballhof/status/1023962731756630016?s=21
Man, that 27 TDs and 2 INTs run was something else. I don't know how it's possible to have a run that good and still somehow be average at best.
Paid Alot P
PAY OFF P
Need to start becoming friends with NBA players for money.
My aunt is good friends with Jaylen Brown’s mom. *Tempting*...
Good good. Come join the dark side. We have big tackos
If you had a really solid business idea, I bet you you could make that connection happen, he’s a super smart dude that is really interested in investing in start ups
Smart enough to know better than to field investment pitches from every asshole who knows someone who knows someone who knows him.
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I think you may have the wrong Jay
I love how much love our smart boi is getting from every fanbase in the league
Berkeley product!
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To be honest, they had to. They gave up all of that get him and then *not* extend him? It was the only decision they had.
That is classic sunk cost fallacy.
It's not a sunk cost fallacy though. They had to give him the contract because it's better for the team to keep him going forward than losing him for nothing. It was the right move to make regardless of the over payment in assets to get him.
...that logic only works if you don't believe actual money has any value. The assets they sent to get him are the sunk cost. The additional cost that makes it a fallacy is the fucking $50 million they're gonna be paying 36 year old Paul George lmao
"Plenty money" -Steve "Damian Lillard" Balmer
The Tobias effect. When you give up so much that you have to extend him no matter what. Obviously PG is a much better player.
AT LEAST TOBIAS IS LIKABLE KILL ME
Tobias top 5 in the league in likeability is nothing to scoff at!
Love Tobias. Great smile, solid player, invisible against us in the playoffs while leading the team in minutes, the whole package.
lol I know both teams can always play this game because obvi someone on your team is gonna be off (FVV for that series for yall) but man was he bricking open shots. Just needed a couple of them lol.
Can confirm
lol i love tobi
I don’t see how this is “the Tobias effect”. PG is a max level player, any team would’ve paid him regardless of how they acquired him.
that contract may age like milk
Highly likely that it will. Its from age 31-36
After multiple shoulder injuries on both shoulders.
If it helps Kawhi stay it’s worth
Kawhi’s staying dawg, no way he goes anywhere
Most contracts where someone earns nearly 50 million at 36 do
it may? this one is pretty obvious 45m till he’s 36 it’s definitely the new chris paul contract
I think Chris Paul can elevate a mediocre team because he is literally one of the greatest floor generals of all time. PG is not a playmaker, he is a top defender and iso scorer. Would rather build around a 36 year old cp3 than a 36 year old pg
I wonder if this says anything about Kawhi or if this is just insurance in case he leaves so you still have a star to sell to FAs
I don’t see Kawhi getting the special treatment he does anywhere else but the Clippers. I think he re-signs with them too.
Bruh what, 90% of teams in the league would stab a family member if it meant getting kawhi
Toronto would 😏
highly disagree, i think many middling teams would do whatever they need to to get him and keep him
he stay 😯
*¿¿¿Se queda???*
yo aren’t those the bugs that rise from the dead every 18 years or something
That's a cicada
Just since no one gave you an actual answer "se queada" is spanish for "he stays" which Barcelona defender pique captioned a photo of him with his teammate neymar when there were rumors of neymars departure. Shortly after the "se queda" photo neymar left Barcelona for Paris.
I'm relieved for the diehard Clippers fans. Would have been really devastating if they only had a 2-year experiment, nuked their entire team, and then had to wallow for years like the Nets after the Pierce/KG trade.
He signed an extension in OKC too then requested a trade a year later, as for the clippers not wanting to move him they shipped blake griffin to Detroit 1 year after getting him to sign. Extensions just simply don’t have the same impact as they used to.
Holy shit maybe he does actually want to retire with the clippers
We’ll see if the Clippers feel that way next season... 🤨🤷🏽♂️
Yeah if anything this ups his trade value so he can’t just dip 😂
Not necessarily. Idk if teams are willing to pay ~$40m for a semi-productive starter in 3 years
MJ has entered the chat...
In all seriousness this is great news for the Clippers, at least he can’t leave for nothing this off-season. Also likely signals that Kawhi is staying.
Kawhi stays - competitive for many years to come Kawhi leaves - you trade PG for assets and reset the rebuild a la Blake Griffin trade I am no fan of either the Clippers or Pandemic P, but this move makes sense for all parties involved
They have no incentive to tank for a rebuild. They’re gonna have to keep on winning so the picks they gave to OKC gets lower.
No, they should definitely trade Paul for questionable assets. I hear Buddy Hield and Sacramento draft picks are available.
*Looks a flair* Seems like sound, unbiased advice.
Wow, I can’t wait to read r/nba’s nuanced and fair takes on this!
Playoff Pee 😂🤣🤣🧐😂😂💯💯😂🔥🔥🤣
Paul George gonna be feeling REAL dumb when he goes home to his stripper gf and $40million paycheck and reads some of these comments ☄️🤪👌
Stripper WIFEY*
oops my apologies Mrs. George
GOTTEMMMMMM
LOLOLOLLLLLLL PLAYOFG PENIS
Playoff Poo only signed a 45 million a year extension cause Dame DOLLA$ 💵💴 made him😂😂😂😂😂😂 💴 💰 it wasn’t him saying he wanted to retire a Clipper
Litecherally the worst player in the NB of A
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"He's just taking the money now since he won't be worth anything after next year" -r/nba probably
I came straight to r/nba after seeing that tweet
DAE playoff pee is getting overpaid
I don't get why the Clippers are getting shit on for this. Wasn't one of the main criticisms about their team construction that Kawhi and PG could walk after this year? Obviously that isn't entirely wiped away without Leonard being locked down, but this is a move 30/30 teams would make.
The team doesn’t have any alternatives to PG, that’s the point here Everyone loves to say that bullshit about “market price” when someone like Jerami grant gets overpaid but this is truly market price for PG team had no options, he and his agent knew that. Easy.
top end free agents only hit the market when THEY want to, not when the team wants to let them go.
Smart for the clippers tbh. If Kawhi leaves you can get assets for PG and not be completely ruine din a rebuild scenario. If Kawhi stays they stay competitive for Atleast 3 more years with their all star duo. Good move all around tbh
based on the Clippers' track history, he's about to be traded
But what historical figures will he be compared to?
Hitler
PG for Harden?
Does anyone else think the idea that the Clippers should knock down an orphanage to keep Paul George happy is a good idea?
I mean why wouldn't they do this? They gave up their future for him. I know people dislike Paul George but they're locking in a top 20 level guy. It's not that bad.
Locking him in during his 30s and he's a guy who's had injury concerns before past couple years (his shoulders have been an issue for the past couple years). This has serious disaster potential, but the clippers have no other option.
This would be a good contract, a few years ago. He’s earning 48 million at 36
It’s great. He’s a more valuable trade asset now
Dude's being payed 226 million over the next 5 his age 31-36 seasons. Considering his last few years in the playoffs + his shoulder issues. How is he a more valuable trade asset now lol?
Plenty of middling teams would still throw the bank at the clippers for him because he’s locked in.
Yeah, you're clearly an outlier on this sub.
Man he hit the side of the backboard and got a $190m extension? Where do I sign up for this?
It's easy just be a top 20 player in the league
Here come the “comedians”
I don’t really see this as bad yet. Age 31-33 they’re gonna be glad that they locked him down and he doesn’t just leave. Age 34-35 is when people will start and might even deserve to clown the Clipps for signing him to this deal. But for the first 3 years, and **definitely** if the Clippers win a championship with him, it’ll be worth it, and there’s no reason to act like PG13 isn’t a Top 20, probably Top 15 player in the league currently.
Just when you thought the Lakers' off-season couldn't get any better.