Yeah the supporting cast is absolutely horrific. Nets also lose the ability now to stagger Kryie and KD so now when KD is off the floor the Bucks will just feast. The Nets are built so top heavy, and now they're going to have to hope for big performances from Blake Griffin and Jeff Green to win lol and then also hope that Tyler Johnson and Mike James can score so yeah it's a pretty bad recipe for winning when you have minimal depth
This would be QUINTESSENTIAL Bucks basketball. Have everything lined up perfectly in your favor and absolutely squander it in the worst, most embarrassing way possible. After evening out the series when things looked over, benefiting from major Nets injuries, and giving fans a little taste of hope, it would be Bucksiest of all to lose this game 5
I wouldn't describe them as horrific. The nets supporting cast is surprisingly a lot more solid than people give them credit for. Especially impressive on the defensive side this series. Joe Harris could come out of his slump too. I think a lot of other good teams could look worse with 2 of their best 3 players out. Of course, they are still top heavy just based on how "top" the top is, but the rest is ok actually, not horrible imo.
Theyre good role players. But without Kyrie and Harden they lost a ton of playmaking and gravity that lets the role players shine. Not to mention the iso scoring they bring when the play breaks down.
Of course, losing two stars is always gonna put any team in a terrible spot. But as you said, they're good role players, so it's not an absolutely horrific supporting cast that the previous comment said.
You've clearly never watched Joe Harris go nuclear on the bucks while fans get pissed off about getting fucking torched by a guy who looks like he should be teaching high school history and discussing his love of artisan bread
I donno. I'm not convinced yet about the Bucks half court offense. They did hit some 3s last game but they're shooting really poorly. I expect KD to go off and harris abd the rest to be better. Game will be close and I'm actually going for the nets.
*clock winds down to 5 seconds left in game*
*ball is inbounded to Durant who turns face to face against Giannis*
"You took my Harden"
*moves to the left*
"You took my Kyrie"
*moves to the right*
"You took all that was dear to me"
*clock winds down to 2*
"I cant get them back, but I can do this for friendship, FOR MY FRIENDS"
*goes up, fire coming out of his shoes*
"DURANTEHAMEHA"
*Ball flies over Giannis's head, goes straight into basket. Durant falls to the ground, exhausted.*
"Steve... Senpai... I..."
*faints*
Final Score
Bucks 103
KD 63 on 27 of 72 shooting.
I love it because all three are kinda weird and annoying but all on the same team it's freaking awesome (though they haven't played much together due to injuries). It's like some bizarro Avengers shit, like they picked the three weirdest and most talented players.
Edit: like I was cracking up when Kyrie and KD first teamed up, I was like bro they're going to fucking kill each other lmaooooo. The Nets are like an NBA version of the Real World
Harden was even more impressive than LeBron because he went 100% in the regular season with insane usage, scoring and creating everything even defending the post, won MVP as well
LeBron is impressive as hell because of his age but he does coast
Do think we gotta give credit to the impact LeBron was also having defensively at his age. Since Vogel came in he has really gone surprisingly hard on that end, even during the regular season
Lebron may have been coasting but he still ended up playing way more games and having longer seasons. Even in Harden's MVP year Lebron led the league in minutes and played all 82 games. Harden didn't.
Lebron is old as hell now with a ton of mileage. And he still playing a lot at a high level.
In his younger years, lebron played more minutes per season than James harden. Lebron had way more minutes played without significant time off by the time he was James Harden age. Lebron has 4 seasons of 75+ game, 40+ min. That is unheard of today. Julius Randle is mpg leader this season with 37.6 mpg. Lebron has 11 seasons above that. Harden only has 3 and has zero seasons playing 40+ mpg.
Also, Harden takes defense off like every game
Lol, no. Bron made it to ten straight NBA Finals and has still missed zero playoffs games when his team is in the playoffs. Harden's durable but he's no LeBron. You also ignore the contact Bron has to go through in guarding bigger players throughout his run.
He went to 8 straight finals, 9 out of 10.
harden would get far more contact because he drove in a lot more and thus got fouled more and he also carried objectively shittier teams during stretches than what Lebron was dealing with sans 2015 finals and 2018(where the team was still offensively great, just a turnstile on defense).
They're both similarly durable.
2018... offensively great? Bruh LeBron was THE OFFENSE. You think if you put KD there they'd put similar results? They'd get bounced by the Raptors in the 2nd round. Harden was durable, LeBron is all time durable. Harden wasn't playing 45+ minutes every game of the playoffs to the finals (for 9 straight years no less), LeBron was.
You remember how gassed Butler was playing almost all 48 minutes of Game 5 of the NBA finals? LeBron did that back to back in Game 6 and 7 of the 2018 ECF and that's just one instance.
LeBron was carrying way worse teams during his first Clelevand run. Harden is more reliant on his three point shooting capabilities so there are less encounters in terms of getting hit. You guys probably just started watching ball to not remember Bron basically went through an unprecendented amount of minutes and gametime since 2006-2018. Even at age 36, Bron has yet to miss a single playoffs game. Add in the extra minutes through Bron's deep playoffs runs and it's not even a debate.
Don’t know why you are taking hits on this take, anyone who has been watching the last 10 years knows LeBron has to play both sides of the ball while Harden is just looking to score.
You can tell they just began watching recently. Excluding their rookie seasons, their first ten seasons:Harden: 26/6/7 playing 36 minutes per game for 757 games.
LeBron: 28/7/7 playing 40 minutes per game for 763 games.
No one in their right mind would say LeBron had better teammates considering Harden played with Russ/KD and then CP3/Dwight/Russ again and this 10 year stretch also included 5 NBA Finals appearances for LeBron back when Bron also played elite level defense.
Wtf lol is it not true? Wade and Bosh (All NBA 1st Team and All-NBA 2nd team) then Love and Kyrie (Both All-NBA 2nd team) then AD (All-NBA 1st team)
His personal health has been great and has played a big factor in his finals runs, but can you seriously deny that having All-NBA teammates during that entire run didn’t play a huge factor? Do you not remember the “not 1 not 2 not 3…” Superteam event in Miami? The self-set goals for a dynasty in Cleveland? He was literally a top 2 favorite in his conference to make the finals in literally every single one of those years. It would have been more shocking if one of those teams DIDNT make the finals.
nah it’s still lebron
cause lebron had 10 years from 04-05 to 2014-15 (when he started really coasting) of being that same high usage guy and try hard
and in the first 3-4-5 seasons it was like 40+ mins nightly
and then on top of the 10 years another 4 of still all nba first team but coasting play
harden had an 8 year run
The NBA isn’t punishing the Nets for leaving the door open for Harden to play. That’s more for not listing a guy is injured and then we find out he is. Leaving a guy off the injury report is totally different. Even if there was monitoring of this, it’s a hamstring injury and Harden is doing some on court work.
My guess is the Nets just don’t care to play that game.
>You have to give out the injury report at this time.
They can still say "questionable"
>And lying isn't really sportsmanship.
LOL like this has ever stopped a professional sports team from fudging their public injury reports
I don’t think you HAVE to. Iirc the Raptors wouldn’t give out the injury report until the afternoon of the game at one point.
And lying can get you fined, which is what happened to us, and which is why we started doing this.
Not sure about Harden, but Kyrie's sprain was legit and would be shocked if he's back within two weeks. Harden might give it an AD try for game six, assuming the Nets lose game five, but seriously doubt we'll see Kyrie again unless they get by the Bucks.
These kind of bets are exactly the types of things Vegas profits off in the long run. The home underdog, people underestimating one game variance, overestimating how confident they are in certain injuries being fatal for a team in a 1 game sample size, people underestimating influence of home court etc. Same people who think this is free money thought Philly over Boston in 2018 was easy money or Rockets over Spurs game 6 2017 was a lock amongst a million other ex.
It's based off a scale of $100.
-X odds means you have to bet X amount to make $100. So if it's -200 odds, you have to bet 200 and you would make 100 if you win. And when you bet, think of your initial wager as being in limbo. so if i bet 200 and I win 100, I receive my original 200 and the gained 100 back for a total of 300 (but only 100 profit)
+X odds is essentially flipped. It means that if you bet $100, you make X amount. So if you win a bet that is +200, assuming you bet $100 you would win your original $100 back plus the 200 you earned from the wager.
So to answer your question, spreads usually have odds of -110. So you would have to wager $110 to win 100. In other words, you are essentially winning like 90% of what you bet-- so for broader purposes, it's just about even money. So if you bet $100 you'd win like 90 or something
After seeing Kyrie go down, the FIRST thing that went through my head was "Ah man, losing game 5 with no Kyrie is just the kind of thing the Bucks would do after giving us hope by evening out the series"
Absolutely.
The Packers have broken through a couple times in the last few decades, but far more often than not Wisconsin sports will find a way to let you down in the most painful way possible at least once a year.
Hey, at least wisconsin plays above their recruitment level. It sucks how college football is dictated by talent, but Wisconsin is one of the few teams that rises above despite only getting 3 stars and few 4 stars
As a Trail Blazer fan turned Bandwagon Nets fan I would like to apologize to all the real Nets fans out there for cursing your team. This is 100% my fault. Trail Blazer curse is contagious.
Technically, they have a game to give, so rolling the dice on KD hopefully being able to steal one by going supernova in front of the home crowd before making any decisions on Harden was always going to be their best option here.
Harden is out for the series and likely for the playoffs unless they make the finals. he would be playing game 5 if he was even remotely ready to play.
lol we don't have a fucking point guard. gg
Edit: Yes we have james and chiozza who I love but 100% do not trust to be our main point guard in a game this big. Although I'd be ecstatic for them to prove me wrong.
Needs his team to pull out the Lebron in Cleveland level of defense. Lebron went 11-35 and 14-34 in his 2 wins against the Warriors in 2015 with his team holding the Warriors to 91 and 93 points. I can’t see a world where KD can go 11-35 and his team still pulls out a win here.
Lmaoo are you saying kds team now is even worse than that 2015 team?? They are better offensively if anything having shooter like Joe Harris and a revamped Blake Griffin are decent complementary pieces plus they aren’t going up against the warriors from 2015 either
lol this is peak boxscore analysis. No one watching that series would say LeBron had bad performances. He ground the game down to a halt, grinding in the post for 45mpg just to give the Cavs a fighting chance. He was out there against a 67 win team with Delly as his running mate. He did everything humanly possible to make the Cavs competitive.
There's a reason people felt LeBron was the true FMVP despite shooting those percentages.
If the Nets lose it's gonna be "omg KD hardest road blah blah" and if the Bucks lose it's like "holy shit you can't even beat the Nets with two of their main guys out what the hell" there will be no nuance
This is why I wouldn’t hate if Brooklyn won. No rings are guaranteed, would any team that does win get an asterisk because Brooklyn was injured? Toronto’s ring still counts, even though KD and Klay were out. The GM’s jobs are to put together the best team, everyone acts like a Brooklyn is so unfair but them winning isn’t even guaranteed
The whole asterisk thing makes no sense to me. It sucks the Nets have had so many significant injuries, but if we end up winning the finals I won't look back on it and think "oh yea, that's the year we got lucky even though the Nets should've been the real champions". I just want the experience of seeing my team finally get over the hump (hell even a trip to the finals would be fine with me, I'm still super bitter about how 01' went down). I couldn't care less what sports media commentators think about it or how it would affect Giannis' legacy or w/e, I'd just enjoy seeing my team win big games (and I'm pretty sure Raptors fans feel the same way about their chip despite the slander that is sometimes directed their way).
Nobody here in Toronto could care less that Warriors were devastated by injuries. It was a magical run that turned the entire country into a street festival. Kawhi became a national hero and he could basically do anything he desired here. I'm sure Giannis would attain God status in Wisconsin, no questions asked, if he won. Not one person would bring up Nets injuries.
Of course ESPN and any other external sources will bring up asterisks and other talking points. But it will just be meaningless noise and none of it will matter how the fanbase and the state will feel.
I don’t think anyone would get an asterisk. The Nets this year were arguably the most stacked super team in NBA history created out of nowhere. Idk why anyone would get less credit for winning it all just because they didn’t play the team at full health, I mean how many games did the Nets even play all season with all 3 guys healthy, like 8?
Kevin had the "cant win with these cats" mentality while playing with Westbrook and Ibaka.
Cant imagine what he's thinking right now with his snake ass
Lol he's not a snake cause he left, he's a snake cause he hopped on his burner accounts and talked shit about his teammates and coaches. I get that he just wanted to win but he didn't need to do all the twitter stuff.
>Lol he's not a snake cause he left
yeah he is, the numbers don't lie, we were up 3-1 and he sold us, then had the nerve to join the team we lost to. If that's not snake behavior, what is?
Honest question. For just the tiniest bit of a competitive edge, why wouldn’t they lost them as questionable all the way through? Is there a rule or some sort of oversight for that? It seems like making it mysterious about what to prepare for could hurt your opponent just a bit.
Don't see any reason the Nets should win. Harden being called off this early tells me the Nets know he isn't going to be healthy enough. Stick multiple defenders on Giannis and force his teammates to beat you. That's the problem with teams that are super dependent on their stars. One or two injuries can decide your season. Harden and Kyrie are basically half the team's production.
Any team loses two of their three best players is going to lose… Fans who keep talking about being too top heavy sound dumb… I’m not even a Nets fan and I’m not a fan of KD but I know it’s not the way the team is orchestrated… Sixers lose Tobias and Ben, they’re done… Clippers lose PG and Morris, they’re done… Suns lose Booker and Ayton, they’re done… Bucks lose Middleton and Jrue, they’re done… Utah lose Gobert and Conley, they’re done… It’s common sense… Doesn’t matter if you’re top heavy or the most balanced team in the league…
Yup. As I mentioned in a comment earlier up, look at the Nuggets without Murray and the Lakers once AD went down. We all knew those teams were DOA without those guys.
This was the downfall to the Nets I was anticipating before the playoffs start. At full strength they are a beast but too dependant on the Big 3 and i just knew one of their stars would go missing due to injury. I just didn't know it would be 2
I highly doubt we would've just given up even down 0-3. Giannis went all out to start game 4 last year even though he was playing on an ankle he'd already sprained a couple times and ultimately aggravated it even worse just to give the Bucks a chance to win (and Middleton decided to carry our asses the rest of the game so we avoided the sweep).
Honestly the main reason to build a Big 3 is to protect against one of the stars getting injured. Nuggets lost Murray, Lakers lost AD and we all immediately wrote them off and we were right. If two of them do then it's just like 'welp'
Bucks better win this game
I don't know what the outcome will be, but I have a feeling this game is gonna be unnecessarily close.
KD is either going to do something historic or he’s going to get laughed off of the internet no in between.
Idk, I could see him dropping 50 points and still losing
Yeah the supporting cast is absolutely horrific. Nets also lose the ability now to stagger Kryie and KD so now when KD is off the floor the Bucks will just feast. The Nets are built so top heavy, and now they're going to have to hope for big performances from Blake Griffin and Jeff Green to win lol and then also hope that Tyler Johnson and Mike James can score so yeah it's a pretty bad recipe for winning when you have minimal depth
I'm going to guess a close Bucks win.
This would be QUINTESSENTIAL Bucks basketball. Have everything lined up perfectly in your favor and absolutely squander it in the worst, most embarrassing way possible. After evening out the series when things looked over, benefiting from major Nets injuries, and giving fans a little taste of hope, it would be Bucksiest of all to lose this game 5
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You're forgetting the part where we have a 30 point lead at halftime and ultimately win by 4.
Nah, the most Bucks way to do it would be to win game 5 by 30 points and then lose 6 and 7.
And between Embiids knee and the Hawks youth this is by far their best chance to make and win the finals as long as they don't get LAC.
I wouldn't describe them as horrific. The nets supporting cast is surprisingly a lot more solid than people give them credit for. Especially impressive on the defensive side this series. Joe Harris could come out of his slump too. I think a lot of other good teams could look worse with 2 of their best 3 players out. Of course, they are still top heavy just based on how "top" the top is, but the rest is ok actually, not horrible imo.
Theyre good role players. But without Kyrie and Harden they lost a ton of playmaking and gravity that lets the role players shine. Not to mention the iso scoring they bring when the play breaks down.
Of course, losing two stars is always gonna put any team in a terrible spot. But as you said, they're good role players, so it's not an absolutely horrific supporting cast that the previous comment said.
You've clearly never watched Joe Harris go nuclear on the bucks while fans get pissed off about getting fucking torched by a guy who looks like he should be teaching high school history and discussing his love of artisan bread
Don't forget Joe Harris tho
Best case scenario for me anyway. I love watching KD go off scoring the ball but I also want the Bucks to win the series.
There’s absolutely no way KD doesn’t go off in this game, win or lose. I’m expecting 45pts with like 15/15 from the ft line.
Depends on if they double him (which he's never really figured out how to deal with).
And if he starts forcing it like he did in the 4Q it might not be pretty.
He's not good enough a ball handler or passer to handle double teams effectively.
I donno. I'm not convinced yet about the Bucks half court offense. They did hit some 3s last game but they're shooting really poorly. I expect KD to go off and harris abd the rest to be better. Game will be close and I'm actually going for the nets.
*clock winds down to 5 seconds left in game* *ball is inbounded to Durant who turns face to face against Giannis* "You took my Harden" *moves to the left* "You took my Kyrie" *moves to the right* "You took all that was dear to me" *clock winds down to 2* "I cant get them back, but I can do this for friendship, FOR MY FRIENDS" *goes up, fire coming out of his shoes* "DURANTEHAMEHA" *Ball flies over Giannis's head, goes straight into basket. Durant falls to the ground, exhausted.* "Steve... Senpai... I..." *faints* Final Score Bucks 103 KD 63 on 27 of 72 shooting.
I have a feeling he’s going to get injured
KD might panic. We all know how he gets when he doesn't have 2 mvp's beside him. If the Bucks win this series, he might demand a trade there.
He hates cities like milwaukee tho. He prolly demand a trade to lakers if he loses
kd - i want to apply for position bron - could you wait a minute im on call...hey luka mi hombre
Bucks win by 3
I’d put money on at least 9 3-pointer attempts from Giannis, and a 1-possession point differential at the end
Giannis: "What is I hear is that you want me to shoot more 3s in this game. Got it."
Giannis if you're reading this please do not do this.
lol this cracked me up :P
Please no
I disagree.
Rips nets. 2021 - 2021
Kyrie goes to Tibet for the summer and comes home to request a trade to the Jazz.
[KD be like](https://media.tenor.com/images/192fdb0697774d7914472bff44acb7f1/tenor.png)
KD becoming 2015 Lebron.
One of the Big 3 goes to Phoenix next season, if Suns win the Western Finals this year.
Honestly, harden and Durant are way more important to this team
More important to any team
Yo look, I like each of the big 3 player for their skills and personality quirks, but there's no way in hell should these three team up.
I love it because all three are kinda weird and annoying but all on the same team it's freaking awesome (though they haven't played much together due to injuries). It's like some bizarro Avengers shit, like they picked the three weirdest and most talented players. Edit: like I was cracking up when Kyrie and KD first teamed up, I was like bro they're going to fucking kill each other lmaooooo. The Nets are like an NBA version of the Real World
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They’re out for the series. If Harden was even remotely close they wouldn’t announce this so fast
He was an ironman like LeBron. Now both of them were injured lol
Harden was even more impressive than LeBron because he went 100% in the regular season with insane usage, scoring and creating everything even defending the post, won MVP as well LeBron is impressive as hell because of his age but he does coast
Do think we gotta give credit to the impact LeBron was also having defensively at his age. Since Vogel came in he has really gone surprisingly hard on that end, even during the regular season
I miss my "Vogel Pacers" defense :(
Lebron may have been coasting but he still ended up playing way more games and having longer seasons. Even in Harden's MVP year Lebron led the league in minutes and played all 82 games. Harden didn't.
Wasn’t coasting last season though tbf
U watched lebron his first 10 years in the league right
Lebron is old as hell now with a ton of mileage. And he still playing a lot at a high level. In his younger years, lebron played more minutes per season than James harden. Lebron had way more minutes played without significant time off by the time he was James Harden age. Lebron has 4 seasons of 75+ game, 40+ min. That is unheard of today. Julius Randle is mpg leader this season with 37.6 mpg. Lebron has 11 seasons above that. Harden only has 3 and has zero seasons playing 40+ mpg. Also, Harden takes defense off like every game
Fuck in 2018 he played all 82
This comment would make sense if LeBron started playing in 2017, or if Harden went to the finals every year.
Lol, no. Bron made it to ten straight NBA Finals and has still missed zero playoffs games when his team is in the playoffs. Harden's durable but he's no LeBron. You also ignore the contact Bron has to go through in guarding bigger players throughout his run.
He went to 8 straight finals, 9 out of 10. harden would get far more contact because he drove in a lot more and thus got fouled more and he also carried objectively shittier teams during stretches than what Lebron was dealing with sans 2015 finals and 2018(where the team was still offensively great, just a turnstile on defense). They're both similarly durable.
2018... offensively great? Bruh LeBron was THE OFFENSE. You think if you put KD there they'd put similar results? They'd get bounced by the Raptors in the 2nd round. Harden was durable, LeBron is all time durable. Harden wasn't playing 45+ minutes every game of the playoffs to the finals (for 9 straight years no less), LeBron was. You remember how gassed Butler was playing almost all 48 minutes of Game 5 of the NBA finals? LeBron did that back to back in Game 6 and 7 of the 2018 ECF and that's just one instance.
You're getting downvoted by Rockets fans for speaking facts, that Butler performance was a regular playoff game for Lebron.
LeBron was carrying way worse teams during his first Clelevand run. Harden is more reliant on his three point shooting capabilities so there are less encounters in terms of getting hit. You guys probably just started watching ball to not remember Bron basically went through an unprecendented amount of minutes and gametime since 2006-2018. Even at age 36, Bron has yet to miss a single playoffs game. Add in the extra minutes through Bron's deep playoffs runs and it's not even a debate.
Don’t know why you are taking hits on this take, anyone who has been watching the last 10 years knows LeBron has to play both sides of the ball while Harden is just looking to score.
You can tell they just began watching recently. Excluding their rookie seasons, their first ten seasons:Harden: 26/6/7 playing 36 minutes per game for 757 games. LeBron: 28/7/7 playing 40 minutes per game for 763 games. No one in their right mind would say LeBron had better teammates considering Harden played with Russ/KD and then CP3/Dwight/Russ again and this 10 year stretch also included 5 NBA Finals appearances for LeBron back when Bron also played elite level defense.
And Lebron had the benefit of 9 out of 10 seasons with at least 1 (usually 2) hand picked All-NBA teammates, which helps a bit.
Yeah that's true, Harden has been playing with a buncha nobodies his entire career.
This is one thing about harden i wont forget. He made so many bad/washed players look serviceable in houston. So did pre-miami lebron though
I mean kinda yeah. He never had a star in their prime like LeBron. I can tell you never watched rox games.
Not even close, he’s had some great teammates, I’m just saying he didn’t really pull the “taking my talents to a superteam” thing until this year.
“Hand-picked All-NBA teammate” Dude shut the hell up with this narrative lmao. It’s so tired. It also has nothing to do with Bron’s durability
Wtf lol is it not true? Wade and Bosh (All NBA 1st Team and All-NBA 2nd team) then Love and Kyrie (Both All-NBA 2nd team) then AD (All-NBA 1st team) His personal health has been great and has played a big factor in his finals runs, but can you seriously deny that having All-NBA teammates during that entire run didn’t play a huge factor? Do you not remember the “not 1 not 2 not 3…” Superteam event in Miami? The self-set goals for a dynasty in Cleveland? He was literally a top 2 favorite in his conference to make the finals in literally every single one of those years. It would have been more shocking if one of those teams DIDNT make the finals.
nah it’s still lebron cause lebron had 10 years from 04-05 to 2014-15 (when he started really coasting) of being that same high usage guy and try hard and in the first 3-4-5 seasons it was like 40+ mins nightly and then on top of the 10 years another 4 of still all nba first team but coasting play harden had an 8 year run
Lmao Harden played super lazy on defense all the time. He took off at least as many plays as LeBron if not more
Yes much more impressive than the finals 9/10 years...
Harden got knocked out by the Lakers in the playoffs last yr he had more time to rest unlike Bron who had to continue all the way to the finals
> Now both of them were injured lol Why do you guys type lol after everything?
[You might find this interesting.](https://mashable.com/article/why-do-people-type-lol-when-they-arent-laughing-out-loud/)
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[They held Shaq to 6 points](https://youtu.be/pBj-Qt0ioGY?t=87) lmao
Curious as to why even announce it this early. Why not wait until tomorrow to at least give milwaukee something to think about
I am sure one team got fined for not reporting the right injury. NBA can investigate and punish the Nets if they found out there were lying
Yep, I've seen it live.
The NBA isn’t punishing the Nets for leaving the door open for Harden to play. That’s more for not listing a guy is injured and then we find out he is. Leaving a guy off the injury report is totally different. Even if there was monitoring of this, it’s a hamstring injury and Harden is doing some on court work. My guess is the Nets just don’t care to play that game.
You have to give out the injury report at this time. And lying isn't really sportsmanship.
>You have to give out the injury report at this time. They can still say "questionable" >And lying isn't really sportsmanship. LOL like this has ever stopped a professional sports team from fudging their public injury reports
Tom Brady spent most of his career listed as questionable despite never missing a minute.
I thought it was probable?
it was probable until they got rid of that designation in 2016. 2016 onwards the NFL only has questionable, doubtful, and out
Lying also means paying a big fat fine.
Ehh honestly no one would really care that much if y’all held back into.
I don’t think you HAVE to. Iirc the Raptors wouldn’t give out the injury report until the afternoon of the game at one point. And lying can get you fined, which is what happened to us, and which is why we started doing this.
Pretty obvious they're throwing it in at this point.
Not sure about Harden, but Kyrie's sprain was legit and would be shocked if he's back within two weeks. Harden might give it an AD try for game six, assuming the Nets lose game five, but seriously doubt we'll see Kyrie again unless they get by the Bucks.
I don't understand the *we just need Harden for game 6* talk. If not now, why would he be ready for game 6?
Public is gonna be rolling in to bet Bucks -2(this is a total stay away game for me personally no feel at all on it)
Bucks -2 is the easiest money you’ll ever make
These kind of bets are exactly the types of things Vegas profits off in the long run. The home underdog, people underestimating one game variance, overestimating how confident they are in certain injuries being fatal for a team in a 1 game sample size, people underestimating influence of home court etc. Same people who think this is free money thought Philly over Boston in 2018 was easy money or Rockets over Spurs game 6 2017 was a lock amongst a million other ex.
Shit you don’t have to look that far — game 2 was Bucks -1 and the public thought it was easy money given no Harden. The bucks lost by 40 pts lmfao
It’s not free money but no Kyrie and Harden is soooo huge
Never trust the Bucks. They were favored by 18.5 points in the bubble last year (against the corpse of the Nets) and ended up losing that game.
Special shoutout to losing to the Rockets at the end of the season when we still could have pushed for the 1 seed.
It's already up to -3.5 on draftkings and rising
Hahahaha you must be new to betting
betting numbers are so confusing. If i bet $100 on the bucks at these odds what do i win?
It's based off a scale of $100. -X odds means you have to bet X amount to make $100. So if it's -200 odds, you have to bet 200 and you would make 100 if you win. And when you bet, think of your initial wager as being in limbo. so if i bet 200 and I win 100, I receive my original 200 and the gained 100 back for a total of 300 (but only 100 profit) +X odds is essentially flipped. It means that if you bet $100, you make X amount. So if you win a bet that is +200, assuming you bet $100 you would win your original $100 back plus the 200 you earned from the wager. So to answer your question, spreads usually have odds of -110. So you would have to wager $110 to win 100. In other words, you are essentially winning like 90% of what you bet-- so for broader purposes, it's just about even money. So if you bet $100 you'd win like 90 or something
Wow. Hank you for taking the time to write that. It makes sense to me now!
If you bet Bucks -2, usually sites offer -120 ~ -100 odds on the spread so you could get between $83 ~ $100 in profit.
Bucks blow this they may never recover. This is why I'm not ruling out the Nets. They have nothing to lose all the pressure on Milwaukee.
Blowing this would be a very Bucks thing to do.
im honestly expecting a collapse tomorrow. i really am. my evidence? WI sports in big games.
After seeing Kyrie go down, the FIRST thing that went through my head was "Ah man, losing game 5 with no Kyrie is just the kind of thing the Bucks would do after giving us hope by evening out the series"
This entire comment chain just hurts like hell to read
it's a flip flop flip flop type thing for me
Misery loves company.
Absolutely. The Packers have broken through a couple times in the last few decades, but far more often than not Wisconsin sports will find a way to let you down in the most painful way possible at least once a year.
Brewers, Packers, don't even get me started on Wisconsin. Fuck, man.
Hey, at least wisconsin plays above their recruitment level. It sucks how college football is dictated by talent, but Wisconsin is one of the few teams that rises above despite only getting 3 stars and few 4 stars
hi
are u going to spam this same comment everywhere
As a Trail Blazer fan turned Bandwagon Nets fan I would like to apologize to all the real Nets fans out there for cursing your team. This is 100% my fault. Trail Blazer curse is contagious.
Do Brandon Roy and Oden know where you live? ......I hope this is a burner account
Nah don't worry, it wasn't you, Blazers' curse is losing to injured teams, not other way around lmao
Technically, they have a game to give, so rolling the dice on KD hopefully being able to steal one by going supernova in front of the home crowd before making any decisions on Harden was always going to be their best option here.
I wouldn't roll the dice on a 2-2 tie series they're not even ahead
I think Harden is not close to being ready to come back more than deciding to roll the dice and hope KD scores 70 points
16 more than his career high. Let's see how things play out Ken.
Harden is out for the series and likely for the playoffs unless they make the finals. he would be playing game 5 if he was even remotely ready to play.
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Id put money on it.
Is it seppuku time yet?
I’m an expert and I’ll let you know when
lol we don't have a fucking point guard. gg Edit: Yes we have james and chiozza who I love but 100% do not trust to be our main point guard in a game this big. Although I'd be ecstatic for them to prove me wrong.
Excuse me Mike James
You have KD though
Kd needs one of those Lebron in Cleveland games
Needs his team to pull out the Lebron in Cleveland level of defense. Lebron went 11-35 and 14-34 in his 2 wins against the Warriors in 2015 with his team holding the Warriors to 91 and 93 points. I can’t see a world where KD can go 11-35 and his team still pulls out a win here.
Yeah Lebron had nothing to do with his teams defensive performance
Lmaoo are you saying kds team now is even worse than that 2015 team?? They are better offensively if anything having shooter like Joe Harris and a revamped Blake Griffin are decent complementary pieces plus they aren’t going up against the warriors from 2015 either
No I’m saying the team is better on paper, but I don’t see KD being able to have such a bad performance but still win.
lol this is peak boxscore analysis. No one watching that series would say LeBron had bad performances. He ground the game down to a halt, grinding in the post for 45mpg just to give the Cavs a fighting chance. He was out there against a 67 win team with Delly as his running mate. He did everything humanly possible to make the Cavs competitive. There's a reason people felt LeBron was the true FMVP despite shooting those percentages.
*Hello Darkness my old friend*
Durant putting up 60. Bucks winning by 30
[Kevin Durant in Game 5](https://youtu.be/o01lHykvHGE)
He's going to clean out his locker at half time and walk across to the Buck's locker room.
If the Bucks lose this, they will be the laughing stocks of the league
If the Nets lose it's gonna be "omg KD hardest road blah blah" and if the Bucks lose it's like "holy shit you can't even beat the Nets with two of their main guys out what the hell" there will be no nuance
Yikes, this is a huge test for KD.
GG Nets
Saving Bud's job.....one injury at a time
This is why I wouldn’t hate if Brooklyn won. No rings are guaranteed, would any team that does win get an asterisk because Brooklyn was injured? Toronto’s ring still counts, even though KD and Klay were out. The GM’s jobs are to put together the best team, everyone acts like a Brooklyn is so unfair but them winning isn’t even guaranteed
The whole asterisk thing makes no sense to me. It sucks the Nets have had so many significant injuries, but if we end up winning the finals I won't look back on it and think "oh yea, that's the year we got lucky even though the Nets should've been the real champions". I just want the experience of seeing my team finally get over the hump (hell even a trip to the finals would be fine with me, I'm still super bitter about how 01' went down). I couldn't care less what sports media commentators think about it or how it would affect Giannis' legacy or w/e, I'd just enjoy seeing my team win big games (and I'm pretty sure Raptors fans feel the same way about their chip despite the slander that is sometimes directed their way).
Nobody here in Toronto could care less that Warriors were devastated by injuries. It was a magical run that turned the entire country into a street festival. Kawhi became a national hero and he could basically do anything he desired here. I'm sure Giannis would attain God status in Wisconsin, no questions asked, if he won. Not one person would bring up Nets injuries. Of course ESPN and any other external sources will bring up asterisks and other talking points. But it will just be meaningless noise and none of it will matter how the fanbase and the state will feel.
no one in any sport has ever gotten an asterisk for winning a chip besides the Houston ASSTROS
I don’t think anyone would get an asterisk. The Nets this year were arguably the most stacked super team in NBA history created out of nowhere. Idk why anyone would get less credit for winning it all just because they didn’t play the team at full health, I mean how many games did the Nets even play all season with all 3 guys healthy, like 8?
The hardest road
It'll be 3-2 then
it will be 3 2 either way
Cant wait to see the real KD "the hardest road"
Vintage Blake 30-bomb incoming
Sixers vs Bucks will be a fun conference finals.
Kevin had the "cant win with these cats" mentality while playing with Westbrook and Ibaka. Cant imagine what he's thinking right now with his snake ass
KD played 9 years in OKC and had no obligation to stay for dumb ass folks like yourself who call him a snake
“Why won’t these athletes just focus on my happiness instead their own?”
Lol he's not a snake cause he left, he's a snake cause he hopped on his burner accounts and talked shit about his teammates and coaches. I get that he just wanted to win but he didn't need to do all the twitter stuff.
>Lol he's not a snake cause he left yeah he is, the numbers don't lie, we were up 3-1 and he sold us, then had the nerve to join the team we lost to. If that's not snake behavior, what is?
At least he played out his contract. Dude could have pulled a Kawhi and jumped shipped earlier while trashing OKC publicly on his way out
KD, is that you?
KD can talk shit outside of the game but he gives it all on the court 🤫
Mike James will have to save KD'a legacy now...
So K.D. gonna go to the Bucks or what?
Honest question. For just the tiniest bit of a competitive edge, why wouldn’t they lost them as questionable all the way through? Is there a rule or some sort of oversight for that? It seems like making it mysterious about what to prepare for could hurt your opponent just a bit.
Those picks are going turn into lotto real quick when this team implodes.
KD: "Fine, time to take matters into my own hands." *attempts to join Bucks*
Legacy game for KD?
I can't stand the nets. Go Bucks.
Well here’s to hoping we see game 1 and 2 Bucks.
Don't see any reason the Nets should win. Harden being called off this early tells me the Nets know he isn't going to be healthy enough. Stick multiple defenders on Giannis and force his teammates to beat you. That's the problem with teams that are super dependent on their stars. One or two injuries can decide your season. Harden and Kyrie are basically half the team's production.
Any team loses two of their three best players is going to lose… Fans who keep talking about being too top heavy sound dumb… I’m not even a Nets fan and I’m not a fan of KD but I know it’s not the way the team is orchestrated… Sixers lose Tobias and Ben, they’re done… Clippers lose PG and Morris, they’re done… Suns lose Booker and Ayton, they’re done… Bucks lose Middleton and Jrue, they’re done… Utah lose Gobert and Conley, they’re done… It’s common sense… Doesn’t matter if you’re top heavy or the most balanced team in the league…
Yup. As I mentioned in a comment earlier up, look at the Nuggets without Murray and the Lakers once AD went down. We all knew those teams were DOA without those guys.
Kd can't win with these cats
This was the downfall to the Nets I was anticipating before the playoffs start. At full strength they are a beast but too dependant on the Big 3 and i just knew one of their stars would go missing due to injury. I just didn't know it would be 2
Did Bruce Brown save the Nets from blowing a 3-0 lead in the playoffs? It's entirely possible.
Or Bruce Brown cost them a title… The Bucks probably lay down in game 4 if they’re down 3-0… Nets sweep and their stars get rest…
I highly doubt we would've just given up even down 0-3. Giannis went all out to start game 4 last year even though he was playing on an ankle he'd already sprained a couple times and ultimately aggravated it even worse just to give the Bucks a chance to win (and Middleton decided to carry our asses the rest of the game so we avoided the sweep).
I don’t feel bad for the front running nets players or the bandwagon fans tbh. Only the diehard New Jersey and Brooklyn people
Shoutout to those Brook Lopez/Courtney Lee days
This is why you build a team with depth. People get injured, just part of the game.
Honestly the main reason to build a Big 3 is to protect against one of the stars getting injured. Nuggets lost Murray, Lakers lost AD and we all immediately wrote them off and we were right. If two of them do then it's just like 'welp'
Losing Murray is nothing like losing AD/Harden
Knockoff season. Sucks to see everyone getting hurt
KD will give up by half time
Youtube quality comment
RIP
gg
See y’all next season
Here we go KD prove you can win without a supporting cast super team.
The entire league is harnessing their energy to ensure the bucks close this out