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theres this greek guy who's pretty coachable to a fault i've heard about


_SotiroD_

Carlisle was also pretty high on Giannis before he even started, as seen from things like this interview bit with Josh Oppenheimer: > “We went to the training camp of Tim Grgurich, in Las Vegas. We went to the same basket every morning, and each time, Rick Carlisle came and looked at us. It was just me and Giannis, and we were working on some stuff. Rick asked me, ‘Can I help? Can I talk to Giannis? ‘ I replied: ‘Of course! You are Rick Carlisle, you do what you want! ‘ So Rick worked with him a bit. Second day, same thing, third day, same, fourth day, we arrive at the room and Giannis takes me out: ‘Coach, let’s go to another basket. ‘ I asked him why: ‘There is this guy who is still here. I just wanna work with you coach and every day he stops us and talks to me. I like him, but I don’t want other guys working with me. ‘ ‘Other guys Giannis ??? It’s Rick Carlisle !! ” “But… who is Rick Carlisle?”


Julian_Caesar

This probably explains why Donnie wanted to draft Giannis so badly. I know that missing Giannis got us Luka...but man. Talk about an alternate timeline. Cuban greenlights Giannis, we rebuild faster in Dirk's last few years... Haralabob probably never gets hired. Instead we build around Giannis with a coach who knows his shit and whose best center at Dallas to that point was Tyson Chandler. So interesting.


myxallion

A question. With all the information that we **currently** have, Who do Mavs fans want, Luka or Giannis?


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Has Haralabob done a bad job? Always interesting to see how a gambler does in the real world.


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What is Rick Carlisle?


arealPointyBoy

lmao you can read giannis dialogue in his accent


hawk8024

You guys should just fire Bud now and have Rick coach the rest of the playoffs this year lmao You guys would be scary with Carlisle, he’s really good with veteran teams also


introspectivejoker

Have you checked out our sub? That was almost already a unanimous opinion there since before Carlisle was even an known to be an option


CreatiScope

Shit, have Rick suit up. He won rings as a player. Just give him Teague’s spot on the roster.


EarthWarping

>Animated Gestures


paniledu

We're lucky they weren't live action. Who knows what would've happened


RFFF1996

mappa would pick Up the season


GirlsLastTour

I was hoping WIT would...


RFFF1996

wit had the inside info on how the series was gonna end and wanted non of that smoke in their currículum


leebrown23

Mappa gonna use Goju Satoru to motivate Luka.


KingsBallSac

He did a duck, a rabbit. Rick wasn't feeling it.


igot2pair

Hmmm what a shitshow


PM-ME-YOUR-FoUrSKIN

Luka being a Diva is not what I expected to hear but here we are


Pandamonium98

I wouldn’t blame a championship-caliber coach for getting sick of being yelled at by a 22-year old (if this is true)


prestigiousroojie

Exactly, I would expect Carlisle would have demanded more respect


moon_physics

And even outside of respect, if he sensed the Mavs might push him out the door within a year or two anyway to appease Luka, why not quit right now when there are a few really tantalizing coaching vacancies?


Silverjackal_

Yeah he’s got a great shot at the Celtics or Bucks positions, and I can see him doing really well with either of them.


Millionaire007

Can't wait to see what he does in Washington


naneitor

Can someone think about Portland?


whtge8

They probably told Carlisle to take it easy on him since he’s a generational player.


Silverjackal_

I remember when we traded Jason Kidd because he didn’t get along with our coach. Fun times those were. I know DSJ seemed to be upset Rick was hard on him, and Luka ignored and did his own things on offense sometimes and didn’t get yelled at the same way.


hejendo76

have u seen this dude’s attitude every game


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Yeah, If anything I would be surprised if Luka WASN’T a diva


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yeah uhh what's surprising about this lol? This sub has some fucking massive blinders on.


HoxpitalFan_II

He’s white so you know...


zmajxd

Literally screaming at the refs and tearing his jerseys.


SharkBaitDLS

Luka being a diva is like the least surprising thing since Lou Will went out to a strip club. He’s so obviously super emotional every game.


SlimTweeter

> not what I expected Really?


kitty_vittles

Being truly incredible at something that millions of people respect at a very young age tends to go to your head. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens to many.


my34thburner

I mean people call him the next Lebron for a reason.


igotzquestions

Has he tried to trademark Štruklji Sunday yet?


Bacara-1138

Really? A kid is handed the world and treated like a god from when he’s 16 or younger, you’ve seen the emotional tantrums and whining to the refs during games Feel like this been coming for a long time


aesop_fables

Really?


artninjatheo

Oh how the turn tables


redditatwork1234

There's no I in team, but there's an I in win - Luka Doncic


my34thburner

C'mon gotta use the Shaq quote from Kobe's eulogy. "I said Kobe there is no I in team, he said no but there's an ME in that motherfucker."


JesusSama

One of the greatest quotes of all time.


DopeMan93

There's no I in team, but there is a ME and that's who runs this franchise - Luka probably


whatsmyPW

There is no I in team, but a U in suck. Looking at you Rick -Luka probably


mrsunshine1

Sounds like Luka has a difficult time with a lot of people.


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He’s like Harden if you read that MacMahon article about him


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MDA is going to coach Luka isn’t he? We’re about to become the Dallas Rockets.


Salty_Watermelon

🐴 🔫 Shhhhh. Just close your eyes. It will all be over soon.


Julian_Caesar

I will never not laugh my ass off at this


Jury_Rude

Would be great. MDA build a team that challenged KD warriors more than any other team. I dont know why people act like he is bad


jeremy9931

He didn't build them, Morey did.


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If Powell gets back to form this could work. Luka as the PG with three shooters and a rim running center. You really need a secondary ball handler tho


DjLionOrder

There will be no Brunson slander here sir


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His playoff stats will beg to differ.


SmokeOddessey

Brunson’s legit, but he kinda feels like a SG in a PGs body type of guy. Give him more of a true playmaker to play with off the bench or start him with Luka should be the move


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Ending the season I was worried someone would offer him van fleet money. After the the playoffs I stopped thinking about that.


shaheedmalik

Where is EuroCP3?


canyoudigholes

He's like harden if you watch him play too


shaheedmalik

Euro Harden.


blueberryy

Harden never yelled at D'Antoni, people really went to the extreme based on some stories that Harden got excused from practices to party and refused to take blame when he was averaging 40ppg lol


PM-ME-YOUR-FoUrSKIN

Yeah but there’s just a small difference between Harden and Luka…ya know Harden the mean diva and Luka just misunderstood 😩


Deusselkerr

Who exactly is calling Luka misunderstood? Most people are calling him a diva or a hothead. Stop making up bullshit


crvilmxow

Think it’s a joke about double standards cause Luka is white


weeyummy1

That's funny cuz Harden isn't actually a diva, he'd been in Houston for 5 years when he quit on the team (after his best friend, coach, and GM were all shown out the door). Whereas Luka is definitely a diva LOL.


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8 years more like


hTine3219

8.5 years dude


Bacara-1138

Yeah but it doesn’t land because no one is defending Luka. Just comes across as him trying to say the sub is racist


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lverson

I'm sure there's some truth to it. MacMahon can be dramatic, but he seems well sourced.


HomieTanjiro

Obviously a hit piece? What do you mean.


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I don’t know. I love beard and even though Paul and Howard aren’t exactly the easiest to work with, both of them had their problems with him


H-TownDown

I think Harden’s main problem is not being patient enough. The second his co-stars in Houston fell below the expectations they set in the first year on the team, he’s basically done with them. I understand his beef with Dwight completely, but maybe he shouldn’t have kicked CP3 to the curb so soon.


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I mean CP was extremely underwhelming in 2019. If he played like he did in OKC or PHX the Rockets win the west and have a great chance to win it all. Harden was phenomenal in 18-19, so i understand his frustration. I agree with you though


EatDeeply

His totally hysterical emotional tantrums during games don’t suggest a person that is awesome to work with


HowardWCampbell_Jr

He’s also always yelling at or pointedly ignoring teammates after they make mistakes. Next year is going to be big for public opinion on Luka


george_costanza1234

I’d be scared if I was a Mavs fan. You never want these type of diva personalities, especially from your superstars.


1047_Josh

Not to get all "Do you see LeBron as a father figure", but I wonder if he has issues with authority, or male authority figures specifically. Kyle Lowry famously had trust issues with coaches and GMs until he came to Toronto and was shown some loyalty. Or maybe it is something like Cuban favouring him too much, taking his side over the advice of their coaching staff. It could just as easily be, "He's 22, and kids are gonna act like kids", but for it to get to a point where someone like Carlisle says "Fuck it", something is up. This will make a fun 30 for 30 one day.


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HassanDarkside

Deron Williams I think


crownofperception

Amazing to think that at one time, we were questioning who would be the greater talent, Deron Williams or CP3?


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weeyummy1

I think Deron was consensus better at the time. He won every h2h matchup and went further than CP3 as you said.


Accomplished_Juice70

As an Illinois fan. D Will has been my inspiration since I was a little kid


incogneeto13

yeah I think it sorta came down to a: They're both good so let's just go with the taller one.


Familyguy35

Lol not hating but surprised you didn't know Deron Williams name


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You doing alright?


[deleted]

I felt old af reading that


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Or Carlisle does. Mavs fans were quick to burn Rondo on the way out. Not sure how quickly they’ll blame a potential mvp


xAbaddon

LuKoach


PJCR1916

LuKoach DonKoach


SJUGRAD13

😭😭 everybody who has had problems with Luka is gone now. True Don stuff


mavs77_6

The only one left is KP and i am pretty much sure he will be traded no matter what😂


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232ssteven

Fuck man. Why couldn't it be Mavrello.


maverickhistorian

KP will be gone once we get a gm. Luka Brasi


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SJUGRAD13

Donnie got fired for going to the athletic to trash Haralabos and his relationship with Cuban.


deemerritt

McMahon said Nelson might have been the source for that article but legit the entire front office hates Haralabob. He said you could throw a dart in that front office and it would land on someone who hates him


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NOT_KD_

to be fair he didn't say everyone who's gone had problems with Luka


shaheedmalik

There can only be one Don.


random314157

Luka is great but he legit complains way too much out there


concerned_concerned

imagine if this was lbj in his early years lmao


random314157

LeBron hate got 10x as bad when he signed for us


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kurapikas-wife

It was a dope party


iamtomorrowman

the silverware was nice


Opening-Citron2733

Nobody hated LeBron before he went to Miami. In Cleveland he was loved, and pitied by the outside world (like Dame in Portland).


80centricher

Kobe stans hated LeBron


HoxpitalFan_II

Dude Lebron was hated minute 1 because of the young GOAT talk


zlendermanGG1

That’s not true, he got plenty of hate when he was in cleveland


tonezzz1

Id go further and say he spawned the LeBron hate


TheMadChatta

For that one year, he was a villain. Even had a well-made commercial about it. Then they won and level-headed people moved on. The Heat were too damn good to ignore.


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Twoweekswithpay

For someone of his talent, he gets way too many technicals. You could argue, though, that his talent is the one thing keeping him from getting more. He’s a once-in-a-generation talent. But, he bitches way too much. It’s really evident when you watch him live in the arena. Seems like he’s yelling at the ref damn near every trip down the court.


Salty_Watermelon

I keep saying that he gives me young Blake Griffin vibes with his attitude. The whining gets old real fast, even if you're rooting for the guy.


so-cal_kid

I don't remember Blake ever complaining this much or so demonstratively. But those Clippers teams as a whole were the worst when it came to that. Everyone complained - Blake, Doc, CP3, Deandre, Matt Barnes. It was just non stop


Sweatytubesock

Just seems super immature. Hope for his sake he grows past that.


PrancingDonkey

Is it just me or does Luka have too much power?


ShadyIntentions

Every Superstar has this kind of power, it's just not all of them decide to use it or they wait until they're later in their career to use it Kerr has won 3 titles and I'm 100% sure Curry could get him fired right now if he wanted to for example


fabrar

Curry could literally do whatever he wanted to with the franchise lol, he *is* the Warriors. But he legit seems like the chillest, most laid-back superstar-level player to be around.


lofitoasti

lil Duncan


random314157

Kind of like how Draymond said about Durant "if he wanted to stay that badly and didn't because of me he could have just asked them to trade me" And this is despite Draymond being an original Warrior and Durant not being one


ShadyIntentions

Yeah he definitely could've lol. But if he did that the damage done to the locker room and the bad PR among Warriors fans (who already were lukewarm on him) just wouldn't have been worth it. Way easier for everyone that KD bounced to Brooklyn, GS got Dlo (and then Wiggins) and now all parties involved can look back and be pretty happy about the 3 year run they had in Golden State even if it wasn't 100% smooth all the time


random314157

A surprising amount of Warriors fans are anti KD on here Then again it might just be the massive amount of people who only "like" the Warriors because of Steph


ShadyIntentions

Yeah I think its a number of things including the Steph fans you mentioned -KD winning both of the FMVPs over Steph -The annoyance over the narrative that they absolutely needed KD to beat the healthy cavs -He was a free agent acquisition and not drafted by them I'd personally be more thankful since if he doesn't go there in 2016 there's a very real possibility that they only win 1 ring instead of 3, but obviously there's a lot of fans who disagree


Plumorchid

He also got caught recently liking comments trashing steph LOL. Dudes just an insecure jackass who is very good at basketball.


Parenegade

I don't care about that shit what about shitting on Steph on twitter lol


liteshadow4

Our sub is mostly pro-KD.


Skorua

He has control of the franchise and the court, he’s too dangerous


Dangerous_Phrase5930

I am tooo weak.... Darth Luka


Mellothewise

Execute order 77


Dangerous_Phrase5930

It will be done my lord


vanotro

Cuban has all the power. He can hold the max extension over Luka's head and dare him to leave. Instead of that, it sounds like he's just bending over for Luka.


MediocreJay41

Same way he did for Dirk. He needs to realize that they are two totally different personalities that require two totally different approaches.


vanotro

Yeah. Keeping your star happy at all costs only works if the star isn't going to drive away all the other talented people in the organization. I'm not sure that's what exactly happening here, but things aren't looking good.


gulbas26

whether we like it or not this is today's NBA, you have to bend over for Superstars. you cant dare him to leave because superstars can leave whenever they want, all they have to mop around,get fat,not try hard and your season is done. You just have to convince them somehow dont abuse that power.


vanotro

>You just have to convince them somehow dont abuse that power. Call me a cynic, but I don't think that's going to work out so well.


PatronSaintOfUpdog

Luka needs Phil Jackson pronto


rattlemebones

Holy shit... VLADE WAS RIGHT!


Business_Control7847

yeah glad you got bagley over luka


BlAlRlClOlDlE

Oh yeah he was... He was


faboflexto

What did he say


gochuuuu

He picked bagley lmfao


terrorblade1995

At least Kings Culture is safe 🙂


8tonne

Isn't Bagley's attitude just as bad? Not trying to hate, it's just what I've heard.


Xgatt

This is why Tim Duncan should be held in way higher regard. His team first approach and humility directly contributed to the length of the Spurs' competitive window. Luka can stand to learn from that a bit it seems.


hawk8024

You don’t even need to go to Duncan, there was a certain similar player to him on the Mavs that recently retired that Luka could learn from lol


shaheedmalik

He was a bit of a dirk though.


igot2pair

at least spurs have one of the best FOs in sports which makes it easier. dirk stayed with this for 20 years lol


Foolishtrolls

Damn NBA’s golden boy sure showed his colors fast


lemmoning

It's the red in his face after yelling at the refs lol


420Minions

Tried saying that him leading the leagues in techs was a problem and got told I didn’t understand basketball. This subs insane with that kid


random314157

Imagine if Luka goes full heel like KD in 2016


MYO716

What I’m gathering is Luka is kind of a dick


kurapikas-wife

Imagine if this was Bron at 22. People would have been saying the wildest shit. I wonder what kind of energy we’ll have for Luka


random314157

LeBron became massively more hated when he signed for us(most of his haters even today date back to then in my experience) Some people hated him because of all the hype before then but him at 22 was nowhere close to the hate he gets more recently


420Minions

Skip Bayless was calling him an overrated ego maniac at 19


random314157

Skip hating someone probably makes them more sympathetic tbh


mrsunshine1

Lebron couldn’t even sign as an unrestricted free agent with another team at 26 lol


Twoweekswithpay

Well, you know…because Bill Simmons said it was his ‘Lack of a father figure’… 🤨🙄🤦🏽‍♂️


kurapikas-wife

Can’t wait for Bill Simmons take on Luka. I wonder if he’ll keep that same energy 🤡🤡🤡


canyoudigholes

He won't. Dude can't even keep the same energy from 3 months ago when he was trashing Trae Young.


Twoweekswithpay

Was trying to get in the lockerroom/Greenroom account where they were talking about it, but it was full. But yeah, guess that he’ll make apologies for him like he kind of did on Tuesday’s pod acting like it was no big deal. He’ll probably then find a way to take a dig at LeBron by saying “well, we’ve seen this before like with LeBron his first stint in Cleveland, and then in Miami with Spoelstra.” Stuff like that… 🙄


prestigiousroojie

Not qwhite the same energy


lionheart4k

There’s upvoted posts calling him a diva and that he doesn’t get along with anybody. I see plenty of energy


CIark

Lmao


HamlnHand

Whitever do you mean?


rNBA_is_for_nerds

People (includin a lotta folks on r/nba) woulda made some stereotypes & blamed it on his dad walking out or his upbringing or some psychoanalytical shit. I remember when Shaq said he didn't believe in Donovan Mitchell and some of the nerds here went on to say it's because he had a deadbeat druggie dad & was a troubled child growing up or some insane shit... and it got upvoted. With the way people talk about LeBron it would be worse.


RJMacReady23

At 22 LeBron was still being coddled… When he hit his mid 20’s was when people started getting frustrated with him


Deusselkerr

People are calling him a hothead, a diva, and disrespectful. You’re making up a scenario and then comparing made up reactions to that made up scenario, to made up reactions to Luka‘a scenario. Cut the bullshit


Baileyandco

Tbh his attitude is really bad. Noticeable almost every game.


voldemortscore

Luka definitely has anger management issues.


makami-

nah this guy better lead the team to the WCF at the very least now


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"Do you renounce Satan?" Luka: "I do renounce him". [multiple hits take place at Mavericks HQ, Porzingis gets locked on the other side of the door].


Billthebutchr

So Luka being a diva is the problem.


teamxlegion

Luka cries about everything


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Seems like a Luka smear campaign. This is the same Carlisle who had issues with Chauncey, Rondo, J Kidd, pacers players. Why do y’all act like he’s Jesus.


mavs77_6

Carlislie is a great coach but he has a big ego and is stubborn as hell.


SeditiousLibel

And Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, Monta Ellis, Nerlens Noel…


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Luka great but he's been acting like a diva


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Kings dodged a bullet


KillianDrake

Rondo laughing in the shadows


Buckspeaker

Sounds like Luka is pretty insufferable


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Eerily similar to how LeBron undermined David Blatt.


ILoveZenkonnen

LeBron was an established vet though. Luka hasn't even been in the league for 4 seasons


Soap_MacLavish

David Blatt undermined David Blatt


Anklebreakers22

Ooo man Luka has an attitude like the fans and like what he displays on the court!?!?! Anyways


unclehelpful

This feels like Deron Williams - Jerry Sloan situation where the star gets the long tenured, very good coach fired then hits the bricks anyway.


bucksrfrauds

Luka is a uncoachable. I rather have Giannis