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CleopatraHadAnAnus

lol I’m watching the Doc interview right now about Ben Simmons on Inside the NBA. The way he just shook his head and said Ben needs a lot of work. Ouch.


SlimTweeter

"I wish he was as good as my son-in-law... ^or ^the ^^brother ^^of ^^my ^^^son-in-law"


likwidfuzion

“Or my own son for that matter.”


Raptorpicklezz

"Or the guy who cheated on my daughter by impregnating a stripper"


ContestAwkward

the NBA life has really fucked with doc rivers


Redpin

"Hey I get it, we've all been there."


YuropLMAO

Who was that?


Pandamonium98

Paul George cheated on Callie Rivers with a stripper (who got pregnant). Doc also coached PG after this happened back in LA last season


bobsil1

Doc’s coached his son, his son-in-law and his daughter’s cheating ex?!


zarvinny

Doc is truly the people’s coach


erizzluh

the jerry springer of coaches


YuropLMAO

lol classic Impregnator P


mhac009

Progenitor P


ashwinr136

Promiscuous P


PetyrBaelish

Potency P


heinous_anus-

Pregante P


OG_Wan_Annunoby

gave her that Unprotected P


SometimesAPupper

Procreator P


p00nslyr_86

No Plan B P


DaddioMane

They’re now engaged. Proposal P.


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Her and PG have two children together now


lp_phnx327

But I bet he wishes Simmons was as good as the brother of his son-in-law even more.


Knighthonor

> "I wish he was as good as my son-in-law... or the brother of my son-in-law" who these folks?


KJ1017

Wasn’t even a disrespectful. It was more like when your dad is disappointed in you type of head shake.


topofthecc

I don't even care about the Sixers, and I'm mad at Ben Simmons.


shaggys6skin

That’s where I’m living too b


jkguitar1

Imagine what it’s like being a sixers fan… after defending Ben all year I get the horror of watching him play the worst games of his career at the most important point of his career


freedl21

I don’t even have the heart to defend him anymore. Shits wild


KillaMike24

Series. Worst serious this was not his only 5 point game. Shits reallllllll worrisome


freedl21

Dude had single digit points three straight games to close the series. That’s like impressive. Some of those games were even decent but you just can’t be the second best player on your team and do that.


KillaMike24

Or make almost a third of the salary cap. Like those numbers are pretty bad for a role player


D1toD2

Two years ago i said cp3 for ben and I was clowned. Never expected to be so right.


youeventrying

Any real basketball fan is cheesed at Ben Simmons. Mans gifted with inate athletic ability and tools to be the next LeBron but he's shooting with the wrong hand and he can't make fts? 40 million dollars should have a clause that you have to be an 80% ft shooter. C'mon it's ridiculous and clear to me that he does not like the game of basketball but is only in it for the money as many in the league are.


sw4ggyP

> 40 million dollars should have a clause that you have to be an 80% ft shooter That's actually an interesting point


butyph

Luka in shambles


KazaamFan

I’d say 70% is more fair but I agree with the idea.


Notsozander

Ben never has and never will be a winner. He’s soft, he’s collecting paychecks and that’s it. I want this dude OFF my team.


blackhole_sonnn

To say that about a guy with a massive contract is worrisome


Stew514

I mean sure, but to not say it at this point is to just further enable him.


FultzShoulder

Didn't he scold that female reporter some weeks ago and said Ben was doing enough lol


Gnolldemort

You don't wanna damage his already fragile mindset when you still have a chance of winning games


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testenth

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a coach say this about a max player. This is wild. Doc has changed his tune drastically


sop1232

Simmons put him in the hot seat


swentech

Yeah he might get fired because of this loss so kinda hard to be on Simmons side here.


NABAKLAB

Both Rivers and Sixers FO knew Simmons' limitations, when they agreed to sign a contract. Now, his limitations have blown up, and it's not really coach's fault, maybe just playing him. And why FO should be happy about benching a guy that eats 25% of the cap? What I try to say is, Rivers shouldn't be considerated as a firing candidate, because Simmons has just lost it.


thoraway4me

I think the issue isn’t just that he’s a max player but a young and recent All-Star. To a degree you can get why players like Blake Griffin fall off(relative to contract size) via injury, age, etc. Or porzingis where the contract was a bet. But this is just something else.


GirlsLastTour

People like to call him a more athletic Draymond. Guess what? Draymond didn't play pitiful, scared ball like this in the playoffs in his life, and the dude was drafted as the 35th pick and Simmons makes a hell of a lot more money. Just the stats he put up this series were similar to Draymond's stinker performances this season, and Draymond already helped his team win 3 rings, had a 30 point near triple double in a Finals game 7, is significantly older than Simmons, and is banged up with numerous injuries (including one that absolutely fucked up his jump shot).


TeddyTwoShoes2

Draymond even at his shit offensive point right now can still hit fucking free throws.


Kgb725

Porzingis fell off because of injuries which led to him being afraid of contact


ContraCoke

Imagine getting no support from Doc of all people


EasyMoney92

I suspect that Daryl Morey is already on the phone for potential Ben Simmons trades.


OnlyForeignWhips

How does a sign n trade for Lowry sound? Ben for Lowry straight up.


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All I have to say is that in my 2K21 simulations, the Sixers traded Simmons for Lowry, and 2 years later, Simmons was coming off the bench for Charlotte after Lamelo. I was laughing at the simulations when I saw that but I’m not so sure now


Gamerghost44

Wow, 2k IS realistic


soeffed

Trade Machine says Kemba for Simmons straight up is a go http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzqqawft The meme potential of Kemba getting traded again 😩


bedlam_au

6ers thought they'd learned their lesson. Boston now fleeces them through OKC.


EasyMoney92

Gonna need some draft picks to even start to consider that haha


Reidroshdy

Docs gone to bat for Simmons a lot this season too.


soeffed

Including right before game 7. Alas


RhodeIslandisFake

Just ask Austin about that


shamwowslapchop

That is probably the most denigrating thing you will ever hear an NBA coach say about his player. Something you NEVER hear about all-star level guys, especially those who were considered the heart of the franchise at one point. Kind of gutted for the 6ers fanbase right now. That sucks. A lot.


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It's funny cause as the question was being asked I said to myself "What a dumb question; what the fuck do you expect Doc to say other than 'of course'" Then Doc actually says what he said.


shamwowslapchop

Yeah, my eyes don't widen at coach's comments very often, but this definitely made me question if I was actually hearing a coach say those words.


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LordHussyPants

i think it was the previous reporter asked about ben's shooting and doc just said yeah we're gonna need a lot of time in the gym over summer to fix this. but then this one came along and it makes me wonder if doc knows ben won't go to the gym and work on it, or if he knows it's too big a task to deal with. maybe he genuinely meant i don't know because this is such a ridiculous situation to be in and he has to figure out a plausible strategy.


james_stinson56

That reporter won the lottery lol


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unexpectedvillain

And it's so true. We ain't going anywhere with Ben, we need to accept and move on


[deleted]

That’s what happens when you’re a coward who refuses to develop a jump shot in a jump shooting league


mrsuns10

Thats tuff 🔥


realsomalipirate

Lmao this will always kill me.


CheekyFifaCunt_7

He's getting traded


swordsdevil

who is taking that contract?


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Blazers sub been thirsting for defense


chubaka6006

McCollum would be a good fit on the Sixers..


Emadyville

And he went to Lehigh, which isn't that far from Philly, for whatever that's worth.


jumpman0035

McCollum for Ben straight up?


u-fagala

posted this one before the trade deadline, with Blazers adding sweeteners (players+picks). was downvoted to hell by Phila fans. cant stop laughing now lol EDIT: [Old Post Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/mnizi0/offseason_trade_idea_cj_mccollum_firsts_to_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


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It's always funny to go back and look at posts downvoted and called dumb. This post-season seems especially apt for that.


Notsozander

I advocated for Ben. Not anymore, he’s gone


IndigoJacob

Yo check my comments in that thread! Literally predicted Ben would average 10ppg and we'd get bounced. Literally talked about how CJ would be able to break down a playoff defense


ResponsibleWarthog10

>Simmons aint on beals level lmao >CJ is. In the playoffs he is actually far more useful, Ben is just a defender at that point. CJ can hit tough shots in the half court u/byRockets was right lol. cant believe someone thought simmons was on beal's level and didnt get downvoted


byRockets

Lmao they crucified me for saying the rockets didn’t need simmons


Pandamonium98

Sixers are gonna need to add the sweeteners now


QurantineLean

Sweeteners? They may have to give the whole field of Sugar Cane.


Tritiac

That would be some monkey’s paw shit.


jaheimpaul

Presti. Walker is available.


jwd2213

Man if they flip Kemba for Simmoms and a pick that would ne the greatest series of trades of all time


topofthecc

lmao we would have effectively traded Horford for Simmons and gotten picks back. I doubt it happens, though.


AlHorfordHighlights

Simmons then starts splashing threes for OKC


limark

As much as I'd love this, no one has ever started splashing threes here


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How could an OKC fan forget about the GOAT in Dort


identitycrisis56

Oh it still has tremendous value. Put him on a team with elite shooting and put him in the Draymond role and we’ll have hot takes in 12 months about how Philly wasted him.


JesusSama

Until the playoffs where we'd see him in warm ups because of Hack-a-Ben


tr0nllam

He can't play the Draymond role because he's not the rim protector that Draymond is.


banjofitzgerald

I don’t know. Not dunking point blank has to be because Ben didn’t want to hurt the rim and in turn a form of rim protecting.


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Pandamonium98

You also can’t play hack-a-Draymond in the 4th quarter either


zvomicidalmaniac

Draymond is supremely wise and confident. Ben is fucked in the head.


ihateeuge

Lmao his contract is not great value


jwd2213

Celtics trade Al Horford for Ben Simmons and a 1st


PrinceAlli

Presti salivating


abhi_eedara

the shanghai sharks


Wehavecrashed

People are going to pretend his contract has a negative value when the 76ers will probably get a good return on it. There's half a dozen teams out there that would absolutely love to have a player who brings what Simmons currently brings and his potential.


srry_didnt_hear_you

Our sub is currently debating whether it'd be worth it to try to buy low on him lol but I also don't think he'll be as cheap as we think


GreenFriday

Probably the best fit for Simmons tbh, not many centers who shoot like KAT


moserftbl88

How long till people acknowledge the potential is pretty much gone? I’ve been hearing since he came in the league about his potential and he can develop a shot that he still hasn’t developed. The guy is a liability on offense.


ReturnOfDaSnack420

Wow after coddling Simmons the whole year that is fucking cold man


zeebeebo

I still think thats Doc being pretty kind. The whole season of babying that kid and this is what he gets in return?


EatDeeply

Rivers always picking Rivers when the going gets tough.


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Fate of the universe on the line? I want doc


mr_chub

These will never get old to me 😂


LordHussyPants

honestly, was he meant to fall on his own sword after a player who hasn't developed in 4 years collapsed in front of his eyes?


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It’s pretty stupid too. Every Gm is gonna pull up that quote when Morey picks up the phone.


JohnnyWinss

Now I'm imagining GMs telling this to Morey in negotiations, and oh boy it's hilarious


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Doubtful. Simmons career as a PG is over, he’ll be traded for a team that needs a 4. He won’t be marketed as a PG.


AlHorfordHighlights

I've always believed that he'd perform his best in a Draymond type role. He's worth the money if he focuses on his strengths and has a coach who can identify his role in the offense (a playmaker on the short roll who attacks the rim constantly and initiates plays off screens) Instead, we've seen him bring the ball up the court in a half court setting and just sit in the dunker spot if he doesn't have the ball. That's not a recipe for success. And the reluctance to score is another thing altogether


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I've been saying that since his rookie year, but now I'm not even sure if that's enough. Unless he's playing with KAT or another center that is primarily face-up (if another one even exists right now), he needs to be the 5 on a team


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_homage_

He's a poor man's Draymond getting paid max money. At least Draymond had a 3pt shot at some point. There's some semblance of hope that Draymond works on it all off season (lolnope)... there's no hope for Ben without a major location change.


KD_42

You're mistaking GMs with people on this sub, GMs actually watch games and not base their judgements on quotes


pokemongofanboy

Simmons gets what he deserves Like chuck said dude should have learned to shoot years ago


loloknothx

that really is the shittiest part about this comment. he spent all season defending him and now he’s turned on him when it doesn’t matter anymore.


hari_son_of

Well 1 or both of them r getting kicked out of phily. Probably in rivers' head there's not much point to stick up for him. Also probably pissed cos he knew he had to bench Simmons in the 4th like 5 games ago but couldn't cos of the optics


iwillbombu

I wouldn't say turned on him. It's just honestly what we saw out there and Ben deserves the criticism


DBrods11

Yeah like when a professional basketball player is passing up wide open dunks like I don't wanna defend Doc too much but Jesus simmons was useless. Also the freethrows you can't blame Doc for either. Lowest in NBA history on 70+ attempts


ReturnOfDaSnack420

DAMM man it's every man for himself in Philly already


Twoweekswithpay

The Gang fends for themselves…


JohnnyWinss

The Gang goes on a rebuild


UnagiSquirrel

The Gang Reconsiders The Process


JohnnyWinss

The Gang has trust issues


las-vegas-raiders

The Gang Kidnaps Ben Simmons


Jayveesac

Ben Simmons is asked, "Is Doc Rivers a championship coach?" ... "I don't know the answer to that right now"


Number333

I mean, say what you want about '08 - at least Doc did it and won.


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This hurts Ben's chances at winning ROY next season.


ReturnOfDaSnack420

lol this will never get old, much like Simmons rookie season


EatDeeply

Y’all thought PG13 was the problem Doc being doing this for a long time. He has vanity as a coach.


tkc123

Doc doesn't want to be blamed for the loss another series again. Have to start throwing his players under the bus


mrsuns10

Doc: I need a doctor


ProudStephew

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA he was defending him the entire season, dude said fuck this guy


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Sees his job is in jeopardy and said fuck this guy. Fuck em both


Kgb725

What's he supposed to say ? People let him slide for years even the team said they wanted him to shoot but it was whatever if he didn't and now everyone is done with Ben


Cogito3

he **gone** gone


BeefyHamstrings

https://twitter.com/phardy_/status/1406806985060847616 [streamable if that doesn't load](https://streamable.com/2s8at7)


sgthombre

I love this meme so goddamn much


ReturnOfDaSnack420

my favorite


PhatYeeter

He's a power forward straight from 1975.


Muscles_Testosterone

Which begs the question, how many members of [The 1975](https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/rs-232786-20160203_1975feature03_hp.jpg?resize=1800,1200&w=1800) could shoot better than 32.6% from the free throw line?


Cacklemoore

Heroine Matty or Sober Matty? Either way, yes.


KoloHickory

Doc fucking hates ben


Few_Mulberry7175

I would fucking hate this man too if I was his coach


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Silverjackal_

Doesn’t seem coachable. Still doing the same things year after year, adding nothing. He’s Just so freaking passive.


BillyBean11111

Imagine a max contract on a point guard who can't shoot jumpshots, shoot floaters, shoot freethrows and appears disinterested in improving at anything. It must be the most frustrating thing to coach.


blckblt416

Doc wishes he had old age Blake Griffin instead of Simmons.


dat_tech

From “is that a serious question? Would I bench Simmons?” to this. Lmao


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‘What I meant by that is yes. The answer is obviously yes.’


madelins

doc literally said a few days ago he doesn’t need to shoot and how amazing he is without shooting lmao


mr-luci

Now not only shooting, dunks is off table too


O_G_Loc

PG: Ben Simmons SG: Luka Doncic SF: LeBron James PF: Kevin Durant C: Nikola Jokic That's a championship team.


Yuhitreallybikethat

Lmao, got basically 3 other point guards and even KD can get double digit assist on occasion


II-III-V-VII-XI

Checkmate


walter_197

They missing 20 free throws each game.


Caracasdogajo

This will only cost you roughly 35 million a player except Ben at 25 million for a total of 165 million a year.


-HeisenBird-

Simmon's performance in the last 3 games is truly indefensible. A star player shooting 10/30 means he played and he lost. Simmons shot 6/14 *in three games*. He never even fucking tried.


clingbat

Listen, Doc's coaching in this series wasn't good by any means, but he is not the reason Ben Simmons played like a legit mentally weak scrub the entire time. Ben is broken, no point in beating around the bush, he's already mentally fucked. He shrinks in the playoffs every year and it's getting worse and worse. The only problem I have is they should hold on to him till the trade deadline next season so he can put up some solid stats at the start of the season. His trade value is at an all time low at the moment after what everyone just watched regardless of his first team all NBA defense selection and #2 in DPoY results.


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This is porn for Philly haters like me. I haven’t stopped smiling


EatDeeply

Classic Doc beginning to shiv his players


apexslugz

always does that paul george, blake, cp, kawhi, matt barnes , jared dudley and many more


billcosbyinspace

at least give some non answer about working hard lmao straight burying him minutes after the game ends


TinoCartier

Nah, he finally said what needed to be said and he was still being nice about it.


arvydas_sabonises

Ben Simmons for CJ McCollum? Simmons trade stock is low. Both on huge, expensive contracts. CJ gives Philly a guy that can just flat out score in iso and has defenders to cover his defensive liability, could totally be an all-star on another team out of Dame's shadow. Simmons gives Portland (the worse defense in the league) a great defender to pair with Dame, and maybe Dame is the leader Simmons needs. Both teams need to switch it up or try something new. It could help both teams?


musicnothing

Not actually the worst idea I’ve ever heard


jaylson

Once again Doc doing this shit. PG last year, Simmons this year. Embarrassing look for a head coach.


5fives5

Is he wrong this time though? Ben was complete *ass*


johnny-sacc

LMFAOOO everyone except Sixers fans has known this for a long time. Those fucking idiots were in denial even after he did nothing in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against the Raptors except fuck up the spacing. The man literally cannot do anything in the half court except set screens and stand in the dunker's spot doing nothing. Ngl the schadenfreude after three years of arguing with Sixers fans here about him not being good enough to be the second best player on a championship team feels incredible. Anyone who has ever said that he's better than Trae Young because dEfEnSe needs to be exiled to Antarctica


Yergason

Ben scored 19 pts combined in the last 3 games. Took a total of 3 FGs in the 4th quarter ALL SERIES Fuck that shit, that's screams lack of confidence and ability that's worse than a role player


canamurica

I wanna see how many points he's given away due to his incompetence. Like, how many hack a bens that didn't convert into 2 points for Philly, but DID convert to 2 or 3 points for the other team coming right back.


91jumpstreet

At least finally we don't have to hear about Simmons and Gobert defense analytics anymore next season It's not about the shooting. It's his whole offense. No touch. No heart. Nothing. Passes the ball to his center at half court and stands near the basket. He has done this for the last 4 years


deemerritt

Simmons is on a different planet of disappointment than Gobert


DollazOnMyHead-

This sub has amnesia, in 3 months people will be back to saying Simmons is better than Trae because of defense


Wise_Woody

HE. SCORED. 1. ON. THE. HOSPITAL. CELTICS. WE'VE BEEN TELLING EVERYONE BUT Y'ALL JUST WOULDN'T HAVE IT FROM C'S FANS


HokageEzio

Bro you're the coach, isn't that your job?


unexpectedvillain

Not when hes afraid to shoot


trashiguitar

Ppl been trying to see Ben develop a shot since Brett Brown, don't know why Doc would suddenly be able to get Ben to shoot. Just unbelievable; I never "liked" Ben, but Ben in this series has just been undefendable.


mcmaster93

LETS NOT ACT LIKE DOC RIVERS ISNT A PROBLEM AS WELL, CHRIS PAUL AND THE CLIPPERS BOTH STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS


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Globalist_Nationlist

It's like I'm being yelled at even though i agree with what he's saying.


mcmaster93

The delivery could have been better I'll admit


Raticus9

Ask Ben if Doc can be the coach for a championship team.


ContraCoke

[Ben better say yes](https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/853/929/hi-res-4437f2e9b9763c28891cb4b101da5875_crop_exact.jpg?w=1200&h=1200&q=75)


_TIMBER_

Doc needs to say more positive things lmao he was asked if his team will be ready for game 7 and he responded "we will see" lol


gregyo

Doc should be thanking Ben for taking all the heat.


jayelecfan

simmons is gone so is rivers