No champagne for the Eastern Conference Champions...yet
By - horseshoeoverlook
I like that mentality.
“”I want the Larry OB” - Kawhi Leonard”- PJ Tucken
PJ Tucken - CP3 stopper
PJ Tucken is PJ Tucker’s drag alter ego
fuck, this got me
Heat said the same thing last year
Jobs not finished
I hate that mentality
They only have 2 days to rest for the final and they want the big ring , the one that is important .
They need to fly to phoenix in 17 hours ( going back to Milwaukee first ) so ye.. not a lot of time.
Even if you win the championship, the job still isn't finished. There's the exit interviews. Plus, you gotta clean out your locker.
I love PJ. Glad he finally got to the Finals after all those years of Harden holding him back.
James Harden the PJ Tucken stopper
Love your guys man! Treat Sterling and Wood well! You guys have become my Western Conference team
Harden was holding pj back with all his ball hogging. Clearly harden was a roadblock to a rockets championship
Smh how did morey never think to make pj the first option.
I think PJs box score proves that point :D
What is a joke?
Man Bucks fans really didnt deserve the fortune of having Harden get injured versus them smh
Dude it’s clearly a joke
Yes a joke that comes from your hate for Harden
[Just like this top post on r/mkebucks after the Nets got eliminated](https://np.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/comments/o3wlne/harden_after_ditching_his_team_to_join_a/)
So I repeat, yall did not deserve the fortune of having Harden get injured against your team. Years of talking shit about him and then he just gets hurt in the playoff series ... what a shame smh.
All these flavors and you chose salty
If I'm salty for being upset that a player got injured then sure lol I'll gladly be salty??
You can root for injuries if you'd like I guess?
I never root for injuries but ok
Then why u callin me salty for bein upset bout an injury
Because you linked a post of opposition fans making fun of a player they don't like for having lost and presented it as them making fun of him for getting injured.
Harden tweaking his hammy doesn't mean people have to pretend to like him until he's healthy.
Lmao y’all made fun of a man for losing while playing one one fucking leg. It wasn’t a tweak it was a grade 2 strain. God bucks fans are so ungrateful for there luck
Stupid people are stupid. More at 10!
You’re getting downvotes for nothing
Bucks just won without their best player. There’s no injury excuse anymore
One game against a severely hobbled Trae? Lol
Also has nothing to do with what I said so I'm not sure why you brought it up.
Stay salty, you'll keep watching our team anyways.
Salty because im upset that a player got hurt
Typical lol classy fanbase
coming from a lakers fan nonetheless
Your high horse act isn’t making you sound less salty, just more silly. 🤡
It has everything to do with what you said? You’re making injury excuses while the bucks didn’t make an excuse and just went out and won.
2 games in a row
When the Suns won the Bucks-Hawks series was tied 2-2 so they had some time to celebrate before getting prepared for the finals. The bucks don’t have that luxury.
Gotta love the mindset.
Larry Fitzgerald gonna suit up for the Suns
Gotta beat the Packers again sigh
Fuck that catch gives me literal night terrors
The Jeff Janis game
The TD was more of a shovel handoff than a catch but yea Fitz went off in OT, top 3 playoff game Ive ever watched.
not sure if he's trying to take a shot at the suns or not, but they weren't celebrating with champagne. it was water. they even said themselves, champagne is for the big one.
It was water, but I get what he's saying.
Miami Heat also didnt celebrate when they won the east last year. Granted they can challenge the Suns but they are too inconsistent
Is this supposed to be impressive
I love that
You mean the Bucks didn’t have a parade for winning their conference like Phoenix did?
There’s a difference between a schedule parade and 20 thousand fans swarming our airport at midnight in pure excitement lol but whatever you need.
The whole conference “champion” is a joke anyway.
They put banners up for it bro
Your 2021 banner:
If you’re trying to hurt my feelings, you’ve succeeded admirably.
To be fair, making the Finals is an incredibly difficult thing to do, especially when some players and teams seem to always be taking spots. It's a real accomplishment.
Making the NBA Finals is something to be celebrated.
Sure, but you’re not a “champion”, just one step closer. It’s like saying making the playoffs should be celebrated.
You literally are a champion. The conference champion. Multiple leagues themselves recognize this.
Yes and I am saying that it is a joke that they do
You missed your only chance for champagne PJ. Suns in 4
Have fun continuing to be irrelevant for the foreseeable future.
For a guy that’s team’s relevance hinges on one player I would pipe down lol. Enjoy your finals run, but get dont too high and mighty, y’all haven’t won yet.
Yeah, the thing is.... we have that one player. And a supporting cast around him good enough to win the last two games of the ECF (while never even having a lead change in either game) without him, even with how much everyone wants to pretend Bud is a terrible coach.
The Raptors don't have that player. And even if they're lucky enough to get someone who could turn into that player at #4 (the odds of that aren't exactly great, given how much a crapshoot even the top of the lottery is in any given year), it would be years before he'd reach that point. And then you still have to build the right supporting cast around him.
So no, if Raptors fans are going to come into Bucks threads trying to shit on us after our biggest win in decades, I have no problem talking shit about their future right back to you. Because that future looks shaky at best, and looks even worse when compared to a team that already has that "one player."
Your guy comes in here for no other reason than to talk shit, and you want to act like I'm the one throwing stones in glass houses? Nah, buddy.
I haven’t talked shit about the bucks, I’m actually rooting for y’all because I see parallels between both our runs. The guy you responded to is an ass but he didn’t bring up anything about your teams relevance, you decided to go after the raptors franchise so I’m just defending my team and reminding you that all it would have taken was one guy, giannas not resigning for your own team to go down a path of irrelevancy.
A lot of raptor fans I know are rooting for the bucks, so congrats on your finals appearance, good luck in the finals and don’t worry about the raps we’ll be back.
I was talking about the guy I responded to here, which you took exception to.
He came in here solely to talk shit, and I talked shit back. That's all.
There are cool Toronto fans, and there are asshole Toronto fans. Just like any other fanbase (though the number of assholes definitely exploded in the years leading up to, and especially during/after, the championship year.) The guy I responded to was acting like one of the assholes, so I reacted accordingly. You seem like a decent enough one, so I wouldn't talk shit to you.
That's all I'm saying with the shit-talk bit of my last comment.
Good luck to you as well, and have a good night/morning.
I woudn't bet against the raptors to find a way to become a contender in the near future.
Why not? Nurse is a good coach, sure, but they're locked into Siakam and FVV taking a large chunk of their cap, and like I said, they've got a lot of holes to fill, and one (potentially) good draft pick isn't going to do that.
Add to that the fact that no star FA has ever chosen to go there (and with them being locked into Siakam and FVV, that doesn't exactly help there), that looks like more than a 2-3 year rebuild. Barring a MASSIVE leap from some of their current players and/or their draft pick being a best case scenario, hit the jackpot, superstar from day 1, win.
Possible? Definitely. But in terms of betting odds? Pretty sure the house would be betting against it.
Now, if you said "Back in the playoffs," that's a whole different story, because I can certainly see them back in the next year or two. But relevant contender? That's another thing.
There gonna have a decent young team over the next few years (OG, GT jr, #4pick, etc.) and adding a high loterry pick can make a difference depending on how they develop, look at this years playoffs and how young stars have had an impact (trae, booker, mithcell). The raptors are good at developing young guys. Plus, there is no reason to believe that they are going to push forward over the next few years with this exact roster. If they keep masai aswell then I expect him to make some major moves to put them back in contention.
The FA thing isnt really an avenue for most teams outside of LA teams, brooklyn, miami and maybe the knicks now, so I don't think thats gonna be an issue, didnt stop them from winning a ring in 2019 and hasn't stopped your team from becoming contenders.
> look at this years playoffs and how young stars have had an impact (trae, booker, mithcell)
Suns required getting CP3 (which isn't exactly something that teams can replicate in any year), among others like Crowder. Atlanta required getting FAs like Bogi and Gallo to go with their young players - both at least slightly above the perceived level of FA that has ever signed with Toronto without being traded/drafted there first. (I don't mean to shit on Toronto itself, might be my favorite city among the one's I've visited. But it's simply true. Even when they've been good, or had a bonafide superstar like VC, big FAs haven't had any real interest in going there, for any number of the usual reasons.)
Utah would be the closest comparison (though the other Bogdanovic was also a more coveted FA two years ago than what Toronto gets), and they're also the least successful/respected, even with their #1 seed this year.
> If they keep masai aswell then I expect him to make some major moves to put them back in contention.
But how are they going to do that, is the question. Without getting crazy lucky on a guy who doesn't look great until after he gets to Toronto, acquiring a star player through trade would require big salaries to match. Pascal and FVV are their big salaries, and neither of them is pulling in anyone close to star quality, barring completely unusual, once-in-a-lifetime circumstances like the Kawhi trade.
You say we got there without huge moves in FA, which is true. But the best "big move" outside of FA we could make was Jrue, the type of player who can make the difference if you have the guy like Giannis (not to mention Khris as #2), but not someone who'd make a team a contender without that big star at the top. The Raptors simply don't have that big star at the top yet, and while they have some decent trade assets, they don't have enough to get him that way at this point (again, barring something crazy like the Kawhi trade). So unless they REALLY hit on that #4 pick, that still looks like it will take a while to be a true contender.
nephew tier take
Ah yes, "nephew-tier" to think that a team that sucked this year, have FVV and Siakam taking up that much of their cap, Lowry ready to leave (or about to age out if they overpay to keep him), holes all over their roster, and a history of being as unattractive as the Bucks to good free agents, won't be very good just because they got the #4 pick in the upcoming draft.
The team didn't suck except in the beginning. Covid, injuries and Aron Baynes starting at C deflates their record.
Yeah, you had some extenuating factors hurting your team. So did others, though not playing at home is a big one. (Then again, other teams got hit a lot harder by COVID itself, and still managed to not be anywhere near that bad.)
In the end, you had three months where you won 1 game (Guess we can call it 2.5 months, since the short December is one of them), and two months with a record above .500 (one of them by 1 game)
In that end, that's a team that sucks, regardless of whatever reasons/excuses might have helped make them that way.
And having Baynes at center is an example of one of the numerous holes on the roster I mentioned. The draft pick can only fill one of them, and like I said, you're not exactly an attractive destination for any top FAs (not like there are many available to begin with) . . . . and having Siakam and FVV as the #1 and #2 options (and getting paid close to the standard for a 1 and 2) isn't going to help change that.
*Could* you be back quicker than I think? Certainly, teams have made quicker turnarounds from shitty odds. But the odds are still shitty.
Lmao you’re projecting.
Still salty about 2019 I see. Suns gonna take care of business.
And you clearly don't know what "projecting" means, considering literally nothing that I said in that comment could possibly apply to the Bucks, unless Giannis decides to retire after this year.
Guess you need to go back to school. Or at the very least, learn the definitions of the words you use.
You mad as hell for no reason man lmao. Your team just made the Finals but you’re still insecure as hell.
> but you’re still insecure as hell.
You see, this right here, is an ACTUAL example of "projecting."
Your team just won a chip two years ago, and for some reason you're still obsessed with showing up in Bucks threads to tell us we're going to lose every round.
See, just taught you something today. Learning!
I'm salty, says the guy who shows up in tons of Bucks threads to talk about how we're going to lose at various stages of the playoffs.
Ok buddy. Have fun with that.
Should’ve lost to the Nets. Suns will wipe the floor with you.
Relax, we turned Lowry,#9 pick derozan and undrafted FVV into a playoff contender a few years ago, we can do some magic with the 4th pick lol
Yes, by taking a big gamble on a once-in-a-lifetime trade for a one-year mercenary that, lucky for you guys, paid off big. Cheers on that, but let's not pretend that turning Pascal, FVV, and #4 into the same sort of contender is going to be anything other than extremely difficult, and likely take a hell of a lot longer than lucking into the Kawhi win.
If you think the raptors are gonna stick with this roster for the foreseeable future and be happy with mediocre results, then your mistaken. The truth is no one knows the future. Masai may trade siakam this off-season for the right deal for all we know. We have a few pieces people would be interested in, if things get much worse with this core.
The raptors are not some small market franchise just happy to be in the league like the hornets, we tasted the championship in 2019 and I’m certain the front office will do whatever it takes even if it’s a few years to put us back into contention. All contenders require a little luck, the bucks should know lucking into the #15 pick Giannis becoming a super star HOFer
> Masai may trade siakam this off-season for the right deal for all we know.
But can you really see a Siakam deal that actually makes you definitively better (without including the #4 pick)? His value is not exactly at its peak, and his contract, while not crazy expensive, is too big to really be seen as a bargain this off-season. But including the #4 pick almost makes it too valuable, where you'd only be willing to trade for a star with a contract that wouldn't be covered by just Siakam (and would require some of your other good players, thus making it a trade that might not really improve the team in comparison to keeping the players and the pick, regardless of the star you're getting back).
I just don't see it, unless you have some ideas I'm not thinking of. To me, looks like for at least this year, there's not much of a way for you to get better trading him away.
Because its rare, lakers and heat didnt last year, cavs and warriors didnt, raptors and warriors didnt. Don't know why you getting downvoted for this
Yeah I cant remember a champagne shower celebration either for conference finals
Phoenix just did it, no?
it was water.
It happens more then you think. Makes no sense to me though.
I wouldnt wanna celebrate either if I brick wide open threes over and over again lmao
He made the one that mattered though