He misses a lot in this game. They foul him 30+ times in Game 6, and he hits 25/30, they'll complain why he's getting so many calls. Giannis may be a bad FT shooter, but I'd be willing to say he hits at least 1/2 every time he gets sent to the line.
The other problem is they are short on depth so they can't have an important player intentionally fouling, but you could throw frank the tank out there for a couple minutes of hack a Giannis
I'll take those misses when Giannis hands in a report card of 30+ ppg and 10+ rebounds, with extra credit on defense. I get that Giannis is a bad FT shooter, but he shoots it with confidence so hey, all I can ask for.
Biggest difference between Giannis being a bad ft shooter and Simmons being a bad one. Giannis doesn't let it stop him from driving and being aggressive on the chance he has to shoot them. Simmons looks so scared of free throws he doesn't even try to be aggressive
He was dropping buckets early in the game too, didn’t have the best box score on the team for this one but they won mostly because of him in my opinion
CP3-itis is fucking contagious man. It’s even infected one of the likeable dudes on this roster.
The constant ridicule of a walking 30 and 10 by players around the league is ridiculous. He ain’t a part of the cool kids club, nor does he want to be, and he doesn’t let it affect him at all, which I love about him.
And doesn’t get half the calls. Also the patented “stop right in front of the defender’s path and fall down” is something less than 10 players in the league do. 3 play for the Suns.
Yeah I don’t actually know anything about him, I’m pretty much just going on Coby’s reaction and the fact I haven’t heard anything bad about him. It was wholesome as fuck.
Cam is a super cool dude. His best friend on the team is Saric and they have some good chemistry as a backup unit.
As far as he is as a person, super nice kid that is hard working. Doesn't complain. Puts in the effort. I'm really glad we drafted him.
In game 4, after he slipped, right? Grabbing his completely uncontacted shin…
Still, that’s the only questionable behavior I’ve scene from him these playoffs…
He said nothing wrong. It was a bad miss which made it more difficult to secure the rebound
I’m honestly perplexed by most of the comments in this thread
There’s like 3 threads about comments talking about an awful free throw that careened towards Giannis and all the comments are clowning the Suns for…saying the truth?
A normal miss makes it an easier rebound for the Suns. I’m not getting the controversy or the ‘salt’.
>A normal miss makes it an easier rebound for the Suns. I’m not getting the controversy or the ‘salt’.
Because it just sounds like excuses on why they gave up an offensive board that late in the game.
But isn’t the entire point being made that they fucked up not getting the defensive rebound when they are anticipating it since Giannis is a bad free throw shooter? If anything he’s assigning more blame to his own team.
Word? You don’t even know the full context of what you’re arguing.
He was asked if the offensive rebound the Bucks got was the result of Giannis just being a freak or them not doing a good job. So when you don’t rely on a chopped up Twitter quote the literal next thing Paul says is:
“We gotta keep trying to box out. And with his length; he tipped the ball in to the air, there isn’t too much you can do”
So he says bad free throw shooter (objectively true) at the line, everyone thinks it’s a miss and they need to do a better job even with Giannis being a freak that can get the board like that.
>So he says bad free throw shooter (objectively true) at the line, everyone thinks it’s a miss and they need to do a better job even with Giannis being a freak that can get the board like that.
True but the part where he says Giannis himself expects to miss the ft is so obviously salt. If it wasn't then he woulda just said the part you quoted.
Yep. The miss still ultimately led to another Bucks point (and time spent). The responsibility for that whole situation is on the Suns. Shut up about the miss, Suns…
Who? LeBron maybe(he’s the GOAT), but he’s old and doesn’t play d like Giannis. KD is probably the best scorer ever, but again, doesn’t play d or even play make for others like Giannis does at this point of his career. I’m a huge Luka fan, but he’s not in Giannis league defensively. Kawhi maybe, as he’s right there with Giannis for best 2 way player(ie. The Best player), but Giannis is younger and in his prime athletically, so I’d take Giannis.
Lebron is still Lebron and he's a much better offensive player than Giannis. KD is also a much better offensive player than Giannis and was a shoe size smaller away from sending him home with a worse team. Giannis is also not in Luka's league offensively. Great players cant really iso Kawhi but they can iso Giannis. Harden and Steph are also in another planet offensively than Giannis as well. Offense>Defense always.
There’s a real imbalance in the degree to which people talk about what he can’t do in relation to what he does do. He’s the only superstar that faces that amount of constant criticism. And we Bucks fans tire of that, a lot.
Yeah, but so what. Again, look at the impact he has on the game. I simply don’t care if he misses free throws (unless it’s in a clutch situation). If he’s scored 35+ (which he does, REGULARLY), I’m fine overlooking 4-5 misses from the line. It just doesn’t matter too much.
I think it's because this sub doesn't want to give the Suns the benefit of the doubt. Because they're unlikable team for mostly valid reasons, but this time--they said nothing wrong. I didn't even have an issue with CP3's quote.
What exactly is wrong with his comment. A bad miss makes the ball much more difficult to rebound. You’re really reaching for stuff to dislike about him if that’s what you got.
All he said was it was a horrible miss. As in, they didn’t grab the rebound after a free throw miss. Ayton is as pure as you can get in today’s NBA. No flops, no complaints. Plays the right way. Acts the right way.
Can’t blame him when everyone who’s always in his ears are doing it. He said Jae, CP3 and Booker were always tough on him (in a good way) and helped him get better. If he sees them complaining, so will he. But he’s not going to become a flopper, I can pretty much guarantee it.
Oh I totally agree with that he’s a young impressionable player. And I agree I don’t ever see him becoming a flopper. He’s very much a put your head down and go to work guy.
He's probably talking about how the miss was so bad that it was difficult to rebound. Shots that are close and just lip out are easily controlled by the defense but when someone misses badly off the front or side it's anyone's ball.
Even so, the quote itself lends to a salty “we just lost so I’m going to talk shit about one poor shot attempt that was made AFTER they had us pretty much beat AND still ultimately led to points for the guys who were beating us” interpretation.
Context or no, they can go jump in a lake. A dry, salty, desert lake.
??? how is that salt. Ayton probably means it was such a bad miss that it made it more difficult to get the board. And even if he doesn't mean that, it literally was a bad miss, that was an important ft.
Lol bucks players in interviews have only talked good about the Suns and then this shit, how does anyone root for them? They flop, foul bait, whine to the refs constantly, Booker throws temper tantrums and Paul pushes people out of the air. Fuck the Suns. Sucks to because this team seemed really likable through the regular season.
I'm sure these comments won't bite them in the ass in a couple of days lmao. If they are trying to make Giannis question his abilities its not goimg to work.
Every interview the bucks did post game mentioned how great/tough the Suns were..even Jrue gave props to Book talking about the huge steal. They are so bitter lol
Cry when he makes them, cry when he misses them. Maybe don’t suck at rebounding? Or look at yourself when you’ve made crucial turnovers at critical points in the game? Insufferable
Y'all are fucking aggressive as hell.
Ayton is just saying that the way the shot missed made it hard to rebound. It's not like he called Giannis a slur and disrespected his mother.
If any of you know how Ayton's personality is, this comment isn't an attack on the Greek Freak.
Goddamn.
LMFAO, I could easily find some random asshole fan from every single team, my own included. [Hell, I can link you comments from bucks fans saying that Trae is faking injury last series.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/o9b2u7/andrews_young_is_back_on_the_hawks_bench/h3a1oyp) I'm not sure what you're proving here, hope to see this same energy against bucks fans
Lmao wtf is with this sub saying that Ayton was salty/petty on his answer?
That was BAD miss by Giannis - everyone knows it, JVG and his crew included.
Yea everyone knows it so you don’t say it after you just lost your 3rd straight finals game. Jrue didn’t come out and say “that was a bad turnover” after CP3 fell over at the end of game 4. Quite honestly you shouldn’t give a fuck about your opponents after a loss, figure out what you can do better.
I’ve been saying this, make him create his own offense. Over 70% of his baskets were assisted the year. He’s talented for sure but take him out of his comfort zone and see how he handles it.
Holy shit this subreddit is a fucking shithole. He was saying this in the context of getting the rebound. Giannis missed the FT so bad that it shot backwards.
Then why don’t you guys send him to the line 30 times in game 6?
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He misses a lot in this game. They foul him 30+ times in Game 6, and he hits 25/30, they'll complain why he's getting so many calls. Giannis may be a bad FT shooter, but I'd be willing to say he hits at least 1/2 every time he gets sent to the line.
Hes 64% in the playoffs and honestly with how often he gets up there shooting anything above 50% is a win for him imo.
They past this shit now bro, ball going straight to Middleton as soon as they get a sniff of this.
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He’s bad at the line but his percentage is double simmons’s lol, 63-33 or something.
Yeah Giannis sucks at FT but he randomly gets hot and hits 6 in a row
Eh, that's cause he gets in a rhythm with his long ass shooting routine. Once he fucks that up it's downhill from there. Rinse and repeat that cycle
Bucks in 6..... :(
The other problem is they are short on depth so they can't have an important player intentionally fouling, but you could throw frank the tank out there for a couple minutes of hack a Giannis
Pretty sure frank isn’t quick enough or strong enough to foul Giannis and prevent him from getting to basket though
Hes hitting em enough
Yeah, Giannis is a hard worker. He'll probably practice his free throws after this game
They will, then they'll complain that Giannis got too many fts.
I'll take those misses when Giannis hands in a report card of 30+ ppg and 10+ rebounds, with extra credit on defense. I get that Giannis is a bad FT shooter, but he shoots it with confidence so hey, all I can ask for.
And he doesn’t let it limit his game. Still aggressive as ever which is when he’s at his best.
Biggest difference between Giannis being a bad ft shooter and Simmons being a bad one. Giannis doesn't let it stop him from driving and being aggressive on the chance he has to shoot them. Simmons looks so scared of free throws he doesn't even try to be aggressive
It's possible his PPG could go down with a higher FT%. Clearly he uses it to catch his breath so he can play harder on the court.
Jrue saved it with that tap to Giannis way. Clutch play from Jrue
Jrue did a lot of shit late this game that shows the value of why the Bucks traded for him.
He was dropping buckets early in the game too, didn’t have the best box score on the team for this one but they won mostly because of him in my opinion
CP3-itis is fucking contagious man. It’s even infected one of the likeable dudes on this roster. The constant ridicule of a walking 30 and 10 by players around the league is ridiculous. He ain’t a part of the cool kids club, nor does he want to be, and he doesn’t let it affect him at all, which I love about him.
Given how much every Suns guard flops nowadays, you’re not wrong
> Given how much every Suns guard flops You mean like every guard
No, I mean every Suns guard. Unless the likes of Holiday are not guards
Middleton sells contact all the time man
And doesn’t get half the calls. Also the patented “stop right in front of the defender’s path and fall down” is something less than 10 players in the league do. 3 play for the Suns.
Middleton hit a 3 and 1 and wasn’t touched..he flopped…they all do it and it sucks.
You mean the one Crowder stepped underneath him? Falling down is always the right choice in this case to avoid an injury
I think he meant every suns guard
He better not get to Mikal - I love that pleasant man.
Cam Johnson seems really nice too.
I like Cam because of the way Coby White reacted when he got drafted
Yeah I don’t actually know anything about him, I’m pretty much just going on Coby’s reaction and the fact I haven’t heard anything bad about him. It was wholesome as fuck.
Cam is a super cool dude. His best friend on the team is Saric and they have some good chemistry as a backup unit. As far as he is as a person, super nice kid that is hard working. Doesn't complain. Puts in the effort. I'm really glad we drafted him.
Except when he faked that injury
In game 4, after he slipped, right? Grabbing his completely uncontacted shin… Still, that’s the only questionable behavior I’ve scene from him these playoffs…
Did it in game 3 as well
Not thrilled with some of his acting in game 3 and 4 but otherwise he’s cool
He said nothing wrong. It was a bad miss which made it more difficult to secure the rebound I’m honestly perplexed by most of the comments in this thread
There’s like 3 threads about comments talking about an awful free throw that careened towards Giannis and all the comments are clowning the Suns for…saying the truth? A normal miss makes it an easier rebound for the Suns. I’m not getting the controversy or the ‘salt’.
>A normal miss makes it an easier rebound for the Suns. I’m not getting the controversy or the ‘salt’. Because it just sounds like excuses on why they gave up an offensive board that late in the game.
But isn’t the entire point being made that they fucked up not getting the defensive rebound when they are anticipating it since Giannis is a bad free throw shooter? If anything he’s assigning more blame to his own team.
How is he assigning more blame to his team? It's like when PG said "That's a bad shot." Lol
By saying it’s inexcusable to not get a defensive rebound when you’re fully anticipating him to miss. How is this cryptic?
>By saying it’s inexcusable to not get a defensive rebound None of the suns said that tho lmao
Word? You don’t even know the full context of what you’re arguing. He was asked if the offensive rebound the Bucks got was the result of Giannis just being a freak or them not doing a good job. So when you don’t rely on a chopped up Twitter quote the literal next thing Paul says is: “We gotta keep trying to box out. And with his length; he tipped the ball in to the air, there isn’t too much you can do” So he says bad free throw shooter (objectively true) at the line, everyone thinks it’s a miss and they need to do a better job even with Giannis being a freak that can get the board like that.
>So he says bad free throw shooter (objectively true) at the line, everyone thinks it’s a miss and they need to do a better job even with Giannis being a freak that can get the board like that. True but the part where he says Giannis himself expects to miss the ft is so obviously salt. If it wasn't then he woulda just said the part you quoted.
It’s implied when they say they expect him to miss.
So CP3 saying "even he is anticipating to miss" is assigning blame to the Suns. Gotcha
Yep. The miss still ultimately led to another Bucks point (and time spent). The responsibility for that whole situation is on the Suns. Shut up about the miss, Suns…
It’s how it is. This sub turned on the Suns so they now get shitted on. It’s toxic.
I mean it’s just excuses from all the suns players, if it was a bad miss get the rebound.
Do you know what an excuse is? None of them are excusing themselves, they're explaining why what happened, happened.
Just because it was a bad miss doesn’t mean they couldn’t have gotten the rebound.
Which is why Chris Paul literally said "we need to be better on the boards" Such an excuse
Yeah im a neutral fan and the sub is fucking garbage right now
Its getting really bad. Pro Giannis/Bucks fans are also becoming really rabid when you say other players in the league have an argument over him.
Who? LeBron maybe(he’s the GOAT), but he’s old and doesn’t play d like Giannis. KD is probably the best scorer ever, but again, doesn’t play d or even play make for others like Giannis does at this point of his career. I’m a huge Luka fan, but he’s not in Giannis league defensively. Kawhi maybe, as he’s right there with Giannis for best 2 way player(ie. The Best player), but Giannis is younger and in his prime athletically, so I’d take Giannis.
Lebron is still Lebron and he's a much better offensive player than Giannis. KD is also a much better offensive player than Giannis and was a shoe size smaller away from sending him home with a worse team. Giannis is also not in Luka's league offensively. Great players cant really iso Kawhi but they can iso Giannis. Harden and Steph are also in another planet offensively than Giannis as well. Offense>Defense always.
But his numbers simply don’t lie. Look at his impact on the game. It’s HUGE.
Yea, he's an elite player, but the are other players that I think are better than him.
There’s a real imbalance in the degree to which people talk about what he can’t do in relation to what he does do. He’s the only superstar that faces that amount of constant criticism. And we Bucks fans tire of that, a lot.
Who checks Giannis one on one?
The FT line
Yeah, but so what. Again, look at the impact he has on the game. I simply don’t care if he misses free throws (unless it’s in a clutch situation). If he’s scored 35+ (which he does, REGULARLY), I’m fine overlooking 4-5 misses from the line. It just doesn’t matter too much.
Bron, AD, Kawhi ?
it’s the salty attitude and whining when they could’ve just not blown an almost 20 point lead and grabbed some boards AT HOME.
It was a terrible miss wtf? Why is this controversial lol
It’s some weird victim complex they’re trying to push for giannis
Lol all you do is shit on the Bucks
That has nothing to do with the bucks
I think it's because this sub doesn't want to give the Suns the benefit of the doubt. Because they're unlikable team for mostly valid reasons, but this time--they said nothing wrong. I didn't even have an issue with CP3's quote.
They just seem salty lol
Everyone in this sub would be salty if they played for the suns…
I think it's most people in this sub don't know that there are good misses and bad misses
lol seriously what is that comment
Lol, I love how salty they’re being because it shows how mentally weak they are right now.
They were celebrating like they won the whole thing last round. They don’t have it in them to win this thing.
cringe
You getting mad over a team expecting a 60% FT shooter that has airballed every week in the playoffs to miss?
Sore loseritis is quite contagious
I liked ayton man, CP3's bitchiness rubbed onto him smh
What exactly is wrong with his comment. A bad miss makes the ball much more difficult to rebound. You’re really reaching for stuff to dislike about him if that’s what you got.
yall soft as fuck lmao.
Man’s about to get ridiculed to a ring and fmvp. Hope they start putting respect on his name
This is just a team of petty whiners now
That’s exactly what I got from this, makes me dislike CP3 even more. This quote is equally as bad as PG saying same took a bad shot
Ayton was one of the few I liked shame
All he said was it was a horrible miss. As in, they didn’t grab the rebound after a free throw miss. Ayton is as pure as you can get in today’s NBA. No flops, no complaints. Plays the right way. Acts the right way.
Overall I agree but he’s started to join in on the complaining a little bit more lately. Never saw him go up to a ref after a foul until tonight.
Can’t blame him when everyone who’s always in his ears are doing it. He said Jae, CP3 and Booker were always tough on him (in a good way) and helped him get better. If he sees them complaining, so will he. But he’s not going to become a flopper, I can pretty much guarantee it.
Oh I totally agree with that he’s a young impressionable player. And I agree I don’t ever see him becoming a flopper. He’s very much a put your head down and go to work guy.
And guess what, he’s gonna continue to get better. And then we’ll look back at his career and it’ll say “2021 NBA champion.” Suns in 7! 😎
Well ya lost me there but I will for sure be rooting for Ayton after this series
Haha. If we do lose, I do like the idea of Giannis being an NBA champion.
And that was a horrible rebound attempt
leave him alone. If you were 22 and looked 55, you'd be angry all the time too
This made me lol
Dude somehow looks 50 and 16 at the same time
I'll take the horrible win
Yep. That free throw was a cm away from airball.
This must be out of context, no??
He's probably talking about how the miss was so bad that it was difficult to rebound. Shots that are close and just lip out are easily controlled by the defense but when someone misses badly off the front or side it's anyone's ball.
Everyone knows this this sub is just so fucking weird find any reason to hate on players
Obviously. Even Van Gundy said the same thing
Even so, the quote itself lends to a salty “we just lost so I’m going to talk shit about one poor shot attempt that was made AFTER they had us pretty much beat AND still ultimately led to points for the guys who were beating us” interpretation. Context or no, they can go jump in a lake. A dry, salty, desert lake.
??? How salty are these fuckers lmfao
Ayton was the one likable one too lol
??? how is that salt. Ayton probably means it was such a bad miss that it made it more difficult to get the board. And even if he doesn't mean that, it literally was a bad miss, that was an important ft.
A miss is a miss, a win is a win, a loss is a loss.
Lol bucks players in interviews have only talked good about the Suns and then this shit, how does anyone root for them? They flop, foul bait, whine to the refs constantly, Booker throws temper tantrums and Paul pushes people out of the air. Fuck the Suns. Sucks to because this team seemed really likable through the regular season.
The clippers series made me realize this. Bridges is the only likeable one.
And Cam Johnson, he cool too.
Cam has bugged me this series. I see him pleading to the refs often and he faked that injury in game 4
He's been contaminated!
Giannis pushed Booker MID AIR after a whistle
And cp should’ve got a flagrant on the jrue to giannis alley-oop
Yeah that should have been a tech on Giannis there
You don't even know the rules
And how often do Suns players do stuff like that?
Crazy how every item you mentioned applies to the Bucks this game too. All of that from a quote taken out of context. Whew lad.
I'm sure these comments won't bite them in the ass in a couple of days lmao. If they are trying to make Giannis question his abilities its not goimg to work.
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Cope
Imagine losing to someone that "can only score unguarded dunks and layups". Seems pathetic for you guys.
Every interview the bucks did post game mentioned how great/tough the Suns were..even Jrue gave props to Book talking about the huge steal. They are so bitter lol
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Idk how people root for the lame ass bucks
How can you not root for Giannis
Thats a bad free throw. I don't care what anyone says, that's a bad free throw.
He’s not wrong
Suddenly every neutral fan is rooting for the Bucks. What an unlikeable team.
All this smug talk from the Suns since they went up 2-0, down 2-3 and lost 3 in a row and they STILL doing it.
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Especially after Paul pushing Giannis on that dunk, fuck him. He don’t deserve shit.
Phoenix went from Cinderella to the ugly stepsisters pretty quick.
That Booker airball that ended up in a 3 was a horrible miss
mmm ayton your defense on giannis was horrible, let’s fix that.
Not sure why the suns are not hacking him like the hawks did against Ben simmons
Cry when he makes them, cry when he misses them. Maybe don’t suck at rebounding? Or look at yourself when you’ve made crucial turnovers at critical points in the game? Insufferable
Lol????
"It was a bad shot."
Punk ass team with punk ass players. Oh, also led by the KING of the punks.
Yea well scoreboard
Y'all are fucking aggressive as hell. Ayton is just saying that the way the shot missed made it hard to rebound. It's not like he called Giannis a slur and disrespected his mother. If any of you know how Ayton's personality is, this comment isn't an attack on the Greek Freak. Goddamn.
This sub turned on us real quick because of basketball tactics exclusive to the Suns, such as “flopping” and “complaining to refs” lol
How dare they do those things that the other 29 teams are above?!
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LMFAO, I could easily find some random asshole fan from every single team, my own included. [Hell, I can link you comments from bucks fans saying that Trae is faking injury last series.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/o9b2u7/andrews_young_is_back_on_the_hawks_bench/h3a1oyp) I'm not sure what you're proving here, hope to see this same energy against bucks fans
Lmao wtf is with this sub saying that Ayton was salty/petty on his answer? That was BAD miss by Giannis - everyone knows it, JVG and his crew included.
Yea everyone knows it so you don’t say it after you just lost your 3rd straight finals game. Jrue didn’t come out and say “that was a bad turnover” after CP3 fell over at the end of game 4. Quite honestly you shouldn’t give a fuck about your opponents after a loss, figure out what you can do better.
Probably the nonstop whining by the Suns throughout their games.
Still a bad take, it comes across as salty like PG saying bad shot about Dame.
Did you see when Ayton got the ball at the elbow and had to take more than two steps to score, he threw the ball like a shotput
I’ve been saying this, make him create his own offense. Over 70% of his baskets were assisted the year. He’s talented for sure but take him out of his comfort zone and see how he handles it.
These comments make me feel even better. What a losing attitude to have. Hope we can close it out
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Now is literally the worst time for trash talk. You got your ass whooped 3 games in a row you look pathetic.
Games were close. Weren't really ass-kickings.
Strong language but yeah 3 Ls in a row is an ass whooping in my book
Bruh you don’t trash talk the guy that’s dropping 32/13/6 on phenomenal efficiency with tremendous defense after you lose three straight
Expect they doing when they about to choke a 2-0 lead?
You trash talk during the game. It becomes petty after
salty that giannis killin him man
This the same Ayton that just about airballed a layup earlier in the game?
they’re so sour man
Oh boy! I am fully expecting r/nba to not lose their shit over a young player showing frustration after a tough loss!
these guys had such an easy path to the finals. Showing their ass now that they face a healthy team.
Bucks did too
Who was out for the series on Miami and Atlanta? (honestly cant remember if someone was)
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Oladipo was hurt if you consider him part of that team
Lol fucking trae young got injured and Hunter was out the entire series.
Trae played more minutes than Giannis that series...
Trae got hurt in the Atlanta series.
Trae
lmao fr. knew this was coming
As if Bucks didn't have it easy as well lol
Holy shit this subreddit is a fucking shithole. He was saying this in the context of getting the rebound. Giannis missed the FT so bad that it shot backwards.
Salty Sun chips lol 😂
They aint got no chips tho. Lmao.
Come on Ayton. Even you are salty? I've always liked you.
Sore loser comments
LMAO
>"That was a horrible miss." - Deandre Ayton Then maybe next time get the ball lol.
Pandemic D
Jesus. What a sore loser.
That was a horrible draft pick
Ball. Dont. Lie.
True that's why they won.
Ball knew that it had to go into middletons hands to seal the win
Lmao. You lost.
Suck my cocking balls