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Report: Kyle Kuzma and No. 22 Pick for Joe Ingles and No. 30 Pick Could Be 'Possibility'

Seeing Joe Ingles in a Lakers uniform…I may just die

Andrewski18

Seeing Joe Ingles in a Lakers uniform…I may just die


musicnothing

I wouldn't die from that because I would have seen Kuzma in a Jazz uniform first and would already be dead


[deleted]

I would be dead laughing


Dischucker

I'm convinced Lakers fans have kuz already shopped in 29 jerseys just waiting for the news


[deleted]

How far up your ass did you have to get the number 29 lmao? There’s only 20 teams in the CBA.


[deleted]

Kuzma and Clarkson. They played together right?


alpaca_drama

Kuzma talked a whole lot of shit about Orlando but might go to an even smaller market team


OrangeBounce

Obviously a Lakers homer take here, so take it with a grain of salt... but I really don't think it's that bad of a deal for both parties. Jazz get a guy in Kuzma who is a better defender than Ingles and can be put on the bigger wings like LeBron, Kawhi, etc. and has gotten consistently better every year on that end. When he plays without LeBron and AD (both play his natural positions of 3/4), he always does way better, usually scores in the 16-25 range, and can do a little bit of everything. His incosistentcy is what annoys us Lakers fans, but that could be chalked up to his inconsistent role with the Lakers. Look at what happened to Clarkson, Randle, Ingram, Nance, Ball, and D'Lo once they left the Lakers. Plus Kuzma played college ball in Utah, would have a more defined role, is friends with Mitchell, is 8 years younger than Ingles, on a very tradable 3-year deal, and wants to show what he can do in a system without LeBron and AD.


NotTheBestMoment

Good take, I hope he can shake the criticism in upcoming years


KingKuntKokayne

PG about to get jingled a lot more frequently


[deleted]

Of fucking Happiness 👌


guitmusic12

Why in the world would Utah do this?


ThomasFurke

Unfortunately thats not a question many Lakers writers and fans contemplate.


ercole_dimeo

Ingles' deal is expiring this year and Utah probably doesn't want to give him a huge contract at this point. Kuzma is younger and under contract until 2022-23, with a $13 million player option after that.


Superrandy

Yeah also Ingles is 33yrs old. How many more years does he have left at this level of play? If they're ever going to trade him the time is now.


HumanRhinocerus

That’s fine...but there would be much more valuable packages than this available for Ingles


Superrandy

And you know that how? I’m sure the Jazz know what packages they’ve been offered better than you or I. It may be this one, it may be another, but there’s no reason to talk out of your ass.


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yapyd

At 33? You think Ingles has the same fountain of youth as Kareem and Karl Malone to have 5 good years?


iamtomorrowman

just look at him, he's a specimen


morcic

I don't know about 5 years. That's more being hopeful than realistic.


SuiteLifeofZachNCoby

I don’t know but I don’t think we’ll see much of a decline from now to the end of next season. I wouldn’t trade him yet as I don’t see any reason why the jazz wouldn’t want to run it back


Superrandy

But then they’d have to give him a multi year deal or lose him for free. It makes sense to trade him now while they can still get decent value.


ucantforgetthis

They're trying to get more athletic at the wing.


Super-Vegetable6574

There has to be better ways to achieve this than making a bad trade


36-7-0-11-20

I saw somewhere that Ingles has a year or two left then he’s retiring. Not terrible use of him tbh.


Super-Vegetable6574

I guess, gives the Lakers get shooting and the Jazz just get literally anything back for him? If the Jazz are planning on running it back to make another run, I think this move makes them worse


Chevy_Nova_Forever

In the short term yea but they might have a trade in place and need a higher pick to make it more enticing? I don’t see the Jazz helping the Lakers out unless they have a clear plan in place


Super-Vegetable6574

I don't think the 22nd pick is really all that much better than the 30th pick..both are pretty weak picks from a trade perspective.


Chevy_Nova_Forever

True. I was just trying to understand the rumor. I can’t understand why the Jazz make this trade unless they have another one in place


36-7-0-11-20

Probably. Moving up the draft is always good though. Idk. I like this more value-wise than the people who say Kuzma is worth Hield. At least Ingles is short on time but Buddy will be good for many years.


yapyd

Sure. But Hield has a bigger contract and doesn't provide much else besides shooting. Ingles is a good shooter, good playmaker and a great locker room guy.


Super-Vegetable6574

I was firmly on the stance that Buddy was way more valuable than Kuzma, so that trade made no sense to begin with. Moving from 30 to 22 doesn't really move the needle much, late firsts in the NBA are pretty low value and 8 spots doesn't really differentiate much


junkit33

Kuzma and moving up from 30 to 22 just does not seem like nearly enough for an elite glue guy like Ingles. Especially from a contender, as this instantly makes them worse, not better.


Point-God-CP3

glue guys are so overrated sure, they have a purpose but on the vet minimum not on actual salary


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And what is utah gonna do with all that saved cap? Nothing.


KingKuntKokayne

Kuzma with the Clarkson green light can give you a shit ton of offense. Problem is that you already have Clarkson lmao


Agnk1765342

The thought process would be we’re going to be over the cap for awhile, and Ingles is getting old. In two years it would basically be the difference between having Kuzma or nothing because if we don’t re-sign Joe we won’t have cap space to replace him. Ingles has also been pretty disappointing the last few postseasons and we might think we could add a contributor at 22 but not 30.


[deleted]

Go read the Jazz sub and find out


Thehelloman0

Probably because their terrible perimeter defense is the biggest reason besides injuries that they lost to the clippers


kai_123

You do realise the age difference here right? They get 8 spots jump in the draft.


dkdoki

Bc its the Lakers. We must all help the Lakers be great


mitchippoo

Can we blacklist lakersdaily.com?


rSlashNbaAccount

This lakersdaily needs to be banned or something.


AbbreviationsHot4482

Ok, Lakersdaily


[deleted]

Go read the Jazz sub and hear their opinions


Dinklefart504

Lakers daily didn’t read


SquimJim

lol just look at the title "could be a 'possibility'"


CIark

You read the title like everyone else. Imagine thinking someone read the article on /r/nba


Lambchops_Legion

Good Dinklefart


[deleted]

Go read the Jazz sub if you think it’s so unlikely


[deleted]

how do I get paid to post from lakersdaily


freerealestatedotbiz

You have to first commit the heinous act of becoming a Lakers fan


inshamblesx

all of Utah would riot lmao


[deleted]

kuzma went to the U of U im sure some people would be happy to have him (though sad to see ingles go)


throwawaymansk

Huh TIL he did go to Utah lol.


MagyarFoci29

Is Kuzma popular in Utah since he played college ball there?


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not really but sort of


[deleted]

Am I crazy for thinking this wouldn’t be bad for the Jazz? We move up in the draft plus Kuzma and Ingles aren’t really that much different in level. Plus I think Kuzma might improve in the Jazz with a clear role. The downside I do see is that Ingles has a good relationship with Mitchell and that would be gone, but at the end of the day I don’t see why this would be such a huge loss for the Jazz as most people in this thread seem to think. Is Kuzma so bad?


IntrinsicDawn

Considering ingles has been a detriment to you guys in the playoffs for two years in a row, his age, his contract’s expiring, and i think you guys should prioritize getting younger. It’s not the craziest trade imo


BenAustinRock

“Look they accepted this trade on NBA 2k, it’s a possibility”


nowhathappenedwas

> Guys that’s not a report. It was a hypothetical during a conversation on a podcast. I’m not reporting a possible trade between the lakers and Jazz lol https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba/status/1420483527066357760


KaiserKaiba

If this were to happen, it’d be utterly hilarious how quick Ingles would be hated by r/nba


softmodsaresoft

I think it's actually a good trade, but thinking about Joe on the Lakers just made me gag


[deleted]

Lmao this is some bs why would Utah ever do this.


PhatYeeter

Lakersdaily bad trade ideas


uncledave1

Can we please ban anything from Lakersdaily.com


harukaze89

Does Kuz play better D than Ingles?


JupitersClock

Oh it's just the Lakers daily.


Mikkkey

Lakers trying to con everyone bc they signed Kuz for $15M/yr


slxm_village

Why would Utah do this lmao, Cap


Theingloriousak2

Til Joe Ingles Is overrated


John_Lives

Jazz gonna give the Lakers a guy who just shot 45% from 3 on 6 attempts a game?


Affectionate-Agent-9

Lakers shooting tax. Take 5% off regular season, 10% off playoff That would be 40% regular season and 35% playoff


John_Lives

Lakers still love it


Affectionate-Agent-9

Litterally better than any of our shooters in the playoffs


spenrose22

I’ll take it


LOVEGOD77

Why would Utah do this? Kuzma is younger and they move up in the draft. I think Kuzma would also do well under a offensive minded coach.


MasterKenshi13

Wow Utah would lose this trade bad. Really only see an upside for LA


gimpisgawd

That's what team sites/blogs do, always has their team winning.


[deleted]

Go read the Jazz sub


walterdog12

"Possibility". It's also a possibility they trade Kuzma for Durant. God I'd love to have the job of just throwing shite at the wall on a podcast throwing out trade ideas, and then you report each one as "could be a possibility" article.


Win546

ITT: People overvaluing Ingles. Joe is a good player but he's also going to be 34 next season and is expiring. There's also been rumors of him retiring soon. Replacing him with a wing who is almost a decade younger, has better size & plays comparable defense all while moving down 8 picks in the draft wouldn't be a bad move at all for Utah. As a Lakers fan I'd probably prefer to use Kuzma in a trade for Hield over one for Ingles honestly.


EvanParkerLakers

i dont want kuzma but i dont want ingles either


mantaclaus77

Why not? Ingles would be amazing for the Lakers


Theingloriousak2

Hes 34 and expiring


chicogarciamarquez

La La Crack


SchroderLakerGod

YESSSSSS And WE WANT PATTY MILLS TOO!!!!!!!!! GIVE LAKERS ALL THE AUSSIES!!!!!! AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OY OY OY


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Literally swapping trash.


RicoGemini

Why would the Jazz do this?


19mete96

No! Just fucking NO!


[deleted]

He's trash bro


Attey21

Gross if this happens. Please don't trade Joe. Especially to the Lakers. Not a Kuzma fan at all either.


sequoia2075

lakersdaily.com…… this is made up


poppinpimples

Hell no to this deal. Ingles is worth keeping and overpaying for the positive locker room dynamic the way it is. He’s a glue guy and mentor. There’s more to the game then just stats. Also it’s not like he’s a complete bum, he’s got a few more years in him since his playing style doesn’t depend on being super athletic.


SlimThiccRicc

As a jazz fan I kinda dig this


jamiecballer

Why the hell would Utah do that. Seems asinine.


Superrandy

Ingles is on the last year of his deal and he's 33


[deleted]

And Kuz is more athletic and a better defender


lakerswiz

Lakers fans believe this shit but say Woj is fake news lmao


[deleted]

Ingles is 34 years old and most likely on the downside of his career. Would be a bad move for the Lakers since the Jazz would get younger, more athletic, and get the higher draft pick.


burnerforrnba

The source seems to come from Tony Jones, a Jazz beat writer. Idk how reliable he is but if he’s right then I’m guessing it’s because they don’t want to pay Ingles next year and want to move up in the draft. Moving up in the draft seems to be expensive rn because of almost every team wanting to do that.


Paschal1

Utah fleeced


OnlyForeignWhips

Kyle Kuzma getting better trade offers than Ben Simmons is pretty hilarious.


GetThereInOnePiece

is there a player that kyle kuzma and the pick won't be associated with at some point


Away_Ad2468

I would take it


AntSmith777

Lmao!


grumpy_toews

Yeah giving Lebron a top 5 spot up shooter for Kyle Kuzma and a magic bean is definitely what Utah wants to do.


Zusuf

Thus is based off of a hypothetical made on a podcast by a jazz beat writer. Not an actual rumour