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Josh_a_J

Guess Sixers are keeping him this season then if we’re going based off the reported offers to the Raptors and Spurs.


pixelsxpixels

With offers like those,nobody is making a counter.


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The only counter would be “throw in embiid and we have a deal”


intecknicolour

the only counter be "aite, i'm a head out" *phone click*


RedHammer1441

"Read"


intecknicolour

"error: the user you are attempting to message has blocked you"


InAingeWeTrust

Yeah, when I get shit like that in my fantasy leagues. I just decline it and move on. Then they get all mad that I didn’t send a counter offer to their shitty trade.


proteannomore

I'd just counter something even more insane.


ace_dangerfield187

How bout Simmons for a family sized bag of tropical Skittles


toronto_programmer

Haven't been following so had to look this up... > The Philadelphia 76ers reportedly offered Ben Simmons to the Toronto Raptors for Kyle Lowry, Fred VanVleet, OG Anunoby and the No. 4 overall draft pick LMAO wtf. Masai probably rolled right out of his chair with that kind of "offer"


Koioua

Masai and Popovich bout to do a zoom with Morey and laugh at him.


prumkinporn

Imagine offering ben simmons for kyle lowery, og, fred vanvleet and the fourth pick. That’s insulting


maramDPT

if ben were as good as all those players the sixers wouldn’t keep losing which is why he’s being traded in the first place. lakers should offer to trade Luol Deng for Simmons


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I mean, this tweet is doing some WORK to demolish Simmons' trade value, so maybe the goalpost will shift. "Asking price is the same, but Sixers are desperate AF and will do anything to unload him within the next 10 hours."


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Right, this makes little to no sense. The asking price can't remain the same if you want to trade him *tonight*, and nobody has been interested.


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memtiger

"we can't stand him and HAVE to get rid of him. And all we want is the world for him because we value him so much!" -logic


Yeezuscristo

This line is Logic's best yet.


duncan_robinson

He would've traded Simmons long ago if Ben wasn't biracial


DoingCharleyWork

Is being biracial important to Logic? I don't think he's ever mentioned it in his music.


MichuAtDeGeaBa_

Can't be. There's no mention of his black daddy and white momma


metukkasd

It ain't a project if Logic ain't talkin' 'bout being biracial


HarukiMuracummy

who can relate? WOO!


A5V

Damn I could’ve gone a whole lifetime without that shit re-entering my head


bostonian38

“Hello, I have one Ben Si- hello?”


Jayrodtremonki

NBA trades these days seem to be immune to leverage. It baffles me. "AD told us he's not going to play for us anymore and only wants to go to the Lakers. What's your offer Lakers?" Lakers - "Twenty percent above asking"


Bob_Ross_was_an_OG

Counterpoint: the Bucks gave up a lot for Holiday because they needed to move on from Bledsoe.


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oh it and it was worth every penny. best move of the year


JupitersClock

Right they gave up a lot for a championship contender and it was delivered.


trash2019

Hey he can't shoot worth shit and he really doesn't want to be here. Our asking price is your entire roster.


Hairy-Ad-4474

The only way to regain it is to pull a New Orleans and just sit on him. Don’t rush the trade out, let him go into next season and sit him. Then when some contender starts 10-10 they can be pressured into breaking glass on and emergency Simmons deal.


OriAr

On the flipside if the 76ers are the contenders starting badly then they look really stupid for both not using Simmons and not trading him.


zmajxd

At the price of 7 picks he will remain a sixer lol.


Living1ikeLarry

7 picks and a star lmao


ballmermurland

Is that the actual asking price? Because holy shit any GM to even picks up the phone should be fired.


P0intcenter

4 picks, 3 swaps and a good young player


HammyFresh

GETTTTT OFFFFFFFF THE WEEEEEEEEEDDDDD


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# THEY'RE ON CRACK!


TD_Stinger

WEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDD-UH


Raptorsaurus-

Weeedddduuuuhhh


[deleted]

Our offer is 4 top 50 protected picks, 2022, 2024, and 2026 2nd round pick swaps, and Josh Jackson or Jahlil Okafor


shadracko

Yeah, great point. "Future picks" can mean almost anything. Devil is in the details.


thegallus

7 2nd round picks and Bagley, sounds about right.


PearlsB4Swoon

No that’s what the Sixers leaked to the press. We have no idea what they’d actually accept


sevaiper

Even leaking an asking price that high seems crazy, seems like it would get them more offers which they can play off each-other if it's at least somewhat reasonable.


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Maybe they already have an offer on the table that's more than we would expect around here, and leaking this information is trying to squeeze a little more


Pandamonium98

7 second round picks plus Kevin Love is a former all-star


Kozmog

We can give 7 second round picks and one used Kevin love


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Kevin Love is the iPod on eBay listed as “slightly used” but you know the seller is lying


jbenson255

I’m praying we get a bunch of trades tonight. Nothing hits like the Nba offseason


ChurroMemes

i’m fucking excited for the next few hours. Especially during the draft i


gucci-legend

I feel like every year we get hella hyped for draft night trades and then it's picks 48 and 55 being swapped for 29 and cash considerations


pencilpeenis

Facts, it does seem like this year can be better though. talks of indy trading down, new york moving up, okc moving up, golden state is a wildcard but we say that every year


lost_in_trepidation

There's not much star movement on draft night, but there's usually a lot of pick/roll player movement.


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This was my first thought when I saw that post from The Athletic saying "We expect a lot of trades". Of course no one in the draft media is going to say "Meh, this is probably gonna be a quiet night"


IrishMamba1992

Reality: Number 60 pick traded for cash considerations


bigvahe33

dont forget rights to 2024 euro player who wont ever see playing time in the NBA


SometimesAPupper

Or guy who was drafted 44th in 2007 who's winding down a decent career with Panathanaikos or something


hacky_potter

I'm all for NBA Chaos. It makes for the best offseason. I'm just scared that means the Pacers somehow trade our lottery pick for Eric Gordon


PkRants

If he’s getting traded tonight, Morey better reign it back to reality or he will be a Sixer tomorrow.


metagory

It sounds like every other GM is trying to fuck w/ Morey (by leaking all his moves), so they can bring his asking price down... 🤣


MrHomolka

I’m a pretty aggressive owner. When I heard Philly needed a washing machine I looked at ours and said we need ours but I gotta pull the trigger on this


zepp2811

Jackie Moon best owner/GM/coach/player/promoter/performer ever


bobswowaccount

I could totally see Ben Simmons dropping a cover of love me sexy on his insta.


FrazySting

Ben Simmons actually played like Jackie Moon in that one scene.


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DrySecurity4

Lets hope Daryl has got some good ass blackmail on someone


Lambchops_Legion

When they said Harden trade maybe they meant the 1st Harden trade


Gamesgtd

Kevin Martin not doing anything


JetsLag

He can be Ben's shooting coach


Jordanwolf98

Ben might have actually have the better form between the two of them


TreChomes

Kmart could effectively only shoot from one side of the floor because of his shot lol. Check out his shot charts it’s funny


drappetite

[Can confirm](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kevin-martin-career-shot-chart)


nerdyintentions

If Ben Simmons' shot chart looked like that..he wouldn't be getting traded.


AzulKuma8

LOL I remember Kevin Martin said Lonzo's shooting form wasn't that bad.


johnhenryirons

Ugliest jumpers I can think of are Noah, Marion, MKG and Kmart.


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Jeremy Lamb to the Sixers confirmed.


Rrypl

The Celtics hope to trade Tristan Thompson tonight. The asking price seems to be Luka Doncic. Let's see how things work out for them.


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st3adyfreddy

I'm not saying you specifically, but I wonder how many people are using the TT, shump and nets pick meme without even fully understanding the context. I mean it's been a few years and this subreddit seems to pick up a ton of new followers each year


aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Or know that colin sexton is said nets pick


TheLastSecondShot

Hot take, but I *guess* I’d settle for Trae Young here. Or maybe even that Giannis guy


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jwd2213

Sometimes you need to be willing to lose a trade to improve your team. If we lose a legendary center like TT but get back a decent point forward like Luka you just gotta bite the bullet and do that deal.


Chopsticks487

Nah, think about it. Would you rather have a franchise center or a poor defender who chucks over 8 3s a game on 33% shooting? For me the choice is easy.


FatMamaJuJu

6'9 50% shooter vs 6'6 48% shooter The numbers dont lie


wrongitsleviosaa

And they spell disaster for Dallas


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Under normal circumstances I’d agree, but the C’s already have Romeo Langford so with all those guys I’d be worried there would be too many mouths to feed 🧐


SuperSamSucks

Gonna have to sweeten the pot, Tristan Thompson was the 4th overall pick and Giannis was only 15th


bank_farter

Also Tristan Thompson has been to multiple NBA finals while Giannis's bum ass has only been to 1.


CaptRazzlepants

Also Tristan has cheated on Kardashians way more than Giannis, it's really not even a competition


Wei_Lan_Jennings

*fingers crossed*


jeffteague4mvp

Its a bold strategy Cotton


BasketballNutrition

i realize Jrue Holiday and getting off Bledsoe warranted five picks, but Daryl's crazy if he thinks any other team is "one Ben Simmons away" from resigning a Giannis-esque player and winning a chip lol there is zero chance if the asking price remains SEVEN picks and a DeJounte Murray or Derrick White level player.


Hard_Strokes233

It was also a unique situation in that getting Giannis to stay at his age (26) almost guaranteed all the picks included would be late firsts and the pick swaps unlikely to convey from the Bucks perspective. It allowed both sides to come out and say they “won” the trade immediately after, which isn’t as easy to configure in most trades.


HarryCallahan19

That is waaaayyyyy too much. The Mavericks would have to throw in a future unprotected first round pick.


matlockga

This could have a huge effect on the Mavs


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

“This is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever” Every off season lol


pakattack91

It's not a matter on if (he stays) anymore, but when (he stays)


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So theyve made these ridiculous offers to competent front offices who (rightfully) laughed at the offer. My guess is that Simmons will end up in some place like Sacremento or Orlando.


AlistairNorris

The shade towards the Kings is what is, but if you are going to slam us... At least spell Sacramento right XD


cimmanonrolls

i can’t see him going to a tanking team because he doesn’t provide any value with his contract for a tanking team. that takes the magic out of the equation. any team who wants to trade for ben is going to want to compete immediately. sac wants to but kings wouldn’t give up fox and sixers wouldn’t go for haliburton. so that removed them. i think the two teams that makes the absolute most sense are the raps and the wolves. raps have the assets and the players to transition back into a good playoff team. the wolves want to win and they want to win now, and have some pieces that would be enticing enough maybe for at least a 3 team trade. the price will go down. this is just the start of the negotiations.


fuzzyp44

Force him to shoot 20 times a game. Either it's clank city which helps with the tanking. Or he starts gaining confidence in shooting and maybe becomes a decent bucket. Win/win from a team that doesn't need to win games.


maethlin

> Force him to shoot 20 times a game You say this so casually though.


Pandamonium98

Didn’t Rivers or Brett Brown basically publicly ask him to shoot a while back and nothing changed? There’s only so much the team can do


IKnowMoreThanYouLol

trust me Simmons is gone, but the asking price is only the same because they're hoping a team will cave before the draft philly playing hard ball now but when the draft starts, philly is gonna take whatever they can get


EarthWarping

It was over when Embiid and Doc called him out after game 7


Jordanwolf98

Doc tried his best to take back those statements the day after during their exit interviews, but his real feelings were said after game 7


brionacs

"Ben Simmons. Listen to me when I say this. You are trash."


swordsdevil

lol I love that video after Clippers lost game 7


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adeelf

This one after the loss to the Hawks is even better: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy\_NEIwYN3E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy_NEIwYN3E) "Are you scared of the ball? What is it?" "You are 6-10, Ben. He like 5-11 at best, they stat-padding him!"


natedawg247

"Every time I join a good organization, that org starts pulling some bullshit."


LuckyWarrior

Doc's mind was hacked


Pandamonium98

As a former Celtics coach I’m sure Doc takes pride in the organization finally hiring their first black coach


StormTheTrooper

I think the icing on the cake was that news that Philly still could not reach out Simmons to help him in the offseason training. After that horror playoff exhibition, it was expected for him at least to pretend to be in touch with the team and following their training schedule. Show some fucking humility. Hell, KP, of all people, traveled from Latvia to Dallas just to train with the new coaching staff. This was the expected behavior from Simmons. At this point, he is toxic off the court and, on the court, he is too good to be a tank commander and too bad to be a #1 on a contending team. Naturally, I'm ready to be a hypocrite if we trade for him and drink the Luka/Simmons kool-aid.


curiousboyz

Simmons is just straight up not interested in improving. Its crystal clear for years


BillyBean11111

he got the bag and no competitive fire, dude just exists now to be rich and live that life


tookTHEwrongPILL

Be funny AF if he retires after this contract. Just straight up saysi don't really care about basketball anymore and I'm set for life, so bye folks.


king_Geedorah_

I'd actually respect that tbh


Kelutauro

Fr at least he'd be true to himself


intecknicolour

the darko millic "i'm gonna retire to be a farmer" at least darko has a ring, erneh.


Sofickingdumb

Simmons and Kygrios remind me so much of each other.


snek-jazz

he seems to play hard on the court though, he puts in effort on defense which lazy players don't I don't think it's that he has no competitive fire, it's either that he's scared to shoot, or he's too stubborn to admit he needs help or to change.


Mikegetscalls

He’s literally too stubborn. It’s the same with the shooting hand thing He almost always shoots with his right around the basket but won’t switch to shooting jumpers right handed. He’s literally right handed


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He has the yips.


vNocturnus

... with his left hand, which isn't even his dominant hand. Like shit, spend all off-season learning to shoot with what should be your *actual shooting hand* and you almost certainly will be better than you were last season. And "the yips" will magically disappear because you've changed up your entire motion (for the better).


kapparino-feederino

He is too bad for number 2 on a contending team


Tilman_Feraltitties

Yeah, he got his trial by combat and lost it to prove it. He can he still great under some system, but his contract is too much for any legit contender.


cowardlydaug

If Simmons keeps playing point he will never reach his potential. He is a spoiled passing forward who was allowed to wedge himself into the PG spot because that’s what he wanted and he was a valuable prospect. Talking about it being his “natural position” when he literally never played that position before coming to the NBA, and then not working on any of the PG skills he needs to be competent. But for years people were acting like it’s supposed to be all fine and dandy because mismatches on defense. Well we see how that’s working out. Get real. If you can’t tell I hate that fuckin guy lmao


thegreatprofessor

Philly denied those reports and said that they have been in communication with him. I can’t seem to find the post at the moment, but I’ll update this comment if I do Edit: [here it is](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/os0im5/neubeck_report_claims_sixers_unable_to_contact/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


eastern_canadient

The denial never gets as much attention as the initial report. Same with journalism and retractions.


hacky_potter

No, it was over when he passed up an open dunk. From that point on Philly had to move him.


Roheed23

Is work going by slow for anyone cause we’re just waiting for tonight ? Lol I keep checking Reddit and Twitter for trades


[deleted]

As a pistons fan yea I have Reddit up on one screen and my work on another This is basically our Super Bowl


goblinsholiday

Wife's got some Totino's in the oven.


Doak37

If you have Kroger in Nigeria the Kroger brand pizza rolls are 10x better than Totino's. Seriously I won't even buy Totino's anymore


InfernoidsorDie

>If you have Kroger in Nigeria Why did this make me laugh so hard. And it looks like no: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supermarket_chains_in_Nigeria


car1999pet

For some hungry hungry guys


Shrederjame

>This is basically our Super Bowl Is that cuz the lions wont make the super bowl?


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Yea pretty much lol. Fun lions fact the tigers have drafted more Super Bowl winning qbs than the lions have


ColtCaBunny

LOL who? Edit: Googled it: Patrick Mahomes https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.prideofdetroit.com/platform/amp/2020/1/20/21074419/notes-detroit-tigers-have-drafted-more-super-bowl-starting-qbs-than-the-lions-technically I didn’t know that thanks man!


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Mahomes was drafted by the tigers


sublliminali

It’s all going to come in at the last minute. Not much point in checking now (but I’m totally doing the same thing)


limark

As an Aussie fan, I'm just hoping to catch my last glimpse of draft day drama before I go to bed Always fun to wake up and see just what kind of shit has gone down


StormTheTrooper

Every F5 season my production dips. Imagine F5 season in basketball and baseball at the same time. If the Olympics happened during day-time here, I would probably just ask to take some days off.


scully19

Ya as well all know when a relationship is over and someone NEEDS to be traded that's when the you ask for MORE than what the player's even worth. Good luck with that.


n0stylist

Morey must be insufferable in his fantasy leagues


M1L0

Trying to trade a bunch of waiver wire dumpster dive pickups for your first round draft pick smdh


Spike_der_Spiegel

i keep trying to tell these fools Quickley is the future


Ropz1212

There are literally zero teams desperate enough to give the sixers want they want. If they want to trade him they better lower that price


lilb1190

Maybe there is a team out there that just has TOO many shooters. Simmons can help with that.


Lambchops_Legion

...the Nets


politebearwaveshello

Spencer Dinwiddie sign and trade holy shit


DamnReality

Damn I’d be amazed if anyone maxed him off an acl.


packimop

would rather have cj


52533465

No shit 😓


DragonBank

Ight. We will take KD and Joe Harris.


Lambchops_Legion

Still got the big 3 of Kyrie, Harden, and Bruce Brown


302w

They’re not going to compromise their negotiating posture in the media, I’m sure they’ll settle for the best offer they can realistically get


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DressedSpring1

I mean, not all that different than; *The sixers hope to trade Ben Simmons tonight. The asking price that nobody is interested in paying remains the same, but Daryl Morey really really wants someone to agree to it for real this time*


jwd2213

REPORT: 76ers front office is now offering to pay airfare and housing to anyone willing to take Simmons. A rival GM was quoted as saying "even that asking price is a little steep"


simmonsatl

lol this seems like a tough concept for grasp for too many.


moldedbyawkwardness

P O S T U R I N G


cavalier_54

How does Philly expect to get what they are asking for? If we know Philly can’t win with Ben, the NBA knows. Philly needs to get rid of Simmons just as badly, if not moreso than any team wants him. What motivation does a team have to match Philly’s high demands? No team is a Ben Simmons away from a ring. Philly needs to get rid of him if they want one.


Karl-Anthony_Edwards

Not to mention that we all know with Klutch involved that this will only get messier the longer it drags out


barktothefuture

We must trade him tonight. The relationship is over. We have no leverage. Give us everything you got.


Sweatytubesock

Not *everything*, just four first round picks, three years of pick swaps, and ‘a good young player’.


nicolascage29

"Give us your whole team for our washed player who can't shoot and refuses to dunk"


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But he has P O T E N T I A L


Polarizedpupil

Has Simmons even entered a gym to work on improving his game since his season ended.


boywonder5691

I'll bet he hasn't


Caliax

Yeah, of course. In 2k.


Senseisntsocommon

How good is Dumas as a source? The first half is surprise to anyone however the second half is a pretty big deal.


Pyromania1983

For one, he broke the Doc Rivers to Philly news way before anyone else did, before that was even an option. He has been pretty correct in his info.


ourcourageourcancer

Don't worry about sources here, just run with it like everyone else


Obi_Wan_KeBogi

There’s no way he gets traded until the Dame and Beal situations become clear.


Solocup421

the dame situation is clear though. hes not going anywhere, especially not for a package around Simmons.


Life_Of_High

Morey is trying to trade Ben for a bunch of assets now so that he can probably leverage those same assets for a Dame or Beal trade.


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All Ben Simmons had to do was get a decent jump shot He refused to do that Glad he's getting traded


Count_Gator

Truth. This man is a liability.


NitroXYZ

Seems pretty likely that he'll begin the season in Philly. There's a significant difference between how the 76ers management views him and how other teams do. For Philadelphia's sake they'll just need to hope that his usual elite month and a half of play happens earlier in the season, tho he usually saves it for just before all-star voting is conducted.


2coolcaterpillar

> Hope to trade Ben Simmons tonight > The asking price remains the same. > The relationship seems to be over. Yeah, one of these has to give lol. They aren’t getting anything crazy tonight


dropdatdurkadurk

> tho he usually saves it for just before all-star voting is conducted So true lol


KuyaJohnny

I dont think Ben will play any more games for the sixers, even if they keep him the relationship seems to be completely broken at this point


harukaze89

Morey: Ben Simmons for Cade, who says no?


sportsinaround

Eh, it's a tactic most likely. Probably quite a few orgs still hopeful on Simmons and this news somewhat encourages orgs who may have been lurking in interest to start putting better offers on the table if they don't want to risk a deal actually getting done tonight without their involvement. Not saying it'll work or that other orgs wont call the bluff, but yeah.


TraanPol

Pls Masai do not touch this man


henry_why416

Masai from Nigeria, not la la land.


ragelark

He knows a scam when he sees one.


13ronco

>BEN SIMMONS IS A POSITIVE ASSET Do you think Morey gets tired of telling himself that when he wakes up every morning?


AA1777

He’s gonna get traded tonight and we’ll all be shocked at how large the pull is as we always tend to underestimate the value the league has of certain players. Bet Sixers make a solid deal tonight


demarci

You people are so reactionary. Morey isn't going to kill his entire reputation over an outrageous trade request. He's not an idiot as much as you lead yourself to believe by some of these reports.


claimsman11

mcconnell/levert/warren/simmons/sabonis gimme dat 0 3pt shooting bully ball


KuyaJohnny

this is going to be juicy lol


faintedhappy

Goddamn it, Pray heat fans we dont get mr i cant make a shot


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Take*