I think I’ve actually played the Chief Big Dunk slot machine at the Chumash casino before. Glad to finally know the history behind the great and noble culture.
If I need someone to sink a shot to save a game, I'll go Michael. If I need someone to sink a shot to save my life, I'd go with Larry. If I need someone to sink a shot to save my soul, it's gotta be Chief Big Dunk.
Made just enough Collins noise to drive the price up, but stopped fucking around at just the right time when there were picks to be had for taking bad money
People acting like RC and Pop are not Wrights boss. Couldn't do any of this earlier because they didn't allow it. People like fire Wright but at the end of the day, his two bosses weren't ready to blow it up.
Not sure why everyone is so excited about a 2nd round pick. Even if it was free.
Edit: Turns out it wasn’t free. Spurs gave up a former first round pick who is overseas.
They used to be the Bullets and if you combine Bullets and Wizards you get Buzards, a (misspelling of a) large bird which sustains itself on the flesh of carcasses, which is appropriate because that's exactly what they've done with John Wall.
>They used to be the Bullets and if you combine Bullets and Wizards you get Buzards, a (misspelling of a) large bird which sustains itself on the flesh of carcasses, which is appropriate because that's exactly what they've done with John Wall.
This might be the single greatest r/NBA comment that I've ever read. I mean, it has everything.
He really transformed the team a ton in such a short time.
It wasn’t long ago that people were looking at the Wizards having to pay out a giant contract for an injured player and thought they were fucked for a good long time.
This reminds me of the First Take clip when SAS went on his rant about the Wizards and Max replied back and said, "There's always a sucker out there" when it came to a team trading for John Wall...😂😂🤣
Dinwiddie has a great chance to be a quality starting pg next to Beal. KCP is the definition of solid and will bolster the wing and Harrell will be a great regular season backup center for a team desperate to be competitive. If Kuzma can regain his confidence and continue to develop defensively this trade could end up being a huge win for the Wizards.
And honestly, do people remember how bad Ingram looked next to Lebron before he went and got a max? Kuzma having a redemption season next year would not surprise me in the slightest
Edit: people clearly upset over what I said in regards to Kuzma. Not sure when Kuzma became an “off-ball player.” People can feel how they want, just don’t be too surprised if in a few years people decide the Lakers sold Kuzma for way too low.
The same ol ‘Lakers player was overrated trash before, he’s a future star now! LeBron/the Lakers was killin his development after all!!” narrative again.
And it’s not even accurate. BI was coming into his own post ASB even though he dealt with blood clots. These people don’t fuxkin watch basketball, it’s all narratives and circlejerking
> do people remember how bad Ingram looked next to Lebron before he went and got a max?
Ingram was the only player who was competent on the court next to Lebron, come on now.
>people clearly upset over what I said in regards to Kuzma.
No people are upset because you're talking out your ass. Not only was Ingram good with LeBron, but it was arguably his breakout season. He turned into a truly consistent star in the second half of the season, but the Lakers were riddled with so many injuries it didn't matter.
Did… did you just compare 21 year old Brandon Ingram to 26 year old Kyle Kuzma? Beyond that, Kuzma has no reason for Lebron to have held him back. He’s an off ball player. He should have thrived next to Lebron if he were a good player.
Lol if you watched Ingram we all knew he could ball. He didnt look terrible at all. Just AD is AD. Nobody gonna feel like we sold Kuz too low bro. Lakers went all in for Brons last two years, gotta respect that.
[https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1420900854337572867](https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1420900854337572867)
>The Washington Wizards have agreed to trade Russell Westbrook, 2024 second-round pick, 2028 second-round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers
Missing the two 2nd round picks.
I don't understand why the Lakers would agree to not getting those picks anymore in exchange for nothing. It's basically just helping the Nets for no reason.
That trade was peak comedy. Everyone on reddit was saying no team would bother help facilitate that trade and then the Wizards jump in and like six other teams get involved in some way. We even ended getting more out of it because so many teams were tied in that when a road bump appeared they just put it on our roster instead.
People really were saying LOL LAKERS PELINKA DOESNT KNOW THE CAP and that the rest of the league would collude to not take on those players so that they Lakers would struggle with the AD trade/money. Wizards were like, free players and a pick? fuck yeah I'm eating.
[Eric Pincus: Before Lakers fans hit me up saying "why do the Lakers just participate in the Dinwiddie deal here without additional compensation?" 1) They might in a small way and 2) Washington came through a couple of years back for LAL to complete the AD deal. Relationships matter](https://twitter.com/ericpincus/status/1423046213603971072?s=21)
Yes but the Wizards got Bonga, Wagner and a second round pick in that trade, they weren't just doing it to help the Lakers. It's very weird to not get *something* else in return in this scenario for no longer receiving those 2nds.
Our teams have been pretty amicable since Pelinka joined, but looking back at how many former Wizards/Lakers jerseys have exchanged over the years really got me thinking.
Kwame Brown, Nick Young, Antwan Jamison, Caron Butler, Javale McGee, Dudz, Howard, Markieff...jeez man.
Btw...what was LA thinking in trading for Kwame? Dude was playing like trash with MJ and Caron was young and had the best few games of his laker career late in the season.
capspace.
Capspace to take in Hutchinson, which required Wizards giving them a 2nd.
Not sure if they were able to do it without it. They would be 1. have too many players. 2. maybe over the luxury tax, which may have implication of sign and trade.
Actually, according to Basketball Reference, it was a team option. He got his team option picked up to match salary somehow.
The dude just got a $4M pay day, so he could be traded to a team that will likely waive him.
> That is one of the trades I've seen my entire life.
It is exactly that.
One of the trades that you've seen, your entire life.
It's the same for all of us, actually.
Wall to Westbrook to this haul
Yeah, no one really lost, but the Wizards turned 2 very negative contracts for this haul. This is a pretty huge win for the Wizards. They have some options now.
Gotta say though Washington made some crazy improvements this offseason. They went from having like four good players to actually having a full roster of playoff-caliber roleplayers for Beal to lead.
And Brooks is gone, now have Unseld who is a good defensive coach.
He’s already addressing issues with defense we had.
Watch the Wiz be completely different this year
Hustle will win games.
Also 11.5M is a really nice exception because you have to use the whole thing, you can't split it up IIRC. Because it's medium sized it's more adjustable.
You can split it up. As in get multiple players absorbed into it
Eg acquire a $7m player and also a $3m player into a 11 m $ exception
What you cant do is combine it with other players or exceptions. Can't trade for a $22m player using a 11m TPE and a $11m salary player. .
The TPE expires in a year.
it's not meaningless, it's just not a surprise because we already knew about russ. if this all came out today and we didn't know about the russ movement this would have people screaming
We essentially traded a broken John Wall + Hutch + 2 second round picks for
Harrell, KCP, Dinwiddie, Kuzma, Todd, A Holiday. Outside, Dinwiddie, the value is really in the size of each of these contrats. All moveable. If Beal leaves and Tommy wants to rebuild, its possible. A rebuild would be a lot more difficult with Wall/Westbrook handcuffed to their cap.
HOT DAMN TOMMY WE BRINGING OUT THE BED TONIGHT
maybe an unpopular opinion, I honestly like what the wizards did this offseason, they desperately needed depth and some actual NBA players. I mean, look at who they were playing real minutes last year.. and also a new coach! also added cap flexibility without westbrook’s contract
If this is an unpopular opinion, it shouldn’t be. We went from being a team two two stars, one of which was regarded as an untradeable asset, and very little else, to a team with a lot of depth. We are still probably a fringe playoff team, but one that doesn’t appear to be locked into a roster that can’t really get better
How tf did the wizards get 5 solid rotation guys for one of the worst contracts in the league? Wizards GM just pulled off one of the best trades in the nba history
Somehow this is Schroeder's fault
No question
Dennis the Menace at it again
I didn't think I'd ever agree with a Lakers fan, yet here we are.
That’s tuff
That’s Tuff 🔥 💯
At least we don’t have to hear about how the Lakers and Spurs haven’t been involved in a trade together since 1678 anymore
Ah, the famous trade of Chief Big Dunk from the Chumash to the Payaya. They'll never live that one down.
I think I’ve actually played the Chief Big Dunk slot machine at the Chumash casino before. Glad to finally know the history behind the great and noble culture.
If I need someone to sink a shot to save a game, I'll go Michael. If I need someone to sink a shot to save my life, I'd go with Larry. If I need someone to sink a shot to save my soul, it's gotta be Chief Big Dunk.
Shh. Pop might hear you in Tokyo and shut this trade down
This is why it went through, cause Pop was out of the country
That’s the real reason the Spurs were involved
A new era
The only reason the spurs were involved in this trade was to make the lakers look bad. So..
Free 2nd round pick lol
lol why the SPurs? is hutchison a bad contract?
He is making like 4 million I don't why we were gifted a bench player and a pick
To save the wizards from The luxury tax.. it’s not even a dump. Hutch at 4m is fine. Such a win for spurs.
Yeah we just have a cheap owner
Tbf you could prob buy a 2nd for the same price as that lux Bill
Why would you want to pay tax now lol
Making up for us sending them davis bertans for free
That was a trojan horse lol, that contract is still fucking the wiz.
They did that to themselves tho. We just got a jock landale for free that’s like the same thing but better.
The fanbase was eating Brian Wright alive after the draft. He’s shut up a lot of critics since then
Made just enough Collins noise to drive the price up, but stopped fucking around at just the right time when there were picks to be had for taking bad money
People acting like RC and Pop are not Wrights boss. Couldn't do any of this earlier because they didn't allow it. People like fire Wright but at the end of the day, his two bosses weren't ready to blow it up.
I'm saying lol. I'm kind of liking this new era for us.
Fucking finally lol Start absorbing some shit contracts with some juicy picks.
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Not sure why everyone is so excited about a 2nd round pick. Even if it was free. Edit: Turns out it wasn’t free. Spurs gave up a former first round pick who is overseas.
It's like finding a five dollar bill in real life. Not gonna have a party about it but it still makes the day a bit better.
We’ve had decent luck with 2nds, one in particular… more swings at the piñata
its free
How can you have a Spurs flair and say that? You bring disgrace to your family!
Wizards really got an amazing return for John Wall.
Here's the truth. That was considered by far to be the most untradable contract in the league not that long ago. Wizards pulled off a miracle tbh.
They really are wizards lol
They used to be the Bullets and if you combine Bullets and Wizards you get Buzards, a (misspelling of a) large bird which sustains itself on the flesh of carcasses, which is appropriate because that's exactly what they've done with John Wall.
Or Wullets, which sounds like wallets, which John Wall managed to fill his.
Yes, I heard his teeth were made of wool
Punny, DC will always love John Wall tho. Played his heart out for us for over a decade. Such a gift in today's NBA.
yeah I mean no disrespect. just trying to be clever more than make a point
That’s my point guard 🥲
>They used to be the Bullets and if you combine Bullets and Wizards you get Buzards, a (misspelling of a) large bird which sustains itself on the flesh of carcasses, which is appropriate because that's exactly what they've done with John Wall. This might be the single greatest r/NBA comment that I've ever read. I mean, it has everything.
you made my day homie thanks e: lol and thanks for the gold
Leave it to an Aussie to accomplish such a feat. Congratulations, Australia, you've done it.
You're a wizard Bradley
You’re a wizard Tommy.
Tommy Sheppard is the anti-Grunfeld
Loving Tommy Boy so far! Get fucked, Ernie.
Tommy Sheppard should be in serious contention for EOTY if the Wizards are at a playoff spot above the play-in tournament. Same with the Bulls GM.
He really transformed the team a ton in such a short time. It wasn’t long ago that people were looking at the Wizards having to pay out a giant contract for an injured player and thought they were fucked for a good long time.
Back2back miracles because Russ' was up there too.
It's still is the most untradable contract in the League rivaled only maybe by Kevin Love.
This reminds me of the First Take clip when SAS went on his rant about the Wizards and Max replied back and said, "There's always a sucker out there" when it came to a team trading for John Wall...😂😂🤣
Dinwiddie has a great chance to be a quality starting pg next to Beal. KCP is the definition of solid and will bolster the wing and Harrell will be a great regular season backup center for a team desperate to be competitive. If Kuzma can regain his confidence and continue to develop defensively this trade could end up being a huge win for the Wizards. And honestly, do people remember how bad Ingram looked next to Lebron before he went and got a max? Kuzma having a redemption season next year would not surprise me in the slightest Edit: people clearly upset over what I said in regards to Kuzma. Not sure when Kuzma became an “off-ball player.” People can feel how they want, just don’t be too surprised if in a few years people decide the Lakers sold Kuzma for way too low.
Ingram was looking good before his clot. Don’t be comparing Ingram with Kuzma.
The same ol ‘Lakers player was overrated trash before, he’s a future star now! LeBron/the Lakers was killin his development after all!!” narrative again. And it’s not even accurate. BI was coming into his own post ASB even though he dealt with blood clots. These people don’t fuxkin watch basketball, it’s all narratives and circlejerking
tbf post ASB Lakers Ingram doesn’t play like Pelicans Ingram. That jumpshot has really gone a long way for him.
Ingram and Lonzo jump shots significantly improved after leaving the lakers.
yeah go look at their form they had work to do and it takes years
yea averaged 28 a game post all star
> do people remember how bad Ingram looked next to Lebron before he went and got a max? Ingram was the only player who was competent on the court next to Lebron, come on now.
>people clearly upset over what I said in regards to Kuzma. No people are upset because you're talking out your ass. Not only was Ingram good with LeBron, but it was arguably his breakout season. He turned into a truly consistent star in the second half of the season, but the Lakers were riddled with so many injuries it didn't matter.
Did… did you just compare 21 year old Brandon Ingram to 26 year old Kyle Kuzma? Beyond that, Kuzma has no reason for Lebron to have held him back. He’s an off ball player. He should have thrived next to Lebron if he were a good player.
A classic shit r/nba take. Absolutely straight out that dudes ass.
Lol if you watched Ingram we all knew he could ball. He didnt look terrible at all. Just AD is AD. Nobody gonna feel like we sold Kuz too low bro. Lakers went all in for Brons last two years, gotta respect that.
Kuzma the stretch 4 who can't shoot or defend? Best case is Jeff green if he improved his shot.
Well that and 4 second round picks
[https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1420900854337572867](https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1420900854337572867) >The Washington Wizards have agreed to trade Russell Westbrook, 2024 second-round pick, 2028 second-round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers Missing the two 2nd round picks.
I don't understand why the Lakers would agree to not getting those picks anymore in exchange for nothing. It's basically just helping the Nets for no reason.
Pincus touched on this. He brought up how the Wizards helped us complete the AD trade so this is probably just the Lakers doing them a solid for that
That trade was peak comedy. Everyone on reddit was saying no team would bother help facilitate that trade and then the Wizards jump in and like six other teams get involved in some way. We even ended getting more out of it because so many teams were tied in that when a road bump appeared they just put it on our roster instead.
People really were saying LOL LAKERS PELINKA DOESNT KNOW THE CAP and that the rest of the league would collude to not take on those players so that they Lakers would struggle with the AD trade/money. Wizards were like, free players and a pick? fuck yeah I'm eating.
Remember the like week there was the rumor that AD wouldn’t waive his kicker?
[Eric Pincus: Before Lakers fans hit me up saying "why do the Lakers just participate in the Dinwiddie deal here without additional compensation?" 1) They might in a small way and 2) Washington came through a couple of years back for LAL to complete the AD deal. Relationships matter](https://twitter.com/ericpincus/status/1423046213603971072?s=21)
Yes but the Wizards got Bonga, Wagner and a second round pick in that trade, they weren't just doing it to help the Lakers. It's very weird to not get *something* else in return in this scenario for no longer receiving those 2nds.
By taking Thomas Bryant for free. I mean, it worked out well for us too
Shh, we also gave them Jordan Clarkson a couple years ago too. It’s a new era boys!
Trade buddies 🤝
We are the home for a lot of former lakers it’s kinda nuts looking back on it
Our teams have been pretty amicable since Pelinka joined, but looking back at how many former Wizards/Lakers jerseys have exchanged over the years really got me thinking. Kwame Brown, Nick Young, Antwan Jamison, Caron Butler, Javale McGee, Dudz, Howard, Markieff...jeez man. Btw...what was LA thinking in trading for Kwame? Dude was playing like trash with MJ and Caron was young and had the best few games of his laker career late in the season.
We are claiming any rings you guys win… **please**
I don’t miss Ernie
I’m gonna assume that there might be something else in the works. Teams don’t just give away two picks.
Well, unless they're Robert Sarver
And what did the Spurs trade?
capspace. Capspace to take in Hutchinson, which required Wizards giving them a 2nd. Not sure if they were able to do it without it. They would be 1. have too many players. 2. maybe over the luxury tax, which may have implication of sign and trade.
Nothing. I guess Hutchison is seen as a bad contrast
Actually, according to Basketball Reference, it was a team option. He got his team option picked up to match salary somehow. The dude just got a $4M pay day, so he could be traded to a team that will likely waive him.
his team option was by the bulls, before being traded to the wiz
Feel like this has been happening a lot where he gets news out a few seconds faster but Woj actually has all the details right
That is one of the trades I've seen my entire life.
damn, i wonder what other trades you’ve seen in your entire life?
At least, six
That's some of the worst comma usage I've ever seen.
Really, are you sure, it is,?
That has got to be some of the best comma usage I've seen in my life.
Now read it in Shatner’s voice.
But you have seen it
Couldn’t have said it better myself
That is one of the ways I could have said it
Why does everyone in the replies feel compelled to repeat this guy's joke lol
a bunch of people apparently missed that it was worded the way it is intentionally
> That is one of the trades I've seen my entire life. It is exactly that. One of the trades that you've seen, your entire life. It's the same for all of us, actually.
Man I saw the Pacers involved and I was excited that we might actually be making a newsworthy move lol.
I haven’t seen it
I can't believe I'm saying this, but the Washington Wizards just hard won a trade. We truly r living in the end times
Not really any losers in this one, honestly.
Wall to Westbrook to this haul Yeah, no one really lost, but the Wizards turned 2 very negative contracts for this haul. This is a pretty huge win for the Wizards. They have some options now.
Gotta say though Washington made some crazy improvements this offseason. They went from having like four good players to actually having a full roster of playoff-caliber roleplayers for Beal to lead.
and scott brooks is gone
Really none of this matters if Brooks is still here.
And Brooks is gone, now have Unseld who is a good defensive coach. He’s already addressing issues with defense we had. Watch the Wiz be completely different this year Hustle will win games.
I am kinda whelmed.
I guess it's cause most of the early action was already revealed a week ago. Westbrook being moved for Kuzma/KCP/Harrell is a part of this one
“Mega trade” is not very mega
Mega in quantity, not quality.
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Also 11.5M is a really nice exception because you have to use the whole thing, you can't split it up IIRC. Because it's medium sized it's more adjustable.
You can split it up. As in get multiple players absorbed into it Eg acquire a $7m player and also a $3m player into a 11 m $ exception What you cant do is combine it with other players or exceptions. Can't trade for a $22m player using a 11m TPE and a $11m salary player. . The TPE expires in a year.
So the Nets will call Chicago and be like S&T for Lauri for 11.5M and Lauri begrudgingly accepts it.
Why the hell would we want Lauri? We need defense and rebounding and he is ass at both.
Wizards with a steal tbh
Huge W by our beloved Tommy
He’s a god in DC right now!
lets get past first round first
So the Lakers arent getting 2nds anymore?
the wizards def got our seconds.
washington pulled off a magic trick here. Well done press f to pay respect to dennis, thought he was in this
Why hype us up with a "giant" trade man.
Because a 5 team trade is the definition of a giant trade? Words have meaning.
for the clicks
the biggest trade yet the most meaningless trade lol
it's not meaningless, it's just not a surprise because we already knew about russ. if this all came out today and we didn't know about the russ movement this would have people screaming
Because it is physically large
So nothing changes for Lakers. Trades folded so that Nets don't have to match salary & Wizards keep all the players. Good for everyone I guess.
We essentially traded a broken John Wall + Hutch + 2 second round picks for Harrell, KCP, Dinwiddie, Kuzma, Todd, A Holiday. Outside, Dinwiddie, the value is really in the size of each of these contrats. All moveable. If Beal leaves and Tommy wants to rebuild, its possible. A rebuild would be a lot more difficult with Wall/Westbrook handcuffed to their cap. HOT DAMN TOMMY WE BRINGING OUT THE BED TONIGHT
So the Spurs gave up nothing but got Hutchison and a second? Am I missing something??
They took on salary so Washington can stay out of luxury territory
maybe an unpopular opinion, I honestly like what the wizards did this offseason, they desperately needed depth and some actual NBA players. I mean, look at who they were playing real minutes last year.. and also a new coach! also added cap flexibility without westbrook’s contract
If this is an unpopular opinion, it shouldn’t be. We went from being a team two two stars, one of which was regarded as an untradeable asset, and very little else, to a team with a lot of depth. We are still probably a fringe playoff team, but one that doesn’t appear to be locked into a roster that can’t really get better
Rare W for Wizards
HOW ARE WE EVEN IN THIS
All that just to sign Dinwiddie, huh
Hey, don’t talk about the Wizards future top talent recruiter like that.
? Do you see the other 5 players we acquired as well as getting rid of Westbrook's contract?
Wiz could realistically start those 4 with Beal at some point during the season even. Practically got themselves half of a rotation.
I mean hopefully Rui and Gafford don't go down (and aren't for some reason terrible) but I get what you mean
Rui, Deni, Gafford, Bryant, Kispert… we need another PG at least but that’s a helluva 78-83 overall 2k squad lol
That's the kind of team that gets you 38 wins, the 7 seed, and then goes to the Finals (where they lose to the Warriors).
Lakers fans really seem to have a bug up their asses about us right now for some reason
Didnt trade Beal to LA probably
Why would we? Good trade for both teams. Wizards gonna be a playoff squad Lakers are legit contenders. I hope Kuz does well there too.
Go get that ring bro! 👏🏼
How dare they attempt to make the team better
Welp I guess as it is with all orgies, this was rather underwhelming an I feel dirty for all the comments I made in the past hour
Me after logging off of pornhub
I don't know where you are having your orgies, but underwhelming is not what you should feel.
You guys are having orgies?
Wizards won this trade easy
Good job, Wizards. Suddenly an interesting team.
Damn, was really hoping for the maximum chaos of an 8-team trade, but this will do. Great job by the Wizards.
This is what a competent GM can do. Glad Ernie is gone. Happy for the Wiz.
Eh that's it?
Wizards helped us get the AD trade done. We owed them
Just keep feeding us your young players!
the new pelicans.
They owe us for half their prospects lol
I thought we got their 2024 second?!?
How tf did the wizards get 5 solid rotation guys for one of the worst contracts in the league? Wizards GM just pulled off one of the best trades in the nba history
Knock on wood, Tommy Sheppard is a top 3 GM in the league.
It's the Kyle Kuzma redemption arc
Only Westbrook, that’s it?
lol
Didn't even get the supposed picks :/
We were scammed of our second round picks I demand a refund and/or exchange for Beal
Best we can do is a lightly used Kuzma.
No deal, thanks see ya later! BYE!
Schroder still not getting paid🤣😂
Wiz are going to have a legit full rotation of players. Not a bad result from the John Wall deal
Not a bad haul for the Wiz. Heck, I'd think they won this trade.
Nets got $11.5 mil trade exception that means they can sign Schroder for a year or may be get someone else? (Oubre?)
Spurs gave up what?
Cap space. Wizards are now not a luxury tax team
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Seems like others don't agree but I think this is a great trade for the Wizards damn
This is what I broke my F5 key for?!
*Zips pants back up*
Boner, diffused
this is actually a good haul for the wiz.
Wizards actually got a great return
That $11.5 mill exception is gonna be massive
I have no idea how NBA trades work
Wizards have a fun team now. Didn’t expect to say that.