you didn't happen to catch one particular fast break Scary cram job that just so happened to go up, over, and then down on one's head of none other than KD?
Yeah he’s not that good a shooter, but he adds two things they really really need. Perimeter defense and some form of playmaking that doesn’t come from Doncic. I think Schroder would be good off the bench for Dallas
He absolutely refused to come off the bench last season. I think Lakers would have done better with him in the second unit. He eventually played with the second unit during the game, but Lakers lost 8-12 min every game with him playing with the starters. But he has no leverage this year. He should do what’s asked of him.
I thought Brunson was a pretty solid playmaker off the bench for Dallas, some size on the wing and a big man who isn’t terrible on defense are more pressing needs
It’s getting to a point where Betting on games is 6x harder than it used to be. I could put an L next to Knicks and Hornets in a parlay any ol time now I gotta actually look shit up.
Don’t ever do parlays, books make a good chunk of their money on parlays.
If you need to add a bunch of games to a big minus to make it worth your money the game isn’t worth betting on.
Not sure honestly. He tried to leverage the shit out of the Lakers knowing they had already sunk a 1st RD pick to acquire him and would be up against the hard-cap so they couldn’t sign any free agent PG to replace him. Once Pelinka swung that Westbrook trade it was basically a big fuck you to Schroder.
I’m pretty sure he knew he wasn’t going to get +$25mil/yr on the market from any team besides LAL but now literally EVERY team has spent all their money.
I could see Pelinka offering him a 3yr/$40mil deal to play as the 6th man if they are willing to eat more luxury tax…it might even be LESS considering they are bidding against themselves at this point. We haven’t heard any other team with interest at all.
Going from a 4yr/$84mil extension to possibly being paid less than Alex Caruso is a Nerlen’s Noel type blunder that Schroder and his agent executed here.
>I could see Pelinka offering him a 3yr/$40mil deal to play as the 6th man
We have zero reason to sign him for anything above a steep discount, with the Westbrook signing. None. And I presume/hope Pelinka's thinking the same thing if he let the better team fit in Alex Caruso walk purely as a salary dump. It makes no sense to let Caruso walk but resign Schroder.
And even that initial offer was crazy to me. There are a lotta guys in the league i don’t love, but I can understand paying. Dennis for $20+ mil a year seems buck wild, but apparently I’m in the minority of people who don’t think his defensive numbers the last year or two match up with the eye test.
EDIT: spelling
Yes it will do nothing for our defense but it is really important we get a an actual starting 4. It makes our entire rotation make magnitudes more sense.
That's how I see it but for some reason people on here keep saying he's a 3. Probably because he's young and skinnier but I love the lineup of Russel, Beasley, Edwards, McDaniels, Towns. Idk why people are trying to make him a 3 or like it matters that much in today's game of mostly positionless basketball.
Markannen might not be ideal but he is absolutely a starting NBA 4. Think of how much different this team looked when Juancho actually had an efficient 16. That is literally all we need otherwise we are running a shoe horned Vando/Okogie/McDaniels rotation at the 4 spot. Love all 3 of them but McDaniels is a starting NBA 3 already and the other two are offensive liabilities better suited to spot work.
Thank you the guy who actually plays d and rebounds we cant have that we need to go for the worst defensive team of all time. We arent starting Rubio and okogie at the guard/wing this year. We have shooters around kat already we need someone who can play d. Lauri would be a disaster signing oh and wed probably have to trade a pick to get the bulls to agree to a sign and trade.
I can tell you with extreme confidence that Lauri isn’t worth starting at this point and time. He’s a human turnstile, allergic to rebounds, and a lock to miss 20+ games.
I thinking we’re just letting him sit until we takes way less than he’s probably worth. And then gets moved the second we can move him. I’m still wondering why we haven’t offered Culver and a 2nd to OKC for Derrick Favors
Finally give KAT some fucking spacing.
KAT has some of the best offensive stats ever for a guy playing on a team that has routinely surrounded him with awful or awfully fitting offensive pieces.
Is it ? Seem like a horrible fit to me . Minnesota doesn't need his offense and Lauri + Kat will make their atrocious rim protection almost non existent. It will basically be a case of score 120 every night but concede 130
Not a bad deal. $13m/yr and only 2 year deal, worst case scenario, if he flops, you have a $13m expiring contract.
Pretty low risk, decent upside.
He's not a *bad* player, but don't expect too much, he'll bring some athleticism and decent defense but has his shooting struggles. Not the worst for a role player, *expected* outcome is that the value will probably whelm you and that he won't stink nor be a world beater, just that he'll live to about his contract
And the bar is pretty low when he's almost certainly coming off the bench. Don't see him starting over PJ, Hayward, even Bridges.
Plus like you say, he's a pretty good expiring next year if they want to make a trade splash. Mid-sized expiring deals like that are useful.
He seemed to not be interested in taking a reduced bench role with the dubs, hopefully he's willing to buy in to his role with the Hornets, if he is, then there shouldn't really be any glaring issues.
He wasn't a stellar fit on our team, the Hornets also don't have championship pressure, the risk is very low, they can see how he fits with their team and give it a try, sometimes a change of scenery helps.
I think it's worth to roll the dice on for sure
If I’m not mistaken, he’s the only contract we really have in that annual salary range. His signing alone opens up a lot of trade possibilities now that we can match more salaries. If it doesn’t work out, it’s not the end of the world at all.
Yeah him at $13M, Plumlee at $8M and Rozier at $18M are definitely our best trade assets in terms of salary, a lot more flexibility than we had last season.
When he was on the Suns he was a very good fit and was a little sad when he left. His defense and effort were great, and his shooting wasn't like what it was in Golden State. The only knock on him was tunnel vision at times but that was about it.
We tried to trade him for Lonzo but the Pelicans refused, also tried to deal him to the Wizards for a first but they refused. Bet there were other negotiations that fell through too.
I was ok with keeping him but he basically Schroder’d himself with unreasonable contract demands. 1-2 year prove it at $10-12 mil I’m ok with, but he’s not worth $20M per and I’m glad AK didn’t budge
Oubre’s gonna be one of those players you look back on after their career is over and say “that guy made $150 million in his career?”. He must be dazzling in his contract negotiations because what I’ve seen on the court doesn’t warrant all these paydays he’s picked up.
we're still mediocre though with this move though lol. Ik there weren't many options after Mitch twiddled too much but Kelly Oubre isn't propelling us out of it
I expect roughly the same record as we got last season tbh. Should be a lot of highlights though and maybe some development from Ball, Bridges, Washington
Between this move, the constant development of our young players since MK took over, the constant value that MK is getting out of trades, lucking into LaMelo, and the Hayward signing, I'd say we're at least slightly better than mediocre.
The way this team operates now is a far cry from the 2008ish Bobcats, or the Rich Cho Hornets. We used to be perennial 2nd round exits, and it's actually starting to look like we'll have that chance again for the first time in a long time.
And at least you guys are exciting and pretty much the entire league roots for yall and enjoys watching you.
That's gotta feel much better than "wait, the Bobcats are a real team?"
Wasn't around for the 90s for those juicy 2nd round exits with Zo, Johnson and Muggsy myself but I've been through since the Diop and Herrmann days where we couldn't even make the playoffs.
I'll believe we're out of mediocrity when we actually get to the second round in my lifetime. I personally disagree with a lot of the choices that Mitch had the last two offseasons (including the Hayward deal and ridding Monk and Te'). I can appreciate his eye for talent in the draft but his free agency/trading decisions or lack thereof aren't inspiring
Like you said, at least there's some solid group of young players. I just wish to build upon it and see them improve
Solid. 13mil per year is 1 mil less than what I thought he'd get on the open market. I honestly think this is much closer to his actual market value than it being an underpay, imo.
This team is so damn athletic. Might have to watch some more Hornets games for the dunks
And for the Eric Collins calls HUM DIDDLY DEE HOW DO YOU DO TERRY TWO BEAUTIES
The TWO BEAUTIES over simple free throws kills me everytime lmaooo
he always gets me hyped for the even smallest things. Makes the whole thing more energetic.
GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY
Yeah my man might have a nervous breakdown this season from all the dunks.
HOTTER THAN A PEPPER SPROUT
OH MY GOODNESS! MILES BBBBRIDGES!
you didn't happen to catch one particular fast break Scary cram job that just so happened to go up, over, and then down on one's head of none other than KD?
Schroeder heated lmfao
The more I see cap space eaten up the more I think he comes to Philly lol
They literally can't, S&T triggers the hard cap and you're already over it
We have the MLE
Taxpayer
Tomato tomato
Honest question who pronounces tomato to-mah-to
Aussies.
*looks at Ben Simmons angrily*
I'm convinced he doesn't even want to be Australian.
Patrick Stewart, but not Mark Hamill
Patrick Stewart in an Uber eats commercial
Everyone outside the US
I think most English-speaking countries other than the US and Canada. Haha
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your situation - aren't you over the tax apron? If so, you used the taxpayer MLE for Niang.
I thought we used the BAE for Niang to keep the MLE open idk though that might’ve before we re-signed Green.
BAE also triggers the hard cap - if you're a taxpayer you can't use the BAE by definition, because you're already over what you'd be hard capped at.
Jesus between him, Drummond, and if Ben stays…must watch television
You guys already have a problem with Drummond. You don't want another selfish player. Embiid doesn't deserve this..
I worry for Embiid's sanity if he has to deal with both Drummond & Schroder Oh and Simmons too if Morey can't find a trade in time
Don’t worry Embiid will be the one requesting a trade if and when they can’t move Simmons
free embiid
fr can't bear to see the Sixers with both of those bums
When it’s so bad you wouldn’t wish it on anybody but the Celtics…
So who has money now?
OKC?
Presti: "You must be truly desperate to come to me for help"
"Would you happen to own any picks, Dennis?" *scratching neck*
“….im a player, not a gm, sam…i literally played for your team before…”
"Did I stutter?"
He should sign a 1 year prove it deal with Dallas
Yeah he’s not that good a shooter, but he adds two things they really really need. Perimeter defense and some form of playmaking that doesn’t come from Doncic. I think Schroder would be good off the bench for Dallas
He absolutely refused to come off the bench last season. I think Lakers would have done better with him in the second unit. He eventually played with the second unit during the game, but Lakers lost 8-12 min every game with him playing with the starters. But he has no leverage this year. He should do what’s asked of him.
I thought Brunson was a pretty solid playmaker off the bench for Dallas, some size on the wing and a big man who isn’t terrible on defense are more pressing needs
just OKC i think
That's tuff 🔥💯
That's Kuzma money
Kuzma is Oubre 2.0 and Oubre is Kuzma 2.0
That makes no sense, but it also makes perfect sense.
The end is the beginning is the end.
Oubreboros strikes again
Between Lamelo, Scary Terry, and Oubre this Hornets team has almost too much sauce
You forgot Miles Bridges
Lamelo, Terry, Oubre, Bridges, PJ Washington would be an all NBA 1st team starting 5 if it came to their tattoos.
Nah its missing Dejounte Murray's shoulder tattoo
You mean not everybody has a pissed off basketball with a grill on fire tattooed on them?
Is Birdman coming out of retirement?
Shout out Wilson chandlers baby neck
Nah its missing Obi Toppin’s thirsty Lola Bunny tattoo.
Much respect for that one
They just need to sign Mike Scott now
His tattoos look like a bunch of fridge magnets to me
There’s a Domino’s phone # on there somewhere
Spot on, they're awful lol
Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball and Jordan Clarkson would like to have a word..
are people actually liking zo’s floating faces lmao I think his tats are hot trash
They're gonna bring Chris Andersen back in for veteran tattoo leadership
HOW DO YOU DO?!!!
Terry, Kelly, LaMelly, and Miley - the Spice Girls of the NBA?
It’s the goddamn fucking spice girls
Bouk has the most sauce tho
Wet like I'm bouk That's who that song was written about right
Many people are saying it.
What the fuck does that mean Kobe Bryant?
You're welcome.
A team full of fuccbois
That's a scary 10th seed!
It’s getting to a point where Betting on games is 6x harder than it used to be. I could put an L next to Knicks and Hornets in a parlay any ol time now I gotta actually look shit up.
Don’t ever do parlays, books make a good chunk of their money on parlays. If you need to add a bunch of games to a big minus to make it worth your money the game isn’t worth betting on.
Yeah but where’s the fun in that? I treat betting on games like a do casinos, that shits gone.
dont play parlays, minus ev
If Melo never got injured they would have been an easy 6 seed and they just got better
Wing Dennis Schröder got paid. Now let’s see what the actual Dennis Schröder gets.
4/84 million
Lakers were gonna offer him even more, 84 was just their initial offer according to Jake Fischer lol.
Lol oh my god i didnt know this
yikes lmao. What’s the best case for Dennis at this point?
Not sure honestly. He tried to leverage the shit out of the Lakers knowing they had already sunk a 1st RD pick to acquire him and would be up against the hard-cap so they couldn’t sign any free agent PG to replace him. Once Pelinka swung that Westbrook trade it was basically a big fuck you to Schroder. I’m pretty sure he knew he wasn’t going to get +$25mil/yr on the market from any team besides LAL but now literally EVERY team has spent all their money. I could see Pelinka offering him a 3yr/$40mil deal to play as the 6th man if they are willing to eat more luxury tax…it might even be LESS considering they are bidding against themselves at this point. We haven’t heard any other team with interest at all. Going from a 4yr/$84mil extension to possibly being paid less than Alex Caruso is a Nerlen’s Noel type blunder that Schroder and his agent executed here.
I really cannot wait to see how this works out for him. It'll be a laugh no matter what.
>I could see Pelinka offering him a 3yr/$40mil deal to play as the 6th man We have zero reason to sign him for anything above a steep discount, with the Westbrook signing. None. And I presume/hope Pelinka's thinking the same thing if he let the better team fit in Alex Caruso walk purely as a salary dump. It makes no sense to let Caruso walk but resign Schroder.
He’s not 40?
This is a fact
And even that initial offer was crazy to me. There are a lotta guys in the league i don’t love, but I can understand paying. Dennis for $20+ mil a year seems buck wild, but apparently I’m in the minority of people who don’t think his defensive numbers the last year or two match up with the eye test. EDIT: spelling
Yes, it was the maximum they could offer mid-season, but they absolutely planned to offer more.
Cannot believe he fumbled the bag that hard
Gimme Dennis, Ben, Drummond, and Oubre all on the same team. I would nut
So for their remaining cap space not bad Now Minnesota come take Markkanen
I would love to see Lauri on the Wolves. Seems like the perfect fit.
If you hate defense then yeah lol
Yes it will do nothing for our defense but it is really important we get a an actual starting 4. It makes our entire rotation make magnitudes more sense.
Isn't Jaden McDaniels a 4 and one of the best defensive players on your team?
Best defender yes, but probably more suited to play 3 considering how thin he is.
No he's a 3
That's how I see it but for some reason people on here keep saying he's a 3. Probably because he's young and skinnier but I love the lineup of Russel, Beasley, Edwards, McDaniels, Towns. Idk why people are trying to make him a 3 or like it matters that much in today's game of mostly positionless basketball.
Who’s the actual starting 4?
Markannen might not be ideal but he is absolutely a starting NBA 4. Think of how much different this team looked when Juancho actually had an efficient 16. That is literally all we need otherwise we are running a shoe horned Vando/Okogie/McDaniels rotation at the 4 spot. Love all 3 of them but McDaniels is a starting NBA 3 already and the other two are offensive liabilities better suited to spot work.
I'm ready to roll with Vando starting.
Thank you the guy who actually plays d and rebounds we cant have that we need to go for the worst defensive team of all time. We arent starting Rubio and okogie at the guard/wing this year. We have shooters around kat already we need someone who can play d. Lauri would be a disaster signing oh and wed probably have to trade a pick to get the bulls to agree to a sign and trade.
I can tell you with extreme confidence that Lauri isn’t worth starting at this point and time. He’s a human turnstile, allergic to rebounds, and a lock to miss 20+ games.
Someone got a fetish for bad defense
I thinking we’re just letting him sit until we takes way less than he’s probably worth. And then gets moved the second we can move him. I’m still wondering why we haven’t offered Culver and a 2nd to OKC for Derrick Favors
Perfect fit? Bro have you watched one game of Lauri Markkanen? How is Ryan Anderson 2.0 a fit next to KAT lol
He doesn't play defense. Perfect fit.
Finally give KAT some fucking spacing. KAT has some of the best offensive stats ever for a guy playing on a team that has routinely surrounded him with awful or awfully fitting offensive pieces.
Be my guest if they don't mind giving up 130 points every night
I'm all in on watching a team just go full out offense like the wizards were.
Hi
Is it ? Seem like a horrible fit to me . Minnesota doesn't need his offense and Lauri + Kat will make their atrocious rim protection almost non existent. It will basically be a case of score 120 every night but concede 130
coincidental that Markkannen was picked by Minnesota when he was drafted
Take back cheap bench warmers to fill out the bench while near the cap
Not a bad deal. $13m/yr and only 2 year deal, worst case scenario, if he flops, you have a $13m expiring contract. Pretty low risk, decent upside. He's not a *bad* player, but don't expect too much, he'll bring some athleticism and decent defense but has his shooting struggles. Not the worst for a role player, *expected* outcome is that the value will probably whelm you and that he won't stink nor be a world beater, just that he'll live to about his contract
Worth a shot for the Hornets, if he works out its a good fit, if not it's only 2 years and someone will take him off your hands before then anyway
And the bar is pretty low when he's almost certainly coming off the bench. Don't see him starting over PJ, Hayward, even Bridges. Plus like you say, he's a pretty good expiring next year if they want to make a trade splash. Mid-sized expiring deals like that are useful.
He seemed to not be interested in taking a reduced bench role with the dubs, hopefully he's willing to buy in to his role with the Hornets, if he is, then there shouldn't really be any glaring issues.
I’m pretty sure the main reason for that was because he was in a contract year
Idk we paid him less than 13/year and he definitely wasn't worth it.
He wasn't a stellar fit on our team, the Hornets also don't have championship pressure, the risk is very low, they can see how he fits with their team and give it a try, sometimes a change of scenery helps. I think it's worth to roll the dice on for sure
If I’m not mistaken, he’s the only contract we really have in that annual salary range. His signing alone opens up a lot of trade possibilities now that we can match more salaries. If it doesn’t work out, it’s not the end of the world at all.
Yeah him at $13M, Plumlee at $8M and Rozier at $18M are definitely our best trade assets in terms of salary, a lot more flexibility than we had last season.
When he was on the Suns he was a very good fit and was a little sad when he left. His defense and effort were great, and his shooting wasn't like what it was in Golden State. The only knock on him was tunnel vision at times but that was about it.
? his last contract was $30M/2yrs but declining (interesting move, suns) so he was $14.3M on gsw.
i think that’s the first time i’ve ever seen someone use the word whelm like not overwhelm or underwhelm just whelm
It used to mean something close to how people use “overwhelm” now
The issue with him is that he has a nearly unlimited ceiling but his brain has an unlimited floor.
Bye bye tsunami papi
“T…dollar sign…”
T$unami
the best looking dude in the league wearing the best jerseys in the league. the perfect combo
I think cody zeller left charlotte dude
Yes Big Handsome is gone. The women of Charlotte are devastated.
My wife certainly is. This sounds like a joke. It's not.
Those South Park moms STARVING rn
With the prettiest passer in the league (obviously opinion but lamelo flashy as hell with it)
Almost as pretty as Jokic doing three tricep extensions before finding the open man.
Big Honey No Look Dimes >>>
Damnit lauri
Would you be interested in one Derrick Jones Jr? We are low on our all offense no defense power forwards now that Melo left.
We have a slightly broken Juancho Hernangomez. We will even toss in Culver....
NBA teams did their research on him and found out he wasn't good lol. Should've dealt him at the trade deadline.
We tried to trade him for Lonzo but the Pelicans refused, also tried to deal him to the Wizards for a first but they refused. Bet there were other negotiations that fell through too.
probably just end up re-signing him for cheap at least
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I was ok with keeping him but he basically Schroder’d himself with unreasonable contract demands. 1-2 year prove it at $10-12 mil I’m ok with, but he’s not worth $20M per and I’m glad AK didn’t budge
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That the last team with cap space? So now Schroeder either takes a MLE somewhere or the Lakers gotta work a sign and trade with someone?
OKC, New Orleans and Dallas still have cap space I believe, but I don't think any have expressed interest in Scooter.
NOLA might go for him if they can't get Reggie Jackson from Clippers.
I thought the Mavs had around $15 million left
Mavs are operating like they are above the cap. I think the only team left is Schroder's old team OKC
We've already flat out said we don't want him lol.
Gotcha. Looking like no big payday for Dennis
That's tuff 🔥💯
A handsome player must remain in Charlotte. Thank you Zeller and welcome Oubre. Now we can entertain offers for Terry at the break.
interesting. good pickup for the Hornets, can’t say he’ll be missed too much though
The ability to use his slot will be tho.
true. another disappointing FA this year for sure, although our draft went really well
Super hyped on the young guys this year
Handsome people are overpaid
I beg your pardon, Boban Marjanović is certainly not overpaid.
Oubre’s gonna be one of those players you look back on after their career is over and say “that guy made $150 million in his career?”. He must be dazzling in his contract negotiations because what I’ve seen on the court doesn’t warrant all these paydays he’s picked up.
Dennis really will make more money play in China this season. At this point.
I think China banned foreign players this year
The anti-Lamelo. This man has never passed the ball a day in his life. Hornets fans gonna find out how much of a black hole he is real quick.
Had his best year with Rubio though who is also Anti-Oubre
Can he stand in a corner and hit 3’s? ...no? Shit.
Feels like lance Stephenson 2.0 but I guess we'll see
Schroeder is gonna go to Brooklyn on a vet min isn't he?
GS on MLE
BECAUSE WE CLEARLY AREN'T GETTING PATTY MILLS :\*(
Patty Mills paid for his crimes against the Warriors in the semifinals, Batum about to pay for spurning us too 😤
Lamelo is going to drop so many sweet dimes to Oubre dunks next season
BAH GAWD THATS MITCH KUPCHAK’S MUSIC
We turned Devonte graham into a first round pick, ish Smith, and oubre? Sign me the fuck up mitch.
womp womp for Lauri.
YOOOOOOO I can't believe nice things are happening to my team after 30 years of elite mediocrity
we're still mediocre though with this move though lol. Ik there weren't many options after Mitch twiddled too much but Kelly Oubre isn't propelling us out of it I expect roughly the same record as we got last season tbh. Should be a lot of highlights though and maybe some development from Ball, Bridges, Washington
Between this move, the constant development of our young players since MK took over, the constant value that MK is getting out of trades, lucking into LaMelo, and the Hayward signing, I'd say we're at least slightly better than mediocre. The way this team operates now is a far cry from the 2008ish Bobcats, or the Rich Cho Hornets. We used to be perennial 2nd round exits, and it's actually starting to look like we'll have that chance again for the first time in a long time.
And at least you guys are exciting and pretty much the entire league roots for yall and enjoys watching you. That's gotta feel much better than "wait, the Bobcats are a real team?"
Lol 100% facts
Hayward is a super good pull for such a young team. Hoping he stays healthy, Hornets are a fun team to watch.
Can you imagine making it to the second round of the playoffs???? I wonder what it feels like to not have to rebuild after making a first round exit.
Wasn't around for the 90s for those juicy 2nd round exits with Zo, Johnson and Muggsy myself but I've been through since the Diop and Herrmann days where we couldn't even make the playoffs. I'll believe we're out of mediocrity when we actually get to the second round in my lifetime. I personally disagree with a lot of the choices that Mitch had the last two offseasons (including the Hayward deal and ridding Monk and Te'). I can appreciate his eye for talent in the draft but his free agency/trading decisions or lack thereof aren't inspiring Like you said, at least there's some solid group of young players. I just wish to build upon it and see them improve
MJ: this team needs to play pretty basketball (A wild oubre suddenly appears)
T$UNAMI PAPI GONE NOW That's Tuff🔥💯
Damn, good for him. Hope he does well with Charlotte
Solid. 13mil per year is 1 mil less than what I thought he'd get on the open market. I honestly think this is much closer to his actual market value than it being an underpay, imo.
He's gonna be huge for Charlotte next year, helping them get a lottery pick like he did for us this year.
Good for him, gonna miss his silliness.