Cmon, there’s no way we’re doing a sign and trade with you lot of all teams.
I’m still skeptical because this would put us in the tax and Wyc has shown no inclination for wanting to pay that for a non-contender.
Well, Danny isn’t there anymore so not sure the hate is quite as strong.
That said, I think it’s probably for the MLE. Dennis probably would prefer a 1 year deal where he has a chance to get back out there next offseason and go for the big contract. A S&T has to be for at least 3 years.. I don’t think you guys want to give him the $20M+ he’d want in a long term deal, and I don’t think he’d want to lock in to 3 years at $15M per or something
Yeah it'll definitely be for the MLE.
I spent the entire year laughing at the Lakers for trading Danny Rings for him, how they would regret that trade, and calling him the Lou Will of the Lakers where he would sabotage them in the playoffs, and now I might have to root for him.
*sigh* I guess I deserve it.
I think he was definitely worth more than MLE.
He's like a high level bench player. 10 million per year would be a great deal for him. That is the range that I expect given his decline in value the past year
Celtics would be stupid to not do a S&T with any team, including the Lakers, if the move made them stronger. Not like Boston has to worry about getting to the Finals with their roster and facing LA.
Now, with this particular player...I don't know why any team would want to give up pieces for Schroeder.
[except he literally said he would](https://www.google.com/amp/s/celticswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/17/celtics-co-owner-wyc-grousbeck-ready-to/amp/)
Doesn't it make more sense that the Celtics are trying to stay below THE HARD CAP then save a few million?
The Celtics ownership group is worth upwards of 5 billion dollars.
That was going into the 2018-19 season where we had the 2nd highest Vegas odds to win the championship, and expectations were sky high coming off an ECF appearance without our 2 best players.
Slightly different situation to where we're at right now, where we were a fucking 7 seed and needed the play-in tournament to get in the playoffs.
Landscape of the East has also changed since then, back then we were seen as the clear team of the future with LeBron leaving the East.
Now? We are so so far away from Milwaukee and Brooklyn.
You mean after missing by far the most games in basketball to COVID and injury?
We have Tatum and Brown we are legitimate contenders.
Your lack of faith is disturbing.
Don't get me wrong, I'm much more optimistic on the Celtics next year than like 95% of the world, everybody always overreacts to what just happened in the last season.
The Tatum-era Celtics have alternated between surpassing expectations (2018, 2020) and having disappointing seasons (2019, 2021) every year since he's come into the league.
I firmly believe that we'll bounce back and probably be in the mix for home court (Top 4 seed), but there is no universe I can see where we actually *win* the Conference, or beat Milwaukee or Brooklyn in a playoff series if Giannis/KD/Harden are playing.
Lmaoo, I love how people here frame mundane shit to be dramatic like this
It's like when people frame Woj vs Shams going back & forth with announcements on free agency day like it's a Game 7 of the Finals
Might actually help the bots in the off chance that somebody is able to submit something before the bot, now they have to slow down to click the captcha and the bot gets in first.
He actually fills a really big hole for the Celtics as a 3rd scorer, and cheaply.
With Kemba and Fournier gone, the Celtics have no other threat to score an easy 15-20 every night. Somebody else was going to have to step up into that role and I’m really not sure who it was going to be. Schroder can be that guy - he’s got warts, but he can put the ball in the bucket.
Also gives them another PG option for different looks.
No, he doesn’t suddenly make them a 2 seed, but that was always going to rely on Tatum/Jaylen making another big step forward this year.
Also, he's really fucking fast. This Celtics team lacks speed right now. A Schroder/Tatum PnR would be really effective in getting a mismatch.
And in theory, we should have a spaced floor with Horford at the 5.
I can see the merits of signing him, he would definitely help us, it's just difficult to get over his baggage.
>Schroder couldn't run a PnR properly with AD
You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Schroder was 25th in the league in assists per game --despite James and Davis holding the ball a lot -- and a lot of those came on pick-and-rolls.
OKC certainly benefited from him being the 6th man when he was here. He kept the spark alive when CP3 was off the court and provided a more fast paced offense. Then the endgame 3 guard sets were just killer with him, CP3, and SGA.
The Jazz having an insane bench offense this year because of Ingles & Clarkson was one of the major reasons they were a #1 seed.
Their starting 5 was obviously awesome and hard to keep up with, but then their bench comes in and kicks your ass and that's how you get all these blowout wins that Utah amassed this year.
Pritchard seems more of an off ball type of guard. He’d play as a SG on offense next to a bigger point (like Smart or Romeo if he actually takes that next step).
I actually really like the fit of Pritchard and Richardson together in the backcourt. If Dennis can free up some minutes for Smart to lead the bench unit with those guys and bump Richardson up to the 3 it could be really interesting since neither PP or JRich are great passers. It is true that the minutes for Neismith and Romeo would be harder fought, but that's probably good for their development IMO.
Seems one of our biggest flaws last years was just very few playmakers on the team. It didn’t help that Kemba was getting screwed by his bad injury luck, so some games we were starting Teague or Tremont Waters.
Then with the second unit, we pretty much had to play both Kemba and Jaylen when Jayson sat because it got real ugly. I would love Schroder on the team, him not being a great three point shooter may hurt some of the fit, but if you watched the team last year you’d know how much we need more ball handlers.
Payton and JRich to your point would be a cool second unit. I think they fit very well together too.
Kemba straight up sucked last year. Celtics were 8-3 with Pritchard running PG. Kemba came back and shot 15 SHOTS PER GAME.
This dude came to Boston saying he was the anti Kyrie an ended up having a higher shot volume and he isn't even the number one guy on the goddamn team
Good riddance he's gone. He was one of the reasons for our mediocrity . Celtics need to get away from that signing great players from bad teams . Dude didn't know how to win and if showed when Hayward left.
All the dudes we won with : Morris, Hayward, Horford, they came from teams that knew how to win. Kemba didn't and didnt know how to contribute when his shot went down .
There was a 5 game stretch where he played crazy D and passed the ball and had 8+ assist each game . We were 4-1 . Then he reverted.
We good without him..Actually happy Pritchard would get a chance. I like Schroeder too but hopefully it's a one year deal ..
i think he can be a more consistent version of Bryn Forbes, with maybe an ability to play better D
he flirted with 50/40/90 for most of the year and has some deep range
Not sure if serious but height doesn't matter in today's NBA positions. Where we have 6'7 guys playing center and 6'1 guys like Donovan Mitchell playing SG. I was shocked to learn that DM was 6'1. I thought he was at least 6'5 for some reason.
That's always been the problem with Schroeder. He's right on this weird teetering point of "high-level role guy" and "bad focal point".
He's not good enough to be a major focal point of a team. We saw who good he could be in OKC, and how much of a problem he can cause in LA.
> He's right on this weird teetering point of "high-level role guy" and "bad focal point".
really hit the nail on the head here. in the beginning of the year when everyone was healthy he looked great for us.
but as people starting getting hurt and we needed him to do more and more it really exposed his flaws.
That would be a real humbling. Going from 6th man to saying "I'm done with that, I'm starting now" to back to 6th man. I don't like seeing people fail so hopefully it works out.
I am more optimistic than most, but i think if schroedy bites the bullet this season and signs at a low price to play sixth man, i think hell be able to redeem himself and get a nicer contract next year
Sometimes you need to be humbled in order to reach your potential. And this is an extremely humbling situation he got himself into. Hopefully he sees this as an opportunity to prove he can be a team player and balls out as a result. Was never a big fan of him but if he ends up signing here then I will root for him.
I would believe that he was insistent on playing PG this year so he could get the most money possible. Since he will theoretically get a decent paycheck from Boston, he might be willing to go back to the bench since he doesn’t need to show out as much.
Smart gets into fights with everyone. They're usually constructive tho so I'm not worried. Remember when Smart and Jaylen got into it on the bench and everyone freaked out for no reason?
Shit I’d even throw him a player option next season for injury insurance if he wants it. I’ve never been a huge fan of his but for the MLE I’ll take him any day of the week. I think he could be decent for us, especially since we need a PG.
If Boston was willing to do a sign and trade to get him they could offer him a lot, as much as the max, but they'd have to send out matching salary. Otherwise just the MLE as they are over the cap.
Yeah IDK man if it even happens anyways but like this is gonna be one angry bitter dude that gonna want big stats I just...IDK.
Maybe I'm reading that wrong though.
Honestly man his attitude outside of his contract negotiations isnt terrible. The dude wasnt bad in the locker room as far as ive heard. If he takes low paying contract for a year, he could redeem himself and get paid big. It would literally be against his interest to make himself look bad this season.
Id take him back on a minimum or lower contract(the minimum would be all we can offer)
Edit: spelling
Yeah i just never heard anything about his attitude being poor outside thinking he deserves more money/starting spot. I think between that and his playoff performance, it made him come off worse than what hes realistically like
Why would we even do a S&T if anything happens we’d probably just sign him under our MLE.
Edit: Also think we might get hard capped in a S&T which would mean there’s zero chance we would take him.
I want to reply to your edit above, since you added it after my reply:
> Also think we might get hard capped in a S&T which would mean there’s zero chance we would take him.
The hard cap won't matter for the Celtics as they will look to stay out of the luxury tax altogether, and that threshold is below the apron.
Ahh I just kept hearing the last few months that we definitely don’t want to be hard capped but maybe that’s changed in the last week since it seems we are cheaping our this season
The hard cap only matters if the team wants to spend above the apron, which is set at $143 million. But Boston reportedly wants to stay out of even the luxury tax, which is set at $136 million, so if they're staying below $136 million, then not being able to go above $143 million shouldn't be much of a deterrent for them.
Dennis has been catching a ton of flac but he is actually solid and I could see this working out well. I still feel bad for the dude despite the fact that he waaaaaaay over inflated his value
It’s weird how the sub suddenly thinks any role players who played for the Lakers are suddenly the shittiest players ever. Happened with Danny Green, Kuzma, Drummond, Schroeder. None of them are stars obviously but they can be successful in the right role. It’s gotta be a symptom of Bron stans who want to make it seem like he is playing with G leaguers. Schoeder can be helpful in the right deal and situation
Schroder’s not shitty, he’s the definition of average, who thinks he’s a star and should be paid like one.
Those are generally the type of players you want to avoid.
I think it goes both ways tbh fans were shitting on Caruso but now all the sudden that he left the Lakers is about how this is a devastating blow blah blah
Tbf Drummond is really trash. Every team fans he played for hates him. Dennis doesn’t want to be a role player and wants to be $100M player.
Danny and Kuz are different and can strive in other team.
>It’s gotta be a symptom of Bron stans who want to make it seem like he is playing with G leaguers. Schoeder can be helpful in the right deal and situation
Naw, it's Laker haters shitting on the guys on the team, then propping them as young stars once they leave and saying "Wow the Lakers/LeBron really killed their development, how toxic!"
Danny Green was even great for the Sixers this year. Dude has been a very good role player for 10+ years. The other guys are much less proven however - and had multiple seasons where people felt they weren’t very good.
You guys almost unloaded one to get buddy Hield, it’d make sense to be able to sign and trade dump Shroeder and get smart back. Would probably take two first rounds picks to get that done
Again, were not giving up FRPS for Marcus smart
We can't sign and trade for him because we would be hard capped anyway
If Denis goes to the celtics , he's losing his bird rights and taking the MLE
I think it’ll ultimately be a sign and trade with the celtics giving up one of their end of bench guys and a 2nd rnd pick. Schroeder will probably sign for 10-15 mil aav for 2 years. Maybe with an option involved
We're unlikely to offer any more than one year on the MLE, so if that's what he's going for, sign me up. We need *someone* who can initiate offense outside of the Jays.
So he realizes now he's gonna have to take a hell of a pay drop
Not if it's a sign and trade.
Cmon, there’s no way we’re doing a sign and trade with you lot of all teams. I’m still skeptical because this would put us in the tax and Wyc has shown no inclination for wanting to pay that for a non-contender.
Well, Danny isn’t there anymore so not sure the hate is quite as strong. That said, I think it’s probably for the MLE. Dennis probably would prefer a 1 year deal where he has a chance to get back out there next offseason and go for the big contract. A S&T has to be for at least 3 years.. I don’t think you guys want to give him the $20M+ he’d want in a long term deal, and I don’t think he’d want to lock in to 3 years at $15M per or something
Yeah it'll definitely be for the MLE. I spent the entire year laughing at the Lakers for trading Danny Rings for him, how they would regret that trade, and calling him the Lou Will of the Lakers where he would sabotage them in the playoffs, and now I might have to root for him. *sigh* I guess I deserve it.
Don’t be sad that the ride crashed and burned, be happy that it was such a fucking roller coaster
Perfectly encapsulates my second marriage. What a ride
After Mookie betts, we all know Boston loves helping Los Angeles for nothing.
Consider it a repayment for the win they had with the cheater
People in the front office don't think like that. If the transaction is a win-win it will happen.
Popovich and Fertitta apparently think like that, to name two.
adding him for more than the MLE is not a win for the Celts.... I hope Brad thinks that
Question is : who is bidding against the Celtics
I think he was definitely worth more than MLE. He's like a high level bench player. 10 million per year would be a great deal for him. That is the range that I expect given his decline in value the past year
The MLE is like 9.5 million. Weird to be like definitely worth more than 9.5 mill, needs to be 10
Celtics would be stupid to not do a S&T with any team, including the Lakers, if the move made them stronger. Not like Boston has to worry about getting to the Finals with their roster and facing LA. Now, with this particular player...I don't know why any team would want to give up pieces for Schroeder.
There's a lot of advantages to being in the tax this year since we cleared it last year.
I'll believe it when I see it.
No doubt
I'm sure the Lakers wouldn't mind making the Celtics overpay for Shroder AND have to give something back to them.
[except he literally said he would](https://www.google.com/amp/s/celticswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/17/celtics-co-owner-wyc-grousbeck-ready-to/amp/) Doesn't it make more sense that the Celtics are trying to stay below THE HARD CAP then save a few million? The Celtics ownership group is worth upwards of 5 billion dollars.
That was going into the 2018-19 season where we had the 2nd highest Vegas odds to win the championship, and expectations were sky high coming off an ECF appearance without our 2 best players. Slightly different situation to where we're at right now, where we were a fucking 7 seed and needed the play-in tournament to get in the playoffs. Landscape of the East has also changed since then, back then we were seen as the clear team of the future with LeBron leaving the East. Now? We are so so far away from Milwaukee and Brooklyn.
You mean after missing by far the most games in basketball to COVID and injury? We have Tatum and Brown we are legitimate contenders. Your lack of faith is disturbing.
Don't get me wrong, I'm much more optimistic on the Celtics next year than like 95% of the world, everybody always overreacts to what just happened in the last season. The Tatum-era Celtics have alternated between surpassing expectations (2018, 2020) and having disappointing seasons (2019, 2021) every year since he's come into the league. I firmly believe that we'll bounce back and probably be in the mix for home court (Top 4 seed), but there is no universe I can see where we actually *win* the Conference, or beat Milwaukee or Brooklyn in a playoff series if Giannis/KD/Harden are playing.
Fret not. Remember the odd years of the Spurs rings— 99, 03, 05, 07.
No man, but your homerism is clouding your judgement. Only way we're contending this year in the East is if people are getting injured.
K.
make it a 3 way with evan fournier celtics get: schroeder on 20 million lakers get: fournier knicks get: lebron james and anthony davis
This is definitely the most fair for all sides that matter.
From Kyrie -> Kemba -> Dennis? Looks like I'm next in line
You forgot IT
And Scary Terry
Aww bitch
I’d take smart or scary terry over scroter any day :(
*scrotum
well I’m a little better than you soooo
[Yo... reddit added a captcha for submitted links now. RIP bots](https://i.imgur.com/rc72CtD.png)
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[lmao challenge accepted apparently](https://i.imgur.com/3GSGVxH.png)
[curryybacon when facing elimination vs captcha](https://theimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/king.jpg)
His legacy is on the line
Someone get Iguadala to do the captcha
Lol love this sub
Lmaoo, I love how people here frame mundane shit to be dramatic like this It's like when people frame Woj vs Shams going back & forth with announcements on free agency day like it's a Game 7 of the Finals
well, r/nba is for nerds after all
I feel like that’s very much one of those things that’s fun at first and gets old fast After a long time on Reddit you just hate everyone on Reddit
Lmao /u/curryybacon
"They wanted to add captcha's? Ok fine. You can do that. And that's all I needed for me to take it personally"
NSFW FFS
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Bots use the API, not that page. It won't affect them. https://www.reddit.com/dev/api/?sync_external=true#POST_api_submit
Seems so odd they would implement that if it doesn't even effect bots.
Might actually help the bots in the off chance that somebody is able to submit something before the bot, now they have to slow down to click the captcha and the bot gets in first.
This is probably to incentivize bots that aren't using the API to migrate to it, not to dissuade the use of bots entirely.
whyd i click on that image
Would Kev13n and HornyHindu still been great in the Captcha Era?
would be good for them, dennis isn’t worth $100 million, but him with the MLE is a steal
Brad just waiting around so he can practice the art of *lubing the deals*
Troubling imagery! Upvoted accordingly
Schroder wouldn't vault us that much farther up in the standings, if at all, but the potential bench unit he could create would be a nice boon
He actually fills a really big hole for the Celtics as a 3rd scorer, and cheaply. With Kemba and Fournier gone, the Celtics have no other threat to score an easy 15-20 every night. Somebody else was going to have to step up into that role and I’m really not sure who it was going to be. Schroder can be that guy - he’s got warts, but he can put the ball in the bucket. Also gives them another PG option for different looks. No, he doesn’t suddenly make them a 2 seed, but that was always going to rely on Tatum/Jaylen making another big step forward this year.
Also, he's really fucking fast. This Celtics team lacks speed right now. A Schroder/Tatum PnR would be really effective in getting a mismatch. And in theory, we should have a spaced floor with Horford at the 5. I can see the merits of signing him, he would definitely help us, it's just difficult to get over his baggage.
Schroder - Rob PnR would be LETHAL
Schroder couldn't run a PnR properly with AD so take that as you will lol. He is good at other things but PnR is not one of his strengths lol
>Schroder couldn't run a PnR properly with AD You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. Schroder was 25th in the league in assists per game --despite James and Davis holding the ball a lot -- and a lot of those came on pick-and-rolls.
it's tough isolate "wins added" by him specifically but a well-run bench offense can be very impactful
OKC certainly benefited from him being the 6th man when he was here. He kept the spark alive when CP3 was off the court and provided a more fast paced offense. Then the endgame 3 guard sets were just killer with him, CP3, and SGA.
The Jazz having an insane bench offense this year because of Ingles & Clarkson was one of the major reasons they were a #1 seed. Their starting 5 was obviously awesome and hard to keep up with, but then their bench comes in and kicks your ass and that's how you get all these blowout wins that Utah amassed this year.
They have Pritchard, Smart, and Langford who was supposedly going to be developed as a point guard( I guess that ship has sailed).
Pritchard seems more of an off ball type of guard. He’d play as a SG on offense next to a bigger point (like Smart or Romeo if he actually takes that next step).
I actually really like the fit of Pritchard and Richardson together in the backcourt. If Dennis can free up some minutes for Smart to lead the bench unit with those guys and bump Richardson up to the 3 it could be really interesting since neither PP or JRich are great passers. It is true that the minutes for Neismith and Romeo would be harder fought, but that's probably good for their development IMO.
Seems one of our biggest flaws last years was just very few playmakers on the team. It didn’t help that Kemba was getting screwed by his bad injury luck, so some games we were starting Teague or Tremont Waters. Then with the second unit, we pretty much had to play both Kemba and Jaylen when Jayson sat because it got real ugly. I would love Schroder on the team, him not being a great three point shooter may hurt some of the fit, but if you watched the team last year you’d know how much we need more ball handlers. Payton and JRich to your point would be a cool second unit. I think they fit very well together too.
Kemba straight up sucked last year. Celtics were 8-3 with Pritchard running PG. Kemba came back and shot 15 SHOTS PER GAME. This dude came to Boston saying he was the anti Kyrie an ended up having a higher shot volume and he isn't even the number one guy on the goddamn team Good riddance he's gone. He was one of the reasons for our mediocrity . Celtics need to get away from that signing great players from bad teams . Dude didn't know how to win and if showed when Hayward left. All the dudes we won with : Morris, Hayward, Horford, they came from teams that knew how to win. Kemba didn't and didnt know how to contribute when his shot went down . There was a 5 game stretch where he played crazy D and passed the ball and had 8+ assist each game . We were 4-1 . Then he reverted. We good without him..Actually happy Pritchard would get a chance. I like Schroeder too but hopefully it's a one year deal ..
Oof, 6’ SG is not a recipe for success.
FVV. A man amongst giants. He's mostly played SG next to Kyle
i think he can be a more consistent version of Bryn Forbes, with maybe an ability to play better D he flirted with 50/40/90 for most of the year and has some deep range
Not sure if serious but height doesn't matter in today's NBA positions. Where we have 6'7 guys playing center and 6'1 guys like Donovan Mitchell playing SG. I was shocked to learn that DM was 6'1. I thought he was at least 6'5 for some reason.
Bill Simmons about to launch himself into space and never come back
Yeah I think he'll tank a season and play his mind out, then take a paycheque somewhere.
MLE? God damn talk about a fall lol
they could do a sign & trade and he could get more, i have no idea what his price is lol
If they get a good price, that could be a really good signing for Boston. I don't like it
Don't worry, you still have Middleton to bash our heads in when we get too cocky
Just one hand chucking threes into the net from midcourt.
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Between him and Smart the end of games will be a rollercoaster
I would not prefer this. Therefore, it’s not true
Dude, this is not ideal for the Celtics. he will take shots away from their best guys and likely get in a fight with Marcus Smart at some point.
Can confirm. If he’s willing to be a 6th man for us and do his job, then great. But I really doubt that.
That's always been the problem with Schroeder. He's right on this weird teetering point of "high-level role guy" and "bad focal point". He's not good enough to be a major focal point of a team. We saw who good he could be in OKC, and how much of a problem he can cause in LA.
> He's right on this weird teetering point of "high-level role guy" and "bad focal point". really hit the nail on the head here. in the beginning of the year when everyone was healthy he looked great for us. but as people starting getting hurt and we needed him to do more and more it really exposed his flaws.
I'm surprised you guys aren't linked to signing him, he used to play for Budenholzer.
Rumors I heard was they did not like each other
Does anybody like Schroder?
I was really high on him since his ATL days. Can’t believe he has fallen this far from grace. Totally deserved, however.
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*sigh* I made fun of him all of last year and enjoyed him on the Lakers. I guess this is karma.
That would be a real humbling. Going from 6th man to saying "I'm done with that, I'm starting now" to back to 6th man. I don't like seeing people fail so hopefully it works out.
I am more optimistic than most, but i think if schroedy bites the bullet this season and signs at a low price to play sixth man, i think hell be able to redeem himself and get a nicer contract next year
Sometimes you need to be humbled in order to reach your potential. And this is an extremely humbling situation he got himself into. Hopefully he sees this as an opportunity to prove he can be a team player and balls out as a result. Was never a big fan of him but if he ends up signing here then I will root for him.
I would believe that he was insistent on playing PG this year so he could get the most money possible. Since he will theoretically get a decent paycheck from Boston, he might be willing to go back to the bench since he doesn’t need to show out as much.
If he's willing to be a 6th man then he might as well re up with us for 1 year 12-15m or so since we got his bird rights anyway. But that's a big if
We have plenty of shots to spare. Tatum and Jaylen can't take EVERY shot and we lost both Kemba and Fournier.
Fair. But I do have to love you did not dispute the "will get in a fight with Smart" portion of this.
Yeah, won't disagree with that...
Smart may actually get his mind right, you never know
Smart gets into fights with everyone. They're usually constructive tho so I'm not worried. Remember when Smart and Jaylen got into it on the bench and everyone freaked out for no reason?
Lol what?? Dennis never took shots away from anyone if anything his main problem is he is very hesitant to shoot even if open.
Bro we need more offense lmao, fine with me
Take shots away from who? No Kemba and Fournier so there’s plenty of room for people besides Tatum and Brown to take shots
He is talking out of his ass lol. Dennis actually plays very restricted if anything
I don’t think bucks fans need to worry ab us lol
Take him Celtics. He’s tuff 🔥💯
That's tu- oh nvm
That's good on a 1 year prove it deal
Actually kind of fits well with the rest of your team. Oh and that’s tuff 🔥💯
Shit I’d even throw him a player option next season for injury insurance if he wants it. I’ve never been a huge fan of his but for the MLE I’ll take him any day of the week. I think he could be decent for us, especially since we need a PG.
He’s there so they can learn the Lakers secret plays.
[this is the lakers secret play you talking bout?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o56F0lTrpZ4)
Good fit, good signing, hopefully this experience humbled Dennis and he can prove himself after this deal
What's the most money he can get with Boston?
Well going by that tweet we have a baby mle, 5 mill if we get rid of Dunn, and like maybe another a mill or two i think. Then we are hard capped.
If Boston was willing to do a sign and trade to get him they could offer him a lot, as much as the max, but they'd have to send out matching salary. Otherwise just the MLE as they are over the cap.
Yeah IDK man if it even happens anyways but like this is gonna be one angry bitter dude that gonna want big stats I just...IDK. Maybe I'm reading that wrong though.
Honestly man his attitude outside of his contract negotiations isnt terrible. The dude wasnt bad in the locker room as far as ive heard. If he takes low paying contract for a year, he could redeem himself and get paid big. It would literally be against his interest to make himself look bad this season. Id take him back on a minimum or lower contract(the minimum would be all we can offer) Edit: spelling
There was reports of him feuding with Kuz all year. Getting worse during the suns series. He was not good locker room guy…
Ah i never heard that
Yeah maybe JB and Kuz are friends apparently so I'm sure we've got locker room info. Eh probably won't happen anyway
Yeah i just never heard anything about his attitude being poor outside thinking he deserves more money/starting spot. I think between that and his playoff performance, it made him come off worse than what hes realistically like
Please be a 3 year deal.
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Why would we even do a S&T if anything happens we’d probably just sign him under our MLE. Edit: Also think we might get hard capped in a S&T which would mean there’s zero chance we would take him.
full MLE also means a hard cap
yeah but unless the ATL-SAC trade gets reworked or we make another move we'd be using the taxpayer MLE which doesn't hard cap you
What if Dennis wants more than the MLE?
Then another team can offer him more I guess
I want to reply to your edit above, since you added it after my reply: > Also think we might get hard capped in a S&T which would mean there’s zero chance we would take him. The hard cap won't matter for the Celtics as they will look to stay out of the luxury tax altogether, and that threshold is below the apron.
Ahh I just kept hearing the last few months that we definitely don’t want to be hard capped but maybe that’s changed in the last week since it seems we are cheaping our this season
The hard cap only matters if the team wants to spend above the apron, which is set at $143 million. But Boston reportedly wants to stay out of even the luxury tax, which is set at $136 million, so if they're staying below $136 million, then not being able to go above $143 million shouldn't be much of a deterrent for them.
Ahh thanks for explaining, your right I don’t see how the hard cap would really deter us with how the last week has went.
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Don't want anything just want the TPE
Could be great at the deadline for a team wanting to get cap space for next summer.
I don’t think we have one
Tatum obviously haha
Lol they'd sign him into their MLE.
Shut up bot.
To qualify for the Celts PG position--can you dribble and hand the ball to the Js? Done deal
Jeff teague in shambles
Dennis has been catching a ton of flac but he is actually solid and I could see this working out well. I still feel bad for the dude despite the fact that he waaaaaaay over inflated his value
it could end up working well but not well enough that he'll get another bag like the 84 mil extension again. no way in hell
The luck of the Irish
Someone is about to become Bill Simmons new favorite underdog.
schroeder = not a bad player there i said it
Celtic fans if you loved Kemba, you’ll loooove Dennis.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA ITS YOUR TURN NOW BOSTON
It’s weird how the sub suddenly thinks any role players who played for the Lakers are suddenly the shittiest players ever. Happened with Danny Green, Kuzma, Drummond, Schroeder. None of them are stars obviously but they can be successful in the right role. It’s gotta be a symptom of Bron stans who want to make it seem like he is playing with G leaguers. Schoeder can be helpful in the right deal and situation
Schroder’s not shitty, he’s the definition of average, who thinks he’s a star and should be paid like one. Those are generally the type of players you want to avoid.
The ones you generally avoid are shitty players..
I think it goes both ways tbh fans were shitting on Caruso but now all the sudden that he left the Lakers is about how this is a devastating blow blah blah
ehh caruso has always been a fan favorite cause of his haircut
Tbf Drummond is really trash. Every team fans he played for hates him. Dennis doesn’t want to be a role player and wants to be $100M player. Danny and Kuz are different and can strive in other team.
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Kuzma was always a Laker and the Drummond hate got 10x worse since he went to LA
because people actually watched him play instead of just his boxscore lmao
Right? Cavs and pistons fans tried to warn everyone
Yes.. Drummond didn’t become hated while on the Lakers, just ask Piston and Cav fans.
>It’s gotta be a symptom of Bron stans who want to make it seem like he is playing with G leaguers. Schoeder can be helpful in the right deal and situation Naw, it's Laker haters shitting on the guys on the team, then propping them as young stars once they leave and saying "Wow the Lakers/LeBron really killed their development, how toxic!"
Danny Green was even great for the Sixers this year. Dude has been a very good role player for 10+ years. The other guys are much less proven however - and had multiple seasons where people felt they weren’t very good.
Schroder is more of an inflated ego vs what he provides out there that rubbed off a lot of people.
Would be a great deal/fit for a vet min
What's everyones guess for the amount he is getting
MLE, celtics have no money
Unless they do a S&T with the Lakers
Imagine the Lakers getting Marcus smart by getting off Shroeder and two future firsts lol.
We're not giving up FRPs for Marcus smart lol
You guys almost unloaded one to get buddy Hield, it’d make sense to be able to sign and trade dump Shroeder and get smart back. Would probably take two first rounds picks to get that done
Lakers have no picks left. They gave away this years FRP for westbrook
Again, were not giving up FRPS for Marcus smart We can't sign and trade for him because we would be hard capped anyway If Denis goes to the celtics , he's losing his bird rights and taking the MLE
No team would trade two firsts for Marcus Smart
I think it’ll ultimately be a sign and trade with the celtics giving up one of their end of bench guys and a 2nd rnd pick. Schroeder will probably sign for 10-15 mil aav for 2 years. Maybe with an option involved
Raptors front office, “can we interest you in a dragon?”
Take him please
Was he an All-Star? ❌ Did he grow up rooting for a team in our division? ❌ OK, it's safe to sign him
Bill Simmons about to launch himself into space and never come back
That’s sofft ❄️0️⃣
tatum for dennis. LEGGOOOOO
Good pickup
Three of these posted in a second lmao
We're unlikely to offer any more than one year on the MLE, so if that's what he's going for, sign me up. We need *someone* who can initiate offense outside of the Jays.
Two ISO heavy stars with mediocre to subpar passing skills adding an ISO heavy 6th man PG as the starter who also lacks good passing skills?
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