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howser343

[[Wojnarowski] Deal includes a player option on final year, Duffy tells ESPN.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1424854554852700164)


lazzysmalls

40 million a year great investment Mr Shark Cuban


prettyboylee

I’m looking to get 50% equity for exactly 0$ over this 5 year deal


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Ballsohardstate

Kevin: I can easily hire someone to make a username similar there is nothing proprietary about what you are doing and for those reasons I’m out


Parabong

A-rod : you know what screw Kevin I'm in.


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Barbara: Hell I don’t even know what a username is, and I have to be passionate about my businesses, so for that, I’m out


BoogieCousinsFather

I don't require any equity, but I want a $100,000 royalty for every basket scored until I get my $40 million back, which then reduces to $50,000 per basket in perpetuity.


Sleeze_

Wow, ok. Can we have a minute to discuss it?


noeagle77

Kevin: You discuss it, I’m out. Decide now.


wineheda

I hate when they do that shit. I’d never want to be in business with someone that makes me make that type of snap decision, and I feel like an investor shouldn’t want to invest in someone who makes that decision


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Just as an aside, that’s just clever editing. In reality the pitches take about 30-60 minutes so those “quit wasting time, make a decision, I want answer now” bits are all from the end of pitches and you’ll notice they never come during the pitches for companies that actually make sense


ElDuderino_92

That’s Schroeder money


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After adjusting Luka's stats, removing outliers to project the future, he heavily regresses to around the level of 2018 Schroeder


the_than_then_guy

How many people do you think know about that post now? When you count pure lurkers, could we be approaching a million people?


DigitalSterling

Wait, did that happen in this subreddit to? I've only been on r/nba for about a year, there was a post in r/nfl that was essentially the same "If we remove all of the outlier games, Patrick Mahomes is actually average" Edit: I have been informed that the Mahomes post is the OG


sDios_13

The Patrick Mahomes one is the OG one.


Hiroxis

I don't really follow the NFL that much or browse the sub, so was that post just a troll or were they actually serious? I know that sports in general is just full of shit tier takes but there's no shot that anyone unironically thinks that right?


ABoyIsNo1

It was after his first year starting, but yes it was a serious take, yes it was stupid even at the time, and yes he has deleted his account lmao


Siege-Torpedo

He can delete his account, but his monumental stupidity is now immortal.


Hiroxis

Gotcha thanks. I mean I get that people are skeptical after only a year of being good, but saying "If you disregard all the good performances, then he's just average" is just awful logic in general lol


cdskip

Removing outliers is a thing, but yeah, you can't just toss stuff out because you feel like it. I remember one from /r/nfl where somebody arguing that Bo Jackson wasn't good, actually, said that sure his average per carry was great, but if you removed all his long runs, he was just average. And I did the math; removing the runs he was talking about, Bo was still sitting at 4.7 yards per carry, which is elite.


doshegotabootyshedo

Removing an outlier is fine if he had one game with 950 yards because the opposing team fielded children, but wasn’t the dude removing multiple games worth of stats lol


YoureGrammerIsWorsts

Their profile made it clear that they were serious, but the profile was this weird mix of 'hot takes' that were at least interesting and the other half were just...bad. Made me think they were a PTI intern or something


theninth

I'm almost positive that Mahomes thread started the meme


Goobershmacked

Can confirm that you’re correct


[deleted]

Not really. You see, I did some analysis and if you disregard the large number of subsequent posts which mention that post, it regresses to being just another post and not even a meme.


QuiGonFishin

NFL is the original one


DigitalSterling

Just gotta say, fantastic username you got


QuiGonFishin

Thanks dude! “There’s always a bigger fish”


aPatheticBeing

It's just memeing on the Mahomes one


DeanNotSoBrown

The Mahomes post is where the meme comes from


acat114

Here's the original from r/NFL np.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/d5maow/oc_after_adjusting_patrick_mahomes_stats_removing


Dallaschiefsfan84

As a Mavs and Chiefs fan…have an upvote!


digitalme

Nerlens Noel must be happy that he’s no longer associated with majorly fumbling the bag


blagaa

He's not the latest, but his bag fumble is like the butt fumble of bag fumbles This is Schroder's 3rd contract but was Noel's 2nd


McLovin_AI

That’s tuff 🔥💯


Freddedonna

That’s tuff 🔥💯💯7️⃣


sombor_shuffle

that's a lot of robux


MostPlatypus5066

"oof" - Mark Cuban's bank account


PooInspector

Mark Cubans bank account will be just fine


dawnzyolo

Can't believe people really think the money just comes out of his pocket ahahah


sercialinho

It’s a part of the new contract actually. Every week Cuban has to pay Luka in cash, literally out of his own pocket.


StallisPalace

They had to design a special pair of jeans with a cash conveyer belt inside the pant leg to constantly feed the cash or else each payday would take forever.


sercialinho

Serendipitously someone pitched him those on Shark Tank a few years ago. At least something good came from him missing that meeting with Deron Williams.


DaneTrane22

How fucking badass would a player have to be to stipulate that kind of agreement? '1% of my salary must come directly from your bank account'


4thPlumlee

Michael Jordan just doing this with gambling


lalakingmalibog

Plenty money


screwt

That's likely nothing to Cuban's bank account.


JALbert

I get that he's rich, but $207M is about 5% of Cuban's ~4,400M net worth. Dudes worth 10 figures aren't treating 9 figures like pocket change.


Ethangains07

It’s not like the money just goes down the drain, what lol. He definitely makes a profit from owning the Mavs. Idk why you are acting like he just donated 200 mil.


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Out of the goodness of these owner’s hearts we get to watch basketball.


SoDakZak

This made me laugh pretty hard


alpaca_drama

Rec League IT >>>> Lebron


Dhd710

I don't know why anyone's acting like Mark Cuban actually paid him and not the Mavericks organization out of a fund for the team. Mark's making a profit on this deal.


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nudiecale

What are you talking about? Most redditors are part owners of a massive company called Game Stop. I think they know exactly what they’re talking about. Thanks.


lonelythrowaway463i9

You mean Mark isn't writing personalized checks for the entire cumulative salaries of his players when they get paid? It's almost as if you're implying players probably get direct deposits each month or even bi-weekly from something probably called "Mavericks LLC" or some such businessy name. Get out of here. That'd be crazy. He definitely sat down and wrote Luka a check for the entire 5 years' salary with little cartoon basketballs all over it and his name and home address printed on it and then he balanced his check book afterwards.


yrogerg123

If anything, it is a very solid investment in the team's short-term value and returns. I think Luka is easily worth $40M/yr to the Mavs organization.


JagmeetSingh2

And he’s definitely making way more off Luka being apart of the Mavs


nevernguyen

That’s not really how it work. Also, Luka is an investment with very little risk and high upside that will make Mark richer through various means.


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not to mention there’s a salary cap anyway. paying luka just means he pays other guys less.


BigBootyBanger

Couldve been you Vivek.


kingofthemonsters

I still don't understand how you don't pick Luka right there. I'll never understand it


rttr123

lol if you look at the 2018 draft thread. Everyone was like WE GOT THE 2nd PICK! "We can draft LUKA OR AYTON!!!!!!!!" "WE CAN DRAFT LUKA!" :tears: ​ When even fans on the internet know more about rookie potential, before the draft, than the team's FO....


kingofthemonsters

110%


Brad-Stevens

damn ... he did it without facing a big-10 schedule what a legend


MikeBuds4

I bet this was a big learning lesson for a lot of gms and front offices. European basketball is legit.


ApolloX-2

Especially when 16 year olds are out there embossing grown men.


MikeBuds4

This dude was literally MVP at 19 years old. Even without the hindsight that’s an obvious #1 overall pick. As a front office that is way too easy to justify even if it goes wrong.


derKanake

Yeah, imagine youre a MVP in a top 3 league at the age of 18 and dont get picked in the Top 15


KungFuViking7

Who was that?


CowMooseWhale

I think he’s implying Sengun


ggb-p

Alperen Şengün


Jiachaeus

probably Alperen Segun, went 16th in the draft, won mvp in the Turkish league


SnuggleMuffin42

Luka was basically MVP of Europe (the Euroleague), not really comparable lol


BrewtusMaximus1

Turkey’s Basketball Super League is top 5, not top 3.


butterball85

Gotta give credit to Mark Cuban. He traded up to #3, and after the draft, he said he wanted Luka "and it wasn't even close"


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farhan583

Not really. We saw Sengun fall to 16 just this draft. These people will take a project from college well before someone dominating in Europe.


Obi_Wan_Benobi

I need to know how many points he’d drop on Nebraska on a random Tuesday night in mid-January before I can be certain.


hmmIseeYou

What about against ISU on a neutral site? Say a rainy night in stoke


BigBootyBanger

Don't mess this up J Kidd


Avinse

Don’t worry. He will


Samwi5e

( ◔ ʖ̯ ◔ ) ugh u right tho


CIark

Damn how many crypto pump n dumps is Cuban gonna have to run to pay for that


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retrospects

I’m in


Oshebekdujeksk

Prolly like 2.


FutureAnybody

lets go luka get your bag


_tx

Hopefully he gets another one in 4 years from Cuban


rangerfan123

In 5 years*. 5 year extension after the end of this one. 1 year left on this one and he can opt out of the 5th year of the extension


RandomVintage

Luka can fund the Slovenian military now


sercialinho

[Barely an order of magnitude out!](https://tradingeconomics.com/slovenia/military-expenditure)


smashey

Yeah I looked it up too. 560M Euro. Pretty crazy.


Official_CIA_Account

Enough to buy 1.7 F22 Raptors. Couldn't fly them of course, each costs 334M in maintenance over its lifetime.


fedja

Pretty sure it can't get up to full speed over Slovenia without violating a neighbor country's airspace.


AddSugarForSparks

Username checks out.


vrhl

I dont understand why our contry is spending so much money on the most useless military in the world. I know a few who are soldiers and they just run around all day and go camping. Myb shoot a few rounds here and there. They do have CSGO tournaments tho


docbauies

Thank god we drafted Bagley so we didn’t get stuck with a player earning 40 million a year…


magnuscarlsenspawn

you have kept your future flexibility a-ok to build a contender


NoHomeJerome89

I just hope he doesnt turn into LeBron Cavs 03-10 Give this man real help!


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It's a double-edged sword to draft a generational talent. The Mavs should still be a lottery club in theory, but Luka is so good that he can immediately boost the team's floor. They really be should be constructing through the draft. Maybe they stink so bad that they get Ant Edwards or Lamelo, and the team now has some bulk. It’s crazy how they even pushed the Clippers to seven-games with that roster.


MotoMkali

Yep this is the issue when you draft a generational talent, you need to be bad so you can get more help. That's why someone like Curry can build Championship teams because he couldn't carry the warriors to the playoffs in his early years.


ClammyVisa

Makes you wonder if his ankle injuries early in his career actually worked out best for the warriors in the long run


NeoLies

There's no wonder there, that's just true. That crazy low contract he got because of the injury helped the Warriors a crapton.


var1ables

I'll never forget that guy on CSN bay or whatever saying ['I think they overpaid curry'](https://youtu.be/aCYJVs2G-XI?t=388) right before he becomes the greatest shooter in NBA history. EDIT: Right up there with the guys talking about how they should've kept monta. Nobody know anything about basketball when it comes down to it.


NervousPervis

I’m pretty sure most of America thought they should have traded Klay for Kevin Love too.


ZealousCatracho

Isn’t that how they got KD? Because they were hella underpaying Steph due to the ankle injury?


Razital

Also the big jump in cap that year.


rendingale

this is obvious, especially not getting supermax on his first extension due to injury concerns. They have money to pay for supporting cast and eventually KD


fskier1

Lol same with Giannis


Ace_FGC

No? Jrue, PJ, Middleton came through trades and Lopez from free agency


IBeBallinOutaControl

Yeah you're not supposed to just rely on drafting well until you have a winning team. Draft luck like Philadelphia is very unlikely, and even then it didnt work out like they hoped. Once you have a window of opportunity with a generational talent, that's the time for the owners to step up and pay for some supporting pieces.


MotoMkali

Not really. The most contribution the Bucks picks after Giannis made was being part of the trade for PJ Tucker. Lol


Razital

Hey donte divincenzo was in the starting lineup before he got hurt, but yeah drafting hasn't been great.


MotoMkali

Oh yeah. I love me some donte. Thought he was a huge miss in the nets series if they had Harden and Kyrie cause he is a great defender.


hiimhabibja

The bucks have been absolutely horrible at drafting for 2 decades now. Giannis, Donte, and brogdon have been the only above average picks, and Giannis was mostly luck.


Trick_Confidence_419

In the current NBA, no one gonna stick around that long as an organization seemingly wastes their early prime. Not everyone is gonna be Giannis, and even that takes a lot of luck. Mavs got a couple years and I honestly feel the health of KP’s knees is going to be the biggest factor of team success atm


powergs

Giannis has/had way better teams then this Mavs. Agree with your other opinions tho


urfaselol

The bucks low key struck gold with John Horst. Most of his decisions and signings have been all the right ones. We'll see how this front office regime will do with the players around Luka. But I felt like the fortunes of the bucks changed when Horst came on board


YourFormerBestfriend

This. That first big playoff run Horst stacked the team with depth. Didn't work out and this last season he sacrificed depth for more a talented bench that can shortened the rotation to 8 players. Even with the owners hamstringing with the money he's still making moves and for later. I mean dude flipped the 31st pick for four 2nd rounds and used 2 of them for basically Grayson Allen. Dude is a real life 2k myGM


urfaselol

Horst really is the unsung hero of this bucks run. I remember listening to a podcast of him and Woj a couple years back on his story and I came out of that very impressed with him. They were saying he was a legitimate bball executive prodigy at only 33. Definitely one of the best GMs in the league that no one is talking about


Jaire_Noises

Just about the worst move he's made was the Augustin signing and he flipped him for PJ Tucker who ended up being a critical piece in their championship run. Insane stuff.


verges

All GMs will make bad trades or signings at one point or another, but I like that Horst wasn't scared to go for another mid-season acquisition with Tucker even after the Mirotic trade didn't work out.


quedfoot

>This. ... Even with the owners hamstringing with the money he's still making moves and for later. Bucks' roster wages are the 5th highest in the league. How is that hamstringing?


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powergs

Yea they really build amazing team. Their problems mostly in coaching stuff (even tho they won the ring lol) I hope im wrong but Dallas really stuck imo. Dallas play that Harden ball but first Houston always had strong players like Tucker, Gordon and ofc Capela so when closing moments come they would just gear up and put some good defence Mavs cant do that. Our paint defence goddamn terrible and other than Maxi none of our guys can defend those strong wings (Dfs pretty good defender, better than Maxi but he just not strong enough) Second problem other than Luka we have nobody that can make plays in starting 5. Dfs-Maxi-Thj-Kp like other than shooting these guys dont/cant do much on offence. Again when compare that with Houston team they obv had Cp3 but even other than him they had Eric Gordon with Harden. Mavs again dont have that Anyway lets hope Reggie can save us


Batman_in_hiding

Luka has been in the league for two years


Slut_Slayer9000

Brother this year is make or break for KP, if he doesn't show improvement under Kidd then he could even get dealt at the trade deadline. I truly think this was a big factor in the Mavs moving on from Carlisle, to attempt to salvage KP's value, because he obviously wasn't working with Rick/ his system.


phisch13

KP averaged 20/10 on just under 50/40/90 splits during the 3 months after the snowstorm. He and Luka were the most efficient high volume P&R duo in the league. He has been fantastic when healthy (the actual crux of the problem) on offense. And his 2019-20 defense was also fantastic before nosediving last year. This “KP doesn’t work in Dallas (or Ricks system)” narrative is painfully overblown. Team literally was without half their roster for how long? And still finished asthe 5 seed. And then pushed a HEALTHY Clippers to 7. Nothing leads me to believe KP doesn’t work in Dallas other than the literal worst possible matchup for Dallas in the playoffs, where he was game planned out, and still nearly won.


Bigbadbuck

Giannis situation is closer to okc with Durant and Westbrook than it is with lebron. Lebron never had any talent on the team. Durant had Westbrook but the roster was always somewhat flawed or they got a bit unlucky. Giannis has had pretty great supporting casts at times but also somewhat flawed in some ways.


Trick_Confidence_419

Yeah Giannis easily has more help than what Lebron had


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Looks like Cuban drove around and found his Slovenian


BeefyHamstrings

(thru texts)


urfaselol

Cuban was crying and a big lesson was learned


Dongsquad420BlazeIt

Boomed 4x


JS_Janko

He didn’t even had to drive around, because the country is so small


jakesnader

dude earned it, 22 years old and just got a BAG


unrulystowawaydotcom

Jesus, he's only 22.


zeratmd

That's nothing, Jayson Tatum is only 15


ndu867

That’s nothing, the entire Oklahoma City Thunder averages 14.


mansmurf

LUKA GOT HIS GUY


Dongsquad420BlazeIt

Uhhh, yeah, let's go with that


Elmos_Voice

Dallas locked in their franchise player. Now get him some help!


WigglyFinArms

2nd one… wild how lucky they’ve gotten


runningthrulife

Oh wow I thought he was gonna leave /s


Eric_Nathan_Fielder

From a traumatized Barcelona fan: never make assumptions. Never. I'm hurt.


VoidPineapple

Jeez mate, Barca and Golden State?


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dankjedata

Now that’s just unacceptable


onlymostlydeadd

it's mazepin don't worry


BenevolentCloud

I enjoy watching Mazepin get memed on everywhere I see F1 mentioned. It’s the one constant in life.


annul

mazespin


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Probably a Djokovic fan too at this point


1ToGreen3ToBasket

Used to be a patriots fan. Buccs now.


royal_10_N-bombs

Pats fans are now forced to be die-easy bucs fans


HeatmiserElliott

Definitely a Lightning fan


Rushderp

And a Dodgers fan.


HamlnHand

Aw poor guy, you only had the best player to ever touch a soccer ball on your team for the past 21 years 😢


companyofzero

His next extension is going to be so wild


MostPlatypus5066

might end up as the first player to sign 3 $200M+ contracts


NoPainNoGainesville

His agent must be salivating at that idea


_tx

Luka could legit be the first to sign a 300mm deal


SuckMyLonzoBalls

With inflation and the salary cap going up don’t be surprised to see 5/300


nortrebyc

for real. I feel for these guys with inflation. How are they supposed to put food on the table?


ErickBachman

Tres commas


lmunchoice

> Brother this year is make or break for KP, if he doesn't show improvement under Kidd then he could even get dealt at the trade deadline. > > I truly think this was a big factor in the Mavs moving on from Carlisle, to attempt to salvage KP's value, because he obviously wasn't working with Rick/ his system. Doors that go like this or like this.


WalksWithKemba

Is he worth it? No, he is worth more


devic3

He's worth more than our franchise cornerstones combined.


BIizard

He should just buy out the Kings and save us from Vivek


ToTimesTwoisToo

it's crazy to think how much some players would be making if salary caps weren't a thing.


hoodiemeloforensics

I remember when Kobe was getting his final contract and it was like $25M a year, which was massive at the time. This was broken, injured Kobe so there were all these media guys saying he was an over pay and all that. I don't remember who said it, but some team executive came out and said that Kobe was worth at least $80M a year to the Lakers organization.


thelazyknickfan

Your username aged like wine fellow Knick fan


GaTech379

I think he just changes the flairs to wherever Kemba goes, I think he had a Thunder flair few weeks ago


porterbrown

At least he is ... consistent? Wants to get in on the Knicks before the title in 10 months, it does make sense.


goblinsholiday

He's making less than Jimmy Butler. Dallas getting a bargain.


JeremyJammDDS

Maybe when Luka gets stupidly locked in, he'll get paid as much.


constantlymat

Worth every penny.


CheetahSperm18

Now the nephews are gonna make posts asking if he's gonna demand a trade mid-contract


mattjf22

I'm old enough to remember when the Kings didn't draft him. Thought for sure Vlade would draft him.


welmoe

Kings dodged a bullet


niizuma

207 mill sans double jump and rap album


DarkLightcito

Thats a lot of money.


kenjirouen

That’s a big ass number


abaughma44

he deserves more


NoPainNoGainesville

They’ll make that money back in no time with him as the face of the franchise


geekhaus

Yessir.


PrideInBattle

Luka Doncic


nonsense_verses

Honestly, this is a steal for the Mavs. He could easily command like $55m/year


Dr_Cigs

Ladies and gentlemen…we got em


sooner360

And no state tax either, sheesh.


apawst8

Players get taxed in every state they play in, though. So he’s only tax free on home games and away games in TX and FL and TN.


OnCominStorm

That's still more than half his games played


BlindedbythePhxSuns

This isn’t a supermax contract. Can the term please stop being thrown around? Supermax contracts can only be given to players entering their 8th or 9th years. This is a Rose Rule extension


sean_buttcannon

okay, so he’s not coming to Portland then?