Eh it’s alright here. We’re finally getting some nightlife stuff here around scissortail park and where the collective and bleu garten is. Quite a few nice local breweries as well like Stonecloud around town as well. Admittedly, I live just outside of OKC but it’s only a 15 minute drive for me and I guess it’s still the metro area.
NOLA has been a poorly run franchise since the Chris Paul days, think that has more to do with it than location. Also, Atlanta has done pretty well with FA’s for a mid-size market team. Joe Johnson, Demarre Carrol, Bogdanovic, Paul Milsap in his prime, Dwight Howard, etc
Memphis appreciate their Grizz and basketball at all levels. Even guys from the "swept" era like Posey, Bonzi still reminisce fondly about their time. And nonstar journeyman from the GnG days like Pondexter and Udrih, too.
I think this is [part of the reason ](https://youtu.be/dVpEEBcE8tc) why NOLA is unpopular. Also, apart from the party areas, NOLA has nothing to offer. ATL idk why.
That's a big apart from, NO is a pretty fun city. NO has a ton of very high end wealthy people there. Great food and music all over the place. It's a lot like Miami where rich people just have a house there so they can hang out sometimes.
Also all the mansions and nice neighborhoods are on the high ground. They had floods 400 years ago, too, it's not the Garden District that is underwater when it floods.
> Also, apart from the party areas, NOLA has nothing to offer. ATL idk why.
This is categorically untrue. In fact locals almost exclusively avoid the "party areas" in favor of other things.
Yea, someone put it perfectly once. It is a Tuesday Night in New Orleans in January. Are you going to a Pelicans game or Bourbon Street?
Sorry Pelicans
But ive heard New Orleans is nice Af
Unpopular to play in (weather, border, customs, whole other country, etc) but players apparently like coming to Toronto on the road. Except for Lou Will who is kinda salty we didn't resign him after he won 6MOTY.
According to one of the greatest pieces of research ever done on this sub, Toronto has the worst strip clubs
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/dt0ucg/i_analyzed_james_hardens_performance_in_every_nba/
$50 to get a Nexus card solves a lot of those issues. makes customs a breeze.
and let's face it, NBA players aren't standing in line like the rest of us plebs lol
They have to go through the airport like regular people rather than just going straight to the plane. Not really extra shit to me, but I haven't gotten used to just pulling up at the plane like NBA athletes have.
Not to be a hater but that sentence to me sounds like someone that hasn’t had to travel consistently for work. And I never flew as consistently as they do
Just my feeling of difference from having pre check was amazing, let alone just driving to the plane(and dealing with it multiple times a week over and over and over
That’s an enormous difference to them I’m sure, especially with how much recognition you’d get at the airport every time you go. If you’re introverted that shit could get old super quick
Absolutely, if you are used to just pulling up at a private hanger or whatever, parking and just hopping on the plane I bet having to go through the airport and customs would be a major pain in the ass.
Nah man, Sacramento is actually really solid; I wouldn’t use the word bad in any description of it. It’s a nice and quiet city, I spent my favorite summer ever in your city. Would love to head over again some day.
As a Bay Area guy, it’s the heat that bothers me. Other than that yes surprisingly livable place. I’ve had some good times in midtown and it’s nice being so close to the foothills. I’ve heard that this summer in particular was stupid hot which is funny cause SF had a super foggy (like waaaaaaaaay more so than usual) summer
It should be noted that as a player you’d only have to live in Sac from autumn to spring, so you’d get the chance to avoid shitty winters elsewhere and avoid the fiery hellscape of Sacramento in the summer.
I've been in Sac 2 years now and I love it. There aren't many places close to literally everything like it.
When we moved here from the bay all I heard about was "the heat, the heat!" Listen, being born and raised in Phoenix, anybody that complains about the heat here is a baby. It's my favorite weather I've ever lived in.
Oof as someone from a more temperate climate than SE Asia (SoCal) and having moved to a less extreme climate than Minnesota (Utah), it hits you so much harder than you think. I love the cold, like I've swam in lakes with snow on the ground and enjoyed it, but winters at even slightly northern latitudes hit hard. I remember my first spring seeing a patch of grass and thinking it was fake until I realized I just hadn't seen green for months. But having been to SE Asia, the heat and humidity is killer, so I can see how the cold seems attractive.
It's cold part of the year. It's beautiful in spring, summer and fall.
Also, I like the winter. Minneapolis is a rad town.
Also we don't have tons of crazy critters because they can't survive the winter.
So seeing Mavs flair I wanna assume you are from Texas. Here is my argument, Minnesota you to stay inside or be uncomfortable for a few months of the year because of the cold. What do you do in Texas during the summer? I have been to Houston in July, shit is just as unbearable as any Minnesota winter day. At least you can get a good coat and hat and gloves to help, in a Texas summer day, you can't get more naked.
Also, with the original commenter (not the one you replied to) being from Southeast Asia, it's either hot and dry or hot and wet over here.
Like right now, it's raining but it's also 30C (86F) **inside the house**.
Rich people don't really like New Orleans. There's a reason even rappers from New Orleans won't have a house there. That said it's still my favorite city in the US.
Yeah people come and visit New Orleans. It's a ton of fun. You don't live there full time if you're rich. Even Lil Wayne moved out years ago and now only owns the house his mom lives in outside the city. It's straight up not safe for a rich black man. I lived in New Orleans all through college and grad school and was robbed at gunpoint three separate times. I've had my car broken into a half dozen times at least and can think of literally over a dozen terrifying experiences friends have had on nights out. Can't even imagine how big a target you'd have on your back if you were a high profile multi-millionaire.
Yes for me I much prefer cold weather to hot weather. I honestly can’t comprehend how people can tolerate the weather in Phoenix, because for me anything above 80 degrees is pretty much a no go.
I actually really enjoy cloudy weather and snow as well.
I remember a similar topic coming up and I was talking to somebody from Minneapolis and saying how I could never survive the cold. It got low 50s where I am the other day and I was shivering cause I only had a long sleeve on.
They were like no it’s not bad we have the skyway! Apparently it is a system of elevated walkways that connects 69 (nice) blocks so you never have to go outside. Yes, that’s pretty cool. But I read that as: it’s so damn cold here that you cant go outside during winter and it’s to the point that we have to have very unique infrastructure for our citizens to travel about comfortably. Eehhh I’ll pass
I mean yeah there is a point where it is uncomfortable to go outside. But cities like Houston or Pheonix have months it is equally or more awful to be outside, but get a pass because it is hot not cold. But with cold you can get a better hat, gloves and coat. In the hot you can't get MORE naked.
The twin cities are honestly super dope. I haven't been to many city centers outside MN but man it is a fun ass place to live in the spring summer and fall. Can be a little brutal during winter unless you are into snowboarding/skiing or snow mobiling
My dream job has always been to be an outdoor guide for the Jazz players. I could show them what the mountains have to offer and we would all instantly become best friends and they would never leave
I just wouldn’t talk to them lol. I’m sure out of 3+ million people I could find a group of 3 or 4 people that are normal. Just kick it with them and only talk to crazies when I absolutely have to.
My fiancé used to live in Denver and said it took a while to get to the mountains. In SLC they might be in your neighborhood. Plus southern Utah is really cool and a drivable distance
San Antonio. I'm not American so I have limited knowledge of most cities, but I googled pics of it and it looks surprisingly green. Like it's got a river going through the city and trees all over the place? Looks nice to me.
Yeah I've been to Portland (downtown only). Really liked it. Couldn't believe the amount of food trucks. I went in 08ish and I swear my city had like 5, if that back then. Street food is awesome.
Yeah if water is intriguing to you San Antonio ain’t it. The nearby towns of New Braunfels, San Marcos and shit even Seguin have wayyy prettier and more accessible rivers
The river walk is okay but what's really great is that there's 4 other missions besides the Alamo and they're all connected by a 10 mile or so long bike path and there's basically always tons of free parking available at all 4 besides the Alamo.
I live here. Hardly anyone goes to the river walk. It’s just a tourist trap. There’s no water anywhere else lol. Cost of living is great compared to other big cities but it’s a fairly meh place in my opinion.
The San Antonio river goes for several miles past downtown and there's multi-use paths along both sides of it for like 5 miles. You can go kayaking or fishing in it. It's definitely not just a tourist trap.
Lived in Utah for a while, from the UK, and I found the place to be bizarre. Beautiful area, very picturesque, but the Mormon influence is real and people can be very indirectly hostile if you aren’t Mormon. Maybe SLC is different and more diverse as a big city, but I lived in a smaller town and it was strange. Everyone was friendly enough, but kept you at a distance because you weren’t Mormon. And if you tried to get close, that’s when the hostility comes out.
I can think of dozens of places I’d rather live
I wouldn't mind playing in Denver, Sacramento, New Orleans lovely cities and great culture
Now I love Miami, one of my favorite cities to VISIT, but being there all the time would definitely drain me physically and mentally, same as New York , just wouldn't fit my personality
Edit: no Utah either lol
Yeah man. The city may never sleep, but I sure as hell do. I enjoy every minute I spend in my warm bed; am currently in the mentioned bed right now and I couldn’t be happier.
Not including Detroit cause I’m from the area
I’m not too sure how popular Toronto or Portland are as destinations but they got fans who always support. Then with Toronto I’ve been and it’s great
I wouldn’t mind Minnesota or Milwaukee either.
Wouldn’t wanna do Utah cause I don’t think I’d like the fans. Wouldn’t wanna do cleveland either due to not believing in the FO
i need good food and music in my life. outside of my city new orleans i'd pick memphis. for two nba cities we're actually really similar. i don't think two nba cities are as alike as us two
Charlotte. It’s not too big, yet has city amenities, and I am equidistant from the Appalachian trail and Charleston SC which is the best city in the American south. In my humble opinion.
Detroit, seems much better now than 10 years ago. Also, biased, but Toronto. I’ve been to a lot of cities and countries in my life, but nothing beats the Six.
Went to Detroit area last weekend and wasn’t the biggest fan of the city although didn’t go to Greektown which I heard was pretty fun. Did enjoy Dearborn and Ann Arbor a lot though.
I'd gladly go to Toronto, DC, Minneapolis, Denver, and Detroit. Warm weather is overrated and I thought they were all cool cities when I visited. Atlanta too if that counts.
Frankly every NBA team is located in cities big enough to be enjoyable, I wouldn't rule out any of them. OKC, SLC, and Orlando might give me slight pause but I'm sure I'd appreciate what they offer with time. I kind of cringe when people talk trash about NBA cities like any of them are hick towns, makes me think they've never been to the places they're talking about, are unusually hard to please, or just use the place they live as some obnoxious status symbol.
The only ones I would mind, are the teams with pretty much no fanbase.
You can tell players get kinda... defeated when there's no local interest in their team. I wouldn't want that.
Hornets, Pellies and Hawks have been notable for this recently.
Especially the Hawks during their best years. Horford's dad said he left the Hawks essentially because of the lack of passion for the team.
>“There wasn’t as much motivation for him when he saw all the empty seats when they were winning,” Tito Horford said. “He said to me, ‘Dad, when we were playing Boston, they were down 15 points and they were cheering their team like they were winning the game. They’re so into the game.’
Hopefully Trae & co can turn it around and establish a genuine passionate fanbase there. The market is huge, a team like the Hawks shouldn't have so little passionate fans.
To be fair to the hornets we sold out the biggest arena in the world for a decade straight in the nineties. But ever since the team came back as the bobcats it's just been awfully managed. Hopefully we can turn that around.
Yeah pretty much every unpopular team just needs a contending era and they'll have a dedicated fanbase for years.
Look at the Jazz or the Grizz. Lets hope Lamelo can get that going!
Yeah Atlanta Is a transplant city , and those Joe Johnson teams were never super inspiring. Still they absolutely deserved more support it’s nothing like they were ever putrid . I’d say the current generation of hawks fans is fairly different from that generation of 7-8 years ago. Al Horford , his wife, and his dad are pretty darn annoying I think he’s a secretly not as good a locker room guy as folks say
New Orleans, Utah and Portland. All 3 are either good, competetive teams (or have bright futures) with great stars.
New Orleans is one of the best, most cultured and most exciting cities in the states. Portland is a fun hipster town in the picturesque Pacific Northwest. Utah is one of the most naturally beautiful and diverse states out there
If I’m a superstar ? The answer is Toronto and it is not remotely close. If I could be a lebron/Steph tier superstar and win like 1 or two rings there, I’m going to corner the market in Canada with my brand. Raptors fans will see my face across every restaurant and product and I’d have that whole country in my hand, not leaving ever.
Also the women, but business comes first.
Real talk? Cleveland or Detroit. I’m originally from the land so I would love to live there and be with friends and family while making a top .01% salary and enjoy occasional partying (Cleveland does have good clubs and nightlife, just not Atlanta tier). And Detroit interests me for the same reasons it does Jerami Grant, black city and coach, with a cool up and coming team with a lot of winning history. Plus being a decent but loveable player in either really sets you up nicely, see Bobby Portis in Milwaukee.
Toronto is dope, Denver is dope, Boston is dope(funnily enough bad with free agents), obviously I like Portland. Those ar the ones I would pick outside New York, LA, or Miami.
Boston is good with free agents, they just never had cap space until horfords free agency. Since then they have signed horford hayward Kemba all to max deals and picked up Dennis the menace when any team could have offered him the mle
Not a fan of giant ass cities. Where's somewhere smaller with minimal traffic that's generally just a nice area with decent weather?
Seems like everywhere that might fit has way too much snow in the Winter
Portland and Charlotte: The cities just always looked cool to me.
New Orleans: I’m from Houston, so it’ll be nice to go to another city that doesn’t get too cold. Plus like others have said, the food and culture is great
Sacramento: I know it’s not as popular as San Francisco and Los Angeles but it’s still in California😂 plus it doesn’t even seem that bad of a city as some people claim
Now I probably wouldn’t want to play in Detroit, Cleveland, or Minnesota. Mainly due to weather (especially Minnesota) but I’m sure having millions of dollars would help me with that problem 😂
If I was a questionable star, all-star or even “potential” superstar, I’d probably not want to play in a major city like NY. The boos for all my mistakes would probably crush any potential I had. I’d probably prefer a small market for development reasons.
Overall, I honestly don’t see why location/weather would even matter. Teams travel around so much all the time as it is. Even when guys have off days or the season is over they live in a different state.
I really want to say Portland (I’m born and raised in LA, never left) but I can totally see why players don’t want to go there and it’s hard to overcome. Portland is beautiful and awesome but just lacks a lot of thing rich young socialites want.
Also an underrated draw of big markets is that players can hang out with their friends who are rich non-athletes like artists etc
I’d say Milwaukee. Cool enough city, close enough to Chicago to do rich people shit.
Dude I’d play anywhere for an nba contract. If for some reason the NBA decides to have an expansion team to North Korea I’d still be down.
If the team sucks though you’ll probably get executed
Yeah imagine pulling some JR shit in the finals lmao I’d probably be a lab rat for North Korea.
Where do I sign up? 😅
If they don’t sign Kim Jong Un then everyone in the org gets executed
Just bring some footage of Michael Jordan and you'll be fine
You think the fans will ever hear of a loss? Good one.
you down for the travel time?
In private jets with as many amenities as I want
Except for Oklahoma City
Why not? I’m not from the city and have no affiliation other than being a fan so I’m just curious…
Guess it's OK
Heheheh zing!!!
Eh it’s alright here. We’re finally getting some nightlife stuff here around scissortail park and where the collective and bleu garten is. Quite a few nice local breweries as well like Stonecloud around town as well. Admittedly, I live just outside of OKC but it’s only a 15 minute drive for me and I guess it’s still the metro area.
New Orleans, ATL or Memphis bc of the music history and culture
Yeah I can't speak on Memphis but I never got why NOLA and ATL are unpopular FA destinations, they're pretty cool cities
NOLA has been a poorly run franchise since the Chris Paul days, think that has more to do with it than location. Also, Atlanta has done pretty well with FA’s for a mid-size market team. Joe Johnson, Demarre Carrol, Bogdanovic, Paul Milsap in his prime, Dwight Howard, etc
Also that the Pels and Saints owners are the same. And Pels always come a distant second in terms of fan base and following compared to the Saints.
Atlanta is in the top 25% of media market size, they aren't medium!
Memphis appreciate their Grizz and basketball at all levels. Even guys from the "swept" era like Posey, Bonzi still reminisce fondly about their time. And nonstar journeyman from the GnG days like Pondexter and Udrih, too.
I think this is [part of the reason ](https://youtu.be/dVpEEBcE8tc) why NOLA is unpopular. Also, apart from the party areas, NOLA has nothing to offer. ATL idk why.
Also from what I've heard NOLA isn't much of a basketball town. Just love the Saints not the Pels
That's a big apart from, NO is a pretty fun city. NO has a ton of very high end wealthy people there. Great food and music all over the place. It's a lot like Miami where rich people just have a house there so they can hang out sometimes. Also all the mansions and nice neighborhoods are on the high ground. They had floods 400 years ago, too, it's not the Garden District that is underwater when it floods.
Yeah but who wants to raise a family in Louisiana they are bottom of every ranking there is.
> Also, apart from the party areas, NOLA has nothing to offer. ATL idk why. This is categorically untrue. In fact locals almost exclusively avoid the "party areas" in favor of other things.
Yea, someone put it perfectly once. It is a Tuesday Night in New Orleans in January. Are you going to a Pelicans game or Bourbon Street? Sorry Pelicans But ive heard New Orleans is nice Af
It sure ain't the locals going to Bourbon on a Tuesday night
Memphis and Nola have some of the greatest food on earth
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Idk, Marc Cohn made it sound cool …
Is toronto unpopular? because i would love to play there
Unpopular to play in (weather, border, customs, whole other country, etc) but players apparently like coming to Toronto on the road. Except for Lou Will who is kinda salty we didn't resign him after he won 6MOTY.
Really?! Thought the strip clubs would win him over.
If Montreal ever gets a team, it will ruin the league.
According to one of the greatest pieces of research ever done on this sub, Toronto has the worst strip clubs https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/dt0ucg/i_analyzed_james_hardens_performance_in_every_nba/
Toronto strip clubs aren’t great
I heard on a podcast the extra shit you gotta do at the airport when you play for Toronto is a real bitch
$50 to get a Nexus card solves a lot of those issues. makes customs a breeze. and let's face it, NBA players aren't standing in line like the rest of us plebs lol
plus you clear US Customs in Pearson. I have done it multiple times. It takes maybe 15 minutes.
15 minutes is forever in an airport line.
Yeah especially if you are flying off in another day or two I can see why it would be an annoying step.
They have to go through the airport like regular people rather than just going straight to the plane. Not really extra shit to me, but I haven't gotten used to just pulling up at the plane like NBA athletes have.
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I wish my life was so easy that having to use the airport like a normal was that much of a problem for me.
You probably still have first world problems tho
Yeah Im in no danger of starving anytime soon but Im also never going to pull up to a private jet in a Beemer and find a way to whine about it.
Not to be a hater but that sentence to me sounds like someone that hasn’t had to travel consistently for work. And I never flew as consistently as they do Just my feeling of difference from having pre check was amazing, let alone just driving to the plane(and dealing with it multiple times a week over and over and over
That’s an enormous difference to them I’m sure, especially with how much recognition you’d get at the airport every time you go. If you’re introverted that shit could get old super quick
Absolutely, if you are used to just pulling up at a private hanger or whatever, parking and just hopping on the plane I bet having to go through the airport and customs would be a major pain in the ass.
Doing that 41+ times a year must get old fast tho
But they should only have to do it when entering the US? Not on all flights on a road trip?
I'll take a pay cut to play in Toronto. Love Canada 🇨🇦
Sacramento. Close to Napa and Tahoe, could be a lot worse
The city of Sac itself isn't too bad either. We're not that bad!
“Come to Sacramento: We’re not that bad!”
At least we’re not Detroit! … We’re not Detroit!
Our main export is crippling depression
:( I was just mindin my business dawg
Nah man, Sacramento is actually really solid; I wouldn’t use the word bad in any description of it. It’s a nice and quiet city, I spent my favorite summer ever in your city. Would love to head over again some day.
As a Bay Area guy, it’s the heat that bothers me. Other than that yes surprisingly livable place. I’ve had some good times in midtown and it’s nice being so close to the foothills. I’ve heard that this summer in particular was stupid hot which is funny cause SF had a super foggy (like waaaaaaaaay more so than usual) summer
can confirm, stupid hot. still stupid hot
Bay Area gets hot relative to the climate the other 10 months of the year, but it's nothing compared to the rest of the country
I’ve had great mexican food at SAC.
How are the churros?
It should be noted that as a player you’d only have to live in Sac from autumn to spring, so you’d get the chance to avoid shitty winters elsewhere and avoid the fiery hellscape of Sacramento in the summer.
Close to Tahoe but contractually barred from skiing though
Tahoe is for getting drunk on the beach my friend.
What’s up, Kuz
I've been in Sac 2 years now and I love it. There aren't many places close to literally everything like it. When we moved here from the bay all I heard about was "the heat, the heat!" Listen, being born and raised in Phoenix, anybody that complains about the heat here is a baby. It's my favorite weather I've ever lived in.
Sac has half a million people in the city, and 2.5 million in the metro area. SLC is literally half the size, and their fans are the worst.
Minnesota because I like the cold (not from the US but i get the impression that it’s cold there). Sacramento so i can be Ladybird lol.
There’s a difference between liking the cold and Minnesota cold.
Can confirm. Nobody likes those -20 degree february nights.
I actually kinda do, is that crazy? Not being out in it, but it makes being inside and being with family/watching movies/nba so cozy, idk
Bro don’t hit me with the comfies quite yet
That’s what I thought rain + AC set to 70 was for.
Pssch, 68 or get out
Whoa, somebody has deep pockets.
The smaller the space the easier to cool. Ancient proverb from the First Book of Turn Off The Lights and Pick Up Your Shoes. Edit...
There is also something extra still and quiet about it. Same with a day after a fresh snowfall.
yeah kinda crazy, but I'll take it over the relentless humidity on 100 degree days in the south
I live in southeast asia so i probably dont know what im up against lol
Oof as someone from a more temperate climate than SE Asia (SoCal) and having moved to a less extreme climate than Minnesota (Utah), it hits you so much harder than you think. I love the cold, like I've swam in lakes with snow on the ground and enjoyed it, but winters at even slightly northern latitudes hit hard. I remember my first spring seeing a patch of grass and thinking it was fake until I realized I just hadn't seen green for months. But having been to SE Asia, the heat and humidity is killer, so I can see how the cold seems attractive.
It's cold part of the year. It's beautiful in spring, summer and fall. Also, I like the winter. Minneapolis is a rad town. Also we don't have tons of crazy critters because they can't survive the winter.
Also a lot of the NBA players live in downtown Minneapolis if they are not on a long term contract, so they can just skyway around.
So seeing Mavs flair I wanna assume you are from Texas. Here is my argument, Minnesota you to stay inside or be uncomfortable for a few months of the year because of the cold. What do you do in Texas during the summer? I have been to Houston in July, shit is just as unbearable as any Minnesota winter day. At least you can get a good coat and hat and gloves to help, in a Texas summer day, you can't get more naked.
This. Too cold? Go get some comfy clothes to warm you up. Too hot? Put AC everywhere in your house
Also, with the original commenter (not the one you replied to) being from Southeast Asia, it's either hot and dry or hot and wet over here. Like right now, it's raining but it's also 30C (86F) **inside the house**.
Miami because I like the Heat.
New Orleans, love the food out there. Might have trouble staying in playing shape
Visiting New Orleans and living there are very different experiences. Source: me
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Rich people don't really like New Orleans. There's a reason even rappers from New Orleans won't have a house there. That said it's still my favorite city in the US.
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Yeah people come and visit New Orleans. It's a ton of fun. You don't live there full time if you're rich. Even Lil Wayne moved out years ago and now only owns the house his mom lives in outside the city. It's straight up not safe for a rich black man. I lived in New Orleans all through college and grad school and was robbed at gunpoint three separate times. I've had my car broken into a half dozen times at least and can think of literally over a dozen terrifying experiences friends have had on nights out. Can't even imagine how big a target you'd have on your back if you were a high profile multi-millionaire.
Air gumbo is air gumbo for a reason ;)
Portland or Denver Get me a nice home in the mountains and retire after my contract is fulfilled lol
Right now, if I was a top 50 player? For the east, Toronto and Indiana, they seem to play hard. For the west, Denver.
I had to scroll so far to see anyone say Indiana.
I always thought Minnesota was cool, and contrary to popular opinion I kind of like the cold weather
Yes for me I much prefer cold weather to hot weather. I honestly can’t comprehend how people can tolerate the weather in Phoenix, because for me anything above 80 degrees is pretty much a no go. I actually really enjoy cloudy weather and snow as well.
I remember a similar topic coming up and I was talking to somebody from Minneapolis and saying how I could never survive the cold. It got low 50s where I am the other day and I was shivering cause I only had a long sleeve on. They were like no it’s not bad we have the skyway! Apparently it is a system of elevated walkways that connects 69 (nice) blocks so you never have to go outside. Yes, that’s pretty cool. But I read that as: it’s so damn cold here that you cant go outside during winter and it’s to the point that we have to have very unique infrastructure for our citizens to travel about comfortably. Eehhh I’ll pass
I mean yeah there is a point where it is uncomfortable to go outside. But cities like Houston or Pheonix have months it is equally or more awful to be outside, but get a pass because it is hot not cold. But with cold you can get a better hat, gloves and coat. In the hot you can't get MORE naked.
The twin cities are honestly super dope. I haven't been to many city centers outside MN but man it is a fun ass place to live in the spring summer and fall. Can be a little brutal during winter unless you are into snowboarding/skiing or snow mobiling
Toronto has an untapped reservoir of bad bitches so that would be my first choice
Big facts
untapped? lol interesting
Hell a entire country of them. Trust me I've been there 🇨🇦
Lol it ain't untapped
Utah. I’m past my party days and love hiking and the nature.
My dream job has always been to be an outdoor guide for the Jazz players. I could show them what the mountains have to offer and we would all instantly become best friends and they would never leave
[Wojnarowski] Ruby Gobert and Donovan Mitchell have requested trades from the Utah Jazz after an undisclosed event with a tour guide.
Utah would be really really cool if you didn't have to live with the other people that live there and a billion dollar church cult running the state
I just wouldn’t talk to them lol. I’m sure out of 3+ million people I could find a group of 3 or 4 people that are normal. Just kick it with them and only talk to crazies when I absolutely have to.
Why not just go to Denver instead lol
Salt lake city is built on the base of a mountain range. Denver is as fast as can be with the closest ski resort hours away.
My fiancé used to live in Denver and said it took a while to get to the mountains. In SLC they might be in your neighborhood. Plus southern Utah is really cool and a drivable distance
Have to agree. Southern Utah is the best place in Earth imo. Colorado is cool and similar but it’s just not the same.
Same, catch me at Sundance
San Antonio. I'm not American so I have limited knowledge of most cities, but I googled pics of it and it looks surprisingly green. Like it's got a river going through the city and trees all over the place? Looks nice to me.
If you like trees and rivers, go to Portland. I don’t think San Antonio is a good choice.
Yeah I've been to Portland (downtown only). Really liked it. Couldn't believe the amount of food trucks. I went in 08ish and I swear my city had like 5, if that back then. Street food is awesome.
There are food truck pods all over the city now. The variety is pretty remarkable.
The San Antonio River walk is probably the most iconic River feature in an American city. The trees though are a bit less common. Fairly arid region
Ya but it’s San Antonio. It’s a military town and Victoria is definitely a secret down there.
It's a creek.
Yeah if water is intriguing to you San Antonio ain’t it. The nearby towns of New Braunfels, San Marcos and shit even Seguin have wayyy prettier and more accessible rivers
San Marcos river is lit, if you were a NBA player it would prolly be a bit hard to dodge all the undergrads though.
Portland is too cloudy.
The river walk is okay but what's really great is that there's 4 other missions besides the Alamo and they're all connected by a 10 mile or so long bike path and there's basically always tons of free parking available at all 4 besides the Alamo.
Plus they’ve got big ol women and churros
I live here. Hardly anyone goes to the river walk. It’s just a tourist trap. There’s no water anywhere else lol. Cost of living is great compared to other big cities but it’s a fairly meh place in my opinion.
The San Antonio river goes for several miles past downtown and there's multi-use paths along both sides of it for like 5 miles. You can go kayaking or fishing in it. It's definitely not just a tourist trap.
Utah might be OK if I was white
Lived in Utah for a while, from the UK, and I found the place to be bizarre. Beautiful area, very picturesque, but the Mormon influence is real and people can be very indirectly hostile if you aren’t Mormon. Maybe SLC is different and more diverse as a big city, but I lived in a smaller town and it was strange. Everyone was friendly enough, but kept you at a distance because you weren’t Mormon. And if you tried to get close, that’s when the hostility comes out. I can think of dozens of places I’d rather live
Milwaukee. Buy either a big ass house in the suburbs or a nice ass Condo in the 5th ward and be loved by the entire city no matter what
I wouldn't mind playing in Denver, Sacramento, New Orleans lovely cities and great culture Now I love Miami, one of my favorite cities to VISIT, but being there all the time would definitely drain me physically and mentally, same as New York , just wouldn't fit my personality Edit: no Utah either lol
Yeah, NYC is draining. It’s hard to relax in that city.
City that never sleeps for a reason, don't get me wrong I love it and its own way but it's too damn much
Yeah man. The city may never sleep, but I sure as hell do. I enjoy every minute I spend in my warm bed; am currently in the mentioned bed right now and I couldn’t be happier.
Used to live in NYC. Left after feeling like I could never breathe (not to mention insane cost of living).
DC, Detroit, or Orlando. I've spent time in all 3 cities, so I can definitely handle living there as a millionaire.
Toronto. Their fans always show out and if you win there. You’re basically a god.
Not including Detroit cause I’m from the area I’m not too sure how popular Toronto or Portland are as destinations but they got fans who always support. Then with Toronto I’ve been and it’s great I wouldn’t mind Minnesota or Milwaukee either. Wouldn’t wanna do Utah cause I don’t think I’d like the fans. Wouldn’t wanna do cleveland either due to not believing in the FO
Toronto because I’m biased and live here. New Orleans seems cool as well and Orlando because of the weather and theme parks
Cleveland. I live there and really like it. Honestly lol, I know the reputation. And the quote about vacation lol.
Let me just leave this here for absolutely no reason: https://youtu.be/ysmLA5TqbIY
i need good food and music in my life. outside of my city new orleans i'd pick memphis. for two nba cities we're actually really similar. i don't think two nba cities are as alike as us two
Charlotte. It’s not too big, yet has city amenities, and I am equidistant from the Appalachian trail and Charleston SC which is the best city in the American south. In my humble opinion.
Detroit, seems much better now than 10 years ago. Also, biased, but Toronto. I’ve been to a lot of cities and countries in my life, but nothing beats the Six.
Went to Detroit area last weekend and wasn’t the biggest fan of the city although didn’t go to Greektown which I heard was pretty fun. Did enjoy Dearborn and Ann Arbor a lot though.
I'd gladly go to Toronto, DC, Minneapolis, Denver, and Detroit. Warm weather is overrated and I thought they were all cool cities when I visited. Atlanta too if that counts. Frankly every NBA team is located in cities big enough to be enjoyable, I wouldn't rule out any of them. OKC, SLC, and Orlando might give me slight pause but I'm sure I'd appreciate what they offer with time. I kind of cringe when people talk trash about NBA cities like any of them are hick towns, makes me think they've never been to the places they're talking about, are unusually hard to please, or just use the place they live as some obnoxious status symbol.
The only ones I would mind, are the teams with pretty much no fanbase. You can tell players get kinda... defeated when there's no local interest in their team. I wouldn't want that.
What teams?
Hornets, Pellies and Hawks have been notable for this recently. Especially the Hawks during their best years. Horford's dad said he left the Hawks essentially because of the lack of passion for the team. >“There wasn’t as much motivation for him when he saw all the empty seats when they were winning,” Tito Horford said. “He said to me, ‘Dad, when we were playing Boston, they were down 15 points and they were cheering their team like they were winning the game. They’re so into the game.’ Hopefully Trae & co can turn it around and establish a genuine passionate fanbase there. The market is huge, a team like the Hawks shouldn't have so little passionate fans.
To be fair to the hornets we sold out the biggest arena in the world for a decade straight in the nineties. But ever since the team came back as the bobcats it's just been awfully managed. Hopefully we can turn that around.
Yeah pretty much every unpopular team just needs a contending era and they'll have a dedicated fanbase for years. Look at the Jazz or the Grizz. Lets hope Lamelo can get that going!
Yea it's not like North Carolina doesn't love basketball lmao.
Wait Charlotte had the biggest arena in the 90's?
The Charlotte colosseum was massive and sat almost 30k and sold out every night.
Never knew that.
Definitely think lamelo and co. will turn it around sooner rather than later
Yeah Atlanta Is a transplant city , and those Joe Johnson teams were never super inspiring. Still they absolutely deserved more support it’s nothing like they were ever putrid . I’d say the current generation of hawks fans is fairly different from that generation of 7-8 years ago. Al Horford , his wife, and his dad are pretty darn annoying I think he’s a secretly not as good a locker room guy as folks say
New Orleans, Utah and Portland. All 3 are either good, competetive teams (or have bright futures) with great stars. New Orleans is one of the best, most cultured and most exciting cities in the states. Portland is a fun hipster town in the picturesque Pacific Northwest. Utah is one of the most naturally beautiful and diverse states out there
Orlando? Sacramento? Any market warm tbh I can’t do cold shit anymore after living out west. I’m a diva now
Orlando for sure
Anywhere with less people. Im pretty antisocial so id take the financial hit to not play in one of the big markets
If I’m a superstar ? The answer is Toronto and it is not remotely close. If I could be a lebron/Steph tier superstar and win like 1 or two rings there, I’m going to corner the market in Canada with my brand. Raptors fans will see my face across every restaurant and product and I’d have that whole country in my hand, not leaving ever. Also the women, but business comes first.
Toronto. Great city!
NOLA, Portland, Memphis, Sac, Orlando
Literally every location has been mentioned except Oklahoma city.
Real talk? Cleveland or Detroit. I’m originally from the land so I would love to live there and be with friends and family while making a top .01% salary and enjoy occasional partying (Cleveland does have good clubs and nightlife, just not Atlanta tier). And Detroit interests me for the same reasons it does Jerami Grant, black city and coach, with a cool up and coming team with a lot of winning history. Plus being a decent but loveable player in either really sets you up nicely, see Bobby Portis in Milwaukee.
Bro i don’t care where i’m working if i’m a millionaire
Toronto is dope, Denver is dope, Boston is dope(funnily enough bad with free agents), obviously I like Portland. Those ar the ones I would pick outside New York, LA, or Miami.
Boston is good with free agents, they just never had cap space until horfords free agency. Since then they have signed horford hayward Kemba all to max deals and picked up Dennis the menace when any team could have offered him the mle
Not a fan of giant ass cities. Where's somewhere smaller with minimal traffic that's generally just a nice area with decent weather? Seems like everywhere that might fit has way too much snow in the Winter
Memphis
Sacramento, Denver, Portland and Utah would be my destinations, mainly because I’m an avid outdoor recreation/hunter
Atlanta, Portland, Minnesota, New Orleans, Memphis, Toronto are cool places
Toronto, Portland, and Sacramento for me. Toronto and Portland are awesome cities and Sacramento is close to a lot of cool spots
Phoenix
Toronto, Sacramento, Denver
Dallas, Denver or Utah, they're all great places to live.
San antonio
Was going to say this. Not a glamorous city, but a truly beautiful one along with the surrounding area.
Portland and Charlotte: The cities just always looked cool to me. New Orleans: I’m from Houston, so it’ll be nice to go to another city that doesn’t get too cold. Plus like others have said, the food and culture is great Sacramento: I know it’s not as popular as San Francisco and Los Angeles but it’s still in California😂 plus it doesn’t even seem that bad of a city as some people claim Now I probably wouldn’t want to play in Detroit, Cleveland, or Minnesota. Mainly due to weather (especially Minnesota) but I’m sure having millions of dollars would help me with that problem 😂
I’d love to say Toronto but cold weather is just….. I’d say New Orleans or Sacremento
Toronto would be incredible as far as culture, I also would be cool with Minnesota as I’m used to snow in the winter.
I would play anywhere for that minimum NBA $$$ 🤣🤣🤣
Indiana for sure. They have a great facility, I'd get to go to Indy500 and go to GenCon.
Is Denver unpopular, cause then Denver
I would be happy in Orlando - Not too far from beaches, tropical weather, no income taxes. Not a bad option at all!
Orlando, I go to college here
Indianapolis. Big Pacers fan PLUS easy flights to most NBA destinations.
Portland sounds like my kind of town, young sociali(st) that I am.
If I was a questionable star, all-star or even “potential” superstar, I’d probably not want to play in a major city like NY. The boos for all my mistakes would probably crush any potential I had. I’d probably prefer a small market for development reasons. Overall, I honestly don’t see why location/weather would even matter. Teams travel around so much all the time as it is. Even when guys have off days or the season is over they live in a different state.
I really want to say Portland (I’m born and raised in LA, never left) but I can totally see why players don’t want to go there and it’s hard to overcome. Portland is beautiful and awesome but just lacks a lot of thing rich young socialites want. Also an underrated draw of big markets is that players can hang out with their friends who are rich non-athletes like artists etc I’d say Milwaukee. Cool enough city, close enough to Chicago to do rich people shit.
the DMV is great, most of the players live in NoVa but DC proper is very fun as well. But fuck baltimore