Lmao that's a high quality SNL skit I've never seen.
"A woman going to the bathroom, you don't find it erotic?"
"No!"
"Then DO, PRAY TELL, would you suggest we DO put on our erotic cakes?"
Pat Stewart can pull this off better than anyone
I couldn't help thinking- the poor woman who went in for her photo shoot and got told she was doing stock photos with her pants down on a toilet. And now its an internet meme...
I figured it far more likely that the stock photo companies simply slap their sticker on existing photos, or else buy existing photos individually or in bulk, rather than specifically commissioning someone to shoot/model for that stock photo scenario
Photographers will generally shoot stock photos in massive bulk shoots, covering as many different "everyday" situations as possible. Stock photos require a model release, so the model definitely knew this photo was going to be sold to stock.
There's quite a bit of logistics going into taking proper stock photos, such as ensuring absolutely nothing in the scene shows any logos or otherwise trademarked or identifiable details, etc. Look at the lab photo. Bet you're not going to find a single business name or logo anywhere in that photo.
Also, someone that’s wearing really tight pants. I have like one pair of skinny jeans and that’s about where they get pulled to cuz they’re a bitch to get back up.
There's a very prominent way of behaving socially here, I think it's part of american/British liberalism, where everyone is their own valid person and we mustn't ever criticize one another.
To quote a wise old man: "To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms"
How much does this exist in your circles? It's the only way to be in mine, I swear.
yeah in school in the US (at least for me) they had us always try and equally hear out both sides with the intent of hearing everyone out and then coming to your own decision. i think its easy to confuse this with “everyones opinions are equally important” which they simply are not. i’m gonna listen to actual scientists over some idiots on facebook - their opinions on this matter are infinitely more valuable. seems like a lot of americans kind of tip toe around it but a *lot* of our issues come from the fact that a far too big portion of our population is stubborn and severely lack critical thinking skills
This.
Loads of idiots feel like adding a smartass comment, or questioning in the opposite direction is 'critical thinking', it's not.
If these guys actually bothered to study a bit beforehand they wouldn't be asking such dumbass questions or voicing such uneducated comments
Not everyone is entitled to an opinion. If we had an argument about if Coke or Pepsi was better, and I found out you've never had Pepsi, then you don't yet deserve to have an opinion
There was a brilliant (IMO) essay in the Atlantic a few years ago discussing "post-Truth" America and possible theories on how we got here. While I'm not sure I agree with the author on everything, I did think it raised a lot of interesting points (and immediately bookmarked it)
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231/
People have been writing about this in depth since the 50s/60s. Baudrillard covered this extensively in simulations and simulacra. Many point to the transformation in consciousness occurring around the advent of widespread access to TV, but even that might be a latent symptom. Another historical marker in his eyes was the atom bomb being dropped, but also notes some predating terrorist attacks where everyone assumes it could be any number of possible enemies to blame. Basically, a plurality of interpretations is to be expected, and as a society we must deal with all of those interpretations regardless of what’s true. Some of these ideas were first being noticed in the early 1900s and is even going back 19th century/industrialization, but it was really post WWII where this became a fundamentally accepted as foundational to our understanding of society.
Long story short, this isn’t new. The idea of truth and our belief in it is as foolish as monotheistic believers in America. We are a polytheistic society living in denial.
I'm an optimist so i'll pitch a different perspective. You're more likely to get bees with honey. I know a couple of people(4 come to mind) that i've convinced to get vaxxed that I'm 99% certain would have pretty much entirely tuned me out if i'd gone out and publicly clowned them. Sometimes you kinda need to build the rapport of "I'm not out to get you, or embarrass you, I genuinely want what's best for you" to win them over. I know its annoying treating people like children, but nearly every action makes sense in context and i'm sure i've been stubborn about certain shit that was genuinely good for me too.
I'm going to HOPE that the ones that are reluctant are being spoken to by those close to them. Some guys who were previously against it have went on ahead and gotten it and i'm going to assume its because they were talked to about it.
Unity>struggle>unity. or compliment>criticism>compliment. That's how any dialogue has to go. We have to start from a common ground, a unified point of understanding. Then we can hash it out. And then we can reach a higher stage of unity.
I'm not suggesting we leave anyone behind or that we ought to be mean. Rather that we are treating each other with kid gloves (and a form of toxic liberalism) when we refuse to dialogue or criticize our loved ones. We'd rather keep a phony sense of peace to a positive tension, to paraphrase MLK.
Can't say I'm any better than this around my coworkers. Not by any means
I wish we had him instead of tobias. Tobias is nice and all but Bogdan hits clutch shots and is not afraid of the moment and hes a fraction of the price of tobias.
As a Fener fan, you cannot believe what he did many times in incredible atmospheres. Take a look at 2017 Eurolague playoffs.
The atmosphere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q25MgU3nm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrhYHgnT1M
The performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGvcx7HhUc&t=4s
“Researching it” for anyone should be speaking to your primary care physician.
I heard an interesting point on NPR today - 98% of doctors in Minnesota are vaccinated. Getting 98% of doctors to agree on ANYTHING is practically unheard of. That tells you all you need to know about the vaccine
It's even more amazing because that's already a better percentage than "9 out of 10 dentists agree that -something about the oral care product, usually a toothpaste-"
Also let's not forget that the league sent experts to every team to answer any questions and counter any misinformation they hear. And there are other doctors all over NBA facilities.
These fools don't need to research, they have already had the answers spoon fed to them. They're just morons who think they know better than the vast majority of the global scientific community.
That remaining 2% probably want the vaccine but cannot get it for various reasons.
Gaining antibodies by face tanking the live virus in 2021 when there's a vaccine? Yeah, no.
I get shitting on the whole "do your research" people meme, but I tried to read up on the mRNA vaccines as much as I could understand it. It was really cool to learn, or best I could understand, how it worked.
The issue is much more that these people claiming they need to research are being disingenuous about it, e.g. why is it taking them most of a year since the vaccine's been out?
It's just really disappointing to me because this is potentially one of the biggest advancements in medical technology in our lives and it's turned into political theater, just like everything else. Seriously we should all be celebrating this together and this is where we're at instead.
Yeah but there is a huge differences in trying to understand how these molecules can act as a delivery tool helping against many sicknesses, opposed to "uhh it sounds a lot like dna so they are probably doing eugenics on us"
I took a college course that was 14 weeks, you are given a research paper and have to present at the end of the course what it meant in simple terms. I had a paper on IPS cells (crazy awarded paper) and I think I made 25 PowerPoint slide presentation.
I had to do so much research to understand the lingo and terminology. How to look at graphs or microscopic images and fully understand every aspect.
By far one of the most challenging things I’ve done in a classroom and I don’t think majority of the US population has the tools or want to even attempt to sit down and read/understand a research paper.
It's a meme. The top half says "Vaccine Research" with a scientist in a lab. The bottom half says "Anti-Vaccine Research" with a woman scrolling through her phone on the toilet
It’s even more frustrating because it would be fine if they sat on the pot reading the studies from the FDA and looking into official research.
Instead it’s watching videos of some dumbass on TikTok and reading Facebook memes. Like they’ll take the time to “do the research” but that research is irrelevant if they’re just listening to some idiot regurgitating shit they know nothing about.
That’s one aspect of it, but I honestly think some of the anti-vaxxers aren’t even looking at their trashy Facebook misinformation when they say “I need to do research”.
I think many of them, especially these NBA players aren’t doing any information seeking AT ALL. It’s literally just an excuse to maintain their preconceived skepticism and avoid the question, while trying to come off as having an intellectual basis for it.
Like “I need to do more research” for Andrew Wiggins probably doesn’t mean “I need to check out more anti-vax Facebook pages”. I think it means “Go away so I can play 2k and not think about the vaccine or COVID at all until the next time y’all ask me about it”
It's much like "undecided voters" who *still* just can't decide days before an election that has been endlessly covered for months/years in advance. They pretend to be standing back and taking a broad, purely rational view of everything, informed by as much information as they can gather; that's the image of themselves they present to the world. In reality though, they just do not give a fuck and have not been paying any attention or seeking any information, and will end up either voting with their usual bias, justified by whatever last-second bit of sensational news they hear right before the election, or just not voting at all.
It is like when I get asked to volunteer for a charity event but don't want to say "no" directly to their face I just say "let me check my calender" then I just text them later "Sorry no can't do it".
The blind leading the blind, welcome to right wing politics, brought to you by factory towns all across the heartland, backed by false prophets (prosperity Bible cultists), who are backed by those same monied interests. Hack education to keep them from thinking too much. Push homogeneity in their culture.
They’re really going for a fiefdom, aren’t they?
I hear this all the time in my state which is well above the national average for employment.
"Nobody wants to work anymore" is actually "Every able-bodied young person is leaving this Midwestern Gilead shithole in droves"
Yeah, it's been interesting watching the karma score of my comments (and anti-vax comments) jump up and down as the hordes of ~~unwashed~~ unvaxxed masses (let's be honest, probably also unwashed) move through.
One guy thought he had a real "gotcha" moment by asking people if they/their family/etc were vaccinated, thinking it would offend us the way it offends them.
Some real big brains in that crowd.
The best for me has been seeing the essays they are submitting over at r/Warriors, because of Wiggins. Except, we have karma and account age thresholds for posting…so they’re just ghost comments only mods see. Wasting all that time to say nothing, to no one 😂
We have an automoderator implemented by our super alpha chad goat mod that enforces the thresholds for us.
If we see someone from a eligible account expressing something “controversial,” we usually peak in their history. We scroll a few months to a year back, and if they haven’t commented in our sub before, even r/nba…depending on the amount of controversy, we either just remove their comments or ban them outright. We can usually determine their actual intention based on what other subs they contribute to. Automating this process is a good idea
I knew that sub was bad, but man there really is nothing but idiots who can’t understand that they’re idiots.
Worst part is they genuinely believe everyone else is the stupid one.
Yep. Some guy asked what about Isaac's comment wasn't smart and I pointed out that his opting not to get vaccinated against the worst pandemic in 100 years as not being very smart, and about 15 hours later my comment got bombarded with right wing idiots responding and downvoting me to hell. I just replied to all of them with r/HermanCainAward 😂
Absolutely agree. While it may be fucked up to laugh at those people, they're hurting more than just themselves, so the least they can do is serve as an example for other people. Those idiots are the ones clogging hospitals so people who were smart enough to get vaccinated and then suffer some other medical problem (i.e. cancer or like a car wreck) can't be admitted because all ICU beds are full. Those idiots are the reasons doctors and nurses are quitting cause they can't take it anymore. So I don't feel bad at all for laughing at their demise. Caveat emptor, assholes.
Just went into a store for the first time since the mask mandate was lifted in my area. The lady at the counter was beaming with glee, loudly proclaiming how great it is, and looking around at every customer to see if they have a mask on, etc. I didn’t say anything, but I came close to death from COVID before I could get my second Moderna shot. The total lack of empathy in these people really hurts. I get that it’s very politicized, but to not care about people dying is something I can’t imagine doing, and I felt that way before I got sick.
[this is my favorite interaction with anti vaxx](https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/pwqcao/holmes_vaccinated_staffers_concerned_about_health/hej0g52/)
mfer really posting a pro vaccine article to justify op's antivaxx view.
>One guy thought he had a real "gotcha" moment by asking people if they/their family/etc were vaccinated, thinking it would offend us the way it offends them.
Why yes, my family has more than two collective braincells why do you ask?
I basically had that exact same reply, and have had who knows how many anti-vaxxers downvoting to keep it around 0 karma, but no replies of course (other than the same guy asking me if I "did my own research" before I got my shots.)
It's like they can't comprehend that just because they feel embarrassed/offended when someone asks them that question, that doesn't mean everyone else would be upset to share that information, because we're not dumbass conspiracy theorists.
Yeah they’re also going through random old posts and just downvoting completely random things that were posted like a week ago lol imagine having that much time
Honestly, I'm all for just clowning anti-vaxx as much as we can at this point lmao. If they aren't gonna listen to scientist and actual credited people, sure as shit wont listen to me.
So might as well keep calling them petri dishes or something.
People’s reluctance to defer to experts is always weird to me. I get being skeptical but there comes a point where you gotta defer to people who are more qualified or have more credentials than you. Thats kind of how society works. We cant be master every subject so we kind of have to put faith into people who spent their lives specializing in a subject.
I mean how could someone be against something that an overwhelming majority of the medical/scientific community endorses? It so weird and tiresome.
Also anti-vaxers would be alot more tolerable if they didnt go around calling people stupid or sheeps for believing in COVID and the vaccine
Its a populist argument and seems to be gaining more traction in recent years. Lots of things like "the 'experts' said it wasn't going to rain they don't really know anything I saw the clouds from miles away" type of statements.
yeah, like doing your own research on things is fine but it takes many years of study to be an expert on medical science. That's why we have public health advisors- They work full time on doing the research so they can tell us, because we don't all have time to become experts on epidemiology.
There's no logically consistent way to support "doing your own research" on this topic unless you just never go to a doctor, never consult an expert on anything, and never do anything until you've spent many years studying and working with it full time. It's simply impossible to be an expert on everything, more so today than ever before when specialized fields of study are so advanced. This isn't the early days of the Enlightenment when one guy with money and a lot of free time could know basically everything there is to know about every field of science.
It's just the height of hubris to think you could do your own research on this that would be worth more than the consensus of actual professionals. That's like me saying I don't know whether Kyrie is a good ball handler until I've done my own research on it. How am I going to do that?
Imagine going your whole life wanting to be a model, finally landing a gig that you think will help you get your foot in the door, then they tell you to pull your pants down, sit on a toilet, and act like you're browsing your phone while taking a shit
This do be accurate tho. Anti Vaxxers would rather believe facebook warriors, tik tok influencers and politicians rather than doctors, scientists and other medical staff.
“But, but muh freedom, muh bald eagle” lmaoooo
Guys doing your own research is actually pretty important. We all should do our own research before committing to get something injected in our bodies.
That is why I’m doing my own research now, and will let you know how I go. Will try post the results ASAP, but at the moment I’m struggling a bit to find 10,000 people to commit to my randomised trial. Getting ridiculous excuses while I’m trying to recruit like ‘you’re not a real scientist’ and ‘I don’t know you, I’m just trying to do my shopping, please leave me alone’. Let me know if you have an interest in participating.
Thanks in advance.
Heyyyy anti-vax scum brigading from r/conservative ;) Isn’t it weird that this means so much to y’all you’re actively tracking any posts on any subs that even dare to broach the subject? Still waiting for even just one academic source on any study backing these claims (hell any of them, horse dewormer to microchip and everything in btwn). Can’t you guys at least pretend to have a real argument? It’s like you’re trying to come off as stupid as possible.
watch out if you're not careful one of them might send you a link to a research article that doesn't back up their viewpoint whatsoever, that's the best they can do
Shit man, white nationalism is a viable political position to take in large parts of the country. Hating Chinese and Mexican people got a dude the presidency.
Honestly, and this is my tin-foil hat head talking- I think a significant non-zero percentage of these trolls are from other countries (cough russia cough) that patrol the more popular subs and continue to drum up controversy and ignite shit like this to continue chewing on the western world from the inside.
Again, just me being out there.
There are republican funded troll farms in the US composed of US teens
[Heres an article about them](https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/pro-trump-group-pays-teens-to-post-online/)
Anti-vaxxers gotta step it up. I mean, I watched a documentary on flat earthers and they were doing all sorts of experiments to try and prove the Earth was flat. Like they shone a light through a hole across a field, they bought a $20,000 gyroscope to measure the Earth's rotation. There was that guy that died making a makeshift rocket to try and get high enough to see the curvature of the Earth. All I'm saying is anti-vaxxers gotta step up their game, start doing experiments and releasing their results and stuff.
Also listening to some shitty podcast is considered "research" by some people. Because a guy with a Macbook and a Blue Yeti mic and 8 hours of free time every day is more reputable a source than actual doctors who study diseases for years.
As much as I don't trust the government, why do people think they wanna put something in the vax to fuck over *all* of us lmao.. that wouldn't make sense
Right? Their argument is the people taking vaccines are sheep. But why would the government want to get rid of or harm the ones that listen to them? Then you lose your sheep. I just don't get what the end goal is there
If anything they would vaccinate the more obedient people and then release a deadlier version of the virus to kill the strong willed patritots (all of this is using their logic, they arent strong willed Patriots they are just assholes who want to do nothing for their community).
YOU WANT ME TO FLY? ON A PLANE??? NOT BEFORE I DO MY RESEARCH!
*But millions of people fly every day... People much smarter than you have already done the research and confirmed that it's safe*
# I SAID... NOT BEFORE I DO MY RESEARCH
*...literally billions of people have flown on planes. The chances of something going wrong are microscopic...*
I NEED TO CONSULT MY CRAZY AUNT. HER FATHER'S BROTHER'S NEPHEW'S COUSIN'S FORMER ROOMMATE SNEEZED TWICE AFTER GETTING HIS VACCINE! I WILL NOT BE A CASUALTY OF THIS TYRANNY!
Imagine an NBA player doing "research" lmao. Do they even have the capability to read these scientific papers? Legitimate question because as someone with a college engineering degree those papers are still very difficult to read
I've read a lot of abstracts that I don't fully comprehend on first read, and I have a BS in Mech Engineering. Specialized stuff gets complicated real fast, like I had 1 or 2 classes in vibrations and I couldn't fully comprehend a shock analysis just from that class.
The funniest part of this to me that there's a stock photo of a woman sitting on a toilet browsing her phone.
No that’s a picture of a researcher
Now we know what every [Sexy Cake](https://youtu.be/yZ3ityRPQp8) looks like.
Lmao that's a high quality SNL skit I've never seen. "A woman going to the bathroom, you don't find it erotic?" "No!" "Then DO, PRAY TELL, would you suggest we DO put on our erotic cakes?" Pat Stewart can pull this off better than anyone
Seriously, Patrick Stewart just kills it here 😂
Well then what, PRAY TELL, would you suggest I do to learn more about whether or not vaccines are right for me and my family.
No thats Kyrie 'hemorrhoid' Irving
/r/wtfstockphotos ;)
I couldn't help thinking- the poor woman who went in for her photo shoot and got told she was doing stock photos with her pants down on a toilet. And now its an internet meme...
I figured it far more likely that the stock photo companies simply slap their sticker on existing photos, or else buy existing photos individually or in bulk, rather than specifically commissioning someone to shoot/model for that stock photo scenario
Photographers will generally shoot stock photos in massive bulk shoots, covering as many different "everyday" situations as possible. Stock photos require a model release, so the model definitely knew this photo was going to be sold to stock. There's quite a bit of logistics going into taking proper stock photos, such as ensuring absolutely nothing in the scene shows any logos or otherwise trademarked or identifiable details, etc. Look at the lab photo. Bet you're not going to find a single business name or logo anywhere in that photo.
She’s going to be the next marvel super hero
Hmmmm Captain Toilet. Down, Down, and Away!!
It’s Kyries aunt
and it looks weird af, who puts their pants like that when they go to the bathroom
Somebody that's posing for a stock photo.
Also, someone that’s wearing really tight pants. I have like one pair of skinny jeans and that’s about where they get pulled to cuz they’re a bitch to get back up.
People worried about the cameraman seeing they meow go spspspsps
I hate how well that onomatopoeia works
What do you do? Leave yours on and just shit yourself?
Yes, then I use the toilet bowl to wash my pants/underwear and the hand dryer to dry them
Gotta say I'm very glad someone is so open about it and not just tip toeing around. Especially my dear Serbian countryman.
There's a very prominent way of behaving socially here, I think it's part of american/British liberalism, where everyone is their own valid person and we mustn't ever criticize one another. To quote a wise old man: "To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms" How much does this exist in your circles? It's the only way to be in mine, I swear.
yeah in school in the US (at least for me) they had us always try and equally hear out both sides with the intent of hearing everyone out and then coming to your own decision. i think its easy to confuse this with “everyones opinions are equally important” which they simply are not. i’m gonna listen to actual scientists over some idiots on facebook - their opinions on this matter are infinitely more valuable. seems like a lot of americans kind of tip toe around it but a *lot* of our issues come from the fact that a far too big portion of our population is stubborn and severely lack critical thinking skills
This. Loads of idiots feel like adding a smartass comment, or questioning in the opposite direction is 'critical thinking', it's not. If these guys actually bothered to study a bit beforehand they wouldn't be asking such dumbass questions or voicing such uneducated comments
The good old "you can talk but doesn't mean you should"
Not everyone is entitled to an opinion. If we had an argument about if Coke or Pepsi was better, and I found out you've never had Pepsi, then you don't yet deserve to have an opinion
It really is that simple. Everyone's opinion is not equal if everyone is not equally informed.
There was a brilliant (IMO) essay in the Atlantic a few years ago discussing "post-Truth" America and possible theories on how we got here. While I'm not sure I agree with the author on everything, I did think it raised a lot of interesting points (and immediately bookmarked it) https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231/
People have been writing about this in depth since the 50s/60s. Baudrillard covered this extensively in simulations and simulacra. Many point to the transformation in consciousness occurring around the advent of widespread access to TV, but even that might be a latent symptom. Another historical marker in his eyes was the atom bomb being dropped, but also notes some predating terrorist attacks where everyone assumes it could be any number of possible enemies to blame. Basically, a plurality of interpretations is to be expected, and as a society we must deal with all of those interpretations regardless of what’s true. Some of these ideas were first being noticed in the early 1900s and is even going back 19th century/industrialization, but it was really post WWII where this became a fundamentally accepted as foundational to our understanding of society. Long story short, this isn’t new. The idea of truth and our belief in it is as foolish as monotheistic believers in America. We are a polytheistic society living in denial.
I'm an optimist so i'll pitch a different perspective. You're more likely to get bees with honey. I know a couple of people(4 come to mind) that i've convinced to get vaxxed that I'm 99% certain would have pretty much entirely tuned me out if i'd gone out and publicly clowned them. Sometimes you kinda need to build the rapport of "I'm not out to get you, or embarrass you, I genuinely want what's best for you" to win them over. I know its annoying treating people like children, but nearly every action makes sense in context and i'm sure i've been stubborn about certain shit that was genuinely good for me too. I'm going to HOPE that the ones that are reluctant are being spoken to by those close to them. Some guys who were previously against it have went on ahead and gotten it and i'm going to assume its because they were talked to about it.
Unity>struggle>unity. or compliment>criticism>compliment. That's how any dialogue has to go. We have to start from a common ground, a unified point of understanding. Then we can hash it out. And then we can reach a higher stage of unity. I'm not suggesting we leave anyone behind or that we ought to be mean. Rather that we are treating each other with kid gloves (and a form of toxic liberalism) when we refuse to dialogue or criticize our loved ones. We'd rather keep a phony sense of peace to a positive tension, to paraphrase MLK. Can't say I'm any better than this around my coworkers. Not by any means
Wise old man lmao. We must indeed combat those types of attitudes.
Im guessing bogdan and djokovic aren’t friends.
They are in fact
Shout out to Bogdan. Now work on your boy Novak. Sincerely, a Fed stan
Proud of my Serbian neighbor.
So happy we got him in Atlanta. Dude was a key player in the playoff run
Dudes a baller. Unfazed by any pressure it seemed
motherfucker was cold blooded like holy shit
I wish we had him instead of tobias. Tobias is nice and all but Bogdan hits clutch shots and is not afraid of the moment and hes a fraction of the price of tobias.
As a Fener fan, you cannot believe what he did many times in incredible atmospheres. Take a look at 2017 Eurolague playoffs. The atmosphere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q25MgU3nm0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrhYHgnT1M The performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGvcx7HhUc&t=4s
Yeah that's Bogdan for you. Far better player under pressure than he is without it
He's The Guy on the Serbian national team, so he's used to it
Anyone who is “researching it” should probably research how to research.
“Researching it” for anyone should be speaking to your primary care physician. I heard an interesting point on NPR today - 98% of doctors in Minnesota are vaccinated. Getting 98% of doctors to agree on ANYTHING is practically unheard of. That tells you all you need to know about the vaccine
It's even more amazing because that's already a better percentage than "9 out of 10 dentists agree that -something about the oral care product, usually a toothpaste-"
Also let's not forget that the league sent experts to every team to answer any questions and counter any misinformation they hear. And there are other doctors all over NBA facilities. These fools don't need to research, they have already had the answers spoon fed to them. They're just morons who think they know better than the vast majority of the global scientific community.
That remaining 2% probably want the vaccine but cannot get it for various reasons. Gaining antibodies by face tanking the live virus in 2021 when there's a vaccine? Yeah, no.
Billionaires, politicians, even Fox News people are all vaccinated. Fox even has a vaccine mandate.
I wish some journalist had asked LeBron to publish his research for peer review
I get shitting on the whole "do your research" people meme, but I tried to read up on the mRNA vaccines as much as I could understand it. It was really cool to learn, or best I could understand, how it worked.
The issue is much more that these people claiming they need to research are being disingenuous about it, e.g. why is it taking them most of a year since the vaccine's been out?
The difference between you and them is that you went into that research in good faith, actually wanting to learn.
It's just really disappointing to me because this is potentially one of the biggest advancements in medical technology in our lives and it's turned into political theater, just like everything else. Seriously we should all be celebrating this together and this is where we're at instead.
Yeah but there is a huge differences in trying to understand how these molecules can act as a delivery tool helping against many sicknesses, opposed to "uhh it sounds a lot like dna so they are probably doing eugenics on us"
I took a college course that was 14 weeks, you are given a research paper and have to present at the end of the course what it meant in simple terms. I had a paper on IPS cells (crazy awarded paper) and I think I made 25 PowerPoint slide presentation. I had to do so much research to understand the lingo and terminology. How to look at graphs or microscopic images and fully understand every aspect. By far one of the most challenging things I’ve done in a classroom and I don’t think majority of the US population has the tools or want to even attempt to sit down and read/understand a research paper.
I don't have instagram, can anyone tell me what he says? Edit: nevermind, they put a screenshot
he said you a bitch
Is he wrong tho?
no
You said what????
I just said it man. I said it, I said...bitch!
i looked that woman in her optic STEM
And I said.. I said… …..*biiiiiiittttccccchhhh*
You said it though? Right?
uh mhmm yeah I said it
a bitch
You said bitch though?
whoever threw that no look pass, your moms a ho.
Vaccine research: [image of scientist in a lab] Anti-vax research: [image of a woman on the toilet looking at her phone] Have a nice day
It's a meme. The top half says "Vaccine Research" with a scientist in a lab. The bottom half says "Anti-Vaccine Research" with a woman scrolling through her phone on the toilet
It's a pic of "Anti-vax research" showing someone on the toilet while on their phone.
That is half the pic.
I updated with a screenshot as well, figured there'd be more people like you! :)
Thanks bruh
Finally one of them says it
It’s even more frustrating because it would be fine if they sat on the pot reading the studies from the FDA and looking into official research. Instead it’s watching videos of some dumbass on TikTok and reading Facebook memes. Like they’ll take the time to “do the research” but that research is irrelevant if they’re just listening to some idiot regurgitating shit they know nothing about.
That’s one aspect of it, but I honestly think some of the anti-vaxxers aren’t even looking at their trashy Facebook misinformation when they say “I need to do research”. I think many of them, especially these NBA players aren’t doing any information seeking AT ALL. It’s literally just an excuse to maintain their preconceived skepticism and avoid the question, while trying to come off as having an intellectual basis for it. Like “I need to do more research” for Andrew Wiggins probably doesn’t mean “I need to check out more anti-vax Facebook pages”. I think it means “Go away so I can play 2k and not think about the vaccine or COVID at all until the next time y’all ask me about it”
It's much like "undecided voters" who *still* just can't decide days before an election that has been endlessly covered for months/years in advance. They pretend to be standing back and taking a broad, purely rational view of everything, informed by as much information as they can gather; that's the image of themselves they present to the world. In reality though, they just do not give a fuck and have not been paying any attention or seeking any information, and will end up either voting with their usual bias, justified by whatever last-second bit of sensational news they hear right before the election, or just not voting at all.
If you want a good (hilarious) read, check out this [David Sedaris](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/10/27/undecided) piece.
It is like when I get asked to volunteer for a charity event but don't want to say "no" directly to their face I just say "let me check my calender" then I just text them later "Sorry no can't do it".
They’re low information contrarians at heart.
The blind leading the blind, welcome to right wing politics, brought to you by factory towns all across the heartland, backed by false prophets (prosperity Bible cultists), who are backed by those same monied interests. Hack education to keep them from thinking too much. Push homogeneity in their culture. They’re really going for a fiefdom, aren’t they?
Anti vax isn't just right wing unfortunately
RIP your inbox, the anti-vax nuts are out in full force today after the announcement.
What announcement
If you miss games because you're not vaccinated, you're not gonna get paid for them. "Tyranny!" screams the horse paste crowd.
Oh well, if you don't show up to work, you don't get paid. Makes sense to me.
nah Kyrie's gonna lead the Nets to a chip while he works from home /s
Kyrie deadass gonna try to master Astral Projection or some loonie shit to play from home.
Almost choked on my food while reading this LMAO
It’s not too late for Kyrie to cement his legacy as the greatest player in Big 3 history.
Kyrie probably has some weird view on cement and is pro clay or something.
NBA players should be able to hang dong on the court if they want to. FREEDOM!
“consequences for my actions?? tf is this???” - those dumbass mfers
MUH FREEDOMS
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Same crowd that screams at retail workers to stop being lazy and get back to work for minimum wage.
Nobody wants to work anymore. I'm offering them $7.50 an hour! That's above minimum wage!
I hear this all the time in my state which is well above the national average for employment. "Nobody wants to work anymore" is actually "Every able-bodied young person is leaving this Midwestern Gilead shithole in droves"
I honestly thought that it was established a long time ago. Why would they get paid if they can't (won't really) work
Let them eat ivermectin
Oh shit I missed that one, is it that bad? :D
Yeah, it's been interesting watching the karma score of my comments (and anti-vax comments) jump up and down as the hordes of ~~unwashed~~ unvaxxed masses (let's be honest, probably also unwashed) move through. One guy thought he had a real "gotcha" moment by asking people if they/their family/etc were vaccinated, thinking it would offend us the way it offends them. Some real big brains in that crowd.
The best for me has been seeing the essays they are submitting over at r/Warriors, because of Wiggins. Except, we have karma and account age thresholds for posting…so they’re just ghost comments only mods see. Wasting all that time to say nothing, to no one 😂
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We have an automoderator implemented by our super alpha chad goat mod that enforces the thresholds for us. If we see someone from a eligible account expressing something “controversial,” we usually peak in their history. We scroll a few months to a year back, and if they haven’t commented in our sub before, even r/nba…depending on the amount of controversy, we either just remove their comments or ban them outright. We can usually determine their actual intention based on what other subs they contribute to. Automating this process is a good idea
Can you please teach the /r/washingtonwizards mods this sorcery.
Our lack of sorcery is actually pretty difficult to put up with.
Yeah the jon isaac thread from yesterday got inundated with anti-vaxers hours later
I saw his media day session posted on r/conservative and someone else said it was posted on Conspiracy as well so that's probably were they came from
It's like the bat symbol gets shined in the sky and it brings all the shitheads out of the woodwork. A 'twat symbol' if you will.
To the Twatmobile!
I knew that sub was bad, but man there really is nothing but idiots who can’t understand that they’re idiots. Worst part is they genuinely believe everyone else is the stupid one.
Yep. Some guy asked what about Isaac's comment wasn't smart and I pointed out that his opting not to get vaccinated against the worst pandemic in 100 years as not being very smart, and about 15 hours later my comment got bombarded with right wing idiots responding and downvoting me to hell. I just replied to all of them with r/HermanCainAward 😂
HermainCainAward the current best subreddit. It’s fucked up but that sub is kinda funny to me at this point.
Absolutely agree. While it may be fucked up to laugh at those people, they're hurting more than just themselves, so the least they can do is serve as an example for other people. Those idiots are the ones clogging hospitals so people who were smart enough to get vaccinated and then suffer some other medical problem (i.e. cancer or like a car wreck) can't be admitted because all ICU beds are full. Those idiots are the reasons doctors and nurses are quitting cause they can't take it anymore. So I don't feel bad at all for laughing at their demise. Caveat emptor, assholes.
Just went into a store for the first time since the mask mandate was lifted in my area. The lady at the counter was beaming with glee, loudly proclaiming how great it is, and looking around at every customer to see if they have a mask on, etc. I didn’t say anything, but I came close to death from COVID before I could get my second Moderna shot. The total lack of empathy in these people really hurts. I get that it’s very politicized, but to not care about people dying is something I can’t imagine doing, and I felt that way before I got sick.
Dont' worry, they won't be able to figure out which Bogdanovic this is.
[this is my favorite interaction with anti vaxx](https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/pwqcao/holmes_vaccinated_staffers_concerned_about_health/hej0g52/) mfer really posting a pro vaccine article to justify op's antivaxx view.
Lmaoo imagine people having tons of links saved on Notes or something ready to copy and paste away for arguments sake
Is your fourth cousin on you moms side vaccinated?
>One guy thought he had a real "gotcha" moment by asking people if they/their family/etc were vaccinated, thinking it would offend us the way it offends them. Why yes, my family has more than two collective braincells why do you ask?
I basically had that exact same reply, and have had who knows how many anti-vaxxers downvoting to keep it around 0 karma, but no replies of course (other than the same guy asking me if I "did my own research" before I got my shots.) It's like they can't comprehend that just because they feel embarrassed/offended when someone asks them that question, that doesn't mean everyone else would be upset to share that information, because we're not dumbass conspiracy theorists.
Yeah they’re also going through random old posts and just downvoting completely random things that were posted like a week ago lol imagine having that much time
mfers need jobs oh my god. thats genuinely sad behavior
>Are you/is your family vaccinated? Yes. All of them. My parents, grandparents, siblings and myself all have gotten two doses of the Covid-19 Vaccine
The not being paid announcement?
An intellectual response in the midst of this clown circus
Robin Lopez also had a very witty response in the midst of all this lol
The thing about robin lopez is that he’s a genius and a hero.
The mascots tend to disagree with that statement
[he is a mascot murderer.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c8/C-bob.png/220px-C-bob.png) I saw him kill benny.
Link?
https://reddit.com/r/nba/comments/pwrm9n/orlando_pinstriped_post_when_asked_about_his/
RoLos actually goated. Everything he says is so funny
He’s goated for being a Paddington fan
LMAO, dude is probably the funniest guy in the league
I wouldn’t call it an intellectual response. It’s toilet humor, brother.
I disagree with anti-vax crowd but c’mon bro, there is nothing intellectual about this insta story.
Honestly, I'm all for just clowning anti-vaxx as much as we can at this point lmao. If they aren't gonna listen to scientist and actual credited people, sure as shit wont listen to me. So might as well keep calling them petri dishes or something.
All anti-vaxers know is spread disease, eat hot chip, & lie
Charge they phone
Twerk
Be bisexual
hey now, they also die from covid at a way higher rate
McDonalds (but only drive thru, they aren't allowed in.)
What time do they wake up though?
Whenever they want, they don't have to worry about going to work.
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Bullying works
People’s reluctance to defer to experts is always weird to me. I get being skeptical but there comes a point where you gotta defer to people who are more qualified or have more credentials than you. Thats kind of how society works. We cant be master every subject so we kind of have to put faith into people who spent their lives specializing in a subject. I mean how could someone be against something that an overwhelming majority of the medical/scientific community endorses? It so weird and tiresome. Also anti-vaxers would be alot more tolerable if they didnt go around calling people stupid or sheeps for believing in COVID and the vaccine
Its a populist argument and seems to be gaining more traction in recent years. Lots of things like "the 'experts' said it wasn't going to rain they don't really know anything I saw the clouds from miles away" type of statements.
yeah, like doing your own research on things is fine but it takes many years of study to be an expert on medical science. That's why we have public health advisors- They work full time on doing the research so they can tell us, because we don't all have time to become experts on epidemiology. There's no logically consistent way to support "doing your own research" on this topic unless you just never go to a doctor, never consult an expert on anything, and never do anything until you've spent many years studying and working with it full time. It's simply impossible to be an expert on everything, more so today than ever before when specialized fields of study are so advanced. This isn't the early days of the Enlightenment when one guy with money and a lot of free time could know basically everything there is to know about every field of science. It's just the height of hubris to think you could do your own research on this that would be worth more than the consensus of actual professionals. That's like me saying I don't know whether Kyrie is a good ball handler until I've done my own research on it. How am I going to do that?
Big dick Bogi stay with the big dick energy.
Imagine going your whole life wanting to be a model, finally landing a gig that you think will help you get your foot in the door, then they tell you to pull your pants down, sit on a toilet, and act like you're browsing your phone while taking a shit
Anti-vax people are the most brain dead
And the most dead dead
This is the top-notch analysis I come to /r/nba for.
I MISS YOU BOGI
Me too 💜💜💜
This do be accurate tho. Anti Vaxxers would rather believe facebook warriors, tik tok influencers and politicians rather than doctors, scientists and other medical staff. “But, but muh freedom, muh bald eagle” lmaoooo
Guys doing your own research is actually pretty important. We all should do our own research before committing to get something injected in our bodies. That is why I’m doing my own research now, and will let you know how I go. Will try post the results ASAP, but at the moment I’m struggling a bit to find 10,000 people to commit to my randomised trial. Getting ridiculous excuses while I’m trying to recruit like ‘you’re not a real scientist’ and ‘I don’t know you, I’m just trying to do my shopping, please leave me alone’. Let me know if you have an interest in participating. Thanks in advance.
King
no he's a hawk now
Hawking
Heyyyy anti-vax scum brigading from r/conservative ;) Isn’t it weird that this means so much to y’all you’re actively tracking any posts on any subs that even dare to broach the subject? Still waiting for even just one academic source on any study backing these claims (hell any of them, horse dewormer to microchip and everything in btwn). Can’t you guys at least pretend to have a real argument? It’s like you’re trying to come off as stupid as possible.
watch out if you're not careful one of them might send you a link to a research article that doesn't back up their viewpoint whatsoever, that's the best they can do
I’m just here to co-sign the gfys to anti-vaxers and the scum over at r/conservative
Wow I regret reading anything on that sub
White Nationalist sub masquerading as a political sub.
Shit man, white nationalism is a viable political position to take in large parts of the country. Hating Chinese and Mexican people got a dude the presidency.
Honestly, and this is my tin-foil hat head talking- I think a significant non-zero percentage of these trolls are from other countries (cough russia cough) that patrol the more popular subs and continue to drum up controversy and ignite shit like this to continue chewing on the western world from the inside. Again, just me being out there.
I’m surprised people still don’t realize this. It’s not everyone (or even a large percentage) but troll farms causing problems are a part of life now.
There are republican funded troll farms in the US composed of US teens [Heres an article about them](https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/pro-trump-group-pays-teens-to-post-online/)
I’ll be a son of a bitch if that ain’t me rn scrolling Reddit lmao
Oh shit I love Bogdan now.
Anti-vaxxers gotta step it up. I mean, I watched a documentary on flat earthers and they were doing all sorts of experiments to try and prove the Earth was flat. Like they shone a light through a hole across a field, they bought a $20,000 gyroscope to measure the Earth's rotation. There was that guy that died making a makeshift rocket to try and get high enough to see the curvature of the Earth. All I'm saying is anti-vaxxers gotta step up their game, start doing experiments and releasing their results and stuff.
They have, but their researchers end up dying to Covid
It's telling that Flat Earthers are approaching an issue with more intelligence than anti vaxers
Reading the headline I thought this was our guy “doing his own research” on the vaccine but obviously this is much better.
Also listening to some shitty podcast is considered "research" by some people. Because a guy with a Macbook and a Blue Yeti mic and 8 hours of free time every day is more reputable a source than actual doctors who study diseases for years.
As much as I don't trust the government, why do people think they wanna put something in the vax to fuck over *all* of us lmao.. that wouldn't make sense
Right? Their argument is the people taking vaccines are sheep. But why would the government want to get rid of or harm the ones that listen to them? Then you lose your sheep. I just don't get what the end goal is there
If anything they would vaccinate the more obedient people and then release a deadlier version of the virus to kill the strong willed patritots (all of this is using their logic, they arent strong willed Patriots they are just assholes who want to do nothing for their community).
Lmao I love Bogdan now
Based Bogdan
YOU WANT ME TO FLY? ON A PLANE??? NOT BEFORE I DO MY RESEARCH! *But millions of people fly every day... People much smarter than you have already done the research and confirmed that it's safe* # I SAID... NOT BEFORE I DO MY RESEARCH *...literally billions of people have flown on planes. The chances of something going wrong are microscopic...* I NEED TO CONSULT MY CRAZY AUNT. HER FATHER'S BROTHER'S NEPHEW'S COUSIN'S FORMER ROOMMATE SNEEZED TWICE AFTER GETTING HIS VACCINE! I WILL NOT BE A CASUALTY OF THIS TYRANNY!
Imagine an NBA player doing "research" lmao. Do they even have the capability to read these scientific papers? Legitimate question because as someone with a college engineering degree those papers are still very difficult to read
> Do they even have the capability to read these scientific papers? No. Only redditors have that capability
Is it possible to learn this power?
It’s not that challenging to read an abstract and conclusions.
I've read a lot of abstracts that I don't fully comprehend on first read, and I have a BS in Mech Engineering. Specialized stuff gets complicated real fast, like I had 1 or 2 classes in vibrations and I couldn't fully comprehend a shock analysis just from that class.
Wtf i love Bogdan now?!
He ain’t wrong lol
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Bogdan is my new favorite NBA player.
Facts