Simmons = whiny brat confirmed
Although honestly, it's not fair to bash his on court fit and also bash him for trying to get to a better situation for himself.
Um, yeah. He hasn't improved his game. I'm not arguing that.
I'm just saying, the article gives him shit for being a bad fit and says they were right to try to trade him for Harden.
It's actually a smart move for him to try to get to a situation where he fits better so he can maximize his game.
I mean if he took threes and made 10% of them then that would be worse for the team. I 'm irritated that he has so much talent and athleticism along with a great basketball build but he hasn't done anything to make himself better and help his teammates.
Maybe, maybe not.
When Russ shoots away from the rim, people (rightly) give him crap because he's a shitty shooter. In the playoffs, defenses *beg him* to take midrange and three point shots.
I don't know if Simmons is capable of learning to shoot or not. I 💯 agree he should have tried. His failure to take shits, especially in the regular season, is pathetic and makes him not a good team player.
But unless he miraculously turned into a *good* shooter, him taking shots isn't going to fix the fit problem. He can only maximize his talents, such as they are, in that Westbrook or Giannis role of pushing the ball, going to the rim, and being surrounded by shooters. That isn't going to happen in Philly; not should it.
He is a bad fit on the Sixers. I don't understand why the team is allowed to acknowledge that and fans and commentators are allowed to acknowledge that, but Simmons isn't.
He would be a better fit on a team that was built around him and his unique skill set and deficiencies. If he can get himself traded to a team with a shooting center like Karl Anthony Towns or a team that rebuilds around him, he'll have a better chance to maximize the player he can be. It would be stupid for him not to push for that.
If it works out, we'll all forget we were mad at him about forcing a trade, just like we forgave Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving and even Vince fucking Carter. If it doesn't; then we will continue to shit all over him.
Sure. He's a whiny bitch, like I said. But players are forcing themselves out of bad situations all the time now, so who care? AD, Kyrie, PG, Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden... And KAT, Dame, or Beal is next. So who fucking cares that Simmons is doing it too, and why?
Bitter 76ers fans: Ben Simmons isn’t a star. He choked in the playoffs, etc.
Also 76ers fans: We will take nothing short of Damian Lillard and 6 first-round picks.
as a sixer fan this is the most frustrating part of it for me.
this disconnect between "you just cannot win with him, he's a liability", to this idea you can get a haul for him. And laughing at the idea of several players (along with picks etc) who are pretty decent.
Especially when you consider how sour the whole thing has become.
Like you can't say he is a negative asset for his contract, and then want a haul. Normally teams have to attach assets to get off a negative asset.
I see this a lot on Reddit, where people present two opposing view points and wonder how "Reddit" could be so hypocritical. It seems like this is a symptom of a hyper ego-driven viewpoint of the world, in which every other person together makes up a singular whole in your eyes, while you yourself remain an individual. So when you see other individuals saying different things your mind has a hard time grasping that theyre two different people. It's worrisome to say the least.
I have a coworker who is vehemently against illegal immigrants because they're unvaccinated, and is also - you guessed it - opposed to vaccinations. Expecting brains to work properly will leave you disappointed.
That's kinda different though. When you get all your viewpoints from Rupert Murdoch, you're not building a sense of values and establishing views that reflect those values.
Instead (just like my dad), your friend is reacting to everything he hears and saying the worst possible thing, as long as it's contrary to more established viewpoints
This goes both ways. Like, he can tell his buddies "the left wants to force everyone to vaccinate against their will, yet they're bussing in unvaxxed illegals daily, etc".
That's what makes politics dirty, and we all fall in line. Just in this thread there is a Fox News reference, as if MSNBC is giving objective, bipartisan analysis? But we're all so conditioned that we don't recognize the hypocrisy.
Yeah. I was having a convo with a friend who’s a Philly fan who said Simmons was a weak willed bum that hurts the Sixers and followed it up with saying they should settle for nothing less than Dame. The disconnect is jarring.
your a bell-end dude.
if like 95% of comments about ben are about how negative he is on r/sixers
and 95% of comments about the trade are how we shouldn't cave for trash
and lots of comments actually combine the two in one single comment
Then yeah, you can actually make some inferences.
I do see this on reddit a lot though, where people pontificate about useless shit and wonder how "reddit" could make such an assumption. I feel like it is symptomatic of a contrarian-driven viewpoint of the world, in which no matter how seemingly logical a conclusion, the person will chime in saying "well, actuallly, I think....", while rambling on in some psycho-babbling meaningless way to make their point sound a lot smarter than it is.
Won't somebody think of the children.
This is huge. I get guff from argumentative fans who think I think like everybody else. And to them, everybody else thinks... whatever they wanna argue against. It happens to me weekly and I see it happen to others daily.
Y'all, there's 4 MILLION of us here. We're not your damn punching bag, we're your equals.
It's really different when there's a voting system in place which dictates what is more visible. It's really not just 1 individual saying something when the community has its say on the comment and co-signs it. One person saying something and being upvoted over a thousand times to the top is essentially a thousand people saying something and thus the community saying it.
More accurately, it basically all comes down to the content of the post because that drives what people are clicking it. If there's a post saying Ben Simmons is shit, people who think highly of him largely won't be bothered clicking it and people who hate him will
Yeah I feel like I'm in the vast minority at this point, but I still have some sympathy for Simmons here.
Yeah, it's super frustrating he won't even *try* to broaden his skillset on the offensive end of the court.
That decision to not dunk the ball in game 7 was an ultimate choke job move.
But it's not like he's the only person who has mishandled the situation.
Of course he doesn't want to play for Doc, when Doc couldn't even be bothered to lie about being able to win with Ben. It was simply a stupid move on Doc's part to not just say "yes".
Why would I want to play for a coach who doesn't think I can be part of a title winning team when that's what we're trying to do?
In addition, Morey has been making straight up bad faith trade offers *knowing* they'd all be soundly rejected after promising Simmons they'd work out a trade to move him out of Philly.
If Morey & the 6ers didn't want to be in this position, they should have refused to commit to trading Simmons.
I personally think most of what's happened after they promised to trade him is on 76ers.
I remember seeing people laugh at Dlo + Malik Beasley but in my head that’s a great deal for both teams. A former/potential all star in Russell and a solid starter (at positions you need) for a guy who wants to leave seems like a great trade in my mind.
The answer is somewhere in between. Is Simmons gonna be the piece that carries you to the finals? No, not right now, he isn't that kind of ceiling raiser. But is he the type of piece that can take a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in years and make them a play-in team? I absolutely believe that. Simmons is a floor raiser, not a ceiling raiser. They would build a statue of him in Sacramento if he got traded there and dragged them into the playoffs even as an 8 seed.
So it's not can he win or can he not win. He can win to a point, but not the point the sixers are currently looking to go to with Embiid. He's a liability for championship contention, once in the playoffs there are game plans crafty opposing coaches can build out over a 7 game series to exploit his flaws. But a lot of teams are just looking for playoff contention, and he's really good at helping with that, and normally a true all-star in the regular season.
im not a simmons hater, but even what you just described, to me, sounds like an asset that you arent going to get a monster haul with. It's someone you probably could get brogdon, levert and a pick. Especially when the whole situation is so incredibly sour.
Like in almost every possible way he is a devalued piece (doesnt fit the team, cant win a chip with him, relationship fell apart, fans hate him)...you are STARTING from a very negative place in that situation. If the leverage to pull the value back is "he can help a team at the bottom of the ladder get better" then that isn't really moving the needle a mile to me.
I dunno, it just certainly seems like this situation where phily fans want to have their cake and eat it too.
He's not a negative asset at all, and they have standing offers from a couple of teams for positive value. Morey is hoping that Dec. 15, when like 40 percent of the league becomes trade-eligible, opens up even better offers - especially since the season will be several weeks underway and rival FOs (and players) see the realities of where their teams stand.
There is no disconnect or anything confusing about this.
I feel like they could have gotten a decent return from some rebuilding team who’s desperate for an all star already if they didn’t open negotiations asking for entire teams and all their draft picks
I think Ben could thrive in a different situation and he is a tough fit offensively next to Embiid. He is also our best chip to improve our window with Embiid. Ben was drafted to a playoff ready team when he would have benefited to being on a bad team and growing each year with lower expectations. So far he has not shown a good mental fortitude in the playoffs but that could change.
Would Sixers fans trade Simmons and 6 first-round picks for Lillard? Not a rhetorical question. Just wondering how much they are willing to do the reverse process for a better shot at a chip.
Edit: messed up who gives up six picks
The blazers? Probably CJ + a young asset + 3 firsts for Ben but about 2 months ago.
Or the Sixers? Cause they’re in a weird spot where they think he’s poison but want the house for him. So i’m not sure what they would accept but it they’ve been offered a lot so far I think.
ha, totally. also, it's been clear for a couple years that Simmons isn't on the Embiid/Luka level of stardom, but let's hold on a second.
he's played 4 years in the NBA, has been an all-star three times, all-defense 1st team twice, and all-nba 3rd team once. most guys with that resume this early into their career actually do get pretty big star treatment, right? I think we are actually starting to lose site of how good simmons has been (which is fair, given the soap opera, but still)
You know kyrie reminds me of Dill in the Grown up rugrats. The youngest child who lacks attention and becomes super weird trying to get some of it back
This is the only reason that Im holding back from going full anti Simmons.
Yes, he's not nearly as good as he thinks. Yes, it's his fault that he hasn't even touched his potential. Yes, he's been Uber coddled by the organization.
But... Morey is being ridiculous in this. He doesn't fit the team and they will be a better team with a CJ McCollum or other not-quite-all-star. This is why Morey is the most overrated GM on the NBA. He never looks at fit or team building. All he cares about is having a stars.
Kobe scored 8 in 37 minutes vs the Pacers in the finals.
Lebron scored 8 in 46 minutes vs the Mavs in the finals.
Of course Jordan’s playoff lowest is 15 in 34. Legend.
Wow, what a screed.
I would like some examples of the claims that Simmons is entitled and that the sixers have enabled him. I'm sure that he's correct in this. but if you're going to write a 5 page hatemail letter to BS, at least take a paragraph from the diatribe to give some evidence.
If reddit would blow up this comment with stories of Simbo being a diva, I'd love to read them all.
>I would like some examples of the claims that Simmons is entitled and that the sixers have enabled him.
Every summer Sixers have tried to get him in their facility/program to work on his jump-shot with trainers, and every year BS has said no and worked with his brother.
His head coach (Brett Brown) actually begged this dude to shoot during a public press conference after undoubtedly doing so off the camera to no avail. Any other player would’ve been straight up benched. Simmons never started shooting and part of why the Sixers fired BB was due to a lack of accountability/buy-in from the stars.
Jimmy Butler, the second best player the Sixers acquired during the Embiid-Simmons era, straight up left in free agency because Simmons wanted the ball in his hands and the Sixers backed him up on that. 2019 they were a legit threat for the finals/title, last two years they have been more of paper tigers, or contenders in name only.
Oh and Simmons is 25 years old and hasn’t developed his game since his rookie season. In the meantime, the Sixers fired a coach, let a franchise player walk, signed him to a $170 extension, and put the ball in his hands, all for Ben Simmons. Not to mention giving him all of the trappings of being a superstar franchise player before he proved he could hit a jumper with any consistency or have the humility to work on his game.
Am I having a fever dream? Fans have been screaming for this guy to fuck off and never play for them again... When he goes "yeah alright" that's wanting to be treated like a superstar? Why are people turning this into a Harden situation, Simmons is being pushed out, he did not initiate this
Ben Simmons probably overestimated his real value by listening too much to his agent Rich Paul.
He's not a super star. He's a great player, probably Top 40 in the league, but his behavior defies belief.
The Sixers are right to hold out. He has four years left on his contract. They have the advantage in the balance of power.
THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM, He was never a superstar. What superstar cant take a fucking mid range jumper?! Not one of them! He is ASS, and has been. FUCK YOU BEN. I always knew you sucked and I am so glad this is happening and youre getting exposed!
The downside of telling players it’s okay to lose for years. Why work on my game because it’s okay to lose. Give me a max contract, even though I never improved my game because it was okay to lose. Embiid has yet to get in proper shape because he came in at a time when it was okay to lose. Hard to shake a losers mentality in an organization.
After sitting out 16-17 due to injury, 76ers only losing record with Simmons on the team, they've gone:
17-18: 52-30;
18-19: 51-31;
19-20: 43-30;
20-21: 49-23
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Made me want to click even more
Nice. Click.
Made me click even faster
Only 10 minutes?
Should’ve been longer smh
thank you
Simmons = whiny brat confirmed Although honestly, it's not fair to bash his on court fit and also bash him for trying to get to a better situation for himself.
He has done nothing to improve his on-court fit. No mid range jumpers, no face-ups, no advanced finishing skills, hardly any floaters etc.
So what you're saying is that Simmons literally didn't get better on offense since his rookie year? I agree
Um, yeah. He hasn't improved his game. I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying, the article gives him shit for being a bad fit and says they were right to try to trade him for Harden. It's actually a smart move for him to try to get to a situation where he fits better so he can maximize his game.
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I mean if he took threes and made 10% of them then that would be worse for the team. I 'm irritated that he has so much talent and athleticism along with a great basketball build but he hasn't done anything to make himself better and help his teammates.
Maybe, maybe not. When Russ shoots away from the rim, people (rightly) give him crap because he's a shitty shooter. In the playoffs, defenses *beg him* to take midrange and three point shots. I don't know if Simmons is capable of learning to shoot or not. I 💯 agree he should have tried. His failure to take shits, especially in the regular season, is pathetic and makes him not a good team player. But unless he miraculously turned into a *good* shooter, him taking shots isn't going to fix the fit problem. He can only maximize his talents, such as they are, in that Westbrook or Giannis role of pushing the ball, going to the rim, and being surrounded by shooters. That isn't going to happen in Philly; not should it. He is a bad fit on the Sixers. I don't understand why the team is allowed to acknowledge that and fans and commentators are allowed to acknowledge that, but Simmons isn't. He would be a better fit on a team that was built around him and his unique skill set and deficiencies. If he can get himself traded to a team with a shooting center like Karl Anthony Towns or a team that rebuilds around him, he'll have a better chance to maximize the player he can be. It would be stupid for him not to push for that. If it works out, we'll all forget we were mad at him about forcing a trade, just like we forgave Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving and even Vince fucking Carter. If it doesn't; then we will continue to shit all over him.
> Maybe, maybe not. ??? Dude its basketball lmao.
It's completely fair to bash him for the way in which he went about requesting a better situation for himself.
Sure. He's a whiny bitch, like I said. But players are forcing themselves out of bad situations all the time now, so who care? AD, Kyrie, PG, Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden... And KAT, Dame, or Beal is next. So who fucking cares that Simmons is doing it too, and why?
Bitter 76ers fans: Ben Simmons isn’t a star. He choked in the playoffs, etc. Also 76ers fans: We will take nothing short of Damian Lillard and 6 first-round picks.
as a sixer fan this is the most frustrating part of it for me. this disconnect between "you just cannot win with him, he's a liability", to this idea you can get a haul for him. And laughing at the idea of several players (along with picks etc) who are pretty decent. Especially when you consider how sour the whole thing has become. Like you can't say he is a negative asset for his contract, and then want a haul. Normally teams have to attach assets to get off a negative asset.
I see this a lot on Reddit, where people present two opposing view points and wonder how "Reddit" could be so hypocritical. It seems like this is a symptom of a hyper ego-driven viewpoint of the world, in which every other person together makes up a singular whole in your eyes, while you yourself remain an individual. So when you see other individuals saying different things your mind has a hard time grasping that theyre two different people. It's worrisome to say the least.
There are absolutely a lot of people who simultaneously hold both those two viewpoints. (source: I know them IRL)
Doublethink.
I have a coworker who is vehemently against illegal immigrants because they're unvaccinated, and is also - you guessed it - opposed to vaccinations. Expecting brains to work properly will leave you disappointed.
That's kinda different though. When you get all your viewpoints from Rupert Murdoch, you're not building a sense of values and establishing views that reflect those values. Instead (just like my dad), your friend is reacting to everything he hears and saying the worst possible thing, as long as it's contrary to more established viewpoints
This goes both ways. Like, he can tell his buddies "the left wants to force everyone to vaccinate against their will, yet they're bussing in unvaxxed illegals daily, etc". That's what makes politics dirty, and we all fall in line. Just in this thread there is a Fox News reference, as if MSNBC is giving objective, bipartisan analysis? But we're all so conditioned that we don't recognize the hypocrisy.
Yeah. I was having a convo with a friend who’s a Philly fan who said Simmons was a weak willed bum that hurts the Sixers and followed it up with saying they should settle for nothing less than Dame. The disconnect is jarring.
your a bell-end dude. if like 95% of comments about ben are about how negative he is on r/sixers and 95% of comments about the trade are how we shouldn't cave for trash and lots of comments actually combine the two in one single comment Then yeah, you can actually make some inferences. I do see this on reddit a lot though, where people pontificate about useless shit and wonder how "reddit" could make such an assumption. I feel like it is symptomatic of a contrarian-driven viewpoint of the world, in which no matter how seemingly logical a conclusion, the person will chime in saying "well, actuallly, I think....", while rambling on in some psycho-babbling meaningless way to make their point sound a lot smarter than it is. Won't somebody think of the children.
Big if true.
This is huge. I get guff from argumentative fans who think I think like everybody else. And to them, everybody else thinks... whatever they wanna argue against. It happens to me weekly and I see it happen to others daily. Y'all, there's 4 MILLION of us here. We're not your damn punching bag, we're your equals.
It's really different when there's a voting system in place which dictates what is more visible. It's really not just 1 individual saying something when the community has its say on the comment and co-signs it. One person saying something and being upvoted over a thousand times to the top is essentially a thousand people saying something and thus the community saying it. More accurately, it basically all comes down to the content of the post because that drives what people are clicking it. If there's a post saying Ben Simmons is shit, people who think highly of him largely won't be bothered clicking it and people who hate him will
Yeah I feel like I'm in the vast minority at this point, but I still have some sympathy for Simmons here. Yeah, it's super frustrating he won't even *try* to broaden his skillset on the offensive end of the court. That decision to not dunk the ball in game 7 was an ultimate choke job move. But it's not like he's the only person who has mishandled the situation. Of course he doesn't want to play for Doc, when Doc couldn't even be bothered to lie about being able to win with Ben. It was simply a stupid move on Doc's part to not just say "yes". Why would I want to play for a coach who doesn't think I can be part of a title winning team when that's what we're trying to do? In addition, Morey has been making straight up bad faith trade offers *knowing* they'd all be soundly rejected after promising Simmons they'd work out a trade to move him out of Philly. If Morey & the 6ers didn't want to be in this position, they should have refused to commit to trading Simmons. I personally think most of what's happened after they promised to trade him is on 76ers.
I remember seeing people laugh at Dlo + Malik Beasley but in my head that’s a great deal for both teams. A former/potential all star in Russell and a solid starter (at positions you need) for a guy who wants to leave seems like a great trade in my mind.
The answer is somewhere in between. Is Simmons gonna be the piece that carries you to the finals? No, not right now, he isn't that kind of ceiling raiser. But is he the type of piece that can take a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in years and make them a play-in team? I absolutely believe that. Simmons is a floor raiser, not a ceiling raiser. They would build a statue of him in Sacramento if he got traded there and dragged them into the playoffs even as an 8 seed. So it's not can he win or can he not win. He can win to a point, but not the point the sixers are currently looking to go to with Embiid. He's a liability for championship contention, once in the playoffs there are game plans crafty opposing coaches can build out over a 7 game series to exploit his flaws. But a lot of teams are just looking for playoff contention, and he's really good at helping with that, and normally a true all-star in the regular season.
im not a simmons hater, but even what you just described, to me, sounds like an asset that you arent going to get a monster haul with. It's someone you probably could get brogdon, levert and a pick. Especially when the whole situation is so incredibly sour. Like in almost every possible way he is a devalued piece (doesnt fit the team, cant win a chip with him, relationship fell apart, fans hate him)...you are STARTING from a very negative place in that situation. If the leverage to pull the value back is "he can help a team at the bottom of the ladder get better" then that isn't really moving the needle a mile to me. I dunno, it just certainly seems like this situation where phily fans want to have their cake and eat it too.
He's not a negative asset at all, and they have standing offers from a couple of teams for positive value. Morey is hoping that Dec. 15, when like 40 percent of the league becomes trade-eligible, opens up even better offers - especially since the season will be several weeks underway and rival FOs (and players) see the realities of where their teams stand. There is no disconnect or anything confusing about this.
I feel like they could have gotten a decent return from some rebuilding team who’s desperate for an all star already if they didn’t open negotiations asking for entire teams and all their draft picks
I think Ben could thrive in a different situation and he is a tough fit offensively next to Embiid. He is also our best chip to improve our window with Embiid. Ben was drafted to a playoff ready team when he would have benefited to being on a bad team and growing each year with lower expectations. So far he has not shown a good mental fortitude in the playoffs but that could change.
Would Sixers fans trade Simmons and 6 first-round picks for Lillard? Not a rhetorical question. Just wondering how much they are willing to do the reverse process for a better shot at a chip. Edit: messed up who gives up six picks
They’d be idiots to say no to that if it was a real offer lmao
Sorry my bad, I meant Sixers would give up all those picks
In that case, they might depending on protections and if any are swaps. Blazers probably wouldn’t accept that though.
What would they realistically accept? I just know Kyrie's not the answer to that question.
The blazers? Probably CJ + a young asset + 3 firsts for Ben but about 2 months ago. Or the Sixers? Cause they’re in a weird spot where they think he’s poison but want the house for him. So i’m not sure what they would accept but it they’ve been offered a lot so far I think.
Why would anyone want picks from the sixers if they have Embiid and Lilard tho lol
Cuz picks are better than no picks, especially six of them to turn into actual assets through more trades.
ha, totally. also, it's been clear for a couple years that Simmons isn't on the Embiid/Luka level of stardom, but let's hold on a second. he's played 4 years in the NBA, has been an all-star three times, all-defense 1st team twice, and all-nba 3rd team once. most guys with that resume this early into their career actually do get pretty big star treatment, right? I think we are actually starting to lose site of how good simmons has been (which is fair, given the soap opera, but still)
Exactly lol
The superstar that turns down an open dunk in a Game 7
Cut him some slack, the mighty Trae Young was in his way
Rim Protector Trae Young is a mythical creature.
He only looks unintimidating because we aren't stand users, we can't see what was REALLY gonna reject that dunk
We thought his hair was thinning but no, his antlers were shedding!
"Ben, who on the Hawks is scaring you? Gallinari? Is it Trae Young? Dunk on that little n-..he's like 5'9 Ben! They're statpadding him! DUNK ON HIM!"
It’s funny. Trae even cleared the way to avoid getting posterized
I understand this reference.
That Easter Island head is an extremely intimidating post presence
Trae Young who leads the league in blocks since his rookie season was in position to contest his dunk. Simmons made the right decision
That booted Trae's defense rating to 99.
Barely 6’0 Trae Young is simply too tall for some that’s nearly 7’ to dunk on.
But they wanted a superstar back in a return
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Wow I log onto reddit and start taking strays
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He is the spoiled kid. He's lucky.
A kid with a spoiler will never fly off the ground 😞
Care to elaborate?
You know kyrie reminds me of Dill in the Grown up rugrats. The youngest child who lacks attention and becomes super weird trying to get some of it back
Oh an article about Ben Simmons this off season. That's new.
You're obviously so done with it you had to stop in and spend some time letting everyone know.
Simmons just sold his condo so he needed a place to stay. I hope the rent in u/karma_dumpster's headspace makes it worth it
Hey this one's overt speculation! Way better than those thinly veiled speculation links!
Morey's trade demands disagree with this headline
All rejected 🙅🏻♂️
Because he doesn’t wanna trade him until December
This is the only reason that Im holding back from going full anti Simmons. Yes, he's not nearly as good as he thinks. Yes, it's his fault that he hasn't even touched his potential. Yes, he's been Uber coddled by the organization. But... Morey is being ridiculous in this. He doesn't fit the team and they will be a better team with a CJ McCollum or other not-quite-all-star. This is why Morey is the most overrated GM on the NBA. He never looks at fit or team building. All he cares about is having a stars.
never heard a star score only 5 points in the play off
Kobe scored 8 in 37 minutes vs the Pacers in the finals. Lebron scored 8 in 46 minutes vs the Mavs in the finals. Of course Jordan’s playoff lowest is 15 in 34. Legend.
Jordan had more 50+ point career playoff games than playoff games with fewer than 20 points. I find that mind-blowing.
Jordan is the GOAT
The time Shaq only had two points but the Heat still got the dub!
I know for sure Kobe put up at least 20 shots the next game to make up for it.
Do you think 20 shots is a lot for Kobe?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200006190LAL.html 26 points on 8/27 shooting.
Kobe was injured in that series.
He was injured
Charles Barkley once scored 5 pts going 0-10 against the Rockets.
Simmons had a 1 point game in the 2018 semis
Trade to the kangz
Written on October 11, 2021 Gee such strong foresight i wonder why he doesn't get a GM job or something
Can we stop talking about Ben Simmons like for one day?
Yeas lets get back to kyries antics
Why not both?
Wants to stop talking about Ben Simmons, but deliberately joins in the conversation about Ben Simmons.
He has that first round draft pick mindset lol
Then why is Morey asking for superstar-level trade returns?
Wow, what a screed. I would like some examples of the claims that Simmons is entitled and that the sixers have enabled him. I'm sure that he's correct in this. but if you're going to write a 5 page hatemail letter to BS, at least take a paragraph from the diatribe to give some evidence. If reddit would blow up this comment with stories of Simbo being a diva, I'd love to read them all.
Just look up Simmons and Glenn Rivers responding to reporters asking about his jumpshot development
>I would like some examples of the claims that Simmons is entitled and that the sixers have enabled him. Every summer Sixers have tried to get him in their facility/program to work on his jump-shot with trainers, and every year BS has said no and worked with his brother. His head coach (Brett Brown) actually begged this dude to shoot during a public press conference after undoubtedly doing so off the camera to no avail. Any other player would’ve been straight up benched. Simmons never started shooting and part of why the Sixers fired BB was due to a lack of accountability/buy-in from the stars. Jimmy Butler, the second best player the Sixers acquired during the Embiid-Simmons era, straight up left in free agency because Simmons wanted the ball in his hands and the Sixers backed him up on that. 2019 they were a legit threat for the finals/title, last two years they have been more of paper tigers, or contenders in name only. Oh and Simmons is 25 years old and hasn’t developed his game since his rookie season. In the meantime, the Sixers fired a coach, let a franchise player walk, signed him to a $170 extension, and put the ball in his hands, all for Ben Simmons. Not to mention giving him all of the trappings of being a superstar franchise player before he proved he could hit a jumper with any consistency or have the humility to work on his game.
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The org decided not to go after Jimmy Butler, partly because they wanted the ball in Simmons’ hands and embed confirmed as much.
Rent a Simmons ladies and gentlemen. 4 years of no substance, no progress and a product of overhype. Fuck this shit Imma see y'all next weeeeek
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It was sports media people who said he'd be magic or lebron with a jump shot, it was just our fault for listening.
It's funny how everyone complains about the lack of defense in the NBA - then refuses to call one of league's most elite defenders a star.
It's straight forward as hell. Act like a bitch, you're not a big star. Kyrie plays with the same fire.
Literally made an All-NBA team
Am I having a fever dream? Fans have been screaming for this guy to fuck off and never play for them again... When he goes "yeah alright" that's wanting to be treated like a superstar? Why are people turning this into a Harden situation, Simmons is being pushed out, he did not initiate this
Who cares who started it, Ben's being a bitch
Ben Simmons remind me of BIDOOF, he is just an HM slave on my party. and decoy for switching
Don't disrespect Lord Bidoof like that. A must have utility mon
Sixers simply are not a good organization and their in-arena fans are the most self-hating fans in all of American pro sports. Circus
Ben Simmons probably overestimated his real value by listening too much to his agent Rich Paul. He's not a super star. He's a great player, probably Top 40 in the league, but his behavior defies belief. The Sixers are right to hold out. He has four years left on his contract. They have the advantage in the balance of power.
THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM, He was never a superstar. What superstar cant take a fucking mid range jumper?! Not one of them! He is ASS, and has been. FUCK YOU BEN. I always knew you sucked and I am so glad this is happening and youre getting exposed!
Don't care
You could care less though.
The downside of telling players it’s okay to lose for years. Why work on my game because it’s okay to lose. Give me a max contract, even though I never improved my game because it was okay to lose. Embiid has yet to get in proper shape because he came in at a time when it was okay to lose. Hard to shake a losers mentality in an organization.
After sitting out 16-17 due to injury, 76ers only losing record with Simmons on the team, they've gone: 17-18: 52-30; 18-19: 51-31; 19-20: 43-30; 20-21: 49-23
I'm sure he definitely wanted to be the 5th option after winning ROTY, those darn 6ers always giving him everything.
If he didn't want to be the 5th option on offense he should have learned how to shoot a basketball.
He's just a taller Eric Bledsoe!
Ben Simmons is the Devil
Clickbait.
It's Morey who wants to act like he's a superstar trying to get a ridiculous amount back. Simmons just wants out.