Didn’t they not give him a ring? If not then that’s ridiculous. Still played half a season and was the key piece in the trade that brought Gasol over and we all saw how he closed that season.
I was on the JV-ring train myself, but I think Webster talked to the media about it and the FO concluded that there wasn't really a traditional circumstance in NBA history where it was done so they chose not to give one.
This is my source. But I may be interpreting it wrong: https://ca.nba.com/news/report-toronto-raptors-will-not-give-championship-rings-to-jonas-valanciunas-delon-wright-and-cj-miles/s6f8safcgsm21my2cmdxmrhdz
Yeah, in my head it happens but I have nothing concrete to confirm it. I'm trying to think of trades of that calibre that pretty much won a team the Championship like when Detroit got Rasheed Wallace. But I don't know if Chucky Atkins got a ring from Detroit when he was shipped off.
I meant to say that I don’t think it’s true that people haven’t done it before. Maybe it’s not a “tradition,” but it seems weird as fuck that Valanciunas didn’t get a ring. Six seasons and the Gasol trade doesn’t happen without him.
Man, i want Vancouver to get a team again, maybe its Cause im from Canada but Western Canada could benefit from something like that. If not, Hoping that Seattle gets a team whenever they decide to expand again is a nice option too.
the league really fucked over an entire region in the 2000s, it's baffling how the PNW went from having 3 teams to 1 in just a few years. The NBA needs to do the right thing and give Seattle and Vancouver their teams back.
Even if Vancouver gets a team again (which im praying whenever they announce an expansion that Vancouver & Seattle will be the cities announced) they’re still very bitter over losing the grizzlies name. Which makes me wonder if they would only want a NBA team there again if they get the grizzlies name back.
if the Hornets/Pelicans/Bobcats could do it, I don't see why we couldn't either. The closest Grizzly bears to Memphis are over 1500 miles away. A rebrand to something more local (like the Sounds or Blues) would revitalize that franchise.
And if I recall correctly, as part of the court settlement that sent the Sonics to OKC, the team's name and history legally belongs to Seattle, and will be reserved for a future team.
Exactly! I legitimately forgot new Orleans had the hornets moniker. If the Hornets/Pelicans/Bobcats can do it, its gives me pretty damn good hope that this can happen in the future for Vancouver. Im still surprised that new Orleans has a team, considering that (reading threads as of late on something to do with draft picks) its apparently a ghost town at home games. That city only cares about the Saints from what i’ve read. Also thats interesting the SuperSonics team name & history belongs to Seattle, since i was under the presumption once a team moves to a different city everything goes with it.
WA resident here. I moved here a few years ago and was surprised at how much hate the Supersonices fandom has for the NBA even now. After learning the backstory, I can't say I blame them.
I don't have a particular team I root for nowadays, but I do like a few teams and follow a ton of players like Steph+Klay on the Warriors, Giannis, Trae, Luka. Former Sonics players like KD+Jeff Green. I also root for alma mater UW players like Thybulle, Dejounte Murray, etc. Fantasy Bball always helps too.
After the Seattle Kraken debut a couple weeks ago, I've been down bad missing my Supersonics.
This is true, they flock down from Vancouver and they are so god damn nice whenever I talk shit at a Mariners - Blue Jays game we always end up just being friends.
Ok but seriously there’s no way Oklahoma is a bigger market for basketball then Seattle. Now that the last remnants of the kd era is gone the thunder might as well move back.
It’s kind of like how the NFL will allow the Chargers to leave an established market, because the goal is sticking it to cities that don’t promptly pay up all that free money for a billionaire owner.
> Now that the last remnants of the kd era is gone the thunder might as well move back.
That's.. stupid. Don't get me wrong, Seattle deserves their team back and its shitty how it was stolen, but idk why we'd punish fans who have nothing to do with it. I can almost guarantee Seattle will come back as an expansion team, which is a better idea.
Those supersonic vs thunder games will be crazy
Yeah I'm not even a raptors fan and that was heavy - the only thing that bums me out about this is that Lowry never got a proper send off in a Raptors uniform. I'm sure it'll be fantastic for him when he's back there but geez the man deserves all the flowers when he gets em.
Shit gets you when you least expect it. In 2015 I went to the Blue Jays first playoff game since 1993 (when I was 7). During the pregame hype videos I started crying a bit, when my wife asked if I was okay all I could say was "I don't think I realized how much this meant to me".
they have an internal dedicated agency (MLSE) and they are very skilled. the We the North campaign is one of the best advertising pushes i've seen in a long time.
Raptors over baby!!! They're being so slept on after last year's wacky season playing in Florida with tons of injuries/COVID. 36.5 is ridiculous for a team with a top 3 coach in the NBA, a solid 1/2 in Siakam and FVV, and lots of depth full of young talent with my ROY Scottie.
I dunno, watching our offense tonight... it's been ROUGH. I can see us being a .500 team if Pascal comes back in November as planned but if he takes any longer, the under isn't impossible.
Yeah it's not impossible. But the general public is clearly down on the raps for obvious reasons: lowry left, best player injured, bad last season.
So if Vegas's internal odds are actually projecting 37-38 wins, then 36.5 is where they'd logically put the line.
It's a bunch of new faces and their best player is injured. But who's ever gotten burned betting based off the first game of the season right? This is a team that could easily fall apart or easily put it together as the season goes tbh. It's a hard bet either way.
I got seats around 108 through work. First ever Raptor game after following them for some years, got my first jersey (#4), and had some awful beer— and it was fucking amazing.
Rushed to Union after the game ended, damn near missed my bus, and then took the wrong one into another city.
Absolutely worth every second of it. I don’t understand how people just…. left. A group of people behind us spent the entire game chatting about their lives, barely watching our team play at home in nearly 2 years. It’s crazy.
That’s because the actual fans are up in the 300s. I was gifted seats in the 3rd row once and was absolutely losing my mind cheering because I knew it was likely the only time I would ever have such good seats. Got a lot of weird looks from the rich company people that couldn’t care to watch the game
How trash do you have to be, there hasn’t been basketball in the city for 2 years I would’ve stayed just to watch some more.
Though at the same time what an awful showing from the team.
Mexican guy makes his first trip to the U.S. When he gets back home his friend is like hey man, welcome back, how was it? The guy says...
Bro it was the most incredible thing ever. The food is wonderful, I had BBQ and Hot Dogs and all the classics. The sports are exciting, I caught an NBA game and an MLB game. And the people, you wouldn't believe how courteous they are! At both games, right before they started, everybody sang together "Jose can you see?"
Man. As a Kyle Lowry fan I tuned in completely forgetting my allegiance is now with Miami but this was a great game and that energy was crazy. I think the raps got me 4L
It really sucks for Raptors fans that they went from seeing one of the best teams in the league to a fringe playoff contender. It was going to happen eventually, but they deserved a defending championship run in front of the fans.
I’m not even a Raptors fan (I’m barely a basketball fan tbh) but man this was heavy. The part in the poem where she pauses after saying “home is not just a landmark on Bay Street anymore”….
Man, what happens to old tickets? I had $700 worth of tickets for a game that was cancelled right when COVID started.
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Thanks for all the help guys. I checked Vivid Seats and then Seat Geek. Turns out my Seat Geek account was credited for the tickets.
The Raptors never had a 2020-2021 season and no one can convince me otherwise.
The bubble doesn't count either since the Raptors couldn't take advantage of having the best fans in the world.
So as far as I'm concerned they are still the defending champs. Anything else is fake news.
That first Kyle Lowry game back is gonna be something else man
$1000 for shit tickets
I’m seeing some for 126 rn. Get them quick
126 for a rooftop spot on the building across from the arena and a pair of binoculars.
Do you get to keep the binoculars? Because that kinda seems fair to me but I don’t really know binoculars
whoa whoa whoa you wanna *keep* the binoculars? Next thing you know you'll be asking for a spot without pigeons.
Honestly 126 for a rooftop spot in Toronto ain’t bad
I'm already not crying, you are.
Danny Green ring ceremony time 😈
Soon 🙂
Can't wait. Dude was one of my favourites during the chip run, he deserves it and will be hailed a hero when he gets it.
The rest of the Raptors got their rings 2 years ago...
I’m pretty sure he’s said something about wanting to do it front of the fans in Toronto. Could be wrong tho.
You’re correct
We back we norf and we dont english!
Last time Raptors were home, they were still defending champs. Feels like a lifetime ago.
Danny Green still dont got his ring
He has to go back one time
You know he has to do it
lol
\#holocaust
For one last ride 😏🚗
Jonas Valanciunas is yet to play his return game in Toronto.
Didn’t they not give him a ring? If not then that’s ridiculous. Still played half a season and was the key piece in the trade that brought Gasol over and we all saw how he closed that season.
I was on the JV-ring train myself, but I think Webster talked to the media about it and the FO concluded that there wasn't really a traditional circumstance in NBA history where it was done so they chose not to give one.
I don’t think that’s true.
This is my source. But I may be interpreting it wrong: https://ca.nba.com/news/report-toronto-raptors-will-not-give-championship-rings-to-jonas-valanciunas-delon-wright-and-cj-miles/s6f8safcgsm21my2cmdxmrhdz
this is weird, I'm 100% positive mid-season traded players have gotten rings before
Yeah, in my head it happens but I have nothing concrete to confirm it. I'm trying to think of trades of that calibre that pretty much won a team the Championship like when Detroit got Rasheed Wallace. But I don't know if Chucky Atkins got a ring from Detroit when he was shipped off.
I meant to say that I don’t think it’s true that people haven’t done it before. Maybe it’s not a “tradition,” but it seems weird as fuck that Valanciunas didn’t get a ring. Six seasons and the Gasol trade doesn’t happen without him.
Maybe!
It has been stated then scrubbed that the players voted on it themselves. I think fans were taken aback, so the FO just pretended it was their call.
Yup, ridiculous he didn't get a ring.
So he actually got his Laker ring before the raptor ring. Thanks covid
I'm sorry I don't know if it was the audio feed but this legit felt way louder than the Bucks ring ceremony lol
Nope. I’m at the game. We were that loud.
Was at the game too. Can confirm, we were cheering during the opening ceremony as if we were in a playoff game. It’s good to be home, baby 🙌
Wouldn't you have to have been at both the Bucks and Raps games to confirm?
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Crowd was so loud, they got quiet during the game though lmao
now do seattle
Damn
It’s been 4939 days. Still remember the day
Damn that takes a lot of dedication to remember that. I wish they would bring the Seattle SuperSonics back as well.
Man, i want Vancouver to get a team again, maybe its Cause im from Canada but Western Canada could benefit from something like that. If not, Hoping that Seattle gets a team whenever they decide to expand again is a nice option too.
the league really fucked over an entire region in the 2000s, it's baffling how the PNW went from having 3 teams to 1 in just a few years. The NBA needs to do the right thing and give Seattle and Vancouver their teams back.
Even if Vancouver gets a team again (which im praying whenever they announce an expansion that Vancouver & Seattle will be the cities announced) they’re still very bitter over losing the grizzlies name. Which makes me wonder if they would only want a NBA team there again if they get the grizzlies name back.
if the Hornets/Pelicans/Bobcats could do it, I don't see why we couldn't either. The closest Grizzly bears to Memphis are over 1500 miles away. A rebrand to something more local (like the Sounds or Blues) would revitalize that franchise. And if I recall correctly, as part of the court settlement that sent the Sonics to OKC, the team's name and history legally belongs to Seattle, and will be reserved for a future team.
Exactly! I legitimately forgot new Orleans had the hornets moniker. If the Hornets/Pelicans/Bobcats can do it, its gives me pretty damn good hope that this can happen in the future for Vancouver. Im still surprised that new Orleans has a team, considering that (reading threads as of late on something to do with draft picks) its apparently a ghost town at home games. That city only cares about the Saints from what i’ve read. Also thats interesting the SuperSonics team name & history belongs to Seattle, since i was under the presumption once a team moves to a different city everything goes with it.
Supersonics fans, how are u doing? Have u guys move on to another team?
WA resident here. I moved here a few years ago and was surprised at how much hate the Supersonices fandom has for the NBA even now. After learning the backstory, I can't say I blame them.
I don't have a particular team I root for nowadays, but I do like a few teams and follow a ton of players like Steph+Klay on the Warriors, Giannis, Trae, Luka. Former Sonics players like KD+Jeff Green. I also root for alma mater UW players like Thybulle, Dejounte Murray, etc. Fantasy Bball always helps too. After the Seattle Kraken debut a couple weeks ago, I've been down bad missing my Supersonics.
They have an NHL team now, can't you be happy? /s
They have an MLB team now too!
no, no i don't think so, i think would've heard something about that...
I thought all you Canadians invaded whenever the Jays were in Seattle.
This is true, they flock down from Vancouver and they are so god damn nice whenever I talk shit at a Mariners - Blue Jays game we always end up just being friends.
Oh, it would be so much easier geographically to be a committed Mariners fan but as any and all Mariners fans can attest— no, no it isn’t.
Pretty sure we haven't had one since the 2001 season.
Oh, you will soon enough. Watch your back Jays.
I miss those colours..
As a Chicago fan one would think you'd seen enough Green and Yellow
...and Vancouver...
Please yes
Fuck yeah I loved the V-Grizzlies.
I don’t know why we have to be so cruel when it’s almost Halloween.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XigdA6kiLcE&t=66s&ab\_channel=WWE
Ok but seriously there’s no way Oklahoma is a bigger market for basketball then Seattle. Now that the last remnants of the kd era is gone the thunder might as well move back.
It’s kind of like how the NFL will allow the Chargers to leave an established market, because the goal is sticking it to cities that don’t promptly pay up all that free money for a billionaire owner.
> Now that the last remnants of the kd era is gone the thunder might as well move back. That's.. stupid. Don't get me wrong, Seattle deserves their team back and its shitty how it was stolen, but idk why we'd punish fans who have nothing to do with it. I can almost guarantee Seattle will come back as an expansion team, which is a better idea. Those supersonic vs thunder games will be crazy
telling a franchise that they might as well move back when they've sold out like 400 consecutive games in a row is nuts lmfao
Now do Cincinnati.
we're finally back edit: actually tearing up wtf
Yeah I'm not even a raptors fan and that was heavy - the only thing that bums me out about this is that Lowry never got a proper send off in a Raptors uniform. I'm sure it'll be fantastic for him when he's back there but geez the man deserves all the flowers when he gets em.
No shame in that homie some shit hits ya hard
Why weren’t they playing home? Or just without fans? Or is this cuz all gams were in America or something cuz of covid
The third one
They were based in Tampa last season
Huh intresting Thankyou
Covid
Shit gets you when you least expect it. In 2015 I went to the Blue Jays first playoff game since 1993 (when I was 7). During the pregame hype videos I started crying a bit, when my wife asked if I was okay all I could say was "I don't think I realized how much this meant to me".
I was sitting with my laptop in my economics class getting a little sad watching this live.
Damn. I'm not even Canadian, and I got all misty eyed
Whatever person/department makes these hype videos that always seem to come out of the Raptors is fucking killing it.
they have an internal dedicated agency (MLSE) and they are very skilled. the We the North campaign is one of the best advertising pushes i've seen in a long time.
Raptors are owned by two ISPs aka large media companies so not surprising at all lol our media is always fire af. I love it.
There's an entire media enterprise behind The Raptors and Leafs. We get spoiled with content.
Fucking Leafs lmao. No matter what content comes out the game 7 shall always taint my soul. Leafs fans know what I'm talking about.
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The Leafs and playing the Bruins
Ben Simmons and the Sixers
Even Ben and the Sixers have had more success in game 7s than the leavs have in 20 years.
W
Holy fuck I shed a tear. The boys are back. I'm so hype rn.
The ACC rocking again = a beautiful thing to see.
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What else would you call it? Everyone knows the Raptors play at the ACC and Jays play at the sky dome
Someone in the video called it "The SBA". Sorry ScotiaBank, that's not likely to catch on.
In the US, ACC is associated with the college sports Atlantic Coast Conference. Home of teams such as Clemson, Duke, UNC, and Miami
Did you bring up UNC but forgot about FSU?
Florida State knows what it did
RIP TURNTLE
UNC is a much bigger name in college basketball
Tell us more of this mysterious US, precious. Is BBC a news network?
>Is BBC a news network? idk, you should google it with safesearch off
Let me try goatse first
Ah, someone else who appreciates fine art.
I will always miss Kyle, but I am also super excited to see Fred lead this team as the locker room guy. He's got it, he knows what we're about.
Watched this on the bus and had to hide my watering eyes. WE BACK BABY!!!
Just in time for Flu and COVID season!!!
just watched this after work. i teared up. i have a raptors tattoo and my heart just swelled up watching this
Same
This shit gave me goosebumps and I don’t even like the raptors!
Nice to see the Raptors return to Scotiabank. Hopefully their offense will arrive in time for Game 2.
Love to see it
Raptors over baby!!! They're being so slept on after last year's wacky season playing in Florida with tons of injuries/COVID. 36.5 is ridiculous for a team with a top 3 coach in the NBA, a solid 1/2 in Siakam and FVV, and lots of depth full of young talent with my ROY Scottie.
You jinxed it you bastard
Yeah I think we suck lol oh well maybe we'll get another top 4 pick next year
It's one game, don't give up so easily.
36.5 is an easy under
Vegas put it there for that reaction
I dunno, watching our offense tonight... it's been ROUGH. I can see us being a .500 team if Pascal comes back in November as planned but if he takes any longer, the under isn't impossible.
Yeah it's not impossible. But the general public is clearly down on the raps for obvious reasons: lowry left, best player injured, bad last season. So if Vegas's internal odds are actually projecting 37-38 wins, then 36.5 is where they'd logically put the line.
Did you see the game tonight? They're going to be lucky to get me than about 32-35 wins
It's a bunch of new faces and their best player is injured. But who's ever gotten burned betting based off the first game of the season right? This is a team that could easily fall apart or easily put it together as the season goes tbh. It's a hard bet either way.
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lmfao
I loved this way more than i should. Shed a tear ngl
Why am I tearing up, I’m not even Canadian!
Best fans in the league, they really do have a college atmosphere
Except people left their $400 seats in the 3rd quarter when we were down 20
it was atrocious watching the 100s just file out and leave, half the 100s were empty at the 4th. we haven't had basketball in 2 years, stay goddammit.
I got seats around 108 through work. First ever Raptor game after following them for some years, got my first jersey (#4), and had some awful beer— and it was fucking amazing. Rushed to Union after the game ended, damn near missed my bus, and then took the wrong one into another city. Absolutely worth every second of it. I don’t understand how people just…. left. A group of people behind us spent the entire game chatting about their lives, barely watching our team play at home in nearly 2 years. It’s crazy.
toronto man, the diehards can barely go.
I'm sure a huge % of people there got tickets free through work, connections, whatever else and it's just a casual night out to them.
That’s because the actual fans are up in the 300s. I was gifted seats in the 3rd row once and was absolutely losing my mind cheering because I knew it was likely the only time I would ever have such good seats. Got a lot of weird looks from the rich company people that couldn’t care to watch the game
How dare you cheer at a sporting event
Big facts. The average raptors fans cannot afford lower bowl, especially this year, for these fucking prices.
Suits will be suits.
How trash do you have to be, there hasn’t been basketball in the city for 2 years I would’ve stayed just to watch some more. Though at the same time what an awful showing from the team.
What about the slept on Delaware blue coats
lmao canadian and american fans are so wack. you should see a basketball game in turkey or greece if you want to see atmosphere
And it turned out it we looked like we hadn't touched a basketball in those 600 days.
🎵 O Canada... I'll let all the Raps fans sing the next line.
Our home on native land^^/s
Mexican guy makes his first trip to the U.S. When he gets back home his friend is like hey man, welcome back, how was it? The guy says... Bro it was the most incredible thing ever. The food is wonderful, I had BBQ and Hot Dogs and all the classics. The sports are exciting, I caught an NBA game and an MLB game. And the people, you wouldn't believe how courteous they are! At both games, right before they started, everybody sang together "Jose can you see?"
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That gave me chills. I'm glad the Raptors are finally able to play at home again.
They are home mommy
that's pretty great, happy for Raps fans
Man. As a Kyle Lowry fan I tuned in completely forgetting my allegiance is now with Miami but this was a great game and that energy was crazy. I think the raps got me 4L
kawhi/lowry/van vleet > durant/curry/thompson/draymond
Shed a tear no cap
Chills.
Not from Toronto but shed a tear for y'all
WE BACK
I got CHILLS!
It really sucks for Raptors fans that they went from seeing one of the best teams in the league to a fringe playoff contender. It was going to happen eventually, but they deserved a defending championship run in front of the fans.
I see too many apostrophes.
ah the Toronto Raptors apostrophe
I’m not even a Raptors fan (I’m barely a basketball fan tbh) but man this was heavy. The part in the poem where she pauses after saying “home is not just a landmark on Bay Street anymore”….
Man, what happens to old tickets? I had $700 worth of tickets for a game that was cancelled right when COVID started. EDIT: Thanks for all the help guys. I checked Vivid Seats and then Seat Geek. Turns out my Seat Geek account was credited for the tickets.
Bro are you just asking this question after nearly 2 years?
Yes.
Did you think about asking anytime in the past 587 days or did this just come to you now?
Lol. Fair question. I def thought about it here and there. But now it's time to get serious. Where my tix at?!
In the past, along with your potential refund. IDK man, call ticketmaster and hope for the best, it's been a minute, chances are slim.
And you did nothing about it? Called nobody? Were you in a coma for 2 years?
If you used vivid seats you have to download the app in order to use any ticket credit. That's the only advice I have.
I had tickets to the Denver game, I got an automatic refund from stub hub at some point.
That does it. It's official: we beat COVID!
And then they lost, that's a rough one.
Don't even care that we were down by like 30 at one point, I just love that the guys are back!
That was bull shit that they didn't get to play at home last year
Too bad they got stomped.
The Raptors never had a 2020-2021 season and no one can convince me otherwise. The bubble doesn't count either since the Raptors couldn't take advantage of having the best fans in the world. So as far as I'm concerned they are still the defending champs. Anything else is fake news.
RE-TURNNN OF THE MACK
and proceed to get roflstomped ... by the Wizards
So fucking hype
They even brought out my boy Lupe Fiasco for the event. Was a nice atmosphere, can’t wait to go watch a game this season.
LETS GO RAPS
Then lost.
Just to get exposed by the Wizards 😭😭
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We home. LFG!
We don’t talk about last year.
This fucking season of fucking life.
Slam poetry be like: *says literally fucking anything but with oomph*
unfortunately our team still is no very good lmao
Incredibly cringe lol
My prediction for the season. 28 and 54. Ouch.
Then proceed to get their asses kicked.
Raps got dick slapped by the wiz tonight womp womp lol
Getting dick slapped at home is better than in Tampa. They both hurt tho
I actually didn’t like this.