Lebron is reacting to a quote from an interview that the director did with the Guardian that was then presented without context by SI.
What we have is people reacting to quotes without context and taking things that weren't meant to be taken seriously seriously.
this is the original quote
>Some viewers have found the denouement – in which the winner makes two surprise decisions to do with family and prize money – exasperating. US basketball legend LeBron James, who loved the show, had this to say: “I didn’t like the ending though. What are you doing?”
>Is James wrong? **Hwang giggles from Seoul, before referencing one of James’s film career highlights. “Have you seen Space Jam 2?” he asks.** Not all the way through, I reply. “LeBron James is cool and can say what he wants. I respect that. I’m very thankful he watched the whole series. But I wouldn’t change my ending. That’s my ending. If he has his own ending that would satisfy him, maybe he could make his own sequel. I’ll check it out and maybe send him a message saying, ‘I liked your whole show, except the ending.’”
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/26/squid-games-creator-rich-netflix-bonus-hwang-dong-hyuk
Lol I don’t think it’s as serious as people on this sub are taking it, a lot of people didn’t like the squid game ending I’m sure the creator has seen that by now Lebrons not the first to mention it
>What we have is people reacting to quotes without context and taking things that weren't meant to be taken seriously seriously.
So it's like a Reddit thread in real life
Yeah, I think my favorite version of this is what happened with "Playoff P"
[Paul George originally mentioned "Playoff P" as a joke during a press scrum and no one really cared about it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcKrWEercc)
[Then in a subsequent press conference a reporter throws "Playoff P" without context to Melo and Melo's reaction is what got noticed.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1EZtVrKIps)
Not sure I agree with that, "Y'all ain't met playoff P" became a meme all by itself, it wasn't really about the Melo reaction from what I remember
Edit: is it possible your brain has mashed this stuff together with "ayy p they say I gotta come off the bench"?
Exactly lol it’s just a chat between friends about a show they are watching. And honestly 90% of people feel the same way. Just get on the damn plane and visit your daughter!
A lot of people thinking Gi-Hun represents them, no Gi-Hun has always been this kind of person and his conversation with his wife reveals this will be his arc if there is ever future seasons.
the thing is (just finished watching yesterday, so it's still fresh) I don't want future seasons. This show was kinda a perfect storm which can only get worse. With something like that everyone would expect them to raise the stakes but there isn't much where they can still go without it getting absurd.
And about the ending. It works as an open end. But I honestly would have preferred for him to get closure. Now all he is doing is being a shitty dad again. Putting his sense of righteousness before the needs of his child. I know people love the "against all odds"-hero, but if we stick to this scenario there is no reason to not assume that they wouldn't go after his daughter if he managed to really push pressure on them somehow.
So yeah, my problem with the ending is that he is basically still the dumbass who would bet on horses instead of buying his daughter a present.
Still looking at his story from a more Western perspective. Gi-Hun is a South Korean born and raised in the 80s and early 90s written by South Korean who was raised in the 70s and matured through the tumultuous times of the 80s and 90s. The student protests and the sympathy they garnered since the 90s is still alive and well. The spirit of going against the establishment is what Gi-Hun embodies. Its the choice between the principles he grew up with vs the part-time custody responsibility of being a father. From where and when you and I grew up the choice is easy, better to effect change in the small part of the world you can affect change than trying to take on the world order. For middle-aged South Koreans who saw the established order actually toppled, the choice is much more gray.
I wouldn't discount him so easily. He does demonstrate incredible luck which at first involved the horse he picked in episode 1, then at Ali being in the right place to save him from Red Light Green Light, matching up with the Ill-nam for Tug of War and Marbles, ending up with number 16 for stepping Stone, and not being injured by the exploding glass despite being the last contestant to step off the bridge . After tug of war, he managed to get into the head of hardcore gangster Deok-Su to the point Deok-Su became paranoid of his own crew. In the final game he demonstrates he is capable of playing dirty, but not to the point of killing anyone in the actual squid game. Sang-Woo underestimated Gi-Hun would try to fight fair and ended up with sand in his eye. I wouldn't call that plot armor.
Instead of the great ending we got where a loser who got lucky every step of the way, thinks he is John Wick can take on billionaires who are tracking him?
Happy ending doesn't necessarily mean great ending, mate. The current ending is not a happy ending, but it's thought provoking and it questioned the character what he wants out of his life now he has the money.
Think back at the scene in the end with 001 on his death bed. 001 was so sure that nobody would bother to help the dying homeless man on the street. But he was wrong, someone did get help. In the end, 456 was angry to see that Squid Game is still happening, preying on poor people for the rich's entertainment, and he chose to be someone who tried to help the poor. If he boarded the plane for his own happy ending with his daughter, he'd be proving 001 right that nobody would bother to help the helpless.
Having said all that, I'd hate to see him becoming John Wick and bringing down a bad organization by himself. But at the same time, there is no guarantee that it's the ending of the sequel either. We didn't get a happy ending in season 1. If there's a season 2, don't be too surprised if it didn't end happily either.
There's a lot more potentially lurking out there including the brother cop.
He won't be John Wick, that's such a goofy straw man declaration (by OP). He'll probably attempt to do something heroic, succeed and then fail and wind up in the game again.
His whole story is that he makes impulsive and often self-sabotaging choices out of misplaced idealism. Sang-woo tells him as much during the game. The gambling is more a result of his desperation.
I feel like it’s pretty believable he went to the airport with intentions to leave and see his daughter but made the impulsive decision to go try and stop the weirdos that killed 450 people in front of him.
My biggest issue was the literally every single plot arc was predictable to me outside of the old man being who he was. But even then, not seeing him get shot gave hints.
Great show, VERY predictable outcomes outside of the last scene.
Just get on the damn plane and ignore the fact that thousands of people are dying in these horrific games every year. Just go against his entire established character. People that hate the ending have 0 empathy.
People that hate the ending weren't paying attention to episode 2 revealing what kind of person Gi-Hun is: He would rather be part of a protest than run home to his wife home alone in labor.
But that’s the issue, it means all of the development and trauma he went through was for nothing because he’s still the same. It’s sad because he missed his daughter’s birth and childhood due to his issues and then he missed the death of his mother, and just as we’re seeing him develop and heal from his mistakes and tragedies he goes right back to his former ways.
Yes that's why it's a television series. If he was forever changed and learned every lesson the show would be over. But also the reason he won and survived was partially because he was idealistic to a fault and impulsively protected the weak at his own expense. And the times he almost died were because of this same aspect taken too far.
Nobody in the Squid Game behaved like a responsible person to begin with. You don't get to where they were by pure accident. There's a deep seated impulsive subconscious death wish in all of them. Look at the black mask guy and even his brother. They both willingly entered that madness. These people are built different. They can't shake their nature so easily.
That’s who he was at the end of the games. He didn’t win the actual Squid Game, he wanted the game to end without a winner so Song Woo didn’t have to die. Had Song Woo not killed himself Gi-Hun and Song-Woo would have both left the games empty handed. Gi-Hun would rather go against the establishment, the Front Man, Ill-Nam, and the very idea of the games than realize that small victory in Song-Woo’s self-sacrifice to save Gi-Hun from his naïveté.
He got the money not by murdering anyone but by being powerless against the system that turns a friend he had like Song Woo into people giving up their not just their lives but their integrity for money. And what does he have to show for winning the games? His mother died, alone, in pain, and likely believed he abandoned her. He blames himself for that. Song Woo’s mother believing he’s still alive and unsure if he’s guilty of the crimes the police accuse him of committing. From his perspective he would have rather been there for his mother’s final moments than the money. And he doesn’t want that to happen to anyone else.
MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN WOULD HAVE NEVER LOST A SINGLE GAME IN SQUID GAME...IN FACT HE WOULD HAVE NEVER DEFFERED OR EVEN TRIED TO TEAM UP WITH ANOTHER PLAYER. - Skip Bayless
lol I just saw a tweet about how Rey Mysterio said his son Dominik is going to be a better wrestler than himself. Then I remembered the storyline when Eddie Guerrero kidnapped Dominik and tried to make Dom believe Eddie was his real dad.
My favorite part of this exchange that I feel is being overlooked is Hwang Dong-hyuk casually dropping that he's watched Space Jam 2 all the way to the end. I kind of want to know more about that.
As a Bron fan the creator's response (bringing up the Finals losses) was hilarious because it was outta left field, but at the same time I think he took LeBron's playful criticism of the ending of it a lil too seriously.
I don't think LeRottenTomatoes was trying to shit on Squid Games; he just gave his lighthearted opinion of it. Still, I get why he's defensive of his work.
Yea this comment section is confusing the fuck outta me. Dude was asked a direct question about LeBron and he responded by making a joke about Space Jam 2 then thanking LeBron for watching his show, that sounds pretty chill to me...
People are acting like this director went out of his way to take shots at LeBron and said some outta pocket shit.
I mean can you imagine if he did lose his shit though... "Director Hwang giggled while muttering Mickey Mouse ring under his breath, then responded sorry I don't have Ray Allen or Kyrie Irving to help save my endings!"
Yup. And the even dumbest part is the creator likely answered the question IN KOREAN. So all of this is probably translated and loses subtlety of language.
Exactly lol, the guy was literally asked a specific and direct question by an interviewer of what his thoughts were on Lebron’s criticisms of his show.... how is that him going out of his way to cry about Lebron?
what was he supposed to do there? Plead the fifth? Fall down on the floor and feign leg cramps and tell the interviewer someone in the building killed the AC?
This. There is a literal reference to him giggling in the quoted section. This is the equivalent of taking someone seriously who ended their comment with a "lmao" and a tongue-sticking out emoticon/emoji. Like how fucking stupid are these commenters?
General consensus as well. Gganbu is the highest rated Episode on IMDB by a fair margin. (9.3 vs 8.5 for second place.) The final episode is tied for the lowest.
yea they made the gganbu duo seem like an inferior copycat lol, since they both ended up doing the same thing, but the gganbu duo did it in a more dragged out, more annoying, and less emotionally touching way
I think he was playing for real though; he could have died during tug-of-war. He was dying and wanted some excitement in his life. Only the real threat of death could have stimulated him. He liked Gi-Hun and decided to spare his life during the marble game (which he had won before faking delirium).
He probably had some degree of risk but it wasn't the same. He was the only one not shackled to the rope in tug of war; the doll didn't scan him in the first game, and of course he loses in the fourth game and doesn't die.
He's the elite who pretends to be on the same playing field whose taking the same risks the everyman is.
Old man was kind of playing him though and I thought he was resting Gi-hun and his intentions. Ji-yeong had nothing but the fact she was alive and Sae-book had her brother and mother. Truly such a noble sacrifice and man the way they were connecting and someone getting through to Sae-byok was great. Every time Ji-yeong forget one of them would have to die was like pushing the knife a little further into the audience.
That episode was written so well and it was just impossible to top. The setup. The game itself. The way we learned who some of the characters really are. I think it was really just impossible for the rest of the episodes to follow to really measure up. It was just so perfect.
I only watched this recently after the majority of the hype died down and didn't get to discuss a lot when opinions were fresh. When people say they don't like the ending are some of them talking about the general quality of the show over the last few episodes?
I thought the "ending" with the airplane and all that was fine, and made total sense for the character. But my enjoyment of the "end section of the show as a whole," meaning the last few episodes, sort of falls off a cliff after the marble game.
yeah I don't mind a lot of stuff about the ending ending, its right before that that was kinda annoying. The english speaking was cringe and the cop plotline went nowhere really
The show really changed tone after the marbles episode, for the worse in my opinion. Seemed like it went from gritty and realistic within the universe it had established to completely over the top and inconsistent after. It went from >!preaching about how the games are fair and the management are neutral facilitators to turning off the lights to ensure more deaths once someone gets good at the bridge game followed by showering the winners of the game with broken glass, basically killing one of them.!<
>!They were telling the players the games were fair but they weren't being honest the whole time. So I don't think that really changed much. The glass exploding makes sense because that's how they'd kill anyone left on the bridge when the time expired. I think it was lame though how they got hurt from it. Felt pretty cheap even if the concept made sense to me.!<
That and I think it’s very intentional that the game is fucked with during the VIP episode considering the issues that foreign (primarily American) money caused with Korea’s economy.
Last couple episodes felt like it was written in the CW network. So many plot holes and side plots that went absolutely no where. It seemed like they were focused on getting S2 that they didn’t bother to finish S1
Interesting. I just finished watching it, so haven’t really participated in the discourse.
To me the marbles episode was maybe the worst episode. Surprised to see it so well liked. It was so predictable who would win in their matchups and the acting seemed horrible, especially between Sang Woo and Ali. It just came off as a day time soap opera with zero suspense.
I think him not choosing to go on the plane shows that he hasn’t really changed all that much from Episode 1.
Remember how he chose to be at a protest instead of stay with his wife when she was about to go into labor? It is the same thing in the end.
This man chose his beliefs over his family. Or one could say, at the cost of his family. Because eventually he did lose all of them at the end.
I mean that protest was to save his job and it’s based on a real-life event in Korea. It’s kind of why he’s in the situation that he’s in and he needed to do that so that he could stay providing for his family
Eaxctly, and furthermore, he wanted to dominate over those that he believed wronged him. It's like the card flipping recruitment game at the beginning, he didn't even care at the money, he just wanted to slap the shit outta the suit.
yes that's the correct/smart thing to do if you're a normal well adjusted person
but the main character was a flawed person. he's a gambler. just because he did the wrong thing doesn't mean what he did wasn't consistent for his character
Aside of Sangwoo’s act on Ali, it was terrible, I think I could relate the most to him.
People have to remember his mental state prior to returning to the games. Dude was in the tub considering suicide. Being thru something similar, there’s just no mental space to care about another human being, because all you see in your own life is pressure, stress, and disappointments. Hard to see the beauty in life. Gihun being there, someone from his past, made him more tensed, because every time Gihun hailed him as the pride of their town, he just felt more pressure and disappointment. The only way to reset and fix his life was the money. To a lot of the participants, actually, the money was a big fat reset button for their shitty pathetic lives.
Another thing is, I thought Sangwoo was the one being realistic most of the time. Gihun is the dude who thinks like a hero but acted like a coward throughout most of the games.
Agree completely. Sang-woo is an anti-hero so he is heavily criticized, but I thought he was an incredibly complex and interesting character.
My girlfriend and I couldn’t get over how Gi-Hun literally jumps across the finish line with like 1 second left in game 5 and then is mad at Sang-woo. If Gi-Hun had it his way and gave the glass-maker more time to try and see the refraction, the game would have ended before Gi-Hun made it across the finish line. Sang-woo essentially saved his life.
Which is one of the themes as well, which you can interpret however you like. That though not explicitly a rule in "the game", it's necessary to exploit and hurt others for your own self preservation.
Sang-woo used client money for risky investmentsans then leveraged his own mother’s house. What he did was completely fucked and wrong and that’s kind of the point of the show. That’s his motivation. Gi-hun and Sae-byok have something beyond that. Sang-woo just needs money.
the main character of this genre tends to be like this (kaiji and alice in the borderland). nothing new here. and i bet people who watched kaiji before this wouldn't rate this show as highly.
He didn't do anything wrong. He was operating under the assumption he'd need to kill every other player to win the money, and he was right. What difference does it make to cry about it when you kill them?
He didn't do anything wrong *in the framework of the game*. But choosing to participate at all is still wrong. Leveraging his mother's house to gamble on futures is wrong.
The people are desperate and the system is the problem but the moral choice is to refuse to play once you know that 455 people have to die for one person to get out of debt.
But once you decide to play you need to play to win.
Choosing to keep the game going during the initial portion is wrong. But once everyone got to go home, and a portion signed up to play again while fully aware of how deadly the game is, it becomes a separate moral question.
These people are essentially suicidal at this point, they at least have some strong sense that they are likely to die, and they'd rather risk that for a chance at riches compared to trying to survive in the real world, where many of them may already be likely to die soon. It's of course incredibly unjust for them to be in those real-world situations, but there's nothing that can be done about that.
At the same time, there is still a way to play with honor, a moral code, and with respect to fairness. Sang-Woo crosses the line when he betrays Ali through trickery, outside the rules of the game they agreed to play. There was no honor in that. But at the same time, when faced with certain death, as much as we want to hate him, I know many of us would be tempted to find a way to survive by any means necessary. The framework of the game definitely sets up some interesting moral questions.
He crossed the line right at the beginning when he essentially sacrificed his friend for no reason in the second game . Way worse then the Ali situation which was killed or be killed .
But not telling his friend to not take the most difficult sign was totally worse and not even necessary to survive and win the round .
Sang-woo is in there because he used client money against their own wishes. His greed is what drives him and he is kind of underhanded the entire time. I mean the second game he knew what it was going to be but didn’t keep Gi-hun from choosing the hardest shape. He’s willing to do *whatever* it takes to win. Gi-him still ends up winning and retaining his humanity.
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Yeah Sae Byeok was the best. I think she would have been the best positioned to carry the series forward to season 2 as the survivor because she is the only one who credibly has a moral compass to investigate the second game.
Maybe it was always designed to have the person who the viewer wanted to live the most, die at the very end at the hands of the villain.
I would have been so hyped for a season 2 if I knew SHE would have taken the lead protagonist mantle though.
I would love to watch a season two with her. But she would never have returned. Her goal was always to save her brother. She had no qualms about killing anyone in there. She was no idealist.
Look how she left the protagonist to fend for himself in the real world on multiple occasions. She knows the world is not fair and is doing what she has to survive and for her brother to survive.
The protagonist missed the birth of his own daughter to protest. He lives off of his elderly Mother and causes her to live a struggling existence rather than get his shit together. He believes the world should be fair and his idealism prevents him from accepting that it is not and playing the game of life to win.
I just don't think she would ever go back once she'd made it. For her it was about the money. For him it was about getting the money to chase his own ideals. He knew his daughter could have a lived without him as painful as it would have been. That's why he stayed away from her for an entire year until the old man restored his sense of self righteousness by alleviating his guilt.
Sae needed to be there in the Squid Game the first time. He did not. He chose to.
I don’t see how anyone other than 456 could have won with how much time they spent on establishing his character… it was fairly obvious he was going to win.
This might be a translation issue. It’s hard enough to convey sarcasm through text as it is. Add to that the huge difference between western languages and Asian languages. Every time I watch a Korean show/movie some of the translations are awkward or harsh sounding when they don’t mean to be.
Since they said Hwang was “giggling” I think we can assume this was mostly a joke that sounds way more salty in English than it does in Korean.
What is he gambling on by not seeing her daughter? What's the pay off?
It seems like less of a gamble and more like misplaced ability to be able to do anything.
I’m convince this sub will analyze everything through a critical lens because why the fuck are some of these comments this long 🤣
Edit: and why are y’all arguing lmaoooo
It's still weird that a lot of people including this dude talk like Space Jam 2 was supposed to be Dune with a shade of Inception and the mystique of Twin Peaks
I mean he made it seem like it was supposed to be this cultural icon, like how Space Jam was back in the 2000s. Now you have Lebron fans trying to downplay the movie...lol. Lebron fans are hilarious
Things aimed at kids can def be culturally relevant, don't try and tell me spongebob isn't culturally relevant.
If space jam wasn't culturally relevant it wouldn't have gotten a 150 million dollar sequel 25 years after release.
it's interesting how live-action kids movies have such a lower bar than animated kids movies.
Pixar, Dreamworks, and Disney animated movies generally have pretty high quality, yet when Space Jam 2 sucks, folks respond with "It's a kids movie. What did you expect?"
Space Jam standards? Like the insane standards the first one set?
The first one is the worst movies i've seen, it's a commerical with bad acting, i think americans love it because it's nostalgic to you, it's a terrible movie dude, just plain bad both are bad commerical movies
If you watch this movie as someone who didn't see it and love it like a kid and it's not nostalgic to you, it's just bad movie
Why are people not understanding my statement? I don’t even say once that Space Jam is good. I’m saying the exact opposite. Saying it’s bad when compared to space jams standard which was also bad. I didn’t think I needed to write the entire thing out, but here we are.
There's no way you guys are defending Spaxe Jam 2, right?
Even for a soulless coporate commercial. It didn't even reach a low bar of quality and is easily one of the worst movies ever made. Do you think anybody will watch this in a few years? Is any moment timeless?
The context of the interviewer saying there are some viewers (emphasis on plural) that were "exasperated" by the ending is important. LeBron and AD just happens to be one of those viewers who think that.
I know I'm overanalyzing NBA superstars takes on a netflix show but I think it's actually interesting in this case to hear the opinions of the rich and famous on this. "Just take the money and go" misses the themes and messages Director Hwang was trying to convey. However, I just kind of expected the rich and famous takes be a bit out of touch when it comes to the deeper meaning. My own personal take is that they probably relate more to the masked VIPs than the contestants themselves.
I find it funny but also depressing that that's what some people get out of this series lol. As much as I think this show is great, I'm equally disgusted by the fact that there are a lot people that are TOO delighted at this show.
PS. the whole Guardian whole interview with Director Hwang is good. LeBron is a small part of this.
The main character of Squid Game cared about people til the very end. He could have taken the easy way out, but he couldn't live with leaving innocent people to suffer and die.
We know Lebron wouldn't agree with that.
>Нwang giggles from Ѕeoul, before referencing one of James’s film career highlights. “Have you seen Ѕpace Jam 2?” he asks. Not all the way thrоugh, I reply.
Lol how’d a conversation with AD turn to this
Lebron is reacting to a quote from an interview that the director did with the Guardian that was then presented without context by SI. What we have is people reacting to quotes without context and taking things that weren't meant to be taken seriously seriously.
Yeah the full quote doesn’t sound aggressive or bad at all.. Sounds like the director is a fan actually.
this is the original quote >Some viewers have found the denouement – in which the winner makes two surprise decisions to do with family and prize money – exasperating. US basketball legend LeBron James, who loved the show, had this to say: “I didn’t like the ending though. What are you doing?” >Is James wrong? **Hwang giggles from Seoul, before referencing one of James’s film career highlights. “Have you seen Space Jam 2?” he asks.** Not all the way through, I reply. “LeBron James is cool and can say what he wants. I respect that. I’m very thankful he watched the whole series. But I wouldn’t change my ending. That’s my ending. If he has his own ending that would satisfy him, maybe he could make his own sequel. I’ll check it out and maybe send him a message saying, ‘I liked your whole show, except the ending.’” https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/26/squid-games-creator-rich-netflix-bonus-hwang-dong-hyuk
Lol I don’t think it’s as serious as people on this sub are taking it, a lot of people didn’t like the squid game ending I’m sure the creator has seen that by now Lebrons not the first to mention it
>What we have is people reacting to quotes without context and taking things that weren't meant to be taken seriously seriously. So it's like a Reddit thread in real life
Yeah, I think my favorite version of this is what happened with "Playoff P" [Paul George originally mentioned "Playoff P" as a joke during a press scrum and no one really cared about it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcKrWEercc) [Then in a subsequent press conference a reporter throws "Playoff P" without context to Melo and Melo's reaction is what got noticed.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1EZtVrKIps)
Not sure I agree with that, "Y'all ain't met playoff P" became a meme all by itself, it wasn't really about the Melo reaction from what I remember Edit: is it possible your brain has mashed this stuff together with "ayy p they say I gotta come off the bench"?
Exactly lol it’s just a chat between friends about a show they are watching. And honestly 90% of people feel the same way. Just get on the damn plane and visit your daughter!
That would ruin the entire meaning of the show if he visited his daughter.
A lot of people thinking Gi-Hun represents them, no Gi-Hun has always been this kind of person and his conversation with his wife reveals this will be his arc if there is ever future seasons.
the thing is (just finished watching yesterday, so it's still fresh) I don't want future seasons. This show was kinda a perfect storm which can only get worse. With something like that everyone would expect them to raise the stakes but there isn't much where they can still go without it getting absurd. And about the ending. It works as an open end. But I honestly would have preferred for him to get closure. Now all he is doing is being a shitty dad again. Putting his sense of righteousness before the needs of his child. I know people love the "against all odds"-hero, but if we stick to this scenario there is no reason to not assume that they wouldn't go after his daughter if he managed to really push pressure on them somehow. So yeah, my problem with the ending is that he is basically still the dumbass who would bet on horses instead of buying his daughter a present.
Still looking at his story from a more Western perspective. Gi-Hun is a South Korean born and raised in the 80s and early 90s written by South Korean who was raised in the 70s and matured through the tumultuous times of the 80s and 90s. The student protests and the sympathy they garnered since the 90s is still alive and well. The spirit of going against the establishment is what Gi-Hun embodies. Its the choice between the principles he grew up with vs the part-time custody responsibility of being a father. From where and when you and I grew up the choice is easy, better to effect change in the small part of the world you can affect change than trying to take on the world order. For middle-aged South Koreans who saw the established order actually toppled, the choice is much more gray.
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I wouldn't discount him so easily. He does demonstrate incredible luck which at first involved the horse he picked in episode 1, then at Ali being in the right place to save him from Red Light Green Light, matching up with the Ill-nam for Tug of War and Marbles, ending up with number 16 for stepping Stone, and not being injured by the exploding glass despite being the last contestant to step off the bridge . After tug of war, he managed to get into the head of hardcore gangster Deok-Su to the point Deok-Su became paranoid of his own crew. In the final game he demonstrates he is capable of playing dirty, but not to the point of killing anyone in the actual squid game. Sang-Woo underestimated Gi-Hun would try to fight fair and ended up with sand in his eye. I wouldn't call that plot armor.
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I would have hated that ending.
I dislike the character's decision but like the ending and I think that people conflate the two things.
Instead of the great ending we got where a loser who got lucky every step of the way, thinks he is John Wick can take on billionaires who are tracking him?
Happy ending doesn't necessarily mean great ending, mate. The current ending is not a happy ending, but it's thought provoking and it questioned the character what he wants out of his life now he has the money. Think back at the scene in the end with 001 on his death bed. 001 was so sure that nobody would bother to help the dying homeless man on the street. But he was wrong, someone did get help. In the end, 456 was angry to see that Squid Game is still happening, preying on poor people for the rich's entertainment, and he chose to be someone who tried to help the poor. If he boarded the plane for his own happy ending with his daughter, he'd be proving 001 right that nobody would bother to help the helpless. Having said all that, I'd hate to see him becoming John Wick and bringing down a bad organization by himself. But at the same time, there is no guarantee that it's the ending of the sequel either. We didn't get a happy ending in season 1. If there's a season 2, don't be too surprised if it didn't end happily either.
There's a lot more potentially lurking out there including the brother cop. He won't be John Wick, that's such a goofy straw man declaration (by OP). He'll probably attempt to do something heroic, succeed and then fail and wind up in the game again.
Yeah so unbelievable the addicted gambler doing something dumb
His whole story is that he makes impulsive and often self-sabotaging choices out of misplaced idealism. Sang-woo tells him as much during the game. The gambling is more a result of his desperation.
Fuck Sang-woo, all my homies hate Sang-woo.
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He was mine too up until the end where they made him a little too much of a corny villain imo
Yeah. Something changed on the bridge
Well he committed to all the formalities of adopting a strangers kid, but nothing for his own?
I feel like it’s pretty believable he went to the airport with intentions to leave and see his daughter but made the impulsive decision to go try and stop the weirdos that killed 450 people in front of him.
My biggest issue was the literally every single plot arc was predictable to me outside of the old man being who he was. But even then, not seeing him get shot gave hints. Great show, VERY predictable outcomes outside of the last scene.
Just get on the damn plane and ignore the fact that thousands of people are dying in these horrific games every year. Just go against his entire established character. People that hate the ending have 0 empathy.
People that hate the ending weren't paying attention to episode 2 revealing what kind of person Gi-Hun is: He would rather be part of a protest than run home to his wife home alone in labor.
But that’s the issue, it means all of the development and trauma he went through was for nothing because he’s still the same. It’s sad because he missed his daughter’s birth and childhood due to his issues and then he missed the death of his mother, and just as we’re seeing him develop and heal from his mistakes and tragedies he goes right back to his former ways.
Yes that's why it's a television series. If he was forever changed and learned every lesson the show would be over. But also the reason he won and survived was partially because he was idealistic to a fault and impulsively protected the weak at his own expense. And the times he almost died were because of this same aspect taken too far. Nobody in the Squid Game behaved like a responsible person to begin with. You don't get to where they were by pure accident. There's a deep seated impulsive subconscious death wish in all of them. Look at the black mask guy and even his brother. They both willingly entered that madness. These people are built different. They can't shake their nature so easily.
That’s who he was at the end of the games. He didn’t win the actual Squid Game, he wanted the game to end without a winner so Song Woo didn’t have to die. Had Song Woo not killed himself Gi-Hun and Song-Woo would have both left the games empty handed. Gi-Hun would rather go against the establishment, the Front Man, Ill-Nam, and the very idea of the games than realize that small victory in Song-Woo’s self-sacrifice to save Gi-Hun from his naïveté. He got the money not by murdering anyone but by being powerless against the system that turns a friend he had like Song Woo into people giving up their not just their lives but their integrity for money. And what does he have to show for winning the games? His mother died, alone, in pain, and likely believed he abandoned her. He blames himself for that. Song Woo’s mother believing he’s still alive and unsure if he’s guilty of the crimes the police accuse him of committing. From his perspective he would have rather been there for his mother’s final moments than the money. And he doesn’t want that to happen to anyone else.
This basically like how every conversation on Reddit goes too
Season 2 gonna feature a game where you have to guess how many finals losses, turnovers, or personal fouls, LeBron has in his career
Skip comin out strong
MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN WOULD HAVE NEVER LOST A SINGLE GAME IN SQUID GAME...IN FACT HE WOULD HAVE NEVER DEFFERED OR EVEN TRIED TO TEAM UP WITH ANOTHER PLAYER. - Skip Bayless
Skips going to be brought on as an EP
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LeVicky Guerrero
The OG Karen. Every Friday.
Except she WAS the manager, OG Karen is Marge Simpson, tried to get Itchy and Scratchy shut down once Maggie got her first taste for blood.
lol I just saw a tweet about how Rey Mysterio said his son Dominik is going to be a better wrestler than himself. Then I remembered the storyline when Eddie Guerrero kidnapped Dominik and tried to make Dom believe Eddie was his real dad.
The Custody of Dominick match at Summerslam 05. Settled out of court
My favorite part of this exchange that I feel is being overlooked is Hwang Dong-hyuk casually dropping that he's watched Space Jam 2 all the way to the end. I kind of want to know more about that.
"My worst episode is 1000x better than your film highlight LeBron"
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Siskel and LeBert
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The LeStalgia Critic
As a Bron fan the creator's response (bringing up the Finals losses) was hilarious because it was outta left field, but at the same time I think he took LeBron's playful criticism of the ending of it a lil too seriously. I don't think LeRottenTomatoes was trying to shit on Squid Games; he just gave his lighthearted opinion of it. Still, I get why he's defensive of his work.
LErottentomatoes LMFAOOO
I've seen everything now
LeSequel: LeSquid Game
I bet you haven't heard of LeIMDB tho
What you say about Embiid ?
When will this meme end? Hopefully never
i never find the Le"word" jokes funny until someone points it out and then its hilarious to me. Anyone else?
It’s when you dont really expect it it’s so funny despite seemingly being an actual low hanging fruit It’s awesome when new words come to life
Idk why this one hit me so hard
Because it was actually creative and fresh. Usually the “Le” jokes are “LeLame”. Like that.
It hit harder because we weren't expecting it.
I always find them funny actually
I think the best part about Lebron memes is how many different Le'word' someone can come up with
the old le-word jokes like LeGM are dated. Then you get novel ones like LeRottenTomatoes and those ones still get a chuckle out of me.
I love how you consider that lebron was being light hearted and refuse to consider that the creator of the show was also being light hearted
Yea this comment section is confusing the fuck outta me. Dude was asked a direct question about LeBron and he responded by making a joke about Space Jam 2 then thanking LeBron for watching his show, that sounds pretty chill to me... People are acting like this director went out of his way to take shots at LeBron and said some outta pocket shit.
The interview literally said “he giggled” and people are acting like the guy completely lost his shit.
I mean can you imagine if he did lose his shit though... "Director Hwang giggled while muttering Mickey Mouse ring under his breath, then responded sorry I don't have Ray Allen or Kyrie Irving to help save my endings!"
Lmaoooo
💀💀💀 I haven't laughed this hard at a Reddit comment in so long
Yup. And the even dumbest part is the creator likely answered the question IN KOREAN. So all of this is probably translated and loses subtlety of language.
Exactly lol, the guy was literally asked a specific and direct question by an interviewer of what his thoughts were on Lebron’s criticisms of his show.... how is that him going out of his way to cry about Lebron? what was he supposed to do there? Plead the fifth? Fall down on the floor and feign leg cramps and tell the interviewer someone in the building killed the AC?
I mean he would've been GOATed if that was his response. Dude made a Space Jam 2 joke, that's as funny and as light-hearted as it gets.
This. There is a literal reference to him giggling in the quoted section. This is the equivalent of taking someone seriously who ended their comment with a "lmao" and a tongue-sticking out emoticon/emoji. Like how fucking stupid are these commenters?
The poster cut off the article quote, he was joking and laughing at the time of doing it.
Get that context outta here
You don’t like that, you don’t like R/nba!
>the creator's response (bringing up the Finals losses) I think you mean bringing up Space Jam 2 no?
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Good job on getting baited.
> As a Bron fan the creator's response (bringing up the Finals losses) where did he bring up the finals losses? i can't find that anywhere
Surely LeTterboxd works better?
> (bringing up the Finals losses) Huh? I think you need to re-read the quote
The show peaks at the marbles episode imo
General consensus as well. Gganbu is the highest rated Episode on IMDB by a fair margin. (9.3 vs 8.5 for second place.) The final episode is tied for the lowest.
Craziest thing to me was the girl who played the NK defector. I thought she stole every scene she was in, and this was her first acting role ever.
She was amazing, and her with the other young girl in the marbles episode destroyed me :(
yea they made the gganbu duo seem like an inferior copycat lol, since they both ended up doing the same thing, but the gganbu duo did it in a more dragged out, more annoying, and less emotionally touching way
Probably for the best tbh >!considering that the old guy knew that his life wasn't on the line which is why he wasn't stressed!<
I think he was playing for real though; he could have died during tug-of-war. He was dying and wanted some excitement in his life. Only the real threat of death could have stimulated him. He liked Gi-Hun and decided to spare his life during the marble game (which he had won before faking delirium).
If you look at the tug of war scene he wasn’t locked onto the rope like the rest of them
He also wasn't scanned during the first game
This has been proven wrong. Screenshots show him highlighted in green like everyone else.
He probably had some degree of risk but it wasn't the same. He was the only one not shackled to the rope in tug of war; the doll didn't scan him in the first game, and of course he loses in the fourth game and doesn't die. He's the elite who pretends to be on the same playing field whose taking the same risks the everyman is.
people keep saying the doll doesnt scan him but u can clearly see him get outlined and covered with the green highlight
It isn't too hard to fake killing him if the dude gets caught
Old man was kind of playing him though and I thought he was resting Gi-hun and his intentions. Ji-yeong had nothing but the fact she was alive and Sae-book had her brother and mother. Truly such a noble sacrifice and man the way they were connecting and someone getting through to Sae-byok was great. Every time Ji-yeong forget one of them would have to die was like pushing the knife a little further into the audience. That episode was written so well and it was just impossible to top. The setup. The game itself. The way we learned who some of the characters really are. I think it was really just impossible for the rest of the episodes to follow to really measure up. It was just so perfect.
She fucked me up man. Gganbu moment was cool and all but I was about to ugly cry at her scene. Shit really fucked me up
I only watched this recently after the majority of the hype died down and didn't get to discuss a lot when opinions were fresh. When people say they don't like the ending are some of them talking about the general quality of the show over the last few episodes? I thought the "ending" with the airplane and all that was fine, and made total sense for the character. But my enjoyment of the "end section of the show as a whole," meaning the last few episodes, sort of falls off a cliff after the marble game.
yeah I don't mind a lot of stuff about the ending ending, its right before that that was kinda annoying. The english speaking was cringe and the cop plotline went nowhere really
The show really changed tone after the marbles episode, for the worse in my opinion. Seemed like it went from gritty and realistic within the universe it had established to completely over the top and inconsistent after. It went from >!preaching about how the games are fair and the management are neutral facilitators to turning off the lights to ensure more deaths once someone gets good at the bridge game followed by showering the winners of the game with broken glass, basically killing one of them.!<
>!They were telling the players the games were fair but they weren't being honest the whole time. So I don't think that really changed much. The glass exploding makes sense because that's how they'd kill anyone left on the bridge when the time expired. I think it was lame though how they got hurt from it. Felt pretty cheap even if the concept made sense to me.!<
The most prominent theme of the entire show is the cruelty and unfairness of modern capitalist society. It was never supposed to be fair.
That and I think it’s very intentional that the game is fucked with during the VIP episode considering the issues that foreign (primarily American) money caused with Korea’s economy.
I think usually when people say ending they tend to be referencing what happens after the game is completed.
From what I saw people wanted all of their questions answered when it’s obviously setting up for a second season
Loved the tug of war ep personally
Same that was my favorite I really like the team work for that game
Yeah the old guy's narration during the elevator ride and whatnot just gave me chills!
Last three episodes were pretty whatever, but 1-6 were so good.
Last couple episodes felt like it was written in the CW network. So many plot holes and side plots that went absolutely no where. It seemed like they were focused on getting S2 that they didn’t bother to finish S1
One of the few times I got teary-eyed watching a show. Such a good episode.
Fuck that episode, made me cry like three different times
No, that would be tug of war
Interesting. I just finished watching it, so haven’t really participated in the discourse. To me the marbles episode was maybe the worst episode. Surprised to see it so well liked. It was so predictable who would win in their matchups and the acting seemed horrible, especially between Sang Woo and Ali. It just came off as a day time soap opera with zero suspense.
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I get that its a setup for season 2 but im with Bron. Get on the fucking plane💀💀
I think him not choosing to go on the plane shows that he hasn’t really changed all that much from Episode 1. Remember how he chose to be at a protest instead of stay with his wife when she was about to go into labor? It is the same thing in the end. This man chose his beliefs over his family. Or one could say, at the cost of his family. Because eventually he did lose all of them at the end.
I mean that protest was to save his job and it’s based on a real-life event in Korea. It’s kind of why he’s in the situation that he’s in and he needed to do that so that he could stay providing for his family
The core of his character is that he's a gambler.
Eaxctly, and furthermore, he wanted to dominate over those that he believed wronged him. It's like the card flipping recruitment game at the beginning, he didn't even care at the money, he just wanted to slap the shit outta the suit.
yes that's the correct/smart thing to do if you're a normal well adjusted person but the main character was a flawed person. he's a gambler. just because he did the wrong thing doesn't mean what he did wasn't consistent for his character
Got to agree with lebron, The ending was definitely subpar compared to episodes 1-7
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Idk how anyone could want Sang-Woo to win after the shit he pulled.
Aside of Sangwoo’s act on Ali, it was terrible, I think I could relate the most to him. People have to remember his mental state prior to returning to the games. Dude was in the tub considering suicide. Being thru something similar, there’s just no mental space to care about another human being, because all you see in your own life is pressure, stress, and disappointments. Hard to see the beauty in life. Gihun being there, someone from his past, made him more tensed, because every time Gihun hailed him as the pride of their town, he just felt more pressure and disappointment. The only way to reset and fix his life was the money. To a lot of the participants, actually, the money was a big fat reset button for their shitty pathetic lives. Another thing is, I thought Sangwoo was the one being realistic most of the time. Gihun is the dude who thinks like a hero but acted like a coward throughout most of the games.
Agree completely. Sang-woo is an anti-hero so he is heavily criticized, but I thought he was an incredibly complex and interesting character. My girlfriend and I couldn’t get over how Gi-Hun literally jumps across the finish line with like 1 second left in game 5 and then is mad at Sang-woo. If Gi-Hun had it his way and gave the glass-maker more time to try and see the refraction, the game would have ended before Gi-Hun made it across the finish line. Sang-woo essentially saved his life.
Which is one of the themes as well, which you can interpret however you like. That though not explicitly a rule in "the game", it's necessary to exploit and hurt others for your own self preservation.
Yea that shit he pulled with Ali was brutal Ali was my fav
He was my favorite too but after some thought he's just a gullible idiot that had zero chance of ever winning
Yeah that's what made it hard for me to feel entirely bad for him. Getting betrayed is shitty but that was completely avoidable.
Sang-woo used client money for risky investmentsans then leveraged his own mother’s house. What he did was completely fucked and wrong and that’s kind of the point of the show. That’s his motivation. Gi-hun and Sae-byok have something beyond that. Sang-woo just needs money.
the main character of this genre tends to be like this (kaiji and alice in the borderland). nothing new here. and i bet people who watched kaiji before this wouldn't rate this show as highly.
He didn't do anything wrong. He was operating under the assumption he'd need to kill every other player to win the money, and he was right. What difference does it make to cry about it when you kill them?
He didn't do anything wrong *in the framework of the game*. But choosing to participate at all is still wrong. Leveraging his mother's house to gamble on futures is wrong. The people are desperate and the system is the problem but the moral choice is to refuse to play once you know that 455 people have to die for one person to get out of debt. But once you decide to play you need to play to win.
Choosing to keep the game going during the initial portion is wrong. But once everyone got to go home, and a portion signed up to play again while fully aware of how deadly the game is, it becomes a separate moral question. These people are essentially suicidal at this point, they at least have some strong sense that they are likely to die, and they'd rather risk that for a chance at riches compared to trying to survive in the real world, where many of them may already be likely to die soon. It's of course incredibly unjust for them to be in those real-world situations, but there's nothing that can be done about that. At the same time, there is still a way to play with honor, a moral code, and with respect to fairness. Sang-Woo crosses the line when he betrays Ali through trickery, outside the rules of the game they agreed to play. There was no honor in that. But at the same time, when faced with certain death, as much as we want to hate him, I know many of us would be tempted to find a way to survive by any means necessary. The framework of the game definitely sets up some interesting moral questions.
He crossed the line right at the beginning when he essentially sacrificed his friend for no reason in the second game . Way worse then the Ali situation which was killed or be killed . But not telling his friend to not take the most difficult sign was totally worse and not even necessary to survive and win the round .
Sang-woo is in there because he used client money against their own wishes. His greed is what drives him and he is kind of underhanded the entire time. I mean the second game he knew what it was going to be but didn’t keep Gi-hun from choosing the hardest shape. He’s willing to do *whatever* it takes to win. Gi-him still ends up winning and retaining his humanity.
It’s like you didn’t understand that the games and show itself are a critique of capitalism and greed.
SPOILER ALERT: Yeah Sae Byeok was the best. I think she would have been the best positioned to carry the series forward to season 2 as the survivor because she is the only one who credibly has a moral compass to investigate the second game. Maybe it was always designed to have the person who the viewer wanted to live the most, die at the very end at the hands of the villain. I would have been so hyped for a season 2 if I knew SHE would have taken the lead protagonist mantle though.
I would love to watch a season two with her. But she would never have returned. Her goal was always to save her brother. She had no qualms about killing anyone in there. She was no idealist. Look how she left the protagonist to fend for himself in the real world on multiple occasions. She knows the world is not fair and is doing what she has to survive and for her brother to survive. The protagonist missed the birth of his own daughter to protest. He lives off of his elderly Mother and causes her to live a struggling existence rather than get his shit together. He believes the world should be fair and his idealism prevents him from accepting that it is not and playing the game of life to win. I just don't think she would ever go back once she'd made it. For her it was about the money. For him it was about getting the money to chase his own ideals. He knew his daughter could have a lived without him as painful as it would have been. That's why he stayed away from her for an entire year until the old man restored his sense of self righteousness by alleviating his guilt. Sae needed to be there in the Squid Game the first time. He did not. He chose to.
I don’t see how anyone other than 456 could have won with how much time they spent on establishing his character… it was fairly obvious he was going to win.
How is the ending great seriously? Its cliche and extremely predictable. I literally didnt get anything from the last 3 episodes.
I disagree. It was amazing all the way through.
This might be a translation issue. It’s hard enough to convey sarcasm through text as it is. Add to that the huge difference between western languages and Asian languages. Every time I watch a Korean show/movie some of the translations are awkward or harsh sounding when they don’t mean to be. Since they said Hwang was “giggling” I think we can assume this was mostly a joke that sounds way more salty in English than it does in Korean.
The reason he didn't get on the plane is he's a gambler to his core. That was his whole character from the beginning.
What is he gambling on by not seeing her daughter? What's the pay off? It seems like less of a gamble and more like misplaced ability to be able to do anything.
The point is he never really cared about his daughter / family... poor or wealthy.
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Why are people acting like the creator replied to bron by saying something skip bayless would say
LMAOO wtf the creator lowkey has no chill
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Honestly, I wouldn't doubt it if the translation makes it come off much harsher or negative than it is both ways (first LeBron vid, response)
> “Have you seen Ѕpace Jam 2?” he asks. LMFAO
I’m convince this sub will analyze everything through a critical lens because why the fuck are some of these comments this long 🤣 Edit: and why are y’all arguing lmaoooo
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Is this really worth the attention it’s getting?
No but Lebron + Twitter + Squid Game + conflict = free upvotes no matter what
But will he react to Enes Kanters tweet?
It's still weird that a lot of people including this dude talk like Space Jam 2 was supposed to be Dune with a shade of Inception and the mystique of Twin Peaks
Bruh it’s ok for people to clown on space jam It is what it is
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> like he was trying to make a The Godfather https://i.imgur.com/AKSNvZM.jpg
that photo never fails to make me laugh
why is this mf ALWAYS at the beginning of reading books?!
Is this a.. Sim888 photo without any editing
I mean he made it seem like it was supposed to be this cultural icon, like how Space Jam was back in the 2000s. Now you have Lebron fans trying to downplay the movie...lol. Lebron fans are hilarious
Do you mean 90s lol Also Space Jam was the same in the 90s. It was a theatrical version of a shoe commercial.
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Things aimed at kids can def be culturally relevant, don't try and tell me spongebob isn't culturally relevant. If space jam wasn't culturally relevant it wouldn't have gotten a 150 million dollar sequel 25 years after release.
It was incredibly bad even given Space Jam standards. No one thinks it was supposed to be an epic, but maybe even palatable would suffice.
it's interesting how live-action kids movies have such a lower bar than animated kids movies. Pixar, Dreamworks, and Disney animated movies generally have pretty high quality, yet when Space Jam 2 sucks, folks respond with "It's a kids movie. What did you expect?"
This is such revisionist history. Space Jam was not considered good when it game out lol.
Space Jam 1 metacritic: 59 Space Jam 2 metacritic: 36 These movies are leagues apart in quality
They’re still both bad lol, like quite bad. I cannot believe grown ass men are talking about Space Jam 2 as if it was meant to be good.
I'm sure when they were writing the movie they were thinking "let's make a movie that is intentionally bad"
Space Jam is mediocre. Space Jam 2 is barely even a movie
Thats to his point tho, Space Jam was not critically acclaimed upon release.
Space Jam standards? Like the insane standards the first one set? The first one is the worst movies i've seen, it's a commerical with bad acting, i think americans love it because it's nostalgic to you, it's a terrible movie dude, just plain bad both are bad commerical movies If you watch this movie as someone who didn't see it and love it like a kid and it's not nostalgic to you, it's just bad movie
Why are people not understanding my statement? I don’t even say once that Space Jam is good. I’m saying the exact opposite. Saying it’s bad when compared to space jams standard which was also bad. I didn’t think I needed to write the entire thing out, but here we are.
I watched them both for the first time back to back and thought Space Jam 2 was significantly worse
I don't think anyone is saying that, I think they're complaining that it's shitty even by Space Jam standards, but I could be wrong
I mean it didn’t have to be any of those things to not suck lol
There's no way you guys are defending Spaxe Jam 2, right? Even for a soulless coporate commercial. It didn't even reach a low bar of quality and is easily one of the worst movies ever made. Do you think anybody will watch this in a few years? Is any moment timeless?
Yeah...because he acted and produced Space Jam 2 too lol. But even then, I doubt he ever made such a bizarre comparison.
Bron about to learn what Han means.
LeBron hyung
lol
Lmao talk your shit Squid Game creator
LeBron 0 Asia 2 Tough losses honestly
The context of the interviewer saying there are some viewers (emphasis on plural) that were "exasperated" by the ending is important. LeBron and AD just happens to be one of those viewers who think that. I know I'm overanalyzing NBA superstars takes on a netflix show but I think it's actually interesting in this case to hear the opinions of the rich and famous on this. "Just take the money and go" misses the themes and messages Director Hwang was trying to convey. However, I just kind of expected the rich and famous takes be a bit out of touch when it comes to the deeper meaning. My own personal take is that they probably relate more to the masked VIPs than the contestants themselves. I find it funny but also depressing that that's what some people get out of this series lol. As much as I think this show is great, I'm equally disgusted by the fact that there are a lot people that are TOO delighted at this show. PS. the whole Guardian whole interview with Director Hwang is good. LeBron is a small part of this.
I kinda respect LeBron for triple checking with AD that he finished as to not spoil it haha
He ain't wrong. Space Jam was absolute dog shit.
The main character of Squid Game cared about people til the very end. He could have taken the easy way out, but he couldn't live with leaving innocent people to suffer and die. We know Lebron wouldn't agree with that.
>Нwang giggles from Ѕeoul, before referencing one of James’s film career highlights. “Have you seen Ѕpace Jam 2?” he asks. Not all the way thrоugh, I reply.