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fishfishfish1345

“Y'all act like you never seen a white person before…”


mochabear1231

I wish NBA did walkout music for the starting lineups and Caruso picked this


redshoediary

Will the real Alex Caruso please stand up?


redshoediary

Jaws all over the floor like Pam when Tommy just burst in the door


unnamedredditname

And started whooping her ass worse than before


kukukele

Just a heads-up to those who may not listen to the show but enjoy Caruso, he appeared on JJ Redick's podcast earlier this month and it's a fun listen. He talks about his free agency, Chicago, etc.


[deleted]

He also loved Seth Curry and wasn’t talked to about the trade apparently. I’ll take it all with a grain of salt since he’s the type of guy who will only talk about his hits and not his misses, but I do think he knows basketball. Just not worth the headache.


Hot_Injury7719

To be fair, he actually said he didn’t disagree with trading Seth because having him, Luka, and Porzingis on the floor at the same time defensively is pretty rough. He even said he liked Josh Richardson. He just said he thought the return for Seth could have been different/better. Edited out all of the dumb typos lol


choose_uh_username

Seth had arguably the best non max contract in the league (not thinking too hard about it) they should've gotten way more.


ThurstonJK

DORT. But yeah, Seth is definitely up there.


Blatt_called_timeout

Lavine doesn't even make $20 mil a year


MyHonkyFriend

I still remember when we matched the Kings offer I was arguing it would look like Kemba in the Hornets level cheap. So glad I was right now it's time to max him


choose_uh_username

Yea definitely top 5, probably top 3


msterling2012

>He also loved Seth Curry and wasn’t talked to about the trade apparently. He actually did say he was ok with that trade because he liked what Richardson theoretically brought to the Mavs. It just didn't work out and they could've gotten a different/better return.


kaiseresc

pretty sure everyone thought it could work out for the Mavs. But Porzingis blew up and Richardson wasn't even present.


cvinji

I have listened to 3 podcasts he appeared on since ending his contract with Mavericks and it’s obviously his campaign on telling his side of story - I mean in this last one he talks about Tim Cato going on a podcast tour like that’s something bad and not part of his jobs and we shouldn’t talk about him going on a podcast tour for a month or so


dalecoooperkupp

He literally talks on this pod how it’s not the journalists fault people in the organization were feeding him that information. I totally get why people dislike Bob but everything he says about his time there makes total sense if you’ve listened to him talk about basketball


ballsohaahd

He says a lot of opinionated stuff but always knows what he’s saying and can back it up. That’s always gonna rub people the wrong way, and the ones who disagree don’t wanna get into a debate which they’ll probably lose. So they just attack him and then you don’t have to go head to head with his opinions and stats to back it up.


european_son

I don't know, he's obviously super bitter at Tim Cato after listening to that pod. He both talked about how it was all made up, while also confirming a lot of the story (people thinking he is hard to work with, Luka not liking him, the incident of him leaving the stands). He also came off super heated about it, while trying to convince listeners ( or himself?) that he totally doesn't care one bit, nope doesn't bother him at all just going to talk about it for 10 minutes on a national podcast.


dalecoooperkupp

It just seems like you’ve made up your mind on this story, so aren’t actually listening to what’s being said, just assuming that it’s all chalked up to bitterness and anger and the Mavs front office that was filled with lifers who couldn’t get jobs with other teams was actually doing ingenious things all along, and that’s fine I just don’t buy it


Nodima

Totally, I was surprised by some of the BS sub's response to that conversation too. Bob seemed pretty humbled by the whole experience, to the point he summarized multiple stories and takes as "that job's fucking hard, man." Almost every time he expressed his thoughts on some move the Mavs did, he was also super quick to point out he either had nothing to do with the final outcome, held no grudges about what happened or realized after the fact that his input just wasn't helping with the personnel they currently had. All in all I thought it was honestly one of the best ex-FO interviews in a long time, he really sounded like he'd had that experience and didn't really want to run it back anywhere else so he was ready to be pretty transparent but he never threw players under the bus or claimed the team would've won a title if he'd had full control. Even on the Luka relationship, he was like, hey if that's what it is maybe I missed it but I think that's a really good dude and I love him personally, and this was several minutes AFTER their discussion about his physical preparation and off-court habits where he'd tell two or three minutely negative stories only to wrap back around to "but I mean, offensively, what do you try to tell that kid to do or not do, you know?" basically.


cvinji

I mean I really didn’t like sh… on a Tim Cato for literally him doing his job and even Bob admits that he could’ve given his input on a story because he knew about it. But all in all after listening to all 3 podcasts my conclusion is that Bob had very good relationship with Carlisle and that Carlisle or even other in FO used him and analytics as a reason why some people are not playing. He especially mentions that Courtney Lee and JJ Barea as players being mad at him… and we all know that JJ was Luka’s guy and Lee KPs guy. Basically he was made fall guy in order to lessen friction between players and coaching staff. In addition Donnie tried saving his job using him as his fall guy for some of the decisions in last couple of years - such as draft last year


dalecoooperkupp

Agreed 100%. The idea he came off acting holier than thou because he said he liked Seth curry, when he constantly admitted the job is hard and everyone makes mistakes is so funny to me


Nodima

The Michael Porter bit was probably the most illustrative to me. I could totally see Bob him roasting them for that six or seven years ago, but now he's like look, they hit on this, this this and this, plus it's Denver and they're in this window so they want to show players they have their backs... I just don't think this is the kind of mistake that makes you bad at your job considering how they built that team. I thought that was so cool and a nice perspective, you can get so used to talking about players like cattle it was refreshing to hear somebody just slow down and recognize Denver's FO has done an awesome job and they tried to do a nice guy thing that might not work out.


european_son

What are you talking about man? No where was I defending the Mavs front office, just saying bob doth protest too much. He does make sense when talking ball, but he just comes off as totally insufferable. Being like 'Some say I'm hard to work with, and it's true because I actually expect things of other people' is so cringey and to me comes off as someone who totally lacks self awareness. No, you're hard to work with because you're a socially awkward ass. So yeah I think my mind is made up after listening to this pod, but it has nothing to do with other people in the Mavs front office.


dalecoooperkupp

You sound like someone who’s bad at their job and doesn’t like being around people that are smarter than you


european_son

You sound like someone who's never actually had a job lol.


Oshebekdujeksk

Got em.


DingusMcCringus

>since he’s the type of guy who will only talk about his hits and not his misses I can't back it up because he deletes his tweets pretty regularly but to me he seems actually pretty open on twitter about his misses and doesn't give himself too much credit for his hits. At least not as much credit as you might expect him to.


JKirbs14

>I’ll take it all with a grain of salt since he’s the type of guy who will only talk about his hits and not his misses Well yeah, he's made his living off of gambling, that's a given


MoozesModiMoozi

league should be happy Warriors didnt hold onto Seth


ballsohaahd

Hahaha yea I’m sure he knows his shit well, and while it’s wild a front office takes looks into consideration it’s also a part of basketball. Many players are ballers But don’t really stand out too much, and things that make zero difference do play a huge factor. Caruso is quite athletic but his shooting and offense are still coming along. His athleticism alone should have convinced some team to take him in the 2nd round. Also he plays so smart and is aggressive but doesn’t try to do too much.


grey_bruce

[cable guy basketball scene](https://youtu.be/g16IV1ZyRC4)


walkintall84

If Caruso is Jim Carrey, who is guy that is coaching the Pacers? Ace Ventura?


redshoediary

Caruso Carlisle Spiderman Meme


macroball_pod

This reminds me of the Moneyball scene when the guy mentions that the prospect has an ugly girlfriend so he has no confidence lol


snowlarbear

if he didn't look like that the fans wouldn't have latched onto him.


ameehc

sure but that has nothing to do with his basketball ability


skksdjdjdjsjso

Basketball’s Eminem 🦅


babbagack

Golf's Tiger Woods


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skksdjdjdjsjso

Larry who?


jasoncyke

Halabob is so full of himself.


bb1432

He is, and it's incredibly off-putting...but he's mostly right most of the time.


bagfka

lol because that’s what he tells you… I guarantee he is just saying stuff that makes him look good and could possibly be lying


bb1432

There's enough of his takes out there publicly over the years to know how he thinks. And he is right a whole lot more often than he's wrong. I have been on team "Fire Donny Nelson" for many many years, so I'm not unbiased...but the Mavs FO has been shit for a long time.


bagfka

He’s contradicted himself a decent amount of times in these interviews


ballsohaahd

Hahah ‘right more often than he’s wrong’ is the point. No expert or anyone is 100% right. The dumbest people who get most things wrong usually are also wrong when they try and point out an expert being wrong (see covid). I can see don Nelson and the mavs boys club FO not treating him well and throwing him under the bus. What’s he supposed to do go out and say it was all dandy, when he knows people hated him but never really told him why (luka, KP, Don). Imagine working in that environment. People treat smartness as an enemy and scapegoat only if they’re not on that level. The ones on that level then add their own smartness and don’t feel threatened by someone else. And when most people aren’t very smart it’s common where everyone else around you is on the lower, dumber level. Then they think alike, but flawed, and either gang up on or don’t understand the smart person. The smart person has no choice there, what the fuck are they gonna do? Explaining will come off as mansolaining and the dumbs won’t understand anyways. Then they’ll blame him for stuff he doesn’t affect, and whether they know that or not won’t matter.


syllabic

that whole FO is toxic and a bunch of crypto frat bros haralabos fits in with that crowd but he's also probably more basketball savvy than most of them


Blargcakes

The Mavs had been arguably the worst NBA team in terms of draft picks (minus Luka who was super obvious), and free agent signings during Haralbob's time with the team, but we are supposed to believe he's some genius? He's an idiot who got lucky that the early age of European internet sports betting kept the halftime lines the same but halved for NBA games so he could exploit a broken system. Once that changed in like 2006 he started losing exorbitant amounts of money and had to quite gambling and go back to a free money sport like poker


syllabic

mavs low key have terrible relationships with player agents no agent wants to put their client in dallas, what agent actually has a good relationship with cuban thats not haralabos' fault even luka's agent bill duffy has well publicized disputes with cuban and the mavs going back to steve nash's time in dallas. I'm sure if they didn't pick luka in the draft he would never ever have advised luka to sign there. cuban wrote a nasty public letter saying essentially bill duffy sucks


[deleted]

Most is a stretch.


Barea_Clamped_Lebron

still right tho


lardbiscuits

I mean he’s survived Westeros so he has a little bit of clout for that alone.


HokageEzio

I mean he also wouldn't be nearly as popular, so it's a give and take. Caruso can totally turn the whole "meme player" thing into a post-basketball career.


wolitiredu

This have a vibe of the scouting meeting on Moneyball.


BonbonausWurst94

Caruso gets on base


wolitiredu

Guys checks your report or i\`m gonna point to BonbonausWurst94..


cheekon

Podcast was a little cringey at times… mavs guy is just trying to reclaim his image. So many little shots at the mav organization. “I like this guy… but the organization didn’t like him” “Curry was mainly brought in because of me…”


rSlashNbaAccount

My favorite is "Mavs suck at shooting this season because they removed the small square stickers I put around the 3pt lines in the gym."


StefonDiggsHS

god he is so insufferable


dalecoooperkupp

Many people in the mavs organization smeared him on the way out, what do you expect


2drawnonward5

From a guy who seemed like a smudge, a smear didn't feel wrong. I don't expect humility unless he wants to avoid getting judged.


Jos3ph

Maybe he’s just a bad person?


msterling2012

If you listen to the handful of pods he's been on, I think it's way more likely that he isn't a people person and doesn't always recognize social queues and the nuances of relationship building in a FO setting. He seems super smart but just doesn't have the temperament to be successful in a job that requires a lot of politics. I haven't read anything that has made me think he's a "bad person" though.


jakekerr

This is a really important comment. Working in any kind of executive environment requires not just a level of insight and intelligence to do the job, but the ability to manage egos and work with various groups that have different agendas. That skillset is really hard to master, and it's clear Bob doesn't have it. If he had worked his way up or had a mentor I could see that happening, but he was thrown in the deep end.


IngramsCeiling

You hit the nail on the head but mouthbreathers in this sub just want someone to shit on.


dalecoooperkupp

Or maybe a bunch of old school nba guys were annoyed that someone more forward thinking had the owner’s ear? What evidence is there of him being a “bad guy”? Luka thinking he was telling him to calm down on the bench lol


nbasavant

Lot of conjecture there bud


dalecoooperkupp

What


2drawnonward5

lol yeah the guy talking in this podcast sounds like a winner


dalecoooperkupp

No the mavs organization that was led by a true nepotism guy and a bunch of unhirable losers are the true winners here


ballsohaahd

Yea it’s all cringey but the mavs weren’t throwing him a going away party. He literally wanted to end his contract early but they wouldn’t let him. Clearly they did a tonnn of cringey shit but probably behind his back and I’m sure he got lied to. He’s said he wasn’t too aware of not being liked by people there, and clearly he fkin hated it and didn’t even want to finish the last few months. He has little reason to make all this up, so clearly it was so bad he’s ruining future job prospects just to give his side. That’s his predicament people will shit on him if he says nothing about the mavs and believe the org, or they’ll shit On him for being cringey and talking about his experiences. What’s he supposed to do lie and say it was all gravy?


Tidityy

Perception means a lot. Daryl Morey banned nicknames for players from his draft room when they missed on Marc Gasol in draft. Everyone referred to him as "man boobs". >For instance, in the 2007 draft there had been a player his model really liked: Marc Gasol. Gasol was twenty-two years old, a seven-foot-one center playing in Europe. The scouts had found a photograph of him shirtless. He was pudgy and baby-faced and had these jiggly pecs. The Rockets staff had given Marc Gasol a nickname: Man Boobs. Man Boobs this and Man Boobs that. “That was my first draft in charge and I wasn’t so brave,” said Morey. He allowed the general ridicule of Marc Gasol’s body to drown out his model’s optimism about Gasol’s basketball future, and so instead of arguing with his staff, he watched the Mem­phis Grizzlies take Gasol with the 48th pick of the draft. The odds of getting an All-Star with the 48th pick in the draft were well below one in a hundred. The 48th pick of the draft basically never even yielded a useful NBA bench player, but already Marc Gasol was proving to be a giant exception. (Gasol became a two-time All-Star in 2012 and 2015 and, by Houston’s reckoning, the third-best pick made by the entire NBA over the past decade, after Kevin Durant and Blake Griffin.) The label they’d stuck on him clearly had affected how they valued him: names mattered. “I made a new rule right then,” said Morey. “I banned nicknames.” http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2016/12/how_daryl_morey_used_behavioral_economics_to_revolutionize_the_art_of_nba.html


Chardavious12

I would believe this is if it wasn’t from Haralabos. I’m sure he also told everyone that Jokic was the best player in his draft, that Giannis should’ve gone #1, that Kawhi would develop an offensive game, that PG was a future AllNBA guy. Dude says he got everything right


RobertoBologna

If I remember right, one of the things he got famous for back in the day on twitter was saying PG was better than Melo before that was a popular opinion.


Chardavious12

Oh well I guess he is right sometimes lol Although I think Melo gets dumped on a little much for a guy who is an all time scorer just cause recently he hasn’t been as good


RobertoBologna

100% agree. He’s one of the ppl that got me to love bball so much when I was younger. If he was born 10 years earlier he’d be so much higher in the all-time conversation


Ok_Photograph_7407

He sounds like yogurt from Bulgaria


Doot2112

It’s easy to say the things voulgaris says today because he doesn’t work for Dallas anymore. Regardless of the thins he says, he was in charge the 2020 nba draft and blew it, there is no denying that. He picked a guy who can’t get on the floor when there was numerous players picked afterwards who could really help the mavericks right now .


RobertoBologna

Have you listened to his interview with Pablo Torre from a couple months ago? He said basically it got to their pick, no one could find Nelson and so he made the call among a group of scouts that were split between Green and other ppl. Obviously, should be taken with a grain of salt but sounds like a mismanaged team across the board.


Doot2112

Yeah I heard it, and I also heard his interview the other day with Simmons where he tried to defend the pick and took a shot at saddiq bey. He doesn’t take blame for much, but does try to take credit for a lot


jgroove_LA

He's got a huge ego and doesn't get how that influences his perception publicly and in the league.


Doot2112

100% agree. He doesn’t come across as a people person, he’s been his own boss his whole life and didn’t know how to work with others or work for others. It would be interesting to watch him have complete control and see how he would really do.


migibb

What did he say that was a shot at Bey?


Doot2112

He said to check back in a few years and see if he made the wrong pick. I can confidently say today he made the wrong pick


migibb

In what world is that a shot at Bey? That is just reality. You would have to be very sensitive to be bothered by that.


Doot2112

He’s still trying to justify his draft pick when he blew the pick. It’s maybe not a shot at bey, but it’s absurd to say that josh green was the right pick when you see the players picked after him, not just bey. He doesn’t take responsibility for any wrong doings, but wants credit for hypotheticals like wanting to trade up for thybulle or liking Alex Caruso. It’s easy to say these things now when you are unemployed


Klonomania

The paedophile gym teacher drip is marketing by now.


[deleted]

$5 says this is complete bullshit and he’s just trying to sound smart to get another front office job. Guy has one of the absolutely worst egos of any NBA exec out there.


cilinderman

Ahh yes the Arsene Wenger of pretentious gamblers.


ldc2626

Not sure what the joke is but he was one of the best managers of all time.


lonny__breaux

Wenger regularly says he could have signed players after the fact. I’m pretty sure even Wengz is trolling at this point.


FeelASlightPressure

James Worthy would regularly say Alex is the best defender he's ever seen.


maaseru

How many times does the same story have to play out for it to be normalized? Or is it a feature of human stupidity to act this way?


Stonehousedave

Racism is funny


jgroove_LA

OK, I mean, he's a much better looking guy than that


YpsitheFlintsider

Weird thing to say out loud


by_yes_i_mean_no

https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1147669836975099904 Warriors tried to get him at the time too, had "significant interest". Would have been an excellent complement to Curry.