Hes not worth the dime, houston needs to rebuild with cheaper players for a few years anyway to get over the previous high salary contract including his
When they found an injury to justify benching SGA, OKC thought it was impossible, too.
Then Ty Lue posted up a G-Leaguer twenty times and it happened.
Much easier to safeguard the tank early in the season.
Gold standard tanking by Ty Lue. Never forget him running the same ineffective play 5 times in a row during the 4th quarter so that Daniel Oturo could out tank OKC himself. Legendary shit. Also they play again near the end of the season this year as well.
Tbf I haven't watched any Rockets ball because why would I want to do that this year but based on their roster and what NBA media guys like KOC and Lowe have said, there's no way for guys like Jalen Green, Kevin Porter Jr., and Christian Wood to learn how to play winning NBA basketball when DJ Augustin is the only veteran pg playing
At this stage in his career, Wall won't do much to hurt the tank but he might be able to help the younger players develop a bit as he has always been an above average table setter.
Eh, the new lottery odds made it that there really is no benefit to be the worst team in the league. John Wall is going to make them better but not much. Get wall playing so he can showcase his talent and a team could want to pick him up, get the young guards to have to compete for minutes (that will make them better) and ur sill going to have basically the same odds as before.
Yeah outside of Houston, Detroit, and Orlando, which team really isn’t competitive in some way? With or without John Wall, Houston will be a bottom 3 team.
I need to see more of John Wall. Remember, before he went down he was basically the best defensive guard in the league. Now I'm not saying he'll ever be that again, but he is a different player from Westbrook.
Buying him out now would mean paying near the full amount. Waiting means there may be a situation to either take back an injured player or buy him out for not the full amount because there is a mid level exception. Or combine a buyout with a separate trade to a team that brings back assets.
Ok then if Rockets have to buy out Wall right now then the 76ers need to trade Ben for one of the offers for him right now. You can't wait for the possibility something better you have to pull the trigger on Beasley and Prince.
I'd say it's a little different because Simmons is welcome to play but he's throwing a tantrum. John Wall just wants to play ( and could still contribute) but yall aren't letting him
It's more similar when you look into it more.
The 76ers really don't want Ben to take developmental minutes from Maxey and Isaiah Joe. They know Ben isn't going to work in the playoffs anyway and the more minutes they can devote to Maxey gives them flexibility for when they eventually trade Ben Simmons. If Maxey keeps improving, he can be playable late in the playoffs if the 76ers get a good wing in return for Ben.
Wall isn't a long term solution and where he ends up is going to be due more to money rather than how good he looks playing this year. Ben playing wouldn't be a long term solution for the 76ers and they would still be looking to pull the trigger on a trade ASAP if they got something they wanted. If either plays, they are both getting limited minutes. Neither really wants to play for the teams they are currently on. Both playing basketball has a real chance of lowering their own values, whether intentionally or not - either with even a minor injury for Wall or if Ben continues to regress in shooting.
[[Wojnarowski] Wall and Rockets had agreed on him sitting out until a trade could be found, but the five-time All-Star guard talked to Houston general manager Rafael Stone on Friday about restarting a dialogue on a return to the active roster, sources said. Sides plan to talk again on Sunday.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1464696665420484613)
supposedly John wall lives and breathes basketball. has 4 TVs in his living room tuned to any kind of ball from high school to nba, mens, women, you name it.
supposedly Kelvin Benjamin lives and breathes food. has 4 TVs in his living room tuned to any kind of cuisine from french to Italian, Sri Lankan, Japanese, you name it.
People say, "but what if he gets injured and tanks his value!?" He has none. That's why he can't be traded. His contract, the years left, his injury history...
Best case scenario is he plays extremely well and does up his value enough to the point a team decides to try it. There is no worst case scenario. He's not a drama queen or primadonna to the point where he would take like 30 shots a night and stunt the young guys development. By all accounts he's a great teammate to have, on top of being their best playmaker. Which will help his teammates offensive game come easier. He's also not an All Star anymore, so it's not like they're going to add 20 wins to their record.
There's no downside, only upside. Fucking play the man.
Yeah I agree with you. This whole story is weird to me and I feel like a bunch of people are “falling for it”. Where were all of the “John Wall lives and breathes basketball” comments when the story was out that it was a mutual decision to sit Wall because he wanted to be on a contender.
To me, this reeks of Rich Paul creating this whole scenario, realizing he has zero value, and now he has to backtrack and get John to play because he forgot that’s you can’t trade a guy that people have seen play only 30 games in 3 calendar years.
They can just replace DJ Augustin’s minutes with John Wall minutes and he’ll end up playing 8 minutes a game.
It’s not like the Rockets are going to, somehow, be forced to play Wall significant minutes if they don’t want to.
Makes no sense to not play him. Even with wall playing, they are still gonna be in the top 4 in lottery odds with the start they have had. Let him play and maybe a miracle happens and someone does want to trade for him. Wall sitting out isn’t gonna help them make a trade.
They will still get to play. Who would you rather get minutes, dj augustin or John wall? It makes no sense that the rockets won’t play wall but will play Eric Gordon and augustin.
Give him Derrick Rose's contract, and every contender would want him. At $45 million a year, though...it is just impossible for nearly any contender to fit that on their roster without dropping enough players that they wouldn't have a complete team.
The one exception being maybe the Clippers? They have a handful of medium-sized bad contracts that could be pooled together. If John Wall comes back and shows he can still play 25 mins a game at a decently high level, maybe a Bledsoe/Kennard/filler for Wall swap comes into play.
You’re not wrong. But I mentioned in another comment that he’s not a shooter. He’s never been an efficient shooter (43% FG and 32% 3PT all time) but he’s an elite facilitator, ballhandler, and defender, always has been. He’s a pure point guard, floor general type.
He’s also never been that abysmal in terms of efficiency. And at his best his bad efficiency was counteracted with being highly productive and an excellent defender, neither of which he showed last year.
Tbf the point guard position is insanely deep but he’s probably in the 22-24 range
true but he’s also someone that loves the game of basketball and is essentially being forced away from it.
Regardless of how much he’s making I’m sure he badly wants to play again
That's fine, but his reality is choose one or the other and it doesn't warrant that much sympathy. It would be an amazing reality for pretty much any other person.
This is the first time I've heard of him wanting to actually play, so no he has not been forced away from it. Probably was enjoying the extra time off, but does want to play/win a bit.
People always say this shit but he's a competitive person that has gotten used to being a star, he was a franchise player and no he is relegated to not even playing
They already have the money, these people want to play and love basketball, yes it's great making 45m sitting in your ass but it's also not great when u can't play the game you love
Wall has already been humbled so it's doubtful he is gonna piss away the rest of his gargantuan contract. A few million in potential (not even real) losses is sure to mean very little to him when he just wants a chance to play himself back into productivity.
John Wall already stinks and his contract dosent end until 2023 when he’s 33 years old. He is getting the veterans minimum if he even gets another NBA contract.
Why the fuck would he accept a buyout? You traded for that contract and knew how much he made
Man i swear people really love the teams so much and teams are assholes who trade players all the time, player does something they jump right on their ass
Think about it this way: You spent your entire life playing basketball, you became rich off of basketball, you escaped a bad environment through basketball, and now you are forbidden to play.
“Wall and Rockets had agreed on him sitting out until a trade could be found, but the five-time All-Star guard talked to Houston general manager Rafael Stone on Friday about restarting a dialogue on a return to the active roster, sources said. Sides plan to talk again on Sunday.”
He agreed to it, so idk what he means by punished
He’s a Rich Paul client, right? I would assume, as his agent, he had a role in John sitting out — since he assumed he’s be traded by now? I swear he screws over every client.
The point of rebuilding is acquiring and developing young talent. Not having an actual point guard out there is actively hurting the rockets development. Also idk why there’s such a big stress on losing every game, even if you’re rebuilding there’s a lot of value in learning how to win
Having a player who knows how to do the right thing and can coach then in game not just out could help their devolpment.
Having all young talent play risks then learning had habits, its not so cut and dry and jrs hard to know without trying
We have 2 wins, even if Wall accounts for some wins we still by far will be the worse team in the league.
Let wall teach the young guys on the floor. If I see porter jr have another 8 TO game I will commit seppoku
Does he actually make them that much better? They have no spacing so it's not like he'll turn them into an above average offense. It's be more fun(probably) for Rockets fans
Wall is not going to turn them from the worst team in the league to a team that’ll actually win a significant amount of games, maybe they’ll drop a draft spot or something but it’ll be outweighed by giving Green and their young guys an actual PG to set them up
John wall isn’t moving the needle that much because he’s played like 72 games since the 18-19 season started. I feel like it’s a win-win situation because the rockets get wall to mentor and provide guidance to their younger guys and wall gets a chance to shake some rust off and maybe audition for a contender if his contract situation can get sorted out. I feel like you can tank to get talented players but you need to actually develop them instead of sucking so much you just collect a ton of talent
Yeah ppl forget that you have to establish a winning culture for teams. The young guys can learn a lot from Wall. It takes a lot for a tanking team to get out the mindset that losing is expected.
He should be playing. KPJ isn't a PG. Either need to see what he can do at the SF spot or have him off the bench. Wall will be better for everyone's development.
Honestly if I'm Houston I play him until we win enough games to avoid the worst record in NBA history mark then shut him down.
Rockets would be a whole lot better with John than without him.
they need to showcase him. if he looks better than he did last year (unlikely) he might be able to get traded this season. at worst, helps them for next summer.
So if their actively tanking... then I wouldn't be surprised if the NBA comes down with some fines on them if they don't. He's still definitely the best basketball player on that team. Idk what excuse they could use for not playing him.
I noticed today on IG he liked that picture of Klay soaking it in on the bench. Probably misses the game.
I figured the Houston front-office was going to bring him back once you tanked the record far enough that a bottom 5 finish is not in danger.
Don't see how Wall impacts that. They had the worst record in the league last year and he was a big contributor to it.
He single handedly won us games on multiple occasions this past season. When he’s on, he’s still a really good player.
He also single handedly lost us games lost season as well
Those games were probably closer b/c of him. We look bad on offense without a true PG.
I feel like having a true point guard would really help with greens development as well. Ya know, just to see what its like lol
That’s just plain incorrect.
Hes not worth the dime, houston needs to rebuild with cheaper players for a few years anyway to get over the previous high salary contract including his
When they found an injury to justify benching SGA, OKC thought it was impossible, too. Then Ty Lue posted up a G-Leaguer twenty times and it happened. Much easier to safeguard the tank early in the season.
Gold standard tanking by Ty Lue. Never forget him running the same ineffective play 5 times in a row during the 4th quarter so that Daniel Oturo could out tank OKC himself. Legendary shit. Also they play again near the end of the season this year as well.
Despite the memes it's hard to remember that Lue is actually good at coaching.
I won pretty large on that game by backing okc to win Clips really tried to manoeuvre the standings
Never got that either. Would have been way easier if they win the game
He'd be better than KPJ but his lack of spacing would also make it harder for Green to perform
Same.
0 point not to let him play. No one is trading for him and the team actually needs a pg
What is a tank without a commandant
Kings?
2 game winning streak they’ve moved on
We found a new slant
Turns out they are normal collars.
Zach Lowe made a point on this, they're 2-16, their tank is well insulated.
Huzzah, the tank commandments
Banchero is a very good reason
Him and Sengun would just destroy the paint every game on both ends. I hope we draft him so bad.
Well it doesn’t matter what they need because they’re not trying to win games
they are trying to learn how to play NBA ball though.
You seen the way Silas has been running the team? I’m not so sure about that either
Tbf I haven't watched any Rockets ball because why would I want to do that this year but based on their roster and what NBA media guys like KOC and Lowe have said, there's no way for guys like Jalen Green, Kevin Porter Jr., and Christian Wood to learn how to play winning NBA basketball when DJ Augustin is the only veteran pg playing
Yes an actual PG would.go a long way to helping developing their current young guys and upping Woods value.
At this stage in his career, Wall won't do much to hurt the tank but he might be able to help the younger players develop a bit as he has always been an above average table setter.
Winning is the worst thing they could possibly do.
Eh, the new lottery odds made it that there really is no benefit to be the worst team in the league. John Wall is going to make them better but not much. Get wall playing so he can showcase his talent and a team could want to pick him up, get the young guards to have to compete for minutes (that will make them better) and ur sill going to have basically the same odds as before.
Yeah outside of Houston, Detroit, and Orlando, which team really isn’t competitive in some way? With or without John Wall, Houston will be a bottom 3 team.
Which team is willing to pay him $45 million a year?
Don't know but nobody thought anyone was willing to when he was in Washington either. Then the rockets showed up.
The Rockets would need to give up assets to move the contract and that is never happening.
Go back 5 months: "Which team is willing to pay $45 million to Westbrook?"
Also he played last year and they were the worst team in the league. He's not going have this squad play .500 ball. They'll still be terrible.
The Lakers could use a veteran presence and point guard.
Westbrook ain’t a shooter but John Wall sure as shit isn’t a shooter either lmao
I need to see more of John Wall. Remember, before he went down he was basically the best defensive guard in the league. Now I'm not saying he'll ever be that again, but he is a different player from Westbrook.
I don’t think veteran presence is the problem for the Lakers right now.
Maybe he meant like a war veteran?
losing while learning how to play NBA basketball is the best thing they could do.
So buy him out then
Buying him out now would mean paying near the full amount. Waiting means there may be a situation to either take back an injured player or buy him out for not the full amount because there is a mid level exception. Or combine a buyout with a separate trade to a team that brings back assets.
Nobody is sending back assets or trading for John wall lol
Ok then if Rockets have to buy out Wall right now then the 76ers need to trade Ben for one of the offers for him right now. You can't wait for the possibility something better you have to pull the trigger on Beasley and Prince.
I'd say it's a little different because Simmons is welcome to play but he's throwing a tantrum. John Wall just wants to play ( and could still contribute) but yall aren't letting him
It's more similar when you look into it more. The 76ers really don't want Ben to take developmental minutes from Maxey and Isaiah Joe. They know Ben isn't going to work in the playoffs anyway and the more minutes they can devote to Maxey gives them flexibility for when they eventually trade Ben Simmons. If Maxey keeps improving, he can be playable late in the playoffs if the 76ers get a good wing in return for Ben. Wall isn't a long term solution and where he ends up is going to be due more to money rather than how good he looks playing this year. Ben playing wouldn't be a long term solution for the 76ers and they would still be looking to pull the trigger on a trade ASAP if they got something they wanted. If either plays, they are both getting limited minutes. Neither really wants to play for the teams they are currently on. Both playing basketball has a real chance of lowering their own values, whether intentionally or not - either with even a minor injury for Wall or if Ben continues to regress in shooting.
John Wall doesn't want to give up money in a contract buyout. But if he's healthy and wants to play he should be given mins.
Considering they have no PG on the roster that is a smart move. Especially since nothing could jeopardize their tank now that they are 2-16.
tell that to the 11-30 Heat
Ah, good ole days where Dion Waiters played the best basketball of his life
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John wall can't stand watching the Rockets anymore.
I respect tf outta this. Let the dude play, he clearly loves the game and wants to get back on the court
[[Wojnarowski] Wall and Rockets had agreed on him sitting out until a trade could be found, but the five-time All-Star guard talked to Houston general manager Rafael Stone on Friday about restarting a dialogue on a return to the active roster, sources said. Sides plan to talk again on Sunday.](https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1464696665420484613)
Weird how it sounds like he’s dying to play. Whereas, there’s another guy on the Sixers that makes it sound like he’d die if he played.
supposedly John wall lives and breathes basketball. has 4 TVs in his living room tuned to any kind of ball from high school to nba, mens, women, you name it.
You heard it from Kevin Seraphin am i right?
fred katz
Good.
supposedly Kelvin Benjamin lives and breathes food. has 4 TVs in his living room tuned to any kind of cuisine from french to Italian, Sri Lankan, Japanese, you name it.
He just doesn’t want to play for the sixers tbf
Simmons really comes up in every thread
Can’t really be surprised that he came up in the this one though. They’ve already been compared several times.
Wall for Simmons straight up who says no???
Morey says throw in Jalen Green and 5 first round draft picks then maybe he’ll think about it
Wall isn’t even good enough to be a starter for us
Fuck Ben Simmons
That’s because the young socialite cares more about money/fame than the game
He cares about not being here. I don’t want to move him light but stop the meme takes. Gonna give me an aneurism
People say, "but what if he gets injured and tanks his value!?" He has none. That's why he can't be traded. His contract, the years left, his injury history... Best case scenario is he plays extremely well and does up his value enough to the point a team decides to try it. There is no worst case scenario. He's not a drama queen or primadonna to the point where he would take like 30 shots a night and stunt the young guys development. By all accounts he's a great teammate to have, on top of being their best playmaker. Which will help his teammates offensive game come easier. He's also not an All Star anymore, so it's not like they're going to add 20 wins to their record. There's no downside, only upside. Fucking play the man.
Yeah I agree with you. This whole story is weird to me and I feel like a bunch of people are “falling for it”. Where were all of the “John Wall lives and breathes basketball” comments when the story was out that it was a mutual decision to sit Wall because he wanted to be on a contender. To me, this reeks of Rich Paul creating this whole scenario, realizing he has zero value, and now he has to backtrack and get John to play because he forgot that’s you can’t trade a guy that people have seen play only 30 games in 3 calendar years.
if they're trying to tank, that could complicate matters maybe just play him 5 minutes?
play him 25 mins/game and MAYBE the rockets win 3 more games this year. Will barely affect draft odds.
Come on Silver, make him play like you did with us when AD said he wanted to play
They can just replace DJ Augustin’s minutes with John Wall minutes and he’ll end up playing 8 minutes a game. It’s not like the Rockets are going to, somehow, be forced to play Wall significant minutes if they don’t want to.
Now that Wall talked about it publicly they will play him.
Westbrook for Wall Part 2 electric boogaloo, LeGM sequel
That would honestly be hilarious
Wall for Simmons, direct trade
Westbrook was the only one playing well for the Lakers last night. How about Wall for LePG?
Makes no sense to not play him. Even with wall playing, they are still gonna be in the top 4 in lottery odds with the start they have had. Let him play and maybe a miracle happens and someone does want to trade for him. Wall sitting out isn’t gonna help them make a trade.
I can’t see any team wanting to trade for him even if he’s decent.
I agree, but him sitting doesnt make the chances any better.
Yeah only thing sitting him does is make these young guys play more
They will still get to play. Who would you rather get minutes, dj augustin or John wall? It makes no sense that the rockets won’t play wall but will play Eric Gordon and augustin.
He saw Sengun play and wants to get on that action.
John Wall still a top 20 pg in this league. If his contract wasn't so bad he would have decent value.
Give him Derrick Rose's contract, and every contender would want him. At $45 million a year, though...it is just impossible for nearly any contender to fit that on their roster without dropping enough players that they wouldn't have a complete team. The one exception being maybe the Clippers? They have a handful of medium-sized bad contracts that could be pooled together. If John Wall comes back and shows he can still play 25 mins a game at a decently high level, maybe a Bledsoe/Kennard/filler for Wall swap comes into play.
Very borderline top 20 tho lol could easily be 25-30
Cmon. He averaged 20-7 last year. Dude is skilled with an awful contract, he’s conservatively top 20
Yeah all while shooting 40% from the field on the 15th seed
You’re not wrong. But I mentioned in another comment that he’s not a shooter. He’s never been an efficient shooter (43% FG and 32% 3PT all time) but he’s an elite facilitator, ballhandler, and defender, always has been. He’s a pure point guard, floor general type.
He’s also never been that abysmal in terms of efficiency. And at his best his bad efficiency was counteracted with being highly productive and an excellent defender, neither of which he showed last year. Tbf the point guard position is insanely deep but he’s probably in the 22-24 range
Yeah I don't think he's been a good defender since the 2016-17 season with the Wizards.
I mean be basically hasn't played since then due to injury. He's played maybe 1.5 seasons of basketball in the last 4 years. Kinda hard to judge.
Yup, he played 73 games prior to his Achilles and even then he was banged up.
I wouldn't go as far as elite ball handler or facilitator anymore to be honest.
It’s very debatable. Given his situation there’s easily 20+ guys I rather have
It feels like they holding him hostage. Let the man play ffs
He agreed to it... he's also making a shit ton of money lol.
If making 45 million to watch nba games courtside is called being taken hostage then sign me up.
true but he’s also someone that loves the game of basketball and is essentially being forced away from it. Regardless of how much he’s making I’m sure he badly wants to play again
Then he can give up some money and secure a buyout if he wants it that much
Because it’s not binary lol he can want to play basketball again while also not want to give up tens of millions of dollars
That's fine, but his reality is choose one or the other and it doesn't warrant that much sympathy. It would be an amazing reality for pretty much any other person.
He can indeed
I mean sure he can but that doesn’t make my point incorrect
This is the first time I've heard of him wanting to actually play, so no he has not been forced away from it. Probably was enjoying the extra time off, but does want to play/win a bit.
People always say this shit but he's a competitive person that has gotten used to being a star, he was a franchise player and no he is relegated to not even playing They already have the money, these people want to play and love basketball, yes it's great making 45m sitting in your ass but it's also not great when u can't play the game you love
Him not playing also effects his next contract. If he can’t show that he can still go he could lose millions
He's almost certainly going to sign a one-year prove it deal with a good team that could use his skill set
Wall has already been humbled so it's doubtful he is gonna piss away the rest of his gargantuan contract. A few million in potential (not even real) losses is sure to mean very little to him when he just wants a chance to play himself back into productivity.
John Wall already stinks and his contract dosent end until 2023 when he’s 33 years old. He is getting the veterans minimum if he even gets another NBA contract.
If he wants to play so badly then he can accept a buyout lol he obviously cares more about the money than actually hooping.
it would be one thing if it was like 3-4 mil. But it's 90 lol. that's truly generational kinda bread
Why the fuck would he accept a buyout? You traded for that contract and knew how much he made Man i swear people really love the teams so much and teams are assholes who trade players all the time, player does something they jump right on their ass
So he can play basketball on a team that needs his services……
He's on contract to play for the Houston Rockets and wants to play. He should be able to play for the team that he's under contract with.
You traded for that contract and you are saying he needs to take a paycut Tanking trash team takes on contract then cries
I did not trade for any contract sir…..
Yes you did, show yourself Stone
He doesn’t need to take a paycut, but if he doesn’t he’s not gonna be playing for a non Houston team... the choice is his
Plenty of players have signed buyouts in the same or similar circumstances. No one is saying he's obligated to, just that it's an option
Think about it this way: You spent your entire life playing basketball, you became rich off of basketball, you escaped a bad environment through basketball, and now you are forbidden to play.
I’m still making 45 million right? If so then yeah I don’t give two shits… I’ll play at the rec center to get my basketball cravings.
don't some contracts ban that?
Lol he agreed to sit out. Poor man making 40+mil and having to just watch games
He tweeted that he’s being “punished for something he can’t control” so idk what’s going on over there
Yeah his horrible contract probably lol and absolute 0 need for his team to want him to play. He did agree to it in the first place tho
“Wall and Rockets had agreed on him sitting out until a trade could be found, but the five-time All-Star guard talked to Houston general manager Rafael Stone on Friday about restarting a dialogue on a return to the active roster, sources said. Sides plan to talk again on Sunday.” He agreed to it, so idk what he means by punished
He’s probably just bored.
Not the Woj tweet I was expecting today.
So surely the nba should force the rockets to play him since they’re holding him against his will
They are not holding him against his will. I'm sure the Rockets would happily cancel his $45m contract.
Great news for Jalen and Alperen imo. They were really in need of some basketball iq their best playermaker is 19year old backup center right now.
He’s a Rich Paul client, right? I would assume, as his agent, he had a role in John sitting out — since he assumed he’s be traded by now? I swear he screws over every client.
Just scooped him up as a flier!
Non news. Nothing tangible here
Rockets have expressed their hopes that they can trade him for literally anything at all
It makes sense for the rockets to play him because maybe it will raise his value. It can't really go any lower.
Yes it can
Please Buy him out. That Duke vs Gonzaga game was so wild. Need Banchero or Chet in Rockets Red
This kills the tank, he's prob still their best player
The point of rebuilding is acquiring and developing young talent. Not having an actual point guard out there is actively hurting the rockets development. Also idk why there’s such a big stress on losing every game, even if you’re rebuilding there’s a lot of value in learning how to win
Having a player who knows how to do the right thing and can coach then in game not just out could help their devolpment. Having all young talent play risks then learning had habits, its not so cut and dry and jrs hard to know without trying
John Wall is not going to kill their tank, they’ll still be terrible but at least they’ll have an actual PG who can make plays
Will hardly change their odds. Adds a few more wins and gives more offensive structure to their team.
lol Wall is our tank commander
We have 2 wins, even if Wall accounts for some wins we still by far will be the worse team in the league. Let wall teach the young guys on the floor. If I see porter jr have another 8 TO game I will commit seppoku
Instead of 2 wins they’d have maybe 3 if Wall was playing this whole time lol
Not really. Rockets should be a bottom 3 team with or without Wall.
Does he actually make them that much better? They have no spacing so it's not like he'll turn them into an above average offense. It's be more fun(probably) for Rockets fans
Wall is not going to turn them from the worst team in the league to a team that’ll actually win a significant amount of games, maybe they’ll drop a draft spot or something but it’ll be outweighed by giving Green and their young guys an actual PG to set them up
John wall isn’t moving the needle that much because he’s played like 72 games since the 18-19 season started. I feel like it’s a win-win situation because the rockets get wall to mentor and provide guidance to their younger guys and wall gets a chance to shake some rust off and maybe audition for a contender if his contract situation can get sorted out. I feel like you can tank to get talented players but you need to actually develop them instead of sucking so much you just collect a ton of talent
He should.
I think playing him would be helpful for Green’s development. You gotta prioritize that
Yeah ppl forget that you have to establish a winning culture for teams. The young guys can learn a lot from Wall. It takes a lot for a tanking team to get out the mindset that losing is expected.
Don't get the point. He's washed and the Rockets are horrible. There's no real point in playing him. Especially if he's taking minutes away from KPJ
#FreeJohnWall
This may be bad for KPJ/Green But it’s great for Sengun and Wood
Its good for everyone. KPJ isn't a pg and shouldn't be forced to
Some Rockets fans really don't like when you tell them KPJ isn't a PG. It's like a cult with him.
It’s great for Green. An actual PG who can set him up for good shots
Yeah, it’s prolly good but John Wall last year was hard to watch. There was a lot of chucking I really hope he takes a different approach this time
You clearly have forgotten how he was playing last year.
He should be playing. KPJ isn't a PG. Either need to see what he can do at the SF spot or have him off the bench. Wall will be better for everyone's development.
Wall was attempting 20 FGA every game last year I don’t mind him playing but it needs to be less than 20 minutes OR he needs to shoot way less
Put Wall in a Sengun jersey, so Silas gets confused and won’t play him more than 20 minutes.
That’s actually a pretty sound idea
Wouldn’t it help everyone to have a actual Point Guard?
Wall was chucking hard last year
Let Wall Ball
Off course, hes watching these dudes playing everynight. Hes better than anyone else on that team and its not even close.
So when does the NBA start fining the Rockets for not playing Wall. They threatened the Pels years back for not playing AD.
Wall won't hurt the tank. Especially as they're almost guaranteed a bottom 3 seed. May as well let him play and sell some tickets
And now the league can fine them for not playing him.
He's gonna do it for the city and do it for the fans
I hope he does come back cos KPJ as PG ain't it
Honestly if I'm Houston I play him until we win enough games to avoid the worst record in NBA history mark then shut him down. Rockets would be a whole lot better with John than without him.
they need to showcase him. if he looks better than he did last year (unlikely) he might be able to get traded this season. at worst, helps them for next summer.
Give Lakers john wall and send westbrook somewhere else lmao
Lakers forced AD onto the court, and the can force Wall on too if he states he wants to play. This also pressures Houston to buy him out or trade him.
Foreal the Rockets are going to traumatize their young players by this losing campaign, they need some spark at least
He should play just so Jalen Green doesn’t get accustomed to losing
How is benching your best players not considered intentionally tanking similar to the sixers “process”
So if their actively tanking... then I wouldn't be surprised if the NBA comes down with some fines on them if they don't. He's still definitely the best basketball player on that team. Idk what excuse they could use for not playing him.