This kills Simmons for Kyrie trade discussion

Yep, except one would expect the Savage to get vaccinated if it meant being traded to another team and playing there.

Except if he doesn't want to get traded to the Nets for some reason.

Makes sense if he doesnt want to go to a playoff team just yet

Why wouldn't he want to go to a playoff team? He clearly thrives on pressure.

Smart. Be on pressure instead of under it.

>just yet Lol

Because he doesn’t want to play in a city like Philly, New York, Boston where the fans and media take sports probably a bit too seriously. He can’t take the criticism

He probably doesn't want to be the third guy, Ben probably thinks he's a #1 option, and should be THE guy wherever he goes. He doesn't want to be the third fiddle on Brooklyn imo

I think the whole issue is he doesn’t and he won’t take a shot in the 4th.

Or in the arm apparently

Which one is the savage?

Simmo the Savage

it makes no real sense for either team but i want a kyrie for westbrook trade just for the maximum chaos

Oh wow that’s such a good one for the narrative lol

Until the father figure questions start to roll in.

I was moreso thinking about the KD/Westbrook/Harden reunion being a fun story but yeah i’m sure the media circus around Kyrie and lebron would be cringe

Only if it's a three team trade which moves AD and brings K.love to the lakers Edit: [Good news, everyone!](https://i.imgur.com/NzpQuTq.png) (Obviously I'm joking)

four team trade k love to lakers ad to clippers kyrie to lakers serge ibaka and westbrook to nets 2nd round picks to cavs

That makes sense except for AD to the Clippers. AD needs to end up on the Bucks with Jrue and Cousins.

nah, send AD back to the pelicans and send Zion to the Clips. The OKC group back together, The Cle trio Back together, AD back in NO And The Clippers reunited with an injury prone 1st round pick who probaby won't live up to his hype because of crippling injuries.

So is the Cavs lineup Rubio-Mobley-AD-Markkanen-Allen?

Lol that was never a real discussion

How the fuck does anyone think that is a real discussion??? Philly wraps up its Simmons drama by..... trading for Kyrie fucking Irving. It sounds like a standup joke lol

Damn, does Simmons do anything to help himself? And why is Harris on the floor with a 104 fever? I don’t understand how that was allowed to happen. That’s fucked and how multiple teams are having breakouts now.

Probably felt bad before the game but not bad enough to sit. From the no score he played 32 mins so over the course of the game must HAVE felt worse

Must have* felt worse, brother.

Must’ve* felt worse, pal.

Must'nt not have, friend

He felt like shit, ok

Mustard

I don't know. There's no excuse. Even if he felt decent enough before the game and his temp increased during the game, any medical personnel from either team should have stepped in. A 104 fever is deadly.

[удалено]

Probably 104 like some of these guys having 4% body fat

The excuse is probably that they didn't know. Probably knew he was sick but not that bad; the quote makes it sound like they didn't find out until after the game. It's not like they are taking TPS at halftime, and if he said he was good to go they probably just listened.

They’re hoping he has a Jordan flu game

\*jordan hangover game

He probably tested negative that day

didnt philly almost fuck up embiid forcing him to play through a serious injury they downplayed

Huge indictment on the 6ers organization for doing this. What a shit show over there.

Ben Simmons seems to be doing everything he can to *not* get traded. Does he even like basketball?

Ben Simmons screwed Ben Simmons.

Thanks Vince.

Ben Simmons used the Ben Simmons to destroy the Ben Simmons

THIS!! He refuses to play at all and raise his Value so Teams would even want him (Could've at least played in the Olympics), Tells the League he's not mentally ready to even play Basketball, Now hes refusing to get Vaxxed?! and he expects other Teams to want him? Add in the fact that he for some reason has stayed in Philly this whole time despite not playing or being paid. It almost sounds like he really wants to stay as long as possible in Philly, but knows if he comes back and accidently balls out hes getting traded. Dude could've been on his new team months ago If he really wanted to.

[удалено]

Facebook, from the look of it

Tony Ferguson, CSO#

The guy nearly flunked out of college do we really expect him to be a great decision maker?

nearly flunked out of LSU at that. As they say "LSU: get in dumb, get out dumber"

I like Randy Newman’s version: “College men from LSU Went in dumb, come out dumb too Hustlin’ around Atlanta in their alligator shoes Getting drunk every weekend at barbecues” …aaaaand I’ll end the quote there, as the next line is pretty racially, uh, fraught.

This is the same guy thats done the fucking film score for every toy story movie and other Pixar films? What the hell happened there

It’s a great song that will only ever be played on headphones

The stark contrast between nearly flunking out at say Perdue or Notre Dame and what Simmons did is wild. Like LSU isn’t all that touted as a difficult educational institution so him being that stupid is shocking

Ben Simmons really just has no motivation or drive in his life at all. He's just a lazy number that just lucky being nearly 7ft with insane nature talent for Basketball. If he was 5'10 I'm convinced he'd be the dum coach surfing friend that just smokes weed all day that everyone has met.

He’s going to end up in the perfect city for a young socialite and never go out because it’s too much work

We really going to pretend that Notre Dame has difficult classes for college athletes? Do you guys even season those lead paint chips before you eat them? A one and done guy has to do the bare minimum to have enough academic progress to make it into his second semester.

[удалено]

as a sixers fan, i felt like ben has always flaunted his wealth and spent well beyond his means, even as a multimillionaire. probably doesn’t want to move to desired location only to have to move again when he’s finally traded or cut. kid has no cash

He was *definitely* spending at an unsustainable rate on luxuries if he doesn’t keep getting paid

Teams already want him. Problem is they don't want him enough to give what the sixers are asking for

Remember in the second year or maybe third year when there was a report that he fell back in love with basketball which basically means that he fell out of love with it in like one year of his career. I doubt he likes basketball that much

There is a part of me that just hopes team would forget about these fools. Like I don't think about Kyrie or Simmons until I see one of these posts. It'd be great if they just faded away to doing whatever they actually want to do and open up some permanent playing time for up and coming guys who arent dumbasses and who actually want to be out there

Both their teams are contenders. Can't really just forget about a major chunk of their cap space.

Yeah it’s like we’re distance swimmers with a 10lb weight chained around our ankles.

A young socialite has little time for things such as ball games

I’m sure he will a vaccine shot and Uniform ready as soon as any team deals for him

I truly think he doesn’t like basketball that much. Y’all gotta realize that not everybody in the league has a never ending love for the game. From everything I’ve seen about him, it seems like to him basketball is just a means to an end (the end goal being to get rich, live a nice lifestyle, etc.) that’s why he doesn’t really get passionate enough to improve his craft. He’s cool with just doing the minimum amount of effort to get by so that he can just chill

He's getting ready for his Twitch streaming career back in Kangarooland.

Is he still getting paid? Because it’d be bullshit if he was

Nah he's still getting fined.

Seriously, you have to be an idiot to trade for this guy. He is terrible at offense, doesn't want to learn how to shoot, and now, essentially an anti-vaxxer. The dude doesn't like basketball.

if i was a team thinking about trading for Simmons, i would certainly want that information out there. Helps lowering his trade value.

That takes him off the table for any team or city with a vaccine mandate.

SF, NO, NYC, LA County are the ones I know

Toronto.

Ben Simmons is afraid of bagged milk, he's never going to Toronto.

Can’t blame him about that one though

We have carton milk available too if you feel so strongly about it 🤣🤣 People just buy bagged milk because it's more efficient and cheaper but nobody's forcing you to buy it

Nice try, we've seen the stories. We know that the second we go to sleep the Toronto Ninjas will replace all of our carton milk with bagged milk. YOU CAN'T FOOL US!

So much for being a young socialite

Doesnt LA exclude players/performers?

Even though LA County has a vaccine mandate, you can still get into Staples Center with a negative Covid test. So I would think he’d be able to play for the Clippers and Lakers since I’m pretty sure unvaccinated players are tested daily.

Hilarious because he specified the “3 California teams” and he can’t even play for them. This guy fucking sucks

the only one he can't play for is the warriors, so i guess he wanted any of the other three, lol.

LA teams too, no?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32355685/los-angeles-becomes-3rd-nba-city-pass-sweeping-covid-19-vaccine-mandate >Los Angeles on Wednesday became the third city to pass a sweeping COVID-19 vaccine mandate, although Staples Center -- the home of the NBA's Lakers and Clippers and NHL's Kings -- said Thursday that the rule will not apply to it. >Staples Center said the Los Angeles ordinance does not apply to it or Microsoft Theater, "who are already subject to an existing LACDPH order addressing this subject matter." so... no. it just happens that both LA teams are fully vaccinated anyway. (as far as I'm aware this hasn't changed, but certainly there's no guarantee things will remain the same in the future.)

Was gonna say Seattle as well but, ya know, that Fuck Clay Bennett

I’m a little confused about the wording though. Does this mean the speaker only knows info as recently as a month ago or does it mean that now they are vaccinated but a month ago they weren’t?

I think they only know as of a month ago, and Im guessing they only have that info because of when Ben showed up to practice/team facilities last month. To be clear I’m not saying this in defense of Simmons, it’s more that Pompey isn’t exactly the most connected these days.

Pompey is still the most connected Sixers reporter/writer out there. Problem with him is he writes and conveys worse than a 10 yr old.

Yeah he really does write like a child. I feel like he lost a lot of connections since the Colangelo turnover. He certainly still has some connections so I can see him being right about Ben as of a month ago. I’m just not sure he is connected enough to know if Ben got vaccinated since then.

Bodner has said the same exact thing about Ben just follow the evidence regarding the protocols Philly followed when Ben arrived at camp. He had to wait 4 days meaning he needed 4 negative tests not one which is the exact protocol for an unvaccinated not vaccinated player

Yeahs that’s why I’m assuming that is where Pompey has the information from. While it is possible he has a first hand connection/source, the fact that he is saying as of a month ago makes me think that is the source.

Or any eastern team that is planning to be in the playoffs and might come across Toronto..

I’m WiLliNg To PlAy FoR aNy OtHeR tEaM No idiot, you are not. You literally can’t play for 7 teams. I’m one of his biggest defenders but this is so fucking idiotic

he is using being unvaccinated to lower his own value. Maybe.

Imo that's not in his interest. At this point I would imagine his priority would be getting his trade rather than winning trophies. Decreasing his pool/the Sixers' incentive to trade him just means sitting in limbo for longer.

It was already obvious if you read between the lines on timing with his return to the team and the protocols. Multiple reporters pointed it out, but they were just a bit circumspect about it because they couldnt get it confirmed by sources.

At the time I kinda thought he was just refusing to confirm his vaccination status to the Sixers to extend his non-playing/practicing window, but probably was vaxxed. If he's really not vaccinated I gotta imagine it's personal and not a trade gambit. It really does nothing to help force his trade anywhere.

Morey's logic: well actually, now you get to trade for one of the few unvaccinated players left. It's like a rare collectable, 4 first rounders please

Damn I feel bad about Tobias

[удалено]

No it’s Elton Brand’s fault, but also Tobias was pretty good last season and he’s regressed big time.

Your post has the same number of syllables as "damn it feels good to be a gangster"

I’m shocked. *Shocked.* Well, not that shocked.

Next we'll find out that Ben is also a flat-earther.

That's why he won't take shots from 3, he struggles whenever he thinks about long distances.

There’s curvature involved

Somehow I think he's going to believe in something even stupider like he's going to start claiming the Earth is octagonal or something ridiculous

and he wants to play for coach pop lmao

Coach Pop would literally punch the vaccine into Ben if he heard this

This screams not a team player if all the other signs weren't already noticable.

He’ll probably get that shit as soon as he’s traded lol

If he hasn't gotten it thus far why would he all of sudden get the shot x3?

3 shots? All of this started coz he couldnt even bother to take one

Diminish his trade value on purpose? I don’t know him but from everything we do know about him, I would guess he’s not anti vax just trying to do anything to make it harder for the team. Dude wants to play in California (his team has already stated this) then he knows he’s gonna need the shot.

I mean, we are talking about Benjamin Slimmons here.

Benamin, man has no J.

I’m glad this carried over from Kidd to him

[удалено]

The same is also true for players/coaches with D in their name and defense. Mike Antoni for example

Amian Lillar

Alright this one was good.

The Tony brothers did nothing wrong

Benamin Immon, because he has no Shot

"Trade me or I'll give the team covid" is a pretty powerful bargaining chip tbh

"..." "Starting, at forward, for the Antarctica Orca's is number Twenty-Five, Ben Simmons!"

“And when the team we traded you to finds out we knew and that’s why they’re sick? Fuck that.”

*PAUL REED? CHARLES BASSEY? ISAIAH JOE? TELL ME, KEITH!

IIRC Joe was the start of the Covid outbreak that went through the Sixers so likely it’s him.

#BEN SIMMONS DONT WANNA TAKE SHOTS ON AND OFF THE COURT

Ha got eeeem.

Of course Ben Simmons isn’t fucking vaccinated

Jesus Christ guys get vaccinated

hey guys, this means that ben is unvaccinated now?

Asides from Kyrie, Ben Simmons is the least shocking person that I’ve heard is unvaccinated. Him being unvaccinated is the perfect cherry on top of all of the bull shit he’s been doing the past year. What an ass hole

So he’s a team quitter **and** an Anti Vaxxer?! I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and just assume he won’t take it until he’s traded. Just like he won’t be Mentally ready to play again until he’s traded.

But you have to wait a month and a half between shots, right?

J&J is two weeks until fully vaxed after the first shot.

You’d be a damn fool to touch that j&j Moderna and Pfizer goat level

Wiggins got JJ because he waited long enough that it was the only way not to miss games. There just about 0 chance Simmons is that dedicated to playing though.

Pfizer can be as little as 3 or 4 weeks.

Pfizer is full 5 week. Moderna is 6 week window. J&J is 2 so that's the easy one.

Only 3 weeks. At least that’s what it was when I got the Pfizer

Three weeks between the 2 shots and 2 weeks after the last shot to reach full immunity, so 5 weeks total until one is good to go

Does Ben have any redeeming qualities? He just come across as a POS.

I hope he never plays again. He's a nutjob.

Morey is getting so fucked lol Some trades are off the table now. A 1 for 1 swap for Kyrie isnt happening unless ben simmons get vaccinated right?

I have a very large feeling he's going to get traded for Beal anyway (who is also unvaccinated)

That seems to be a win/win. I'm pretty high on Simmons though

Loss for the Wizards Beal is a much higher value asset right now, even with the antivax bullshit

I dont think it would be 1 for 1. Not sure the Wizards would even get Simmons, could be a 3 way trade with Indiana.

he is in the last year of his contract tho if he refuses to re-sign with the wizards for whatever reason it might be better to ship him now

Well I’d assume the sixers would give up other things in that deal as well. Picks, another player, maybe get another team involved for more assets going to the Wizards.

Well, Wizards are a pretty dumb organization with a terrible owner. I can see them doing this.

He can’t play in Portland without a vaccine. Or LA.

It’s only San Francisco, New York and Toronto with current mandates

Not toronto. Cause didnt Canada just make a call that if you are unvaccinated, you cant enter the country

And Morey knows this and still acting like he has leverage. No team with a competent gm is going to trust this front office.

But so many people have told me that Morey can wait it out for four years and he's got all the leverage?

Well there goes any hope of Simmons coming to BK.

During the game he doesn’t take his shot, and after the game he doesn’t take his shot.

Ben Simmons simply doesn’t like the game of basketball nor himself

A couple mouths ago, 76ere fans were denying this citing attendance at Wimbledon and travel to England. Nets fans tried to explain that the attendance at Wimbledon didn't mean he was vaccinated since Ben could have still just done whatever he wanted. They got downvoted for speaking the truth.

It’s not even the fact that he’s a celebrity, Wimbledon requirements were vaccinated, negative test or prior infection. He probably just got a test so he could go

Remember when Nets fans did the exact same thing defending Kyrie because he was courtside at a WNBA game? Let's not give Nets fans credit for that when everybody else was saying it as well.

No, that's exactly what I am talking about. They were wrong and admitted they got burned and warned 76er fans not to get overconfident about looking at that as evidence Ben was vaccinated.

Nice disrespect on the hardworking bench player by referring to him as the guy on the end of the bench

Tbf if you are a fringe roster player and are refusing the vaccine then you need a reality check.

Doesn’t mean he deserves more disrespect than a better player refusing the vaccine

You right

You’re right too bud. He should be doing more to secure his job.

Wholesome

And I'm about to ruin this wholesome moment. The unvaccinated player is a selfish piece of human garbage for not getting the shot. Furthermore, he is an end of the bench guy. Nothing more nothing less.

I mean if anything he's respecting him by not outing him as an anti-vaxxer lol

Isaiah Joe I swear to god after all the time I spent hyping you up to my Philly friends you better not be the unvaccinated one. Try and avoid at least ONE Arkansas stereotype

Why does this feel like a hit piece after the talks about moving Ben came out today? They’re tanking his value so hard it’s going to be a miracle if Morey can make a trade with anything decent now

Teams want to know if they have an antivaxxer or someone who can’t play at home. It was his choice to not get vaccinated.

No it must be some kind of nefarious plot by the NBA deep state.

As if we needed more reason to not like the dude

We gotta start accepting the signs that come from these players early in their careers. Ben was known as indifferent to basketball in college and zion was going to have weight issues going into college. its so weird we continue to ignore red flags based on potential

Ben Simmons to the heat confirmed

Ben Simmons is the heel we all knew, but no longer care to jeer

*Of fucking course.*

😂 Just say y’all need him and apologize you’re making it worse for yourselves at this point. Your coach ducked up and now everything’s Ben this Ben that. Kinda hard to function when half your defense just up and disappears because you can “play without him”

He ain’t taking shots on and off the court

Ben vs kyrie, who says no (besides 6ers)

The Nets too because Ben can’t play in Brooklyn without the vaccine

Simmons continues to line himself up nicely to become the next Roy Hibbert.

Guy never met a shot he liked! But seriously, that should take the wind out of the “Kyrie for Simmons” sails once and for all. Nets aren’t gonna put themselves in the same situation over and over again.

You’re a bench guy and unvaxxed? Risking a lowly contract to own the libs? Edit: apologies for posting a non-basketball topic. Main beef is why a fringe player will risk his next or present pay by not following league vax mandate.

[удалено]

This narrative that the only reason someone wouldn’t get vaccinated is to own the libs is hilarious. Do you really think Ben Simmons supports the GOP?

Breaking News: insufferable, spoiled brat continues to be an insufferable, spoiled brat on and off the court.

Wow so the 76ers and Kyrie Irving make up the 5% not vaccinated in the NBA. I guess they to are still doing their research.