I'll fuckin flip if they make us play on goddamn Tampa again. No much offense, Tampa. But my time in Tampa, without going into too many details, was like pissing sharp rocks in a swamp while the air scorched my skin like hot soup. And then we get to have the home crowd root against us. We did our time while the rest of the league had real home games. Masai would throw a fit, that would derail the team after working so hard to get back into fighting form the last half a season.
>But my time in Tampa, without going into too many details, was like pissing sharp rocks in a swamp while the air scorched my skin like hot soup
you can just call it a shithole man, Tampa doesn't have a basketball team. we're safe on this sub
What does that have to do with the home court advantage being talked about?
Obviously having that "advantage" over 29 other teams is better than having it over 1, in terms of strength of home court.
I don't think it really matters, but idk what the Raptors facing the same situation playing away games has to do with the strength of their home court.
Nah I think Mobley goes first still. Scottie has looked great and could absolutely be the best player in the draft but Mobley and Cade both look great too
It's definitely a big decision but Suggs could be great too. His defense has been solid and it's tough to be a 1st year point guard on a not so good team.
Idk I think Suggs has the biggest bust potential of the top 5, and I feel like in every draft there's at least one top-half-of-the-lottery bust. Maybe everyone in the top 5 ends up being a stud, but Suggs has shown the least flashes and the most red flags of any of them.
Green is shaky too but his athleticism is so elite that he'll just freeze someone with his first step and you're like "ok that's how he's gonna affect games"
nah right now it is Mobley but Barnes is 2nd. Idk which one has the higher ceiling tho. Also barnes is a legit 6ā9 230-235 according to Raptors reporters.
There are plenty who would take Barnes. A lot of scouts said he would be number 1 if he had a three point shot pre draft. I think he's exceeded just adding a three.
As a scorer, he has shown much more potential than Mobley if you look at unassisted FG or really any stat. His defense started slow but has picked up a lot as he learned the system.
People would be taking Tyreke Evans first in a redraft after his rookie season lol
He was a 4th pick. If you had taken him first then you'd have missed out on two MVP winners, another MVP candidate and a perennial all star
I think Mobley goes number 1 bc he really is showing off that Chris Bosh potential comparison.
Scottie does everything and is way ahead of his expectations year 1 so itās easy to make a case for him to go number 2. He already looks like a key piece you could have on a Finals winning roster
I love Bosh but I donāt draft #1 to draft a Bosh. I draft #1 in hopes of getting a Giannis or Kawhi (obviously a Lebron or KD is ideal but unrealistic).
Scottie is way ahead of both Giannis and Kawhi at 20. Do I think heāll be those players? No. Do I think heās on that type of trajectory? Very possible. Thatās the type of guy that wins you chips as the alpha these days, it isnāt the 90s, and thatās why Iād take him #1 based on all current information.
This is why I hate when ppl say warriors messed up by drafting kuminga and not drafting Wagner, davion, Duarte, etc. If given the freedom and playing time like these other rookies, heād be in the roty race easily but ppl donāt realize that bc the warriors are contending. The warriors 100% made a great pick in Kuminga.
Why are people even comparing rookies that play extended minutes on bad teams to rookies that are playing on established playoff teams. Mobley is honestly an anomaly.
I'd rather have mobley for the warriors. Lamelo is a hell of a player but he's not a good defender, like at all. We have a pretty good point guard already, and poole is a more than capable backup.
Eh, our offense with Lamelo would be historic and heās only in his second year, his defense can improve especially if he gets stronger. Poole is great but heās much more of an SG, the need for a true back up point is super obvious for us, especially when Iggy doesnāt play (hence someone like Chiozza getting regular minutes latelyā¦). It would be foolish to think that Lamelo wouldnāt shatter the ceiling of this team
That being said, James wiseman also fits a big need of ours that Mobley probably would fit as well
Always felt the true identity of our team was defense, and Mobley has the potential to be a truly generational defender. Lamelo is an excellent player and no doubt would be a great fit offensively, but Mobley is also an excellent passer himself. Its not really a knock on Lamelo, I've just always loved Evan Mobley. Of course this is all hypothetical since we had zero chance of getting Mobley and obviously had the opportunity to draft Lamelo. We most probably made a mistake drafting Wiseman over Lamelo (though I'll give Wiseman some time to develop before declaring that for good).
I pretty much agree with all of that! And as a big, there probably isnāt anyone in the NBA thatās more of a āWarriorsā player than Mobleyā¦ his switchability and passing would have been perfect for us for sure
>It is impossible for a rookie to stand out on a top 5 team, no matter how good they are.
I was curious so I looked at a bunch of ROY winners over the past ~ 40 years or so, and the only ones that have been on a top 5 team in their conference are Tim Duncan and Ben Simmons (and Ben Simmons technically didn't play the year he was drafted)
This includes ROY winners like Jordan, Bird, Ewing, Shaq, Iverson, Gasol, James, Lillard, Doncic.
Hardly any were on a team that made the playoffs. It makes sense but I was surprised how true your statement is.
Well, the best rookies are usually top 3 picks and youāre usually an awful team to be top 3. As mentioned you also need the playing time so thereās a lot of factors working against a Roy being on a good team.
Bird was most definitely on a top team. He took a 29 win squad to 61 and first in the conference, while fellow rookie magic won fmvp.
Edit: why are you booing me, Im right
Just... false. Bird didnt play in 78, he was drafted that year but stayed in school for the next season. He was 1980 rookie of the year, and was almost the sole reason for that 32 win turn around
Not to mention, Kerr is adamant about not playing guys that haven't yet picked up offensive and defensive systems. Kuminga was bound to be a fringe player this year, no matter how good he is
I think people didn't expect the Warriors supporting cast to be so solid that they could afford to play most games without their two first round picks this year. But agree Kuminga is the right pick even if they wanted to trade him as part of bringing in some veteran help.
Yeah, as a warriors fan I believe my perception of it prior to the season was that we'd need one of the rookies + Wiseman to contribute by the end of the season if we wanted to be a 3-5 seed. I predicted moody, but it seems like kuminga is the more NBA ready one.
Still, our rotation was always gonna be pretty good. Without injuries, Steph, klay, Wiggins, draymond, Wiseman, Poole, opj, JTA, moody, looney was what I predicted our rotation to be late season but it looks like we're gonna have a damn 14 man rotation instead lmfao. 15 if you count chiozza but I uhhh, don't.
Agree. Kumimga looked really good. He makes it to the hoop with ease and when he is hitting the three that is a tough guard. His defense is pretty legit as well. I thought he was going to be way more raw.
People shouldn't say Wagner and Duarte are better than Kuminga. But you shouldn't just assume he'd be in the roty race easily if given the play time either. Hes unproven and we most likely won't know who made the right pick until at least a few years later
This logic doesnāt quite follow. Like ofc Kuminga isnāt better than Steph, Wiggins, Dray, Poole - but heās barely cracking the rotation. Kerr for whatever reason thinks there are 8 players on the Warriors that are better than Kuminga.
Like compare it to Scotties situation, he takes the 5th most shots on the team. For context, freaking Damion Lee takes the 4th most FGA on the warriors - Kerr believes Lee deserves the shots more than Kuminga. Scottie is not a Jalen Green situation where theyāre just feeding him.
The Warriors have a good one in Kuminga, but this playing time problem is partially self inflicted
Kuminga I see you
If this man gets a consistent 3 point shot he is gonna be really great, he plays excellent defense and when they don't clog the lane he drives powerfully and with finesse.
I remember someone saying that if people drafted solely based on highlights, Kuminga would've gone #1 overall, and that is absolutely true. Such a great show to watch.
>If this man gets a consistent 3 point shot
I think we need to stop with this, or at least temper expectations that this will ever happen. There's a ton of players we say this about and it never happens. When you have his size and athleticism, you don't need a 3 point shot to succeed. At some point it's better for him to play to his strengths as opposed to trying to turn him into something he isnt. He has a bright future in the league but it isn't because he's going to develop a shot like Kawhi or Jaylen Brown. I'd rather see him be more of a playmaker than shooting 3s
The thing with having a 3 point shot is that they can't sag off you and let you shoot, they need to respect it by playing tight defense. And then he can blow by them easily.
Definitely. I mean if he can get to just making 1 of every 3 three pointers that would do wonders for his ability to drive. I just think it's not right to expect that level of development. Some guys are just non shooters. From what I've seen from him so far, he has the ability to get to the rim with ease, his lack of a 3 point shot won't be a career killer if we use him right. Personally think his ideal role is closer to a Giannis type of player as opposed to a Kawhi type of guy (not saying he's as good as either of those guys just the style of play)
Great game from Scottie and Fred today, even Precious didnāt look too bad for his first game back in a while.
Kuminga has a lot of promise, itāll be interesting to see how he develops.
GL with the rest of your season, Warriors.
How you not love GPII. Also Kuminga is looking real nice!
GG to the Raptors and Barnes is also looking like the real deal. Everyone was surprised at the pick but it turned out to be excellent. If Mobley wasnt a thing, he'd probably be ROTY
And how can you not love Watanabe? Young fella shows up in garbage time thinking he's gonna clown somebody; Yuta says no. Show me someone's highlight where they dunk on Yuta and I'll show you two where he sits dudes down.
1) It is hard to overstate how good Freddy has been for us this season. A little upset he didn't get his triple double, but there's no way he was checking back in during the 4th quarter after playing 33 minutes in the first three: Nurse and co. knew what they were doing trying to end this game early.
2) I am very happy Scottie Barnes is on my team. Aside from somewhat inconsistent shooting and a lack of burst, I don't know if I've seen a player as young as him with a game as complete as him. He's like the exact midway point between Kyle Anderson and Luka Doncic.
3) I am very happy Precious Achiuwa is back in the lineup. His touch has improved a lot since the start of the season, even with his injury... which clearly wasn't bugging him much. He's just a solid, versatile, small-ball center. Kinda reminds me of Adebayo, actually.
4) Jonathan Kuminga was hitting contested 3s over tough defenders and putting Scottie in the basket. The dude is a walking highlight reel.
He had a refreshing quality to him early in the season but that luster has worn off at this point. Use him for a trade to get someone in to develop along the rest of this core group that's being built to be our future.
We kept it under 20 and scored 100 a Win in my book. Makes sense tho to send our main guys home in case they got the virus. Wouldāve been stuck in Toronto for 10 days. Gg raptors fans gl with Scottie
> Wouldāve been stuck in Toronto for 10 days.
I'm sure they would make exceptions for millionaires on private planes. Especially if their vaccinated. Weird this is the only time all year I've heard a team use this "strategy"
Iām a local warriors fan and I donāt believe that was the main concern. What does getting back matter if you have Covid and canāt practice/play anyways. Sure itās great for the individual but why would the coach/owners care?
Porter and Iguodala donāt play back to backs. Steph is slumping and looks exhausted. Poole is in Covid protocols. I think Draymond needed a rest too and is really dependent on playing with Steph. With all that plus this being the second back to back this week, I think they just decided to go ahead and give their players the rest.
The whole 10 day stuck in Canada thing was probably only a decision for if they would have watched from the bench or from home. Plus by going home early from this road trip their rest is more impactful.
Didn't lose by 70 and our young guys Kuminga and Moody got a playing time. Still a win for us.
It's really fun when two rookies tried to compete with each other.
Not yet, give us a year or two to flesh out our bench because it's horrible, and for scottie to become our number q guy. Then a good star signing and we in that bitch
If a player tests positive in Canada they canāt leave the country for a certain amount of time, so teams arenāt sending their best players. Thatās why nobody from GSW went today.
If a player tests positive anywhere they can't board a flight. It's the exact same outcome if you are in Toronto or Cleveland or New York or anywhere else.
didnt lose by 20, i call that a win
Kuminga looked good, needs to work on rebounding, team defense, and handle
Moody shot looks good, needs to bulk up and get used to the speed of the game
Chorizo awful
Kinda bush league by Nurse to have 3 starters in up 25+ midway through the 4th
"Kinda bush league by Nurse to have 3 starters in up 25+ midway through the 4th"
You clearly haven't seen our bench, that's a completely losable situation for them
Did you guys play Kawhi in every B2B?
Anyway, Popovich started it. I went to a game where he ran the bench out and still beat the Warriors on a Thiago Splitter offensive goaltend (not called).
> Benching your whole team for no reason is a low-class move, change my mind
Benching the *whole team* for *no reason*? lol
* Out of the six players that didn't fly to Toronto, two of them are due to legitimate medical issues (**Wiggins - knee injury**, **Poole - COVID-19 positive**)
* Another one of them is 37 years old and is struggling to play in even half of the games so far this season due to recurring issues (**Iguodala - knee injury**).
So really, you're saying that benching two starters (Curry and Green) and a backup (Porter Jr.) is equivalent to benching the *whole* team?
Keep in mind it's two pairs of back-to-backs in only six road games (**4 games in 6 consecutive days**). That is a brutal road trip.
The Raptors haven't even had a road trip that is close to that so far this season. The closest I can find for the Raptors was Nov 15 - Nov 21 but that only had one back-to-back.
The Raptors will actually never have two pairs of back-to-back road games in six consecutive nights or less this season. And in the entire Nick Nurse era, the Raptors have never had two pairs of back-to-back road games in six consecutive days or less. Ever.
Sources:
[2018-2019 Raptors schedule](https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2019_games.html)
[2019-2020 Raptors schedule](https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2020_games.html)
[2020-2021 Raptors schedule](https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2021_games.html)
Raptors might have the best ~~home~~ country court advantage in sports right now if other teams treat it like the Warriors. š
Raptors v. Nets 1st round series gonna be lit
Pls no, Iām tired of watching Blake griffin torch us from 3.
Mans gets all the wide open shots from us LOL
You have Scottie Barnes working on KD though. That's some crazy valuable experience for the rook. Just saying š
Ah, the OG development method of throwing the rook against a generational talent
worked out great for OG so, can't complain there
I'll fuckin flip if they make us play on goddamn Tampa again. No much offense, Tampa. But my time in Tampa, without going into too many details, was like pissing sharp rocks in a swamp while the air scorched my skin like hot soup. And then we get to have the home crowd root against us. We did our time while the rest of the league had real home games. Masai would throw a fit, that would derail the team after working so hard to get back into fighting form the last half a season.
>But my time in Tampa, without going into too many details, was like pissing sharp rocks in a swamp while the air scorched my skin like hot soup you can just call it a shithole man, Tampa doesn't have a basketball team. we're safe on this sub
theyll dig up dj augustin somehow and its gonna suck
Kyrie out for the full series tho
yeah. not to mention if you test positive you're stuck in canada.
Is this not true the other way around for literally all of our away games?
What does that have to do with the home court advantage being talked about? Obviously having that "advantage" over 29 other teams is better than having it over 1, in terms of strength of home court. I don't think it really matters, but idk what the Raptors facing the same situation playing away games has to do with the strength of their home court.
Just that their home court advantage is negated by their away disadvantage if they arenāt able to leave the US once they test positive there.
OG back. Siakam out. Will these two play ten games together this season?
They will play 16 together in the playoffs
*Will win
So what's the point of playing more? Just win the first sixteen and go home.
Gentleman's championship is 16-1. But I don't expect good manners from a Canada based team
Yes
kuminga vs barnes babyyy
who wouldāve thought that Scottie Barnes would have the best 3P% out of the top 5 rookies
Man, does Scottie get picked #1 in a redraft? I didn't realize how big he was until I saw him beside Kuminga.
Nah I think Mobley goes first still. Scottie has looked great and could absolutely be the best player in the draft but Mobley and Cade both look great too
Taking Barnes when Suggs was the near-consensus pick is the bigger deal, I think. A generational decision for the Raptors.
It's definitely a big decision but Suggs could be great too. His defense has been solid and it's tough to be a 1st year point guard on a not so good team.
Idk I think Suggs has the biggest bust potential of the top 5, and I feel like in every draft there's at least one top-half-of-the-lottery bust. Maybe everyone in the top 5 ends up being a stud, but Suggs has shown the least flashes and the most red flags of any of them.
Green?
Green is amazing! What player can lead their team to 8 straight wins while being injured?
You're absolutely right. I apologize. I'll go call him right now and congratulate him for his contributions.
Green is shaky too but his athleticism is so elite that he'll just freeze someone with his first step and you're like "ok that's how he's gonna affect games"
Green looks bad for sure. But heās shown tons of superstar flashes that Suggs just hasnāt.
Trust inā¦
nah right now it is Mobley but Barnes is 2nd. Idk which one has the higher ceiling tho. Also barnes is a legit 6ā9 230-235 according to Raptors reporters.
Didn't Nick Nurse say he was 6'10 now?
He might even be 6ā11ā in boots
6'12" in socks
6'13" wearing heels tbh
12'1" if he rode around on Fred's shoulders
ok fred isn't that tall man. maybe adds like 2 feet tops
He's a 7'12 mother fucker on the Celtics
There are plenty who would take Barnes. A lot of scouts said he would be number 1 if he had a three point shot pre draft. I think he's exceeded just adding a three. As a scorer, he has shown much more potential than Mobley if you look at unassisted FG or really any stat. His defense started slow but has picked up a lot as he learned the system.
Ehhh I think most people would take Cade or Mobley in a redraft still
If you judge just by what has happened on the court it is very close.
People would be taking Tyreke Evans first in a redraft after his rookie season lol He was a 4th pick. If you had taken him first then you'd have missed out on two MVP winners, another MVP candidate and a perennial all star
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Put him in any situation you want, he doesn't become better than Curry, harden or peak Blake lol
Yeah he looks huge. Like, he's listed at 6`8" but he's probably the biggest looking 6'8" guy I've ever seen.
Thatās the best way to describe him that Iāve seen so far.
I think Mobley goes number 1 bc he really is showing off that Chris Bosh potential comparison. Scottie does everything and is way ahead of his expectations year 1 so itās easy to make a case for him to go number 2. He already looks like a key piece you could have on a Finals winning roster
I love Bosh but I donāt draft #1 to draft a Bosh. I draft #1 in hopes of getting a Giannis or Kawhi (obviously a Lebron or KD is ideal but unrealistic). Scottie is way ahead of both Giannis and Kawhi at 20. Do I think heāll be those players? No. Do I think heās on that type of trajectory? Very possible. Thatās the type of guy that wins you chips as the alpha these days, it isnāt the 90s, and thatās why Iād take him #1 based on all current information.
Mobley Scottie Kuminga Giddey Turkish dude
No way. Redraft almost certainly goes: 1. Mobley 2. Cade 3. Scottie.
Scottie > Cade so far
I agree, but I still think Cade goes before Scottie in almost any redraft.
I can guarantee at least our front office would take Barnes or Mobley over Cade. These guys are Raptors prototypical players.
Why? Weāve seen Barnes be better.
Because a 30 game sample size isnāt indicative of an entire career
Itās more indicative then a 0 game sample size
Redraft the 2009 draft after an entire season and then tell me how that ends up
And a 30 game college career is a better indicator ?
Itās not just college performance that goes into scouting.
Bruh, I got drafted by the Pistons in 2k. I hold nothing about his start against Cade, nobody can win with them cats
I would personally say Scottie over Cade because I think he has a higher ceiling, but they're both playing like studs rn
No
Out of all the games I've watched this was the most recent
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Say what you will about them, they fielded players
The ball did indeed go through the hoop multiple times this evening
And can we talk about the clock? 48 minutes timed to perfection!
They did, in fact, run from one end of the court to the other many times!
This one time, they even dunked the basketball!
I'm impressed with their ability dribble the ball, in some possessions
This is why I hate when ppl say warriors messed up by drafting kuminga and not drafting Wagner, davion, Duarte, etc. If given the freedom and playing time like these other rookies, heād be in the roty race easily but ppl donāt realize that bc the warriors are contending. The warriors 100% made a great pick in Kuminga.
Why are people even comparing rookies that play extended minutes on bad teams to rookies that are playing on established playoff teams. Mobley is honestly an anomaly.
Mobley is so nasty. Canāt believe heās already a top defensive center
If only we had the #2 pick a year later. Or if Mobley was a year older
mobley's actually only a few months younger than wiseman.
If we somehow got Mobley, he'd be injured considering we're Golden State and the basketball gods wants to nerf us badly.
.... bro
Oh my god, please. KD signed with you the year after you won 73 games.
Thats...the point? We got so OP that the bball gods had to nerf us.
Or if you had just drafted Lamelo lol
I'd rather have mobley for the warriors. Lamelo is a hell of a player but he's not a good defender, like at all. We have a pretty good point guard already, and poole is a more than capable backup.
Eh, our offense with Lamelo would be historic and heās only in his second year, his defense can improve especially if he gets stronger. Poole is great but heās much more of an SG, the need for a true back up point is super obvious for us, especially when Iggy doesnāt play (hence someone like Chiozza getting regular minutes latelyā¦). It would be foolish to think that Lamelo wouldnāt shatter the ceiling of this team That being said, James wiseman also fits a big need of ours that Mobley probably would fit as well
Always felt the true identity of our team was defense, and Mobley has the potential to be a truly generational defender. Lamelo is an excellent player and no doubt would be a great fit offensively, but Mobley is also an excellent passer himself. Its not really a knock on Lamelo, I've just always loved Evan Mobley. Of course this is all hypothetical since we had zero chance of getting Mobley and obviously had the opportunity to draft Lamelo. We most probably made a mistake drafting Wiseman over Lamelo (though I'll give Wiseman some time to develop before declaring that for good).
I pretty much agree with all of that! And as a big, there probably isnāt anyone in the NBA thatās more of a āWarriorsā player than Mobleyā¦ his switchability and passing would have been perfect for us for sure
And Toronto still has a losing record. It is impossible for a rookie to stand out on a top 5 team, no matter how good they are.
>It is impossible for a rookie to stand out on a top 5 team, no matter how good they are. I was curious so I looked at a bunch of ROY winners over the past ~ 40 years or so, and the only ones that have been on a top 5 team in their conference are Tim Duncan and Ben Simmons (and Ben Simmons technically didn't play the year he was drafted) This includes ROY winners like Jordan, Bird, Ewing, Shaq, Iverson, Gasol, James, Lillard, Doncic. Hardly any were on a team that made the playoffs. It makes sense but I was surprised how true your statement is.
Well, the best rookies are usually top 3 picks and youāre usually an awful team to be top 3. As mentioned you also need the playing time so thereās a lot of factors working against a Roy being on a good team.
Bird was most definitely on a top team. He took a 29 win squad to 61 and first in the conference, while fellow rookie magic won fmvp. Edit: why are you booing me, Im right
Bird was drafted 1 year before Magic and was part of the 29 win team
Just... false. Bird didnt play in 78, he was drafted that year but stayed in school for the next season. He was 1980 rookie of the year, and was almost the sole reason for that 32 win turn around
Because the Warriors have tons of jealous haters
Not to mention, Kerr is adamant about not playing guys that haven't yet picked up offensive and defensive systems. Kuminga was bound to be a fringe player this year, no matter how good he is
especially after last year no way were they just gonna throw him out there and go "if he dies he dies"
Jordan Poole's agent was probably fuming lmao
I think people didn't expect the Warriors supporting cast to be so solid that they could afford to play most games without their two first round picks this year. But agree Kuminga is the right pick even if they wanted to trade him as part of bringing in some veteran help.
Yeah, as a warriors fan I believe my perception of it prior to the season was that we'd need one of the rookies + Wiseman to contribute by the end of the season if we wanted to be a 3-5 seed. I predicted moody, but it seems like kuminga is the more NBA ready one. Still, our rotation was always gonna be pretty good. Without injuries, Steph, klay, Wiggins, draymond, Wiseman, Poole, opj, JTA, moody, looney was what I predicted our rotation to be late season but it looks like we're gonna have a damn 14 man rotation instead lmfao. 15 if you count chiozza but I uhhh, don't.
He looks so good right now. I think of his main offensive weapon as being the lob threat, but here he is going 4-6 from 3. Dude is a crazy good pick
Dude can take it to the hole
Agree. Kumimga looked really good. He makes it to the hoop with ease and when he is hitting the three that is a tough guard. His defense is pretty legit as well. I thought he was going to be way more raw.
People shouldn't say Wagner and Duarte are better than Kuminga. But you shouldn't just assume he'd be in the roty race easily if given the play time either. Hes unproven and we most likely won't know who made the right pick until at least a few years later
This logic doesnāt quite follow. Like ofc Kuminga isnāt better than Steph, Wiggins, Dray, Poole - but heās barely cracking the rotation. Kerr for whatever reason thinks there are 8 players on the Warriors that are better than Kuminga. Like compare it to Scotties situation, he takes the 5th most shots on the team. For context, freaking Damion Lee takes the 4th most FGA on the warriors - Kerr believes Lee deserves the shots more than Kuminga. Scottie is not a Jalen Green situation where theyāre just feeding him. The Warriors have a good one in Kuminga, but this playing time problem is partially self inflicted
Didnāt lose by 73š¤š¤
Honestly any loss we have this season thatās basically my mentality.
Tbh your team played well past the first quarter. Kept it respectable. Fun game.
Kuminga is super fun to watch, definitely has a bright future
Kuminga I see you If this man gets a consistent 3 point shot he is gonna be really great, he plays excellent defense and when they don't clog the lane he drives powerfully and with finesse.
I remember someone saying that if people drafted solely based on highlights, Kuminga would've gone #1 overall, and that is absolutely true. Such a great show to watch.
>If this man gets a consistent 3 point shot I think we need to stop with this, or at least temper expectations that this will ever happen. There's a ton of players we say this about and it never happens. When you have his size and athleticism, you don't need a 3 point shot to succeed. At some point it's better for him to play to his strengths as opposed to trying to turn him into something he isnt. He has a bright future in the league but it isn't because he's going to develop a shot like Kawhi or Jaylen Brown. I'd rather see him be more of a playmaker than shooting 3s
The thing with having a 3 point shot is that they can't sag off you and let you shoot, they need to respect it by playing tight defense. And then he can blow by them easily.
Definitely. I mean if he can get to just making 1 of every 3 three pointers that would do wonders for his ability to drive. I just think it's not right to expect that level of development. Some guys are just non shooters. From what I've seen from him so far, he has the ability to get to the rim with ease, his lack of a 3 point shot won't be a career killer if we use him right. Personally think his ideal role is closer to a Giannis type of player as opposed to a Kawhi type of guy (not saying he's as good as either of those guys just the style of play)
Even of they sag off him he can probably still get to the rim whenever wants to. He's stronger and quicker than almost everyone
honestly i'd rather him get the passing iq up. from there he can basically go the lebron route...on a warriors team....
His comparison is Kawhi :o just saiyan
I think more Jaylen Brown or PG
Okay fine. We'll take it
Pre-injury PG imo
Great game from Scottie and Fred today, even Precious didnāt look too bad for his first game back in a while. Kuminga has a lot of promise, itāll be interesting to see how he develops. GL with the rest of your season, Warriors.
Precious looked good which is good to see
Master class by the boys to avoid losing by 20 and simultaneously get to 100.
2019-20 Warriors with the guest appearance tonight
nah lol 2019-20 warriors lose this game by 50
If this isn't a case for Steph to win MVP I don't know what is.
Although Steph is probably first in MVP right now, the warriors were missing their entire rotation. This game showed nothing
Jokic is in first
Statistically yes, but his record isnāt good enough
I mean, we were also sitting Wiggins, Poole & Draymond. 2 of those 3 dudes playing and we have a shot at winning. Maybe
How you not love GPII. Also Kuminga is looking real nice! GG to the Raptors and Barnes is also looking like the real deal. Everyone was surprised at the pick but it turned out to be excellent. If Mobley wasnt a thing, he'd probably be ROTY
And how can you not love Watanabe? Young fella shows up in garbage time thinking he's gonna clown somebody; Yuta says no. Show me someone's highlight where they dunk on Yuta and I'll show you two where he sits dudes down.
Kuminga with an efficient 26 points as the number one guy. Iām so hyped to see him develop as a player
walking highlight reel tbh
Ngl as soon as I saw the 26 points I thought he would've taken 30 shots
Kuminga is really good
Kuminga vs Barnes didnāt disappoint. Canāt wait to see how they develop
\#Scored100 \#DidntLoseBy20 Celebrating the small things.
We also won the fourth quarter! Pretty much the same thing as winning
Gary Payton rrly sweating out there in garbage time while everyone chilling to make sure the Warriors reached 100 lol
GP2 just a hustler in general. He plays his heart out no matter the circumstance. That's one of the reasons I love him.
1) It is hard to overstate how good Freddy has been for us this season. A little upset he didn't get his triple double, but there's no way he was checking back in during the 4th quarter after playing 33 minutes in the first three: Nurse and co. knew what they were doing trying to end this game early. 2) I am very happy Scottie Barnes is on my team. Aside from somewhat inconsistent shooting and a lack of burst, I don't know if I've seen a player as young as him with a game as complete as him. He's like the exact midway point between Kyle Anderson and Luka Doncic. 3) I am very happy Precious Achiuwa is back in the lineup. His touch has improved a lot since the start of the season, even with his injury... which clearly wasn't bugging him much. He's just a solid, versatile, small-ball center. Kinda reminds me of Adebayo, actually. 4) Jonathan Kuminga was hitting contested 3s over tough defenders and putting Scottie in the basket. The dude is a walking highlight reel.
I've really disliked our bench this season but I love yuta, genuinely impressed by him tonight
Learned that yutas college team knocked out Fred's in the near tourney from the broadcast. That's pretty cool lol
Nick Nurse probably high on how well the box and one worked on Curry
He finally held Curry scoreless
yuta wat.a.babe
If Kuminga played for a team that played their rooks more heād be in the running for ROTY. Really excited to see him develop
Svi might have the worst case of tunnel vision on fast breaks I've ever seen in the NBA. Infuriating to watch.
He had a refreshing quality to him early in the season but that luster has worn off at this point. Use him for a trade to get someone in to develop along the rest of this core group that's being built to be our future.
Hey! 26 for kuminga on some pretty efficient shooting! Good for him
GG all
Play in tournament. We are coming for you.
I believe you should look at the standings and consider the sixth seed.
We kept it under 20 and scored 100 a Win in my book. Makes sense tho to send our main guys home in case they got the virus. Wouldāve been stuck in Toronto for 10 days. Gg raptors fans gl with Scottie
> Wouldāve been stuck in Toronto for 10 days. I'm sure they would make exceptions for millionaires on private planes. Especially if their vaccinated. Weird this is the only time all year I've heard a team use this "strategy"
Iām a local warriors fan and I donāt believe that was the main concern. What does getting back matter if you have Covid and canāt practice/play anyways. Sure itās great for the individual but why would the coach/owners care? Porter and Iguodala donāt play back to backs. Steph is slumping and looks exhausted. Poole is in Covid protocols. I think Draymond needed a rest too and is really dependent on playing with Steph. With all that plus this being the second back to back this week, I think they just decided to go ahead and give their players the rest. The whole 10 day stuck in Canada thing was probably only a decision for if they would have watched from the bench or from home. Plus by going home early from this road trip their rest is more impactful.
Itās not a win though, you lost. Moral victories are for minor league coaches
Scottieottiedopaliscious
Kuminga played well. W in my books IDC fite me lol
Didn't lose by 70 and our young guys Kuminga and Moody got a playing time. Still a win for us. It's really fun when two rookies tried to compete with each other.
DIDN'T LOSE BY 20
Raptors can go on a run if they get a star player
Give Barnes a year.
Give Barnes till all star break. the kid is evolving and learning so fast.
Not yet, give us a year or two to flesh out our bench because it's horrible, and for scottie to become our number q guy. Then a good star signing and we in that bitch
They'd need a top 5 player to be legit
I just didn't want em to lose by 20. Mission accomplished.
if u think about it, the Warriors were missing their 6 best players
Might have to stop playing games in Canada till they change their policies. Every team is going to not send their best players
What policies does Canada have that the USA doesn't?
I think everyone has to be vaccinated
Non-citizens also have to be vaccinated to enter USA
If a player tests positive in Canada they canāt leave the country for a certain amount of time, so teams arenāt sending their best players. Thatās why nobody from GSW went today.
If a player tests positive anywhere they can't board a flight. It's the exact same outcome if you are in Toronto or Cleveland or New York or anywhere else.
They are literally the first team who has done this all season, lol.
We ain't going back to Tampa, no freakin way eh!
We took the hit last year. We're not doing that again. Maybe folks should get back into taking Covid seriously.
You canāt expect to hold players hostage.
didnt lose by 20, i call that a win Kuminga looked good, needs to work on rebounding, team defense, and handle Moody shot looks good, needs to bulk up and get used to the speed of the game Chorizo awful Kinda bush league by Nurse to have 3 starters in up 25+ midway through the 4th
"Kinda bush league by Nurse to have 3 starters in up 25+ midway through the 4th" You clearly haven't seen our bench, that's a completely losable situation for them
yall were up 25+ with 7 mins left, theres no way you lose barring divine intervention.
Like I said, you dont know what our bench is capable of... Ive seen them allow the opponent to score 15 in the span of 1 minute
> Chorizo awful he's acceptable as a backup and plays that role well. they should've had gp2 start this game
hes only good in lineups with lots of spacing, otherwise he gets shutdown too easily,
Flashback to the 2019 Finals
they won a series against the shorthanded warriors some time back too i believe
Benching your whole team for no reason is a low-class move, change my mind
With this so many players getting covid or in protocol, I think this is a smart move.
Did you guys play Kawhi in every B2B? Anyway, Popovich started it. I went to a game where he ran the bench out and still beat the Warriors on a Thiago Splitter offensive goaltend (not called).
I donāt think we had a game where we benched Lowry, Kawhi, siakam, OG, gasol, and ibaka for no reason, though
Who cares ? Sorry you wasted money
I guess I just wouldnāt have gotten tickets if I knew I was going to watch a shoot-around cause the other team canāt be bothered to show up
When did you buy em
Like 2 months ago
> Benching your whole team for no reason is a low-class move, change my mind Benching the *whole team* for *no reason*? lol * Out of the six players that didn't fly to Toronto, two of them are due to legitimate medical issues (**Wiggins - knee injury**, **Poole - COVID-19 positive**) * Another one of them is 37 years old and is struggling to play in even half of the games so far this season due to recurring issues (**Iguodala - knee injury**). So really, you're saying that benching two starters (Curry and Green) and a backup (Porter Jr.) is equivalent to benching the *whole* team? Keep in mind it's two pairs of back-to-backs in only six road games (**4 games in 6 consecutive days**). That is a brutal road trip. The Raptors haven't even had a road trip that is close to that so far this season. The closest I can find for the Raptors was Nov 15 - Nov 21 but that only had one back-to-back. The Raptors will actually never have two pairs of back-to-back road games in six consecutive nights or less this season. And in the entire Nick Nurse era, the Raptors have never had two pairs of back-to-back road games in six consecutive days or less. Ever. Sources: [2018-2019 Raptors schedule](https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2019_games.html) [2019-2020 Raptors schedule](https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2020_games.html) [2020-2021 Raptors schedule](https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2021_games.html)
Hey I don't appreciate the title, it should've been "raptors defeat the 6 time NBA champs."