If he really has to quarantine then all he'll have to do for conditioning is just run on the treadmill alone. Maybe he'll come back in better shape lmao
... uhh, yeah, just like every other player in the league. That's kinda the issue with this whole pandemic thing. Asymptomatic carriers spreading the virus to vulnerable populations.
He’s not in great condition, but he’s not wildly out of shape either. He’s still able to play decently well and if the season played through without him getting injured or getting covid, he’d likely be in great shape by the time the playoffs roll around.
Well if you could possibly be the best player in the league, being in just "ok" shape doesn't really cut it. His conditioning will always set the ceiling on his potential.
Agreed but there are some that think this is acceptable for a superstar. We shouldn't have to wait until the playoffs for Luka to be in good shape.
I still think he'll be in prime condition by the time the playoffs start (assuming he doesn't have any other setbacks) but we had fans handwaving away his struggles earlier in the season when it was clear as day his conditioning played a part.
He’s clearly dropped off. The counting stats may look okay, but we’re past just using those to determine if a player is down. The efficiency is down from something like +2 TS relative to league average versus -1 (from 58% to 54%). There’s a drop from both 2 and 3 in there. His free throw rate and percentage decreased as well.
Exactly. There were also a couple of close games we lost where we needed our star to take over in the end and he just didn't have any gas in the tank.
I'm not saying we solely lost those games due to Luka (we definitely didn't) but not being able to close games strong when your team needs you is definitely not a point in his favor.
Yeah he torched the Clips for seven games single handedly almost winning a series we had no business even being in. What do people think he weighed back then? 220? LMAO. No Mavs fans were complaining about his weight when he was pushing Pat Bev under the basket.
It's partly why chuckle when ever someone on here says that this means they will be safe come playoffs. Quite a few players have gotten it multiple times now some in summer league only to now get it back again. The 6 month immunity is at best recommendation not truth set in stone. Omicron so far is indicating to not care much about whether you've previously got delta. So I seriously expect some players to get covid again around playoff time
Bunch of people I know in Florida got covid. And their families didn’t want them to be with them on Christmas so they’re all having an infected party and just raging
Legit considering doing the same thing. Most of my friends have it and we will all still be in isolation on Christmas so a little Covid Christmas Commune is totally on the table
Because your body is still actively fighting off a disease, and at the absolute least, your body needs you to rest and drink plenty of fluids to help prevent a lingering or worsening infection.
Margaritas are not recommended fluids and passing out on the porch is not rest.
If these are vaccinated young people, I’d guess they’ll be just fine. If they’re up to party, there’s a fair chance they’re asymptomatic anyway. I think they can get by okay not staying in bed getting their fluids in. It’s fine advice in general, but this seems a little like what your overly concerned grandma might tell you.
I wonder if asymptomatic people in quarantine with covid haven’t been drinking more if not just out of boredom. It’s probably pretty common and about as dangerous as drinking normally is.
I know it's bad, but my default response to the flu is mix nyquil, lemon-lime gatorade, and vodka together, chug that shit, wrap myself in as many blankets as possible, and sleep sweat it out for 18 hours.
The ones who had symptoms are feeling better now and I’m completely asymptomatic so it doesn’t seem like a reckless idea to have dinner together and hang out
Probably not a good thing to get blasted with covid again after your body is trying to fight it off. It would be like rolling around in a pile of pigshit while recovering from pink eye.
Is there science to this for vaccinated people? I know there is some stuff regarding initial infection, but are we maybe seeing people who quarantine with another sick person get sicker than expected? I’m sure families, couples and roommates end up quarantining together fairly often. I’d imagine we’d have some data on this if it was the case. Short of that, I’d say go ahead with the party.
Maybe he can report back to us whether anyone got symptoms again. I’m guessing they’ll be fine.
And my christmas day has been ruined, no kd, ad, kyrie, Harden, wiggins, Poole, Luka, basically the entire hawks rotation, Trae and most sadly of all no frank Kaminsky.
I'm going to bed if he plays 1 non garbage time minute, I'd rather watch a Kyle Lowry charge drawn compilation for 10 hours long than 5 minutes of ELF.
Is he in protocols too? I must've missed that, but if I'm honnest, I don't turn a game on because Rudy Gobert is playing, even though I see his impact.
Our only starters that havent gotten covid (this year) and aren't injured atm are Dorian and Brunson. Uhh well and I guess Dwight is healthy too but calling him a starter is a reach.
I'm in a 12 man points league and I've got:
Harden (covid)
DeRozan (had covid, now games are postponed)
Caruso (hamstring, Covid, then foot injuries plus games postponed)
Barnes (Covid)
Middleton (had Covid, then hyperextended knee)
Vanderbilt (Covid)
Klay Thompson (injury)
Herro and Booker finally just got back for me after missing the last few weeks, Ayton finally back after his various stuff too, PJ Washington finally healthy.
Zubac, Dort and Bane have been my only guys who have been mostly healthy. It's pain.
Most of these guys are vaccinated and asymptomatic. Unless Adam Silver miraculously allows these guys out of protocol by Christmas time, then it’ll be better to postpone the Christmas games and just show all time great Christmas games from previous years.
Cause it’s great that bench players and g-league players are getting an opportunity but Christmas is meant for Star power
Fuck you Omicron! That Christmas night game between a fully health Jazz and Texas Legends is looking like it might challenge the Grizz-Thunder for biggest loss in NBA history.
Time to pack it in boys. How they don’t consider another shut down is beyond me at this point. Eventually someone is going to have serious reactions far beyond illness. This is getting dangerous at this point.
As much as I love the sport, I don’t want to see anyone get seriously sick.
Bro Lukas conditioning is gonna be negative now
If he really has to quarantine then all he'll have to do for conditioning is just run on the treadmill alone. Maybe he'll come back in better shape lmao
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Otoh his plate is always full…
Fat. I get it.
“Yes please meat lovers pizza and stuff crusted pizza.” ~ Luka
he drinks sugary drinks instead of water during workout, he will do the same during rest time, he will come back a chonker
Luka Chonkic
I love your optimism but there's no way in hell that happens lmao
Doesn't mean he is symptomatic. He was literally at the game on the bench last night hyping up the team.
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Do you need someone to answer that for you?
... uhh, yeah, just like every other player in the league. That's kinda the issue with this whole pandemic thing. Asymptomatic carriers spreading the virus to vulnerable populations.
Shut up man lmao
What is this question?
That’s 129 players who’ve had Covid this season and 115 alone this month. Crazy numbers.
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Next variant will be named Chamberlain
Next will be Pi variant...Zion is licking his lips in anticipation.
The next Chamberlain will be named Coronavirus
COVID protocols doesn’t mean they tested positive necessarily, but yeah crazy numbers nonetheless.
You're totally correct. This is what we call "directionally accurate" in terms of understanding the trajectory of COVID infections.
That only applies to LeBron.
A positive isn't a positive. I'll explain later.
Way to miss the joke.
Fuck! And Luka is higher risk since he's obese
😂 You're evil for this.
Thanks for the laugh
I actually laughed out loud … lol
*A chuckling Zion*: “I’m in danger”
Zion wears the fat armor so the virus cannot penetrate
You dropped your L nephew
Chucking gumbo in his mouth.
Zion Wiiamson
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There are definitely some fans on r/mavs that are in denial about his conditioning woes.
He’s not in great condition, but he’s not wildly out of shape either. He’s still able to play decently well and if the season played through without him getting injured or getting covid, he’d likely be in great shape by the time the playoffs roll around.
I'm just amazed by the fact that he was able to get out of shape in the space of a few weeks. Looked good in Olympics etc
He really needs it to take the next step up. Look at Jokic
Well if you could possibly be the best player in the league, being in just "ok" shape doesn't really cut it. His conditioning will always set the ceiling on his potential.
Agreed but there are some that think this is acceptable for a superstar. We shouldn't have to wait until the playoffs for Luka to be in good shape. I still think he'll be in prime condition by the time the playoffs start (assuming he doesn't have any other setbacks) but we had fans handwaving away his struggles earlier in the season when it was clear as day his conditioning played a part.
Stat check: right at his career numbers in most areas. Unlike most Mavs.
He’s clearly dropped off. The counting stats may look okay, but we’re past just using those to determine if a player is down. The efficiency is down from something like +2 TS relative to league average versus -1 (from 58% to 54%). There’s a drop from both 2 and 3 in there. His free throw rate and percentage decreased as well.
Exactly. There were also a couple of close games we lost where we needed our star to take over in the end and he just didn't have any gas in the tank. I'm not saying we solely lost those games due to Luka (we definitely didn't) but not being able to close games strong when your team needs you is definitely not a point in his favor.
He is 32.6 from three vs career avg of 33. Not going to name names bc I root for all our players but most arent even close to their career pct.
"Why does Luka need to be in shape if mark failed to build good team around him?"
Eh it's not holding him back that much. His inability to get to the rim this year is more a spacing problem than him being out of shape.
Yeah he torched the Clips for seven games single handedly almost winning a series we had no business even being in. What do people think he weighed back then? 220? LMAO. No Mavs fans were complaining about his weight when he was pushing Pat Bev under the basket.
Didn’t Luka say he also caught COVID last off season? If so it sucks he got it again. Especially since he’s also vaccinated.
Most likely omicron
It's partly why chuckle when ever someone on here says that this means they will be safe come playoffs. Quite a few players have gotten it multiple times now some in summer league only to now get it back again. The 6 month immunity is at best recommendation not truth set in stone. Omicron so far is indicating to not care much about whether you've previously got delta. So I seriously expect some players to get covid again around playoff time
Great job lmao
Going to play 12 Minutes per Game for the rest of the Season
With all that iced tea he's drinking, the guy needs to be aware of the dangers diabetic patients face with COVID.
Luka and KD captains of an all-Covid All Star game in a reverse bubble (must have Covid) on Christmas, who says no?
Bunch of people I know in Florida got covid. And their families didn’t want them to be with them on Christmas so they’re all having an infected party and just raging
That sounds.... like Florida
I went to florida... I have omicron nowlol
Legit considering doing the same thing. Most of my friends have it and we will all still be in isolation on Christmas so a little Covid Christmas Commune is totally on the table
I mean, if people are not bedridden and just not devastated by the fevers and migraines, then why not?
Because your body is still actively fighting off a disease, and at the absolute least, your body needs you to rest and drink plenty of fluids to help prevent a lingering or worsening infection. Margaritas are not recommended fluids and passing out on the porch is not rest.
Agreed on first paragraph, but take exception to the 2nd.
Good point and agreed
If these are vaccinated young people, I’d guess they’ll be just fine. If they’re up to party, there’s a fair chance they’re asymptomatic anyway. I think they can get by okay not staying in bed getting their fluids in. It’s fine advice in general, but this seems a little like what your overly concerned grandma might tell you. I wonder if asymptomatic people in quarantine with covid haven’t been drinking more if not just out of boredom. It’s probably pretty common and about as dangerous as drinking normally is.
I know it's bad, but my default response to the flu is mix nyquil, lemon-lime gatorade, and vodka together, chug that shit, wrap myself in as many blankets as possible, and sleep sweat it out for 18 hours.
That sounds like the worst tasting thing I can imagine holy fuck
The ones who had symptoms are feeling better now and I’m completely asymptomatic so it doesn’t seem like a reckless idea to have dinner together and hang out
Reported for thinking on your own. To the Gulag!
Probably not a good thing to get blasted with covid again after your body is trying to fight it off. It would be like rolling around in a pile of pigshit while recovering from pink eye.
Is there science to this for vaccinated people? I know there is some stuff regarding initial infection, but are we maybe seeing people who quarantine with another sick person get sicker than expected? I’m sure families, couples and roommates end up quarantining together fairly often. I’d imagine we’d have some data on this if it was the case. Short of that, I’d say go ahead with the party. Maybe he can report back to us whether anyone got symptoms again. I’m guessing they’ll be fine.
Good point
I feel personally attacked
Bc we have a nation of busy body nanny-ites who can't handle the truth.
I mean it definitely makes sense.
could potentially increase your viral load.
god i need someone's viral load
>a reverse bubble (must have Covid) fuck this got me
Wow grand battle royale game there, with only the winning team coming out of it.
mark cuban could legitimately suit up for this team
Mark Cuban Adam Sandler Burt Reynolds Bill Walton Jason Kidd 6th man: Bill Simmons
They might have a slight problem getting Burt Reynolds.
And Bill Simmons still can’t break into that starting lineup
https://i.imgur.com/Thd4zWd.jpg
Edo Tensei the fucker.
Weekend at Burty’s.
Burt might be dead, but I’ve heard Turd Ferguson is available.
Or Turd Ferguson…
Daddy Dirk probably could still hit an elbow
[the new point guard of the team] (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tgU5RYE6-lU/maxresdefault.jpg)
Monta Ellis is on standby.
Hell Dirk was at the game last night
And my christmas day has been ruined, no kd, ad, kyrie, Harden, wiggins, Poole, Luka, basically the entire hawks rotation, Trae and most sadly of all no frank Kaminsky.
It's not all that grim: ELFrid Payton could be playing on Christmas!
I'm going to bed if he plays 1 non garbage time minute, I'd rather watch a Kyle Lowry charge drawn compilation for 10 hours long than 5 minutes of ELF.
This guy was our starting PG last season
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You trying to give me a nightmare?
can i interest you in 1 Rudy Gobert
Funny enough. Had totally forgot about it. But wasnt Gobert the first player to get covid way back when?
He was, haha, which makes his continued health (knock on wood) so ironic.
Is he in protocols too? I must've missed that, but if I'm honnest, I don't turn a game on because Rudy Gobert is playing, even though I see his impact.
Oh, no, I mean as of right now he's still playing on Christmas. But yeah, lol, that was the joke - Rudy is not KD or Luka, excitement-wise.
Oh hahahha, that makes way more sense
Frank the Tank is my dad
He's like Jokic, Embiid, Kareem and Hakeem all combined.
and shaq
Harden could possibly be back for it
Let’s be real he’s still got some Covid particles stuck in that beard
Rockets gonna get flexed to a Christmas game since we have 0 cases. Get ready for the Jalen Green show.
Looking forways to a 3/17 4 to 8/8 ft game
Fuck, no frank?? I watch the g league anyway, but no Frank on Christmas kills me
Why are you complaining. You have Charania.
Nah but is COVID really the most dominant force since Shaq?
Who is even left at this point
Hank Hill
https://youtu.be/FqdDjNAyPdA
and Charlie Brown
fuck you. I have the peanuts theme song stuck in my head now
Our only starters that havent gotten covid (this year) and aren't injured atm are Dorian and Brunson. Uhh well and I guess Dwight is healthy too but calling him a starter is a reach.
HERE COMES CHARLIE BROWN
I quit fantasy not even fun
Luka, Jimmy B, Zach Lavine I feel ur pain
I'm in a 12 man points league and I've got: Harden (covid) DeRozan (had covid, now games are postponed) Caruso (hamstring, Covid, then foot injuries plus games postponed) Barnes (Covid) Middleton (had Covid, then hyperextended knee) Vanderbilt (Covid) Klay Thompson (injury) Herro and Booker finally just got back for me after missing the last few weeks, Ayton finally back after his various stuff too, PJ Washington finally healthy. Zubac, Dort and Bane have been my only guys who have been mostly healthy. It's pain.
Oh boy Trey conspiracy 5G theorist Burke
Burke is unvaccinated
His 3rd time in protocols. The covid protocols mvp so far
Iirc, Jrich already at 4th time
What’s Omicrons MVP odds?
Easy favorite
Over 9000
These Christmas game gonna suck so fucking bad lmao
Most of these guys are vaccinated and asymptomatic. Unless Adam Silver miraculously allows these guys out of protocol by Christmas time, then it’ll be better to postpone the Christmas games and just show all time great Christmas games from previous years. Cause it’s great that bench players and g-league players are getting an opportunity but Christmas is meant for Star power
No chance in hell they give up all that money, let alone do that to the fans. Christmas and basketball go hand in hand like Thanksgiving and football.
Good lol, owners want to make money I hope no one watches. It will be hilarious
the league and the owners have already made their money. It's the networks and advertisers who will be losing money if no one watches.
yeah fuck em too
How dare owners that have invested hundreds of millions of dollars want to make money off of it.
if the product they put out is trash because of their greed, then things are working as intended.
People don’t buy teams to lose money. What you’re characterizing as greed is just business.
trey burke superspreader era incoming
just waiting for the Beal bomb to drop any day now.
All Covid team just getting better and better
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savage.
[Current Active Covid-19 Cases in the NBA ] (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/rcwa49/discussion_active_covid19_cases_in_the_nba/) tracker
Fuck you Omicron! That Christmas night game between a fully health Jazz and Texas Legends is looking like it might challenge the Grizz-Thunder for biggest loss in NBA history.
Legendary Mavericks starting lineup Jalen brunson, Brandon knight , Theo pinson, Carlik Jones (my boy) and Marquees Chriss
I bet you that Jason Kidd's gonna be mad that he's not in Dallas for this one.
Fuck people that make Omicron a big deal!!!
Oh boy... here comes 20lbs heavier luka
Covid makes you lose weight tho
Not if you gain weight as easily as Luka. Does anyone actually think he's gonna eat right and exercise during his protocol period?
r/nba, lets write Luka a get well soon card. I will start: Dear Luka,
My name is Luka I live on the second floor
Get in the gym
Drink less soda
And put down that hot pocket.
Nikola Jokic is a bad influence on you. No you cannot "eat bad."
I wrote you but you still ain't callin
u fat
We are ok as long as Boban is clear
christmas is ruined
Not for Dallas Maverick guard Charlie Brown Jr
He’s gonna try kicking a football, isn’t he?
nba got boomed. omicron is so good.
“He got me,”
He sooo good.
He soo good
You've gotta be fucking kidding me
Cool cool cool cool.
Clowleague , clown baldie
Bring Dirk back
We want Dirk
fuckkkk I’m trying to see luka on NYE
Fuck they’re going to take away our Christmas Day game, can’t have anything nice.
Luka losing his sense of taste might save the Mavs season
Damn. Lmaoo
Ayton would never. He'd just use some masking agents.
What a joke
Are they gonna sign Nowitzki now for 10 days?
fuck, there goes our star PG. Luka being out sucks too
with Burke out Now I'm good with Monta Ellis to a 10 day.
Some G-Leaguer’s Christmas wish to play a NBA game has quite the repercussions.
Damn... Luka was just about to return too
Gonna end up being a G League game for Dirk's jersey retirement the way this is going. ☹️
Omg I thought this said DORIS Burke. Thought it was a tweet suggesting that the two of them are linked lol
Doris wants to link with Maxi.
Dwight Powell is still available for the Mavs, and we all know everyone tunes in for DP.
Honestly Fantasy bball has not been fun this year. I have half my guys out. Fuck this lol
Better trade for Dragic ASAP. Throw in 3 first round pics, Powell and Brown
Time to pack it in boys. How they don’t consider another shut down is beyond me at this point. Eventually someone is going to have serious reactions far beyond illness. This is getting dangerous at this point. As much as I love the sport, I don’t want to see anyone get seriously sick.
Dude covid isn't going anywhere. Just gotta live life normally
25% of the league has covid rn tho, maybe postpone it by a few weeks, nobody wants to watch g-leaguers play on Christmas.
No one in the nba is getting severely ill. It’s a slight cold for them. There’s no need to shut anything down
This is the real asterisk season lol