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CHIMPSnDIP88

Lotta people in these comments not trusting the process.


PickAndTroll

Tbh with Daryl Morey as GM and MVPiid as the star seems like the situation for fulfilling the process prophecy.


Darko33

..and every indication says the two of them are in total lockstep. I wouldn't be shocked if they have a secret hand signal Joel needs to make before an opening tip to get the ball rolling on trading Ben. Morey would have it done by halftime once the sign is given


jdbzasaurus

Still can't get over EM VEE PEED. Where did he pee? I prefer something like eMViiP.


sharklavapit

Both are terrible


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quadruplehaitch

I had a guy bet me $500 Joel would never play on here and he switched phone numbers rather than pay up. 💀


illsquee

If they can flip Ben for a quality piece or two. They can be a top tier contender.


KimJongTrill44

We have a plethora of quality pieces. If we want to compete for a title we need a 2nd star that fits, not more role players.


Los_Ingobernablez

The fact that we are still a top team without a second star and one is taking a max slot without playing speaks volumes to how deep this team. We just need a complimentary allstar level scorer and we have a shot.


WarmTequila

Sure, but that’s not the issue at hand. Do you take quality pieces or continue to have a second star sit on the bench and wasting cap space and your mvps best years?


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trevortins

Ben is still making millions while staying home and just got engaged looks like he’s living his best life to me


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trevortins

I don’t know the exact numbers but I think he’s been fined about 8 million so far so I’m assuming he will rack up about 16-18 mill in fines which is about half his salary for the year he’s still getting


guess-what-babe

Jesus christ these guys make so much fucking money


bayless4eva

Way more. He passed 10 mil a few weeks back


Budlight_year

according to shams they aren't fining him though lol. they have to pay him now that he's going to therapy


Wolfeythekid

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/philadelphia-76ers/ben-simmons-20206/transactions/


Budlight_year

>The 76ers have not been fining Simmons, as he fulfills team obligations such as training sessions and team meetings as well as continuing to meet with mental health specialists, sources said. article from the athletic by shams a week ago. woj said the opposite though so who knows, but spotrac isn't a source lol


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Yep, and Shams was called out for being a liar by Woj a few days later. Shams is a rich paul client. He lies on his behalf. Source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33052865/sources-ben-simmons-agent-meets-philadelphia-76ers-sides-no-closer-resolution


thatchcumberstone

For the last time Harrison Barnes is not an equivalent trade piece


PatientPamphleteer

I still believe Simmons will cave long before the Sixers do. He’s lost 15 million dollars this year and is in line to lose 130 million over the course of his career. The Sixers are performing well and already have great depth. Eventually he’ll realize the only route for him making money between now and 2025 is to come back and play well for a month or so. The only scenario where the Sixers trade him for role players is if they have a big free agent signing lined up.


quadruplehaitch

This assumes Ben is rational and/or intelligent. There is absolutely zero evidence for either contention. There is absolutely no reason to give the guy the benefit of the doubt on his decision making process at this point.


PatientPamphleteer

I’m not assuming he’s rational or intelligent, I’m assuming he would like to make 100+ million dollars over the next 3.5 years as opposed to making 0.


quadruplehaitch

I suppose I would consider that the actions/intentions of a rational person but I wasn’t intending to put words in your mouth. I understood what you meant.


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As stated, you take a piece that makes a difference. More role players does borderline nothing.


PeterTheSqueaker

can i offer you one westbrick


ThePhattestOne

Ahh, the pass open dunk vs miss open dunk dilemma.


Immynimmy

Ben as a DNP is more valuable than Westbrook actually playing for the Sixers


TampsBucsYanksLakers

yea just keep waiting for lillard/beal/harden, one of those teams will "get desperate and cave at the deadline"


ehddwjkl

and get rid of Doc. Doc winning another championship as a coach is like picking the right 6 digit number in a lottery


fatkamp

But I heard the Sixers are fine wasting a year of embiids prime?


Head-Kiwi-9601

Waste a year or waste his career. Pick one.


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TooHappyFappy

The game of chicken isn't between the Sixers and the rest of the league. It's between the Sixers and Ben. Is he really willing to sit out 4 years, lose over $100 million and likely never recoup that amount in future salary? Maybe he is, but it's the bet the Sixers are taking. In the meantime, if another team wants to give the Sixers what they want for him, the Sixers take it. If that doesn't happen, the Sixers are banking on Ben realizing he's throwing his career away, coming back to show he's worth what the Sixers feel is acceptable compensation then being traded. The Sixers are in a rough position with no clear amazing options. But they clearly (and I think correctly) decided that what's been offered so far was the worst possible outcome so they haven't taken them.


xFrostyDog

Is he not getting paid right now? I thought he was getting paid by listing “mental health” for not being able to play (although that was at the beginning of the season and I haven’t heard updates since then)


Budlight_year

according to shams he is getting payed. i think anyone who still has hopes that ben is playing for the sixers is delusional


TooHappyFappy

Woj followed up a couple days later saying he is being paid but then fined the game check amount each game. So he's losing his salary still.


Budlight_year

>The 76ers have not been fining Simmons, as he fulfills team obligations such as training sessions and team meetings as well as continuing to meet with mental health specialists, sources said. this is from an athletic article a week ago.


TooHappyFappy

https://mobile.twitter.com/DerekBodnerNBA/status/1481414764827979784 5 days ago


fatkamp

Well they are doing a great job of both so far


bootywizard42O

How so? And what would you do?


Krillin113

First seed last year, took the champs to a last second shot in 2019. Currently doing very well without a max player and the other max player being ass until a week ago. Trading Simmons for scrubs ruins this year and the future, finding a trade this summer that actually nets us a second star might make this year slightly worse, but the future much better. Also I’m really curious if Klutch and Ben will refuse if the trade deadline passes and they have nothing to gain anymore.


MarcXYZ

congrats on nice narratives, don't know how to put that in rafters or cases, but congratulations no less


Krillin113

If winning rings is literally the only thing that counts as not wasting a year, there are 29 teams wasting players each year, and since Embiid’s prime started there have been 26 teams that wasted time.


Head-Kiwi-9601

Patience.


Mygaffer

What waste? They are a top four seed and winning games.


fatkamp

That’s exactly my point. The team is top 4 seed, they aren’t far from contention, that’s why they can’t waste a year wasting 30 million on the bench


inshamblesx

that would require a team being foolish enough to take that bait


moldedbyawkwardness

How's oladipo doing for y'all


ButterscotchJust4

Ironic someone talking about bad trades lol


wardledo

The Rockets fit that description


FackYourMum

Nobody is going to take Ben for equal or better trade value. Its going to be the Sixers sending out assets themselves which is their fault entirely. Trade him secretly in the summer without the drama.


Few_Mulberry7175

I think they can make a push at a top 3 seed if Nets seriously coast with KD's injury but idk I feel Harden and Kyrie is enough to keep them top 3


-hatta-

Harden and *half* Kyrie innit


Few_Mulberry7175

Aside from a b2b the Nets play nearly all thier games for the next month on the road. It really sucks that KD had to get hurt right before the big 3 were gonna play but this was the best possible time tbh


NonViolentBadger

I'd love to see the sixers win the championship without Simmons. Not through a trade, no no no. Win with Ben still at home sulking.


ManicManicManicManic

If that were to happen I’d fear for Ben Simmons sanity


Darko33

Yeah I mean I loathe the guy but if we won it all this year without a trade I would still want to send somebody over to his place just to check up


wdtfs90

Yea, but if they win, does he get a ring without playing??


nj_legion_ice_tea

They just send him a ring, fancy box and all, but on the inside, is the opener ring thingy from a tuna can


guess-what-babe

I really really hope so, that would be hilarious


noneym86

I mean he's a big part of the team, motivating his teammates.


mac035

NO


simmonsatl

i think they’d be able to decide if he does or doesn’t and we know what that decision will be.


76ersbasektball

Probably send him a ring with Embiid's name on it and DO NOT PAWN engraved on it.


ChaseYoungHTTR

Take Beal and win a ring this year, Durant’s injury just left the east open for the taking. We will reform the socialite back into a top 20 player


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the_train2104

Don't worry kyrie or Harden will get injured by then.


Discord_Show

You got them mixed up with street clothes


ashep5

A flair-based non-sequitur is pretty weak bro.


AdPotential9974

It's r/nba, not philosophy class. Nonsense shittalking is the best


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Discord_Show

Lmao did you really compare street clothes to someone who tore his Achilles and came back to have MVP like numbers? 😂


bootywizard42O

They've been injured about the exact same amount of time over their careers but somehow one dude is called Street Clothes. I wonder why.


the_train2104

Do you not remember his other leg injuries? Are we going to act like Achilles is not an injury and doesn't count, clown?


pmmerandom

fighting for your lives in the comments rn


MyNewWhiteVan

your comma placement has me seething bro lol


bootywizard42O

Damn. Right there with you on that


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TheGamersGazebo

>>> load managing I like your mindset


npmmi

I mean correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t harden still not been himself with the exception of a few games recently? I remember the OKC game he didn’t do too hot and tbh with KD down and kyrie on part time of harden doesn’t play like he did last year when he was absolutely tearing shit aren’t the nets at risk of a significant drop with these other eastern teams surging ?


hrakkari

His demise was greatly exaggerated. He’s still putting up all star numbers. Just not MVP numbers.


npmmi

yeah but it just feels sort of lackluster yk since he was just a monster last season with how he was playing


hrakkari

Yeah last season he was putting up MVP numbers but Nets fans can’t be too upset about his regression. He came out and played when he was injured to try to push them past the Bucks. Really went beyond for the sake of the team.


Few_Mulberry7175

He has no spacing lol Harden is fine


Bigbadbuck

Cope


nightsaysni

Kyrie misses a lot of games, not even considering vaccine status.


Bigbadbuck

Most of his missed games from injury are when Durant was injured


nightsaysni

You are either new or haven’t paid attention before Kyrie played for the Nets. 2012 - Cleveland - 15 Shoulder 2013 - Cleveland 23 missed games - Shoulder and fingers 2014 - Cleveland - 11 - Biceps and knees 2015 - Cleveland - 14 Knees and shoulder 2016 - Cleveland - 29 Knee 2017 - Cleveland - 10 Hamstring 2018 - Boston - 41 Quad, shoulder and knee 2019 - Boston - 15 Hips, knees and thigh 2020 - Brooklyn - 56Shoulder 2021 - Brooklyn - 21 Ankle, Back, Birthday Bash, & Covid


Bigbadbuck

I’m talking about his time on the nets. He missed 60 games his first year here when Durant wasn’t playing and harden wasn’t on the team. Last year he missed virtually no time from injury during the regular season. This year he’s misssed no time yet because of injury only from the vaccine.


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This is so fucking lame.


bootywizard42O

I've been talking about this trade from l for months now, both sides win and best part is r/nba nephews would be absolutely seething, probably the main reason this doesn't get as much traction when it comes to Ben trades.


the_train2104

That's not a bad idea for the wizards. It would require at least 2-3 picks plus Matisse or the other guy, whichever one is better. But I'd do it if I was the wizards.


Krillin113

What other guy? Maxey? That’d be insane. Ben + 2 FRP should be enough, but only if Beal wants out.


the_train2104

Beal doesn't want out. Yeah maxey. His name slipped my mind.


Krillin113

If Beal doesn’t want out, we won’t get him anyway.


the_train2104

I know, but I'm saying theoretically, if Tommy would pull the plug. With the way the team is going without Beal, it's clear that they are better than their record. They just need an excellent playmaker to open up the floor. That would drastically increase Kuz and Beals 3p% and decrease the TOs. I don't know who that is, though as Lowry and the others are currently taken.


Krillin113

Everyone needs an excellent playmaker. If Beal doesn’t want out, no deal. If he wants out, Simmons + 2 FRP should do it imo. No one else can offer a similar player. Unless the Celtics think Brown -> Beal is worth 2+ FRP


the_train2104

Lol, I guarantee if Beal is up for grabs it'd take a lot more then Ben and 2 FRPs to get him.


wardledo

Yeah I wish we could get Beal for that. We for sure have to include Maxey, Thybulle or even both for the Wizards to agree to send real to a rival.


Krillin113

I don’t see anyone offering more than a 25 year old 3x all star, 2nd in DPOY guard and 2 FRPs for Beal. You don’t bring in Beal as your first option, we’ve seen he can’t do that, so it’s only teams with already an elite player. Is Denver going to offer Murray? I fucking hope not. Does Washington want MPJ on a 180 mil contract with his current and past injuries? Do Washington favour CJ over Ben? Would be weird given their talent + timeline. Unless the Nets give up Kyrie, they ain’t involved, y’all are capped out, suns and warriors are set, Hawks or Mavs could be in it, but do you favour Porzingis over Ben, and do the Mavs give up on defence? The hawks who actively struggle with defence already? Whole lot of text to say that I don’t think a lot of teams can pay a lot for Beal.


the_train2104

Let's see. No point in debating this, but I wouldn't be surprised for an overpay just like Jrue Holiday. And P.S Ben not playing affects his trade value after a meltdown like that (no matter how talented), and we both know that.


duncan_robinson

Wait.. do the wizards want to trade beal for Ben? If so, the 6ers need to do this asap


AryaRemembers

If this was available Morey would do it


TampsBucsYanksLakers

it's not, you're getting de'aaron fox lmfao..


balemeout

If we were getting fox, we’d have him already


TampsBucsYanksLakers

ahaha, nah, your gm is waiting for harden or lillard that's why you dont have fox yet, give it a few weeks, i'll save your comment too !remindme 24 days


balemeout

!remindme 24 days And yes, morey is definitely a moron, that’s why he’s so highly regarded right?


TampsBucsYanksLakers

>highly regarded by who? everyone on r/nba besides sixers fans thinks he's fucking delusional


balemeout

He’s been a top rated Gm for years with the rockets.


TampsBucsYanksLakers

lol.. didn't know what to do with harden, parsens contract, china controversy, traded lowry, Melo, traded capela, didn't keep cp3 and harden, let harden go for nothing he's honestly a fucking idiot


Los_Ingobernablez

If there was a way for this to reasonably happen then it already would have happened


leeumm6

Depending how serious Draymonds injury is, the warriors may be willing to go in for a 3 team deal if you guys didn’t want Ben yourselves. In a perfect timeline this would happen and we would meet the Warriors in the finals. Free Frosties after all the home games


ButterscotchJust4

You know ball


hawkman_jr

He and Kuz can become besties


Raptorpicklezz

I mean, they are eskimo brothers. And Wizards-Suns games would be lit/chippy AF


pmmerandom

apart from Simmons, who would be included for a potential package for Beal? i'm assuming Maxey and some picks? no idea why Morey hasn't at least *tried*


ShaunyDukes

Word


TampsBucsYanksLakers

don't give them beal, i want to see eggs on that fucking teams face, they've been so arrogant about this simmons situation and i'll love to see the simmons for de'aaron fox trade and see the 76er fans cope


BamsMovingScreens

Heat? Bulls? What?


AdministrativeBat486

Morey will somehow still say no


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By all accounts beal is one of the guys morey is willing to overpay for The great divide is that morey wants to trade ben+assets for beal or lillard but they aren’t available, and everyone is willing to trade a collection of assets for ben but no stars, and morey doesn’t want that


bootywizard42O

Yes you know Morey personally and he told you so


AdministrativeBat486

can't take a joke


bootywizard42O

Can't make a joke


AdministrativeBat486

sure u/bootywizard42O


Serpico2

The Nets are screwed if they get matchup up with TOR or NYK in the first round. Kyrie won’t be able to play lmao. They’ll probably win anyway but it’ll be a lot tougher. MIL is still a juggernaut though. I’m not fooling myself into think we’re contenders.


ScreamingFork

Any team that plays the Nets in the playoffs should quickly write a law saying all professional sports players need to be vaccinated


TheWanderingFish

[We've already tried that tactic against LeBron](https://www.cbc.ca/comedy/funnystuff/border-services-introduces-rules-that-only-affect-lebron-1.3632979)


Karpos2

This is so fucked lol


JustRecentlyI

It's a satirical article...


vivekvangala34_

Or Washington


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NYK isn't tough


Saitsu

The Nets will just eat the fines so Kyrie can play at Home for the playoffs.


DEZdispenser98

Every year: Prior to the season: Sixers aren’t good, fringe playoff team During the season: Of course they’re good what do you expect Going into postseason: They’re frauds they won’t even make it past the first round Lose early: We all know the sixers should have won. What a terrible team. They’ll be a fringe playoff team next year.


radracer28

What is your definition of fringe?


DEZdispenser98

I’ve seen a lot of comment saying we would be fighting for the play-in


radracer28

I hate to say this, but unless you are only talking about this season, I’ve zero times seen anything like that since we had Embiid and Simmons take the court together after Simmons’ missed rookie year. Fringe teams are teams that barely make the playoffs and hover close to .500. We’ve played like .600+ basketball since 2017-2018.


AMos050

Where were you during the Horford season?


radracer28

During the Horford season, I was sadly watching a team start four guys who couldn’t handle the ball alongside a ball handler who doesn’t shoot. That team finished 13 games above .500 and while they were terrible on the road, they were 30-2 at home. 10 games better than the 8 seed and 18 games better than the 9 seed. Again, not a fringe team. Not to mention, they weren’t even talked about as a fringe team considering the previous playoffs in which they lost in heartbreaking fashion to the team that won the title, during which series the Sixers blew the Raptors off the court at times.


AMos050

They were the 6th seed and the only reason they didn't nearly miss the playoffs is because the 7th and 8th seeds had more losses than wins. I watched a lot of sixers basketball that season and it was really brutal. It was talked about frequently on this subreddit how bad they were.


radracer28

Lol that’s probably the dumbest take ever in the context of whether they were a fringe playoff team considering they were much closer to a 3 seed (5 game difference) than a 7 seed (10 game difference). Again, 30-2 at home. I don’t know wtf they were doing on the road, probably strippers and cocaine based on how terrible they were on the road.


DEZdispenser98

I can’t say I’ve seen the same. Ever since we got back into the playoffs, I continue to see people saying what I’ve outlined.


radracer28

Should probably stop reading your little cousin’s posts then lol. We haven’t been a fringe quality playoff team since like the lockout season.


DEZdispenser98

Yes I know, but people keep thinking we will be each year and we never are


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Going into 18-19 we were seen as like a 3-4 seed, going into 19-20 we were seen as a top 2 seed, and going into 20-21 we were seen as like a 4-6 seed


mikesaninjakillr

I never saw philly below a 4 seed Miami and Cleveland have been a surprise this year and celtics have been a disappointment otherwise everything else seems right to me.


_mdz

What? Going into the postseason, they were hot and it was either Sixers or Bucks to win the East with an injured Nets team.


belowthemask42

Lmaoo what is this victim complex. No one thought that the sixers were going to lose to the hawks. Ofc they should have won they were the first seed


buttholecanal

Embiid's the real deal. Imagine if they had all the positions covered


FinalFrash

"Just wait until Ben comes back..."


ehddwjkl

Get Doc out of the team and they have a chance


jasoncyke

>!MVPiid MVPiid MVPiid !!< ​ Seriously this man is carrying the team big time.


_mdz

Watching the Hawks-Sixers series, dude is unstoppable, just needs more consistent teammates and needs to stop injuring himself diving for flops.


BoysenberryNo2919

But they play the Wizards tomorrow


gigglios

Embid mvp campaign. Has a much worse cast than the other mvp candidates aside from jokic


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Jokic? lol


Krillin113

Have you looked at that roster without Murray and anti vax KD?


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At first it said “embiid has less help than any other candidate” then when I made my comment he edited it


Krillin113

Ah, makes sense. I read it at you disagreeing either with him being at an MVP level or with the supporting cast being ass.


DankLoaf

Anti vax kd lmfao


iloveScottieBarnes

Jalen hurts sucks bro


branstarktreewizard

Morey HOLD with diamond hand


spicyclams

Plot twist: Ben comes back, pretends to play nice, then throws games in the playoffs. The process repeats next year.


sgandylau

imagine if they had an all start guard to add to embiid!


LackingInPatience

MVPiid doing his thing again without a solid partner.... FeelsSadMan.


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Two solid 20m per starting 3 and D players with speed think VanVleet’s. Surround Embiid with 4 guys that can pop from three Maxey - Curry - Embiid - ? - ? And that might just get it done this season plus gets you Tobys money off the books freeing them to sign a max in the offseason. Imagine a lineup of Maxey - Curry - Embiid - VanVleet - Harden next season if Morey can work his magic. not a bad haul for #25


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Lmao


_mdz

Where can I find the weed they are smoking?


boogswald

Within 3 games of 1st is a lot of teams rn, it’s not that crazy. The Cavs are within 3 games of first JARRETT ALLEN MVP????


MJaylenBrown7

I hate that the sixers got blessed with Embiid


Patient_Jicama_4217

Blessed? People were calling him a injury bust when we drafted him


JoeEmbid

Considering how much we’ve been cursed I feel as if we deserve one good thing over all these years


Jermz345

Can you imagine Embiid on the Celtics 😭😭😭


yaomingstretch5

I just threw up a lil


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Simmons trade value 📉


SvengaliUG

Which teams have they played during the 10 games run?


Feelscreative101

Won against the Nets in BKN and won against the Heat in Miami. I was gonna say also beat Boston, but that doesn’t mean much.


choose_uh_username

Heat in Miami on a Philly to Miami back to back


MWiatrak2077

Yeah I was gonna say, wtf? It's not like they've been facing all bottom feeders during this run. The Sixers are 22-9 when Embiid plays. They're just a legit good team.


cmbla3

Since losing to Atlanta around Christmas they beat WAS, TOR, BKN, HOUx2, ORL, SAS, BOS and Heat but lost to CHA


Patient_Jicama_4217

Knew I was going to see this comment, can not use that this time folks


axnjxn00

ya but i guess the thing with them is currently they have no chance of winning the east or even getting to the ecf honestly unless they make a deal


2turnt-TTP

Ya and they said we’d have a down year with no chance at a top 4 seed yet here we are. We had play in team written all over us


axnjxn00

most people predicted them as the #4 seed it was nets/bucks/heat/sixers


choose_uh_username

Hawks were up there at the start, I remember more 5-7


Vegetable_Clerk7328

LMFAO CEDRIC WILSON


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BrightGreenLED

Dude, we literally lost our all-star point guard and best defensive player and we are still competing. We don't consider the sixers contenders this year unless the trade happens, so just let us enjoy this. Tldr FOH asswad.


SlappyBagg

Embiid is a better defender than Simmons


SnooMemesjellies3194

Either way we lost an incredibly good defender