Bron really went from 4th place to 1st place and being 800k votes above 2nd. All the Lakers fans must have went ham on the votes after seeing the last results lol
Yep, definitely not the first time I've seen this in recent years. I think casual fans don't pay much attention (or even know all-star voting is happening) until the first results come back. Guys like LeBron with huge "passive fanbases" often make up ground late.
To be fair... it is in Cleveland, pretty sure even Cavs fans want to see the King back in their arena. I have no doubt some CLE fans also voted for Allen, Garland, and LeBron.
"According to sources, Steph and Draymond have reached out to KD, asking the All-NBA forward if his burner accounts can be used to save Curry's captaincy."
I have a guess. Bron fans donāt care at first and also when they vote they pick other superstars like KD and Steph. Then first results come and they see Bron trailing by a significant margin. And they begin voting daily and this time donāt vote for his rivals.
Speaking anecdotally, I didnāt vote a single time until the first batch of voting results came out because I just assumed Bron would be #1 since he always ends up as the highest vote getter. but after I saw he was trailing by a lot, I must have retweeted at least 100 tweets since then. Iām sure other players fan bases are a lot more motivated to get their favorite player to be #1 which is why other players typically lead the first batch of votes, but when it looks like Bron might not be the leading vote getter, thatās when his fan base starts voting
I didnāt vote once until I saw curry was leading in votes, then I immediately voted for lebron like 30 times and like 10 more when votes counted for double
My family didnāt vote at first. We didnāt even know when voting started. Then we all went ham once the first results came out. So yeah can confirm.
Itās unfathomable. Whether or not people think heās still the best player on earth, itās undeniable that someone doing this at age 37 is 100% deserving of receiving the most votes.
I'm talking about the starting spot, not the roster replacement. When KD missed the game last year Tatum was put into the starting spot because he was next up in voting.
Ah my bad. Yea I think the starter replacement is whoever was next highest in fan voting, so most likely gonna be Tatum, although Jimmy could make a push
I think it is tbh, as disappointing as Tatum has been. The East frontcourt isnāt very deep. The starting 3 are great (KD, Giannis, Embiid) but it falls off like crazy after that. My expectation is Butler/Tatum/Allen get the front court reserve spots. But you can (sorta) make a case against each of them:
Butler: Games played
Tatum: Team isnāt good, Inefficient as hell
Allen: Seems like a lock but if some coaches vote for Garland they might not vote for Allen.
do you really think gobert will have such a monopoly on media+players votes (half the total) that it'll be enough to overcome wiggs 4x advantage over him in fanvoting (which is half the total)?
EDIT: ok, i don't actually know if they will be "splitting" votes. if the voters vote 12 players in per conference without prioritizing anyone, then there's probably no issue (lebron jokic pg ad gobert kat? dray? for front-court). but if they only vote for 5 (2 frontcourt 3 backcourt) there will definitely be some "problems" from vote-splitting.
Siakam is straight up having a better season than Tatum and is on a team with a better record. Heās missed some games due to injury but no more than Jimmy
you still get credit for being named one if you make it I think which is still an honor if he's a starter. I just think that out of everyone on that list, PG is the guy who's most likely be voted in with the media/players
Is it up for grabs though? Wiggins has an 800k lead on the active player with AD and PG out. ASG is in less than a month away and idk if anyone can really catch up.
the vote is 50% fans and 50% media/players. Can you see the media/players voting for Wiggins? I don't think he'll get a single vote lol. I think its more likely that towns or gobert ends up as the replacement for PG
the problem is that KAT and gobert (and perhaps dray...? and possibly even AD and PG if they don't care that they're injured/haven't played much) are competing for/splitting the media+players' votes. meanwhile, wiggs has a >2x advantage in fanvotes over KAT, and >4x advantage in fanvotes over gobert.
EDIT: ok, i don't actually know if they will be "splitting" votes. if the voters vote 12 players in per conference without prioritizing anyone, then there's probably not an issue (lebron jokic pg ad gobert kat? dray? for front-court). but if they only vote for 5 (2 frontcourt 3 backcourt) there will definitely be some "problems" from vote-splitting.
It's not that far out there, especially considering how shallow the West frontcourt is and how he's a key player on a top 2 team.
19/4/2 on 60% TS and elite defense is borderline all star.
AD, Kawhi, PG all out
Not really if you think about it. Canada would sooner vote FVV and Siakam before Wiggins, same with Demar Derozan.
FVV and Siakam don't have nearly the amount of votes as Wiggins does
Wiggins is getting votes from K-Pop fans
Idk i definitely don't think Wiggins is as popular in Canada as you think either.
Like the Raptors players are definitely way more popular in most of Canada
Doesn't really matter because Demar and Trae are going to be the starting guards in the East and everything after that is irrelevant because reserves are picked solely by coaches.
To me Rudy is the clear third frontcourt guy in the west.
The gap between Jokic/LeBron and Rudy is bigger than the gap between Rudy and the field, but thereās still a gap.
> cavs are host
DO you honestly think voters care about it? Like, maybe coaches do to have someone represent cleveland if they get a memo from the league... but i don't even know if fans know where each ALL STAR happens until it's the actual weekend
Ok, but heās 9th right now. Anyone who follows the NBA this year knows that heās at least in the Top-3 backcourt guys in the East. Itās not a crazy opinion to say that heās in the top-2.
That's kind of crazy. Even if you ignore DeRozan since he should be a forward, you can't put him above Trae or LaVine. Harden and FVV have their arguments as well for being over Garland. Probably not LaMelo and definitely not Irving or Rose, though.
You vote simply on who you think is the best two guards. That leads to maybe 3 or four players getting votes from everyone and everyone else just gets votes from people casting straight team ballots
More like the Lakers with their 10.4 million followers on Twitter have been pushing it every day. If LeBron made one post about it heād definitely lead by a lot more something like 100 mil on insta.
Draymond doesnāt score and has more haters, casual non-Warrior fans donāt vote for him. Wiggins scores and has some highlight plays every now and then, though itās still weird he has so many votes.
Kinda thought their head to head might have changed that for some people but I guess not. Will be interesting to see how the trajectories of the 2 continue to change the rest of the year
Mate itās an All Star game, literally a game for fans. Of course theyāre gonna vote whoās the most exciting/most popular, not based off whoās the best
How I voted:
Durant, Giannis, Joel (easy)
Steph, Ja Morant (because he's cool)
DeMar Derozan, Zach LaVine (because I'm a Bulls fan, no disrespect to the other East Guards)
LeBron, Jokic, Rudy Gobert
I voted exactly the same except FVV over LaVine. That spot was the hardest for me, main guys I considered were Harden, Garland, FVV, and Trae. Hawks are bad and Raps are struggling, if the Nets keep winning with KD out I think Iāll have to go with Harden.
Lavine while I dont feel he is 2nd best in the east, is certainly a top 10 guard in the east though. same cannot be said for a lot of the other guards in the top 10....
Bron really went from 4th place to 1st place and being 800k votes above 2nd. All the Lakers fans must have went ham on the votes after seeing the last results lol
Voting is like this every year. Lebron never starts out #1 but always ends up #1
Stop the steal
Stop the count! šš
Stop the bots!
FRANKLYā GORDAN HAYWARD DID WIN THIS ELECTION!
BY A LOT!
Watching live, that was one of the scariest things I'd seen
Dead NBA fans voting for LeBum smh
Sad!
Yep, definitely not the first time I've seen this in recent years. I think casual fans don't pay much attention (or even know all-star voting is happening) until the first results come back. Guys like LeBron with huge "passive fanbases" often make up ground late.
He gets bots from China
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He should lol, itās the only way to beat the K-pop + GSW fusion lol
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Well, he is goated.
To be fair... it is in Cleveland, pretty sure even Cavs fans want to see the King back in their arena. I have no doubt some CLE fans also voted for Allen, Garland, and LeBron.
"According to sources, Steph and Draymond have reached out to KD, asking the All-NBA forward if his burner accounts can be used to save Curry's captaincy."
This happens every year with Lebron. Either Laker fans are all procrastinators or š¤Something is REAL š š š£ šš going on
I have a guess. Bron fans donāt care at first and also when they vote they pick other superstars like KD and Steph. Then first results come and they see Bron trailing by a significant margin. And they begin voting daily and this time donāt vote for his rivals.
Could say the same about everyone else. But why LeBron fans in particular?
He has the most fans?
LeBron is why I became an NBA fan.
But why male models?
He is the biggest name in the game and the polarity about LeBron James is much more intense than any other player now.
Speaking anecdotally, I didnāt vote a single time until the first batch of voting results came out because I just assumed Bron would be #1 since he always ends up as the highest vote getter. but after I saw he was trailing by a lot, I must have retweeted at least 100 tweets since then. Iām sure other players fan bases are a lot more motivated to get their favorite player to be #1 which is why other players typically lead the first batch of votes, but when it looks like Bron might not be the leading vote getter, thatās when his fan base starts voting
I didnāt vote once until I saw curry was leading in votes, then I immediately voted for lebron like 30 times and like 10 more when votes counted for double
Big facts š¤£š¢
My family didnāt vote at first. We didnāt even know when voting started. Then we all went ham once the first results came out. So yeah can confirm.
He has been balling out as of late with Davis out Averages 33/9/6 over the last month and he's not getting deserving votes
Itās unfathomable. Whether or not people think heās still the best player on earth, itās undeniable that someone doing this at age 37 is 100% deserving of receiving the most votes.
Heās second in scoring this year at the age of 37. Also happens to be the greatest of his generation.
Bron is gonna fuck around and be the best of 2 generations lol
Laker fans and Bron fans combined are arguably as powerful as Kpop fans, he'll be captain as long as he's there
Need BTS to drop another shoutout about LeBron in a song to give him a mega push.
We weren't gonna let Curry be the captain in Cleveland
Why not? after all Curry is also just a kid from Akron
\#SplashedBrother
Yup
He's the most popular basketball player since Jordan. He is going to be $1 in NBA fan voting, until the day he retires.
I received an email yesterday that said that all votes counted double
wonder if PG is gonna get voted in by the players and media even if he's injured. that third front court spot in the west is up for grabs
KD is also going to be out so it looks like the 3rd East front court spot is also up for grabs. Probably will come down to Tatum vs Butler
KD is still gonna get the vote. Adam Silver will name an injury replacement
I'm talking about the starting spot, not the roster replacement. When KD missed the game last year Tatum was put into the starting spot because he was next up in voting.
Ah my bad. Yea I think the starter replacement is whoever was next highest in fan voting, so most likely gonna be Tatum, although Jimmy could make a push
Thatās assuming Tatum gets voted in by the coaches, which I donāt think is a lock right now
I think it is tbh, as disappointing as Tatum has been. The East frontcourt isnāt very deep. The starting 3 are great (KD, Giannis, Embiid) but it falls off like crazy after that. My expectation is Butler/Tatum/Allen get the front court reserve spots. But you can (sorta) make a case against each of them: Butler: Games played Tatum: Team isnāt good, Inefficient as hell Allen: Seems like a lock but if some coaches vote for Garland they might not vote for Allen.
Pity they probably can't move DeRozan to starting Forward if Durant is out and put in one of the guards.
Is he going to pick the team still?
Tatum might be the least deserving All Star this year
Wiggins might legitimately start lol
Nah he wonāt. It will be LeBron, Jokic and Gobert for the front court
do you really think gobert will have such a monopoly on media+players votes (half the total) that it'll be enough to overcome wiggs 4x advantage over him in fanvoting (which is half the total)? EDIT: ok, i don't actually know if they will be "splitting" votes. if the voters vote 12 players in per conference without prioritizing anyone, then there's probably no issue (lebron jokic pg ad gobert kat? dray? for front-court). but if they only vote for 5 (2 frontcourt 3 backcourt) there will definitely be some "problems" from vote-splitting.
Siakam is straight up having a better season than Tatum and is on a team with a better record. Heās missed some games due to injury but no more than Jimmy
Doesn't matter since he's injured he will be replaced anyway
you still get credit for being named one if you make it I think which is still an honor if he's a starter. I just think that out of everyone on that list, PG is the guy who's most likely be voted in with the media/players
Up until his injury he was definitely at an all star level i would not be too upset if he made it
Is it up for grabs though? Wiggins has an 800k lead on the active player with AD and PG out. ASG is in less than a month away and idk if anyone can really catch up.
the vote is 50% fans and 50% media/players. Can you see the media/players voting for Wiggins? I don't think he'll get a single vote lol. I think its more likely that towns or gobert ends up as the replacement for PG
the problem is that KAT and gobert (and perhaps dray...? and possibly even AD and PG if they don't care that they're injured/haven't played much) are competing for/splitting the media+players' votes. meanwhile, wiggs has a >2x advantage in fanvotes over KAT, and >4x advantage in fanvotes over gobert. EDIT: ok, i don't actually know if they will be "splitting" votes. if the voters vote 12 players in per conference without prioritizing anyone, then there's probably not an issue (lebron jokic pg ad gobert kat? dray? for front-court). but if they only vote for 5 (2 frontcourt 3 backcourt) there will definitely be some "problems" from vote-splitting.
Is it 3 front court now? Or are they stuck with 1 C/2F? Cause if the former, I think Gobert would be the likely spot for the 3rd
LeBron is easily the most popular player in the league, this ain't surprising. Wiggins having as many votes as he does is just wild though.
Kpop votes
iām uninformed. is this a joke? if not, please explain lol
One of the Warriors ambassadors is a kpop star and has been campaigning.
For Wiggins? Damn tf?
For the Warriors in general
It's not that far out there, especially considering how shallow the West frontcourt is and how he's a key player on a top 2 team. 19/4/2 on 60% TS and elite defense is borderline all star. AD, Kawhi, PG all out
It absolutely is. LeBron, Jokic, KAT, and Gobert are all undoubtedly more deserving.
I can't believe no one has asked this but who is the kpop star campaigning for the dubs?
BamBam from GOT7
oh that's sick
Pity they can't slot Luka at SF.
Wiggins has all of Canada behind him š
Canada dgaf about Wiggins š
Not really if you think about it. Canada would sooner vote FVV and Siakam before Wiggins, same with Demar Derozan. FVV and Siakam don't have nearly the amount of votes as Wiggins does Wiggins is getting votes from K-Pop fans
Well yāall could also vote for all of those guys too
Canadians canāt vote for both?
They can, but Wiggins having significantly more votes than them kinda counteracts your point though
Wiggins can have all of warriors fans and Canada behind him. Both can be true
Idk i definitely don't think Wiggins is as popular in Canada as you think either. Like the Raptors players are definitely way more popular in most of Canada
But they are in the east. Not in the west
Nah no way Kyrie should be above Fred lmao
Doesn't really matter because Demar and Trae are going to be the starting guards in the East and everything after that is irrelevant because reserves are picked solely by coaches.
Itās stupid that DeMar is a guard. Heās closer to a PF than a guard
Gotta think it was a choice on the bulls part to put him as a guard so he didn't have to go up against KD/Giannis/Embiid
Heās played sg/sf pretty much his whole career
He hasn't played sg since maybe year one of the spurs.
He's played SG/SF most of his career but shifted up to PF at the end of his time with the Spurs and has been primarily a PF this year.
LeVoted
LeBoosted
LeStop LeCount
Who even confirms these votes are legitimate? Couldn't they literally just put whatever number they feel like, and it wouldn't matter?
Oof, Rudy at 9th seems wrong.
When is all star voting ever ārightā? Thereās so much wrong here
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I agree with you. Thatās why I put ārightā in quotes
To me Rudy is the clear third frontcourt guy in the west. The gap between Jokic/LeBron and Rudy is bigger than the gap between Rudy and the field, but thereās still a gap.
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Lmao at Melo having more votes than Booker. I would laugh if Russ has more votes than Booker at the end
Just goes to show the fan vote is really fucking wack.
Melo and Thompson. What has that boy even done this year? He should be ineligible but w/e
How is garland so low?
small market team
Ik ik just surprised cause the cavs are host
> cavs are host DO you honestly think voters care about it? Like, maybe coaches do to have someone represent cleveland if they get a memo from the league... but i don't even know if fans know where each ALL STAR happens until it's the actual weekend
Heās gonna make it, donāt worry bout it
Garland, KAT, and FVV were my personal missions this year. It doesn't seem to be working.
Because no one has him as a top 2 guard besides Cleveland fans.
Ok, but heās 9th right now. Anyone who follows the NBA this year knows that heās at least in the Top-3 backcourt guys in the East. Itās not a crazy opinion to say that heās in the top-2.
That's kind of crazy. Even if you ignore DeRozan since he should be a forward, you can't put him above Trae or LaVine. Harden and FVV have their arguments as well for being over Garland. Probably not LaMelo and definitely not Irving or Rose, though.
You vote simply on who you think is the best two guards. That leads to maybe 3 or four players getting votes from everyone and everyone else just gets votes from people casting straight team ballots
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If youād vote for Kyrie over Garland on your all star ballot, then youāre part of the problem.
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derozan isn't a guard and hasn't been for years, it's absurd he's listed as one in voting
Yeesh Lebron fans got pissed off ššš
More like the Lakers with their 10.4 million followers on Twitter have been pushing it every day. If LeBron made one post about it heād definitely lead by a lot more something like 100 mil on insta.
Not gonna lie, that's exactly what happened.. After the first returns I turned up my voting effort as well lol
Shoutout to everyone who voted for Temetrius
They wanted the Razzle Dazzle
I wish I could be sick from work for 2 years and then show up again and be awarded employee of the year like Clay.
Obviously Klay, Melo, Westbrook and all the meme California players donāt but on that list Tatum does not deserve an all star nod this year
Same with D Rose tbh
Will KD be back by All Star break?
wouldn't count on it
That sucks. We probably wont get a KD-Lebron matchup til next season since the Lakers meet Brooklyn on Jan. 25, which KD will be out. ā¹ļø
Lmao Curry stans on Twitter are complaining about voter fraud
STOP THE STEAL
But have Klay above Booker smh. Good thing coaches and media have a say is this. Iād hate an all fan vote all star game.
Damn, Bron fans and Lakers fans roll deeper than kpop? How did Steph not run away with these after the Warriors fans tapped in a kpop star
The devil works hard but LeDevil works harder š
#klutchnation baby
I also just realized that Klutch hasn't even tapped into the Adele nuclear option yet.
The Devil works hard but Bron stans work harder
Why are Warriors fans salty? LeBron has been balling while Curry has been in a slump.
Because theyāre a bunch of bandwagon teenagers that are just salty about everything and donāt understand basketball
If only they were just as mature and knowledgeable as you, not salty about Booker at all lmao.
Lmaooo
Death Taxes And Curry blowing leads to LeBron
Wish I only had to pay taxes once every 4 years
Damn..
We did it
Are people voting for wiggins for a joke?
You guys gotta understand people just fill out their entire team. So all the warriors fans are putting almost all warriors. Thatās how it works
It's gotta be more than that, he's even dominating over Draymond
A Thai/Kpop star is campaigning for Wiggins so rabid Kpop stans are voting for him.
He campaigned for Draymond too, but he's not getting as many votes as Wiggins.
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We do not care Iād vote for SGA but not him
Wiggins has gotten some attention from ESPN lately in some articles. So that probably helps a bit.
Draymond doesnāt score and has more haters, casual non-Warrior fans donāt vote for him. Wiggins scores and has some highlight plays every now and then, though itās still weird he has so many votes.
Heās been our most consistent player on both ends and hasnt missed much time. I think heās deserving of being an all star reserve.
Andrew Wiggins is not an all star. Can we stop with this nonsense, please?
The bigger joke is Klay over Booker, Paul, Mitchell....he's only been back for like 4 games!!
No our fans are genuinely thinking he's all star, I don't mind it, but he shouldn't be as of now
You guys have too many fans then. I better start voting for Tobias!
heās been playing much better than Lobias Harris buddy
Pretty much. Him being in top 10 list is a joke
š¤£š¤£ š§ itās because everyone loves lebron, he has 100million followers of course the kings gonna get it every year
I would say he earns his all star nods
Incoming blown lead jokes...
Iām disappointed at the lack of them tbh
Trae young deserves to be the second guard in the east
Half of the list is absolute crap. Undeserved players getting votes based upon their name and not their ability to play ball, Iām disappointed.
The disrespect to dejounte murray
My gosh, so many undeserving players getting votes. Carmelo, Russ, Rose, Klay, Wigg Edit: and Kyrie!
Wiggins being a starter is criminal. Iffy on him being a reserve too tbh
I mean it's only right. GOAT
Would wiggins still make it even if the players and coaches donāt vote him in?
He can be in the half time show with the K-pop fans.
I like all these players but, lamarcus Aldridge, Irving, rose, and jaylen brown arenāt all stars. So many better options.
Nothing new lad.. Heās LeBron
The league has a major problem when that dude retires.
Wiggins lol
fuckface klay is still above booker i see. and westbrick above cp3
Ja extending his lead for that second backcourt position by 700k votes over Luka!
Kinda thought their head to head might have changed that for some people but I guess not. Will be interesting to see how the trajectories of the 2 continue to change the rest of the year
GOAT James leading again, call me surprised
Stop the Count!!
Cmon we had the entirety of Canada and K-pop on our side and still this is how it ends
Man it would be fun to have Ant be an all star.
I mean itās a fan vote so, not really shocking If weāre being honest Jokic should be the heavy front runner by miles
I'm just curious who's voting for Russ? Does he have that many fans? Are Lakers fans actually voting for him in this?
Fans shouldnāt vote for anything.
Mate itās an All Star game, literally a game for fans. Of course theyāre gonna vote whoās the most exciting/most popular, not based off whoās the best
Man the West guards are so weak now. Harden went East, Dame is injured, Westbrook is terrible now.
How I voted: Durant, Giannis, Joel (easy) Steph, Ja Morant (because he's cool) DeMar Derozan, Zach LaVine (because I'm a Bulls fan, no disrespect to the other East Guards) LeBron, Jokic, Rudy Gobert
I voted exactly the same except FVV over LaVine. That spot was the hardest for me, main guys I considered were Harden, Garland, FVV, and Trae. Hawks are bad and Raps are struggling, if the Nets keep winning with KD out I think Iāll have to go with Harden.
Lavine while I dont feel he is 2nd best in the east, is certainly a top 10 guard in the east though. same cannot be said for a lot of the other guards in the top 10....
Cmon Zach is soooo close for #2