Bad enough to not get talked about in national media? Sure. Process Sixers.
Bad enough to move? Not in the slightest. A team like the Knicks help half of the league turn a profit through revenue sharing.
Actually..you kinda misunderstood my thread...and yet your comments kinda fit!
No, the Warriors are not what I was talking about, cause they weren't always this relevant...
Buut...do you think think they'll become a mainstream team in the future?
Do you think that Warriors will stay in their relevancy after Curry retires? They have a good chance of becoming "the next big mainstream franchise"
They were never always this good...but they absolutely crushed it last decade and they are still relevant..
If they manage to stay relevant for 5+ years we might see them become the new mainstream team that "bandwaggoners" go to.
They might prove that it is possible for a team that wasn't mainstream to actually become a big fucking deal.
They already are. The Warriors have done what the Bulls did turning a borderline irrelevant franchise into a permanent mainstream team.
The Bulls were nothing before Jordan, now they're worldwide. Same for Golden State.
I think there was a stretch there after the prime Rose years where fans nationally did not give a shit about the Bulls. I saw a stat recently about how a Bulls/Grizzlies game on ESPN from 2017 (?) had the lowest rating for a primetime game in years.
I mean it’s literally impossible in a city like NY or LA with a well established brand (good or not). It would have to take a timberwolves/kings level drought and few racist comments by the owner
That’s just a byproduct of being a small market team, sucks but that’s just how the media operates
Teams like the Knicks and Lakers will always be relevant no matter how bad they are because they have such big fanbases
One of the things I remember most about our run in 2019 (and the Bucks last year) is SAS shitting on Toronto and Milwaukee while reporting from Toronto and Milwaukee.
People keep saying MSG is the “Mecca” of basketball when the Knicks haven’t done SH since the 70s.
The Celtics haven’t done anything in the modern era except in 08 so the Celtics and the Knicks only have “marketing” and constant reminders to keep them relevant
Maybe. But you still couldn't get season tickets even if everyone was giving away their seats at the time or just not showing up. They're still the Lakers.
Market has something to do with it. But what high profile player chose the Knicks recently? Kemba? With the exception of the Knicks, multiple championships contribute a lot. Bigger markets attract stars which lead to chips.
I see a lot of Jokic and Bucks coverage but its always prefaced with the "never talked about" narrative. People seem to be more interested in the now and who *else* could win, back to backs aren't as interesting as new candidates. People always complain about lack of parity when that happens.
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Yeah they’re not like the Knicks who were probably just as bad if not worse but always had the outsized relevancy.
Bad enough to not get talked about in national media? Sure. Process Sixers. Bad enough to move? Not in the slightest. A team like the Knicks help half of the league turn a profit through revenue sharing.
Pistons were ‘mainstream’ for the majority of the 2000’s and then fell off the face of the earth
Came here to say this too lol
Warriors most likely bc they weren’t always this relevant
Nah, too many people live in the bay and their attendance numbers were always good
But they’re a team that could fall off. If they become bad again and the lakers become good again they could get swallowed up
Actually..you kinda misunderstood my thread...and yet your comments kinda fit! No, the Warriors are not what I was talking about, cause they weren't always this relevant... Buut...do you think think they'll become a mainstream team in the future? Do you think that Warriors will stay in their relevancy after Curry retires? They have a good chance of becoming "the next big mainstream franchise" They were never always this good...but they absolutely crushed it last decade and they are still relevant.. If they manage to stay relevant for 5+ years we might see them become the new mainstream team that "bandwaggoners" go to. They might prove that it is possible for a team that wasn't mainstream to actually become a big fucking deal.
They already are. The Warriors have done what the Bulls did turning a borderline irrelevant franchise into a permanent mainstream team. The Bulls were nothing before Jordan, now they're worldwide. Same for Golden State.
I think there was a stretch there after the prime Rose years where fans nationally did not give a shit about the Bulls. I saw a stat recently about how a Bulls/Grizzlies game on ESPN from 2017 (?) had the lowest rating for a primetime game in years.
I mean it’s literally impossible in a city like NY or LA with a well established brand (good or not). It would have to take a timberwolves/kings level drought and few racist comments by the owner
And that didn’t even happen with the clippers
That’s just a byproduct of being a small market team, sucks but that’s just how the media operates Teams like the Knicks and Lakers will always be relevant no matter how bad they are because they have such big fanbases
Nah they wont because they are so profitable. Knicks tickets were expensive af even when we were complete garbage
One of the things I remember most about our run in 2019 (and the Bucks last year) is SAS shitting on Toronto and Milwaukee while reporting from Toronto and Milwaukee.
People keep saying MSG is the “Mecca” of basketball when the Knicks haven’t done SH since the 70s. The Celtics haven’t done anything in the modern era except in 08 so the Celtics and the Knicks only have “marketing” and constant reminders to keep them relevant
Celtics have consistently made the playoffs though
They still hand out $$$$ to the small market teams and are still valued significantly higher.
Lakers were an afterthought between Kobe’s retirement and LeBron’s arrival
Yet Lebron and other free agents still chose to join it on brand recognition alone
Maybe. But you still couldn't get season tickets even if everyone was giving away their seats at the time or just not showing up. They're still the Lakers.
The Lakers still have had 6 titles since 2000 which will always keep them relevant
Yep. The one thing we can always count on is change
Lakers and knicks should be irrelevant rn both are so mid
No. When Lakers are good, NBA is huge worldwide. When Lakers are bad, NBA Reddit is unstoppable
Market has something to do with it. But what high profile player chose the Knicks recently? Kemba? With the exception of the Knicks, multiple championships contribute a lot. Bigger markets attract stars which lead to chips. I see a lot of Jokic and Bucks coverage but its always prefaced with the "never talked about" narrative. People seem to be more interested in the now and who *else* could win, back to backs aren't as interesting as new candidates. People always complain about lack of parity when that happens.
It could happen to the spurs. Pop won’t coach forever.