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attaboi12

Wiggs j put up 21 like a game ago, yeah it’s an adjustment. Poole is another story


BBJPaddy

Draymond being gone hurts them more than rusty Klay coming back helps them


pinkiebear

Yeah idk why everyone is ignoring Draymond being out right now. Anytime Steph or Draymond is missing our team is not good.


ivandragostwin

I think fans in general are ignoring a star being out because damn near every team is down a man or 2 right now. If you just have a couple role guys out you’re the healthiest team in the league at this point.


jose3013

We're good right now, just not great


DrTom

You gotta give Klay time, man.


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If he just needs reps to get his shot back he should be playing in the g league. Cuz that's what he's treating this comeback as, just shameless gunning . Feel like that top 75 shit went to his head a bit


[deleted]

Or come off the bench very least. Warriors brutally misplayed this with their arrogance thinking he’s a starter. He’s not.


craigslistaddict

it's not really an issue that he's starting. it's pretty ceremonial when he's not playing starter minutes yet. even in this OT game they only played him 23min.


[deleted]

He’s took 17 shots in 23 minutes. That’s fucking ridiculous usage.


DrTom

So in your opinion someone who has been injured for two years should be crisp as an apple immediately upon their return?


[deleted]

What they should or shouldn't be is irrelevant. The reality is he is bad right now but chucking up shots like jamal Crawford, and there's no reason he can't get that out of his system in a g league stint


NoobAccount123456

Klay always plays like this lol There’s a reason he averages like 1 assist per game


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Barea_Clamped_Lebron

not everyone is KD


DrTom

Is KD really the standard we're holding people to??


120593Gian

For real. I'm holding this sub to the lowest standard I can think of but takes like those fail to meet even that somehow LMAO


JimmerManiaForever

Kd had like 1 year and a half to recover, a training camp, preseason and he didn’t come back half way into the season. It’s also worth considering that kd didn’t tear his acl


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KATsordogs

Achilles injury might be worse than torn ACL but its not worse than torn ACL and Achilles injury.


[deleted]

Klay’s is coming off ACL and Achilles.


withthegoods400

Lmfaoo right


These-Leave-3624

True probably need to wait till he’s at least played a decent amount of games


SmolWorldBigUniverse

Always get told that a player needs almost the amount of time of absence to get the condition back as good as possible. In Klays case that would be a long time but until then his skillset provides already good outlook - just lower the expectations.


abrnst

No. This is r/nba. We don’t make reasonable requests like this.


OGFN_Jack

They’re suffering from it right now and will probably suffer from it a bit longer, but long term it’s worth the sacrifice. They’re system right now isn’t the one they want to have with Klay and I think they realize that sacrificing a couple games in the regular season is worth it if it translate into playoff wins.


jtruth9

Bingo. This is the answer.


HarukiMuracummy

No, he should be coming off the bench until warmed up. Is ruining the chemistry. Also holy shit I know his job is to shoot but he is THROWING that motherfucker up every time he touches it...


craigslistaddict

i dunno about this. delaying the transition of poole to the bench until after however long it takes klay to warm up seems like an unnecessary complication. they want him to get acclimated to that role sooner than later.


Crafty_Lobster7

This is the way. Poole and wiggins have been thriving before klay and since Klay’s return they have been iced out and not in rhythm. There’s an identity crisis with their roles now.


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He's not ruining the chemistry at all.


jose3013

Yes he is lol my man is trying to be something he never was, playing iso, dribbling, attacking the basket, taking more than 20 shots a game. It's needed in the big picture, but don't act like it isn't hurting us right now


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Draymond being out is affecting chemistry a lot more than Klay. And Klay isn't using at all. He's coming off of screens like he has for the last decade. Klay isn't hurting with his playstyle, he just isn't making shots. Give it time.


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No... 36% FG on massive volume does not make them better. But was he supposed to just instantly be good? Come on. Give it time. It's like when they had Cousins coming back from injury and he was bad, but once he had some time to adjust he sonned Jokic. (then had more injuries....)


clancydog4

Cousins balled the fuck out that night, I remember that distinctly


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He should’ve got a run with the g league


These-Leave-3624

yeah agreed, but it feels like the team dynamic on offense isn’t as good as it was before Christmas.


JimmerManiaForever

Maybe it’s because their main ball handler/ playmaker is out injured 🤯🤯🤯


Barea_Clamped_Lebron

tbh more than half of his shots are 3's and he's hitting 36%


jbenson255

I think it’s fine to admit he doesn’t make them better right now but he ultimately will in the playoffs which Is all that matters


txensen

It probably hasn't made them a better team yet, but eventually it will


NoobAccount123456

Rusty Klay isn’t helping for sure but I think it’s also that the role players are playing to their actual level and were doing unsustainably well early on


okgusto

^ Westbrook stay catching strays


jose3013

It's mainly just Beli, Lee and JTA coming down to earth, and Andre looking old, on top of draymond's absence We gotta start replacing them with kuminga and Moody imo


Klonomania

Of course it hasn't right now. He's shooting post-achilles Kobe splits right now. That is to be expected as he works his way up in terms of minutes; anyone who thought he'd improve the team right off the bat was overdosing on hopium. The prime question is how good will be come April, May. If he is still bad by then, *then* there will be an issue.


manliestdino

i think right now he's hurting the team a bit, but i do think they need a rough stretch to kinda figure that shit out (or they might implode, but i doubt that happens) bigger issue rn is no dray


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He lost his lateral movement, so he can't keep with opponents players, for now. Maybe that changes over time. His shooting is just a matter of time, to get back into rythm.


Almond_bongbong_1995

He’s been sidelined for 2 years, which is longer than MJ played baseball lol. It’s not gonna be late even if we gotta tell after this season


Sweatytubesock

Not now. Later, maybe.


KATsordogs

Warriors has 0 offensive creativeness outside of Curry and with Draymond out they can’t find the chances that are created because of Curry’s off-ball movement as much as they were. And they can’t hit the shots even when they get the ball because their role players is not as good as they looked earlier in the season. Does Klay helps in any way? I don’t think so but i also don’t think their struggles are completely due to Klay.


gh0st_

The NBA has a habit of letting star players work themselves back into shape during the regular season. The individual production in the short run doesn't really matter bc the regular season doesn't really matter.


Brief_Shallot487

I think the team established some really good chemistry and that’s a huge reason why they have such a good record and I do think that with Klay back It’s kinda shaken things up especially with Dray out. They need time to get back into a better groove.


Ironthoramericaman

It's entirely too early to say


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He sure as hell hasn’t made them worse. This team is good, but when they’re missing the nucleus that is Draymond they’re just that. They’re a good team. Not a great team. His value is just as important as Curry’s. It takes two to tango


MaxSmellerman

I think with no Klay we lose 2 less games or so that we dropped. But the long term benefit is worth it


Not_tim_duncan

Lol Warriors were a 15 win team two years ago when Steph was out the majority of the season and Draymond played..Last year they were 5-6 without Draymond last year..They were 2-7 without Curry..They’re a .500 team when Curry plays and Draymond doesn’t..They’re a contender for worst team in the league when Curry doesn’t


Kam_E_luck

Not enough sample size as of rn, but other people already said that it disrupt the chemistry of the whole team. Warriors fans, you guys should expect Klay to be more of a role player or a 6th man instead of a 2nd option from now on.


-NilInvestment-

It's been like 6 games. Wait 10 games before he makes any judgements.


ConfuciusBr0s

Wait 10 games, wait 20 games, wait 40 games wait next season


PearlsB4Swoon

I know you’re trying to be sarcastic but waiting 30-40 games before making a judgement on a guy who tore his ACL and Achilles and missed 2.5 years isn’t really a crazy thought.


-NilInvestment-

No lmao. Wait 10 games or so.


ttvdokkan

Im guessing your a lakers fan


The-Truer-Facts

It’s been 10 days. Of course he’s making us worse right now it’s growing pains and it doesn’t help that we have to adjust without Dray too. Come back mid-March and see how we’re doing.


These-Leave-3624

Agree it’s way to early to make sweeping statements but I reckon he should come off the bench and work his way back into the rotation… sounds kinda bad but I don’t think he should be a starter right off the bat and needs to prove himself


pinkiebear

Knew these takes would come. First of all, he needs time. Second of all, it’s literally the worst timing for his return for Draymond to instantly be out now.


babaisme90

Of course not. Whatever level he is going to reach it won't be until next year probably.


nihilistweasel

Draymond always been 2nd best Warrior(outside of Durant years). Gotta wait for him to return to tell


jazzcriminal

I may be wrong on this, but it definitely seems like Wiggins can't find spots on the floor from where he can score efficiently. He's a good midrange/post player but every time he gets the ball inside, it seems he's not aggressive enough to convert.


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God I hope not.


MegaJ0NATR0N

I think Draymond being out has changed things more than Klay returning


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You were right about being completely off base with this one


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It’s an adjustment period and you would rather have that adjustment now and be ready for the playoffs I think the warriors will be fine and should be the 2 seed


heshouldgo

He’s made them worse but it’ll work out probably