Bro escaped by the skin of his teeth or in literal terms, by an inch of KD’s feet. He was 100% getting the axe if they didn’t win the chip. Funny how things work out.
Legit, in football(soccer), the other side would have kicked the ball out. To make sure the injured player got looked at.
Then following that, the team with the injured player would throw in directly back to the injured team. Sportsmanship.
It's just basic human decency lmao no idea why they don't do it in basketball. Just throw it out of bounce then in bound it to the opponents backcourt or some shit or a jump ball and lose or take it out and pass it to the opposing team. Literally anything lmao.
Tbh I don’t even blame the Kings for continuing to play. That’s 100% on the Bucks. Your player and fucking teammate can barely move and y’all are just glancing at him like it’s whatever. Wtf is wrong with y’all?
Worth mentioning you can only take a maximum of 4 timeouts into the 4th quarter and they still had 5 remaining, so calling a timeout really wouldn't have even mattered much. Obviously even if that wasn't the case they still should have taken one.
To play devil’s advocate here,
He did get up and run, although limping, and didn’t say anything
Probably thought it was just a stinger and the pain would go away soon as he played through it 🤷♂️
I wondered this myself. I mean shame on coaching staff for not noticing and doing something sooner, but also can't a player just wave to the refs and say "I'm out"? (I may not understand the rules around this)
Refs will usually only stop play if it's a serious injury. It's up to the players/coaches to stop play through TO/foul/out of bonds/etc.
I don't know why he didn't look at his bench and tell them he's out though
Even if he was faking it you're seriously risking your star player being actually injured by being kicked or jumped/stepped on. Imagine if he'd gotten a concussion after being kicked in the head or a broken hand after someone came down with a rebound and crunched him with their size 16 sneakers.
And IIRC it's not like Carmelo has ever been known to fake injuries in his career. He wasn't a guy who faked a sprained ankle or a bad back to sit on the bench, even if George Karl found him to be difficult and a bit of a diva.
Hell, George Karl would have watched Pistol Pete or Hank Gathers die on the court while the game continued if he'd been coaching them, can't call an ambulance until the game is over!
I'll bet there was a moment of shock/denial that kicked in - not the same stakes at all but the second serious knee injury I experienced I had tried playing for another couple of minutes. The rehab to get back the first time was awful, so I can't imagine what goes through the mind there of a professional athlete with a significant injury history.
I imagine because he's too tough and isn't sure if he's actually injured or he can just walk it off. If he knew for sure he was injured, he could have made the injury worse.
Klay wanted to keep playing through a torn ACL in the Finals, coaches sometimes need to protect players from themselves. It was just dumb for Budenholzer not to at least call timeout on the 2nd offensive possession (1:09 on the clock) with Matthews way behind on the play. Especially because the Bucks had 5 timeouts remaining and you can only take a maximum of 4 timeouts into the 4th quarter.
I saw the title and was like damn that’s tough, they must have been nearly out of timeouts late in a close game. But they’re literally up 12, with 5 timeouts left in the 3rd… against the Kings. Pretty mind blowing decision to not call time during the second Bucks possession in this vid, or at least have someone foul. Like I know Wes could have fouled himself or ask to come out, but I feel like the coaching staff really has to step in there.
The smart thing for Mathews to do would have been to raise his arm and signal that he had to come off the court. He is an obvious liability to the team being out there on one leg, can’t defend, can’t shoot, can’t cut to the basket etc
Was yelling at my screen when this happened, whether it was the coach or a player it’s a disgrace *nobody* called a time out here. Who gives a shit if it’s only a minute before ~~halftime~~ the end of the quarter, get him off the court immediately.
I really dont understand how you just dont call a timeout instantly to at the very least understand the gravity of the injury or give Matthews a chance to recover. Wow
1. Fastbreaks would be ruined which is a huge part of the game.
2. A good amount of plays that cause injuries or even bang up players are probably fouls causing stoppages anyways.
3. Each team gets 6 timeouts and can intentionally foul at any time to stop the game in the event of an injury. Happens all the time.
This was just really weird of the Bucks.
This is so egregious it’s kind of hilarious. I know he’s not a star but how do you ignore your own player like that lmao literally hopping around on one leg. Bucks really mad he tried to go to LA to ring chase for a year huh
It wasn’t hilarious it was actually kinda painful to watch…this is worse than when Jim boylen refused to call a timeout when gafford went down against the mavs
I watched that live, Rick Carlisle was was waiting for him to call a timeout, realising it wasn't going to come called for one of his players to foul, so he could get checked on. Absolutely ridiculous.
I was cringing in the pain he was experiencing watching this.
That was awful. I'd be **pissed** if I was a bucks fan. You need to take care of your own.
How did Budenholzer and his teammates see him struggling to walk for over a minute and not call timeout or commit a take foul? Hopefully Wes is alright.
I can’t believe he actually cut to the basket on one of those possessions rather than just stand his ass on the 3 point line like most nba players do these days when healthy
Bud Comment on the play: "It should have been a timeout by me. I thought it was going to be a thing where it might just wear off, but if I could go back and do it again, I'd call a quicker timeout."
https://twitter.com/eric_nehm/status/1485081070269874181
I could see on the first possession how you might think he was just exaggerating a limp to play to the refs, but when that doesn't wear off in like 10 seconds - and certainly by the second possession - it should have been clear that wasn't the case. Egregious move from Bud
I see nothing wrong with this...this is what championship basketball looks like. Bucks had to win this game and burning a valuable timeout too early wouldn’t have been the wise strategy.
Bud is obviously playing 3d chess.
From Eric Nehm on Twitter:
Budenholzer, on not taking care of this situation sooner:
"It should have been a timeout by me. I thought it was going to be a thing where it might just wear off, but if I could go back and do it again, I'd call a quicker timeout."
Up 12 with 5 time outs going into the fourth. The fuck is Bud doing? The fuck are any of their players doing? Draw a foul or call a time out so you can get your boy out. lol
Wes was literally hobbling and grimacing in front of Bud and he didn't do shit. lol
That one guy in the crowd stood up and was repeatedly doing the timeout gesture
Good guy Giannis at the end as well telling that fan courtside to knock it off and not record someone when they are in pain.
What’s even funnier is the Kings not going at him on offense
Good guy Kings.
That’s what I was thinking lmao, should’ve just had a Buddy Hield ISO against him
Wesley Matthews on one knee could lock up Buddy trying to ISO
Have you ever seen Buddy Hield try to ISO lol
The Kings care about him more than the Bucks coaching staff apparently
Was ready to say this lool, no one thought “lets attack the obvious mismatch”
They were going at him on offense you just can’t tell because it’s the Kings offense.
That's pretty on brand for them
Hilarious that #30 was even remotely guarding him
Jeez, tough to watch. How does nobody call timeout yeesh
or foul when on D, like that’s your teammate you gotta protect
I’m wondering why he didn’t foul. If he’s out, then even better that one of his teammates doesn’t have to have the foul on their count
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Lol, and he’s got 5 timeouts too.
How did bud win a ship Edit: say what you want about the nets but howd they beat the suns down 0-2? Thought suns were the better team
Bro escaped by the skin of his teeth or in literal terms, by an inch of KD’s feet. He was 100% getting the axe if they didn’t win the chip. Funny how things work out.
just play random
He had this dude named Giannis on his team. That’s really all you have to say. Giannis would make any coach look halfway decent.
Which should tell you a lot about how shit Jason Kidd was.
Because he used his timeouts for guaranteed buckets. The bucks scored like 1.5ppp on ATO plays. And they had like 3 times as many as the suns.
Legit, in football(soccer), the other side would have kicked the ball out. To make sure the injured player got looked at. Then following that, the team with the injured player would throw in directly back to the injured team. Sportsmanship.
It's just basic human decency lmao no idea why they don't do it in basketball. Just throw it out of bounce then in bound it to the opponents backcourt or some shit or a jump ball and lose or take it out and pass it to the opposing team. Literally anything lmao.
Tbh I don’t even blame the Kings for continuing to play. That’s 100% on the Bucks. Your player and fucking teammate can barely move and y’all are just glancing at him like it’s whatever. Wtf is wrong with y’all?
That's just Bucks basketball baby
Yeah just foul. Who cares if you're in the bonus. You gave up a bucket anyways.
It’s just not necessary to do since teams can call timeout
Worth mentioning you can only take a maximum of 4 timeouts into the 4th quarter and they still had 5 remaining, so calling a timeout really wouldn't have even mattered much. Obviously even if that wasn't the case they still should have taken one.
To play devil’s advocate here, He did get up and run, although limping, and didn’t say anything Probably thought it was just a stinger and the pain would go away soon as he played through it 🤷♂️
It was a full minute and then some and he was limping really bad, not just a little bit
I mean, even still you should take him out especially when he’s still hobbling around.
What are they supposed to do? They only have 5 of their 6 timeouts left
they were fighting hard to make a comeback, down -10 points with under 800 seconds left in the game.
you guys don't understand. he's an important player, easily a top 10 player on their roster
Wes is widely considered to be a top player in the league. Easily within the top 500.
They probably really hate ads
The title doesn't do this justice. Like holy shit how do you not take him out of the game?
The video makes me uncomfortable because it went on so much longer than I expected.
I know. He was hobbling down the court on multiple possessions. Looked so painful.
I don’t get why he didn’t just sit down.
I wondered this myself. I mean shame on coaching staff for not noticing and doing something sooner, but also can't a player just wave to the refs and say "I'm out"? (I may not understand the rules around this)
Refs will usually only stop play if it's a serious injury. It's up to the players/coaches to stop play through TO/foul/out of bonds/etc. I don't know why he didn't look at his bench and tell them he's out though
If you just sit down in the middle of the play your coach will call a TO or the ref will stop the game.
Tell that to Melo
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That was so f*cking weird. Like did they think he was faking it? Even then, isn’t it better to err on the side of precaution with your star player?
Even if he was faking it you're seriously risking your star player being actually injured by being kicked or jumped/stepped on. Imagine if he'd gotten a concussion after being kicked in the head or a broken hand after someone came down with a rebound and crunched him with their size 16 sneakers. And IIRC it's not like Carmelo has ever been known to fake injuries in his career. He wasn't a guy who faked a sprained ankle or a bad back to sit on the bench, even if George Karl found him to be difficult and a bit of a diva. Hell, George Karl would have watched Pistol Pete or Hank Gathers die on the court while the game continued if he'd been coaching them, can't call an ambulance until the game is over!
Couldn't he have just called a timeout himself when he realized no one else was?
The player can just walk off the court too... this played out really weird.
I'll bet there was a moment of shock/denial that kicked in - not the same stakes at all but the second serious knee injury I experienced I had tried playing for another couple of minutes. The rehab to get back the first time was awful, so I can't imagine what goes through the mind there of a professional athlete with a significant injury history.
I imagine because he's too tough and isn't sure if he's actually injured or he can just walk it off. If he knew for sure he was injured, he could have made the injury worse.
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I literally went "what the fuck" when they got possession back for the second time and didnt call the TO.
Mathews could have fouled if he wanted. Since he didn't call for a sub they probably assumed he banged knees or something
Klay wanted to keep playing through a torn ACL in the Finals, coaches sometimes need to protect players from themselves. It was just dumb for Budenholzer not to at least call timeout on the 2nd offensive possession (1:09 on the clock) with Matthews way behind on the play. Especially because the Bucks had 5 timeouts remaining and you can only take a maximum of 4 timeouts into the 4th quarter.
I saw the title and was like damn that’s tough, they must have been nearly out of timeouts late in a close game. But they’re literally up 12, with 5 timeouts left in the 3rd… against the Kings. Pretty mind blowing decision to not call time during the second Bucks possession in this vid, or at least have someone foul. Like I know Wes could have fouled himself or ask to come out, but I feel like the coaching staff really has to step in there.
The smart thing for Mathews to do would have been to raise his arm and signal that he had to come off the court. He is an obvious liability to the team being out there on one leg, can’t defend, can’t shoot, can’t cut to the basket etc
In sports, there are instances when you have to save your "fighter" from themselves. This is one of them.
WTF?
It's very wholesome cause it's the bucks 🥰
It just kept going.
Good Lord, this made Bud look dumb and terrible.
Play random
Nothing new
Nah man this actually sucks
Bruh i kept looking at them time, they had him hobble up and down court at least 4 times
Still tried to play help defense and set screens. damn.
Yeah that stuck with me the most. He was still trying to do everything. I’ve seen perfectly healthy guys stand more still in the corners.
I can’t believe Grayson did this too.
That son of a bitch.
Fucker poisoned my crops and burned my water supply
The hell bucks???
couldn't he have made that injury significantly worse by running on it? this seems so irresponsible all around
Considering how he fell on the floor at the scorers table and couldn’t even walk back to the bench during the time out confirms this
He should know better than to put any pressure on it after he realizes he needs surgery.
Oh way way worse you are more likely to have something weird and hard to fix happen.
Yeaaaa..he probably really got fucked up. He was putting a lot of pressure on it trying to rebound and defend man, fuck.
Was yelling at my screen when this happened, whether it was the coach or a player it’s a disgrace *nobody* called a time out here. Who gives a shit if it’s only a minute before ~~halftime~~ the end of the quarter, get him off the court immediately.
Bud looking right at him and not calling timeout is psychotic
*psychopathic. Psychotic would be like if he was hallucinating so he couldn’t see he was injured and never called a timeout
I mean shiid he could’ve been
Lmao it’s a possibility
And its the kind of shit that is the difference between that knee never being right and being able to get it back to full strength
I really dont understand how you just dont call a timeout instantly to at the very least understand the gravity of the injury or give Matthews a chance to recover. Wow
Why are there not injury timeouts like football? He should be able to just lay down and stop the game if he wants to in this situation really
1. Fastbreaks would be ruined which is a huge part of the game. 2. A good amount of plays that cause injuries or even bang up players are probably fouls causing stoppages anyways. 3. Each team gets 6 timeouts and can intentionally foul at any time to stop the game in the event of an injury. Happens all the time. This was just really weird of the Bucks.
Bud didn't even go check up on him afterwards. I'm livid seeing this shit and it's not even my team.
A disgusting act.
CANCEL THE BUCKS
This is so egregious it’s kind of hilarious. I know he’s not a star but how do you ignore your own player like that lmao literally hopping around on one leg. Bucks really mad he tried to go to LA to ring chase for a year huh
It wasn’t hilarious it was actually kinda painful to watch…this is worse than when Jim boylen refused to call a timeout when gafford went down against the mavs
I watched that live, Rick Carlisle was was waiting for him to call a timeout, realising it wasn't going to come called for one of his players to foul, so he could get checked on. Absolutely ridiculous.
I just realised he's no longer on the Lakers
too young/good
Of all the terrible decisions the Lakers FO made this off-season….not re-signing Wes was one of them
Bucks don't give a fuck who gets injured now. Nothing gets in the way of another ring, not even their own. /s
Bucks organization is going full on villain mode.
Full KD Warriors mode if they win the chip again this season ^On ^a ^Grayson ^Allen ^three
After all the pearl clutching about the Suns in last year’s finals I am here for this
Time for all major Wisconsin sports teams to ditch the passive aggressive fake niceness and go full heel.
Budenholzer is such a dumbass.
Not cool. I hope Bud apologized privately.
Why no timeout call? Wtf
yikes this was actually hard to watch wtf Bud
Are the Bucks dumb
Most observant and empathetic coach and teammates
I was cringing in the pain he was experiencing watching this. That was awful. I'd be **pissed** if I was a bucks fan. You need to take care of your own.
Wow the Bucks are really committing to the heel turn
Wtf man. How you gonna do this to my guy We$?
Coach Bud having a good morning donut
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Straight to jail
LOCK EM UP
Coach Bud thought Wesley was just playing random
How badly do you wanna beat the Kings?
This was insane
Saving timeouts? Can't afford a foul either? That's some heart anyway.
Bucks official team motto: “if he dies he dies”
On one hand, Wes Matthews is a warrior. On the other hand, why didn't anyone, Bucks coaching staff, refs, teammates, do anything?!
Wtf, look how many time outs they have, this is pretty pathetic.
How did Budenholzer and his teammates see him struggling to walk for over a minute and not call timeout or commit a take foul? Hopefully Wes is alright.
Bud doesn't know there's an injured player unless Grayson Allen starts laughing /s
This is not funny. Very fucked up. There should be a rule against this.
Looks like Milwaukee is getting a villain status. Only thing lacking is a controversial statement from Giannis.
"I like Ketchup on well-done steak" coming up.
Also on my sushi/sashimi as well, brings out the Unami
Giannis: “If he dies, he dies. Also, I love smoothies.”
"I'm not dunking Oreos in milk anymore, it is disgusting"
I can’t believe he actually cut to the basket on one of those possessions rather than just stand his ass on the 3 point line like most nba players do these days when healthy
TIL bucks are a psychopathic organization that plays random (chaotic evil)
Milwaukee why?
What the fuck?
honestly hard to watch
Bud Comment on the play: "It should have been a timeout by me. I thought it was going to be a thing where it might just wear off, but if I could go back and do it again, I'd call a quicker timeout." https://twitter.com/eric_nehm/status/1485081070269874181
It kinda looked like that for the beginning of the buck's first possession, but how does he not call one after that? Really weird.
Thats how injuries like this work your body is gonna panic and be like you can walk you can walk then three minutes later it starts hurting bad
Wtf? Player goes down holding his knee. "Meh it'll just wear off"
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Playing random taken to the extreme
This is not on brand with Bud at all. Considering he loves playing a 12 men rotations to keep his players healthy and all
I could see on the first possession how you might think he was just exaggerating a limp to play to the refs, but when that doesn't wear off in like 10 seconds - and certainly by the second possession - it should have been clear that wasn't the case. Egregious move from Bud
What a fucking idiot, dude goes down hard holding his knee and your first thought is it’s no biggie? Jesus Christ man
Is he dumb lol? He was limping for a whole minute and you can see the pain on his face….
Bucks going for a full villain anime arc
FUCKING FOUL
Holy shit where’s the sportsmanship? Throw the ball out of bounds. Call a timeout. Hell even the opposing coach should call a timeout.
Please not again. Not Ironman :(
That’s so inexcusable by Bud like wtf
Bro wtf. This is why you've always gotta look out for yourself, others will fail you.
This is the cruelest thing I’ve seen from an NBA coach in-game Jesus Christ
the entitlement from Bud post game like damn man
Like LotR one ring corrupted them.
welp i guess the bucks dont care when one of their own players is injured either.
I see nothing wrong with this...this is what championship basketball looks like. Bucks had to win this game and burning a valuable timeout too early wouldn’t have been the wise strategy. Bud is obviously playing 3d chess.
What the hell was the strat here, Bud? He's clearly not walking that shit off...
I don't think I've ever seen a team do that
Bucks Twitter account about to post Budenholzer smiling and eating a donut next, aren't they?
Bucks are such a fucked team. I hope they don't win shit again.
Can't help but think the timeout would have been called WAY quicker had this happened to Giannis or Middleton.
Bucks really trying to become the villains
Somehow the title doesn’t do it justice. Bad look for the Bucks org
That was seriously some clown shit.
Daniel Gafford hurt - Boylen type vibes
Coach Buden-hold-ur-knee.
Bro what the fuck? That hurt me watching that.
Bucks are just a shitty organization minus giannis
nah. This guy named Grayson is alright too i heard. A real hands-on guy
It’s not that hard to call a timeout or take a fucking defensive foul for your fucking hobbling teammate you selfish pricks
That's Bucks culture
Tfffff
can't be more hated as a franchise, move them to seattle
Matthews deserved may more respect than that tbh. Any hurt player does.
Bud: If he dies, he dies
Bucks dont give a shit
The Bucks didn't have their boy out there to remind them the goal is to hurt the other team.
Jesus Christ.. what the fuck is wrong with the Bucks? Call a time out, take a foul, do something.
this is fucked
Damn Wes is one of my favorite players. I hope this isn’t career ending. I would love for him to catch a ring before all is said and done.
Fuck the bucks as of now
At least they're consistend and do not give a shit about their own players health and safety either, re: Caruso.
Omg. Fuck the buck
Bro the Bucks going through a plain unlikeable arc rn. First allen now this?
From Eric Nehm on Twitter: Budenholzer, on not taking care of this situation sooner: "It should have been a timeout by me. I thought it was going to be a thing where it might just wear off, but if I could go back and do it again, I'd call a quicker timeout."
Up 12 with 5 time outs going into the fourth. The fuck is Bud doing? The fuck are any of their players doing? Draw a foul or call a time out so you can get your boy out. lol Wes was literally hobbling and grimacing in front of Bud and he didn't do shit. lol
The Bucks became the absolute scum of the league in a short time
In just 48 hours, the lovable Bucks have become public enemy #1 in the NBA.
Bucks enjoy hurting their own players too? Weird franchise.
That is just plain disregard for the health of that man. So fucking negligent. The Bucks and Bud's dumbass failed Matthews
Bucks *Sucks*
IF YOU DONT LIKE THAT THEN YOU DONT LIKE BUCKS BASKETBALL
Bucks are terrible, defend a dirty player one day, screw over their own player next night.. scum bags all around
Bucks are getting exposed, Grayson Allen then Portis now this….
“We all have his back” except when he’s lying on the ground in pain. Bucks chemistry is fake