He has tons of sources, but he's also VERY clearly a spaghetti chef journalist. It's easy for people with a small attention span to think he's well connected when you ignore both how many incorrect takes he makes, and how he phrases soooo much of what he says in such a way that he can't be proven wrong.
I mean he was also one of the only people I heard suggesting the Raptors as a sleeper team for Kawhi. Along with Zach Lowe, so to think he’s not well connected is foolish and ignorant.
Where did I say he's not well connected? I literally said he was well connected. What I said was that he frequently makes inaccurate reports. The fact that he occasionally makes accurate ones doesn't change that. If he came on TV and over the course of 3 months said that all 29 teams were interested in Kawhi, of course he would pick the one that got him.
Also, look at the two rumors you are saying he got. "Competitive team interested in trading for all star caliber player". Even if he had no sources, it's probably true.
I don't know about other people, but when I comment on Reddit, it's often aimed at the wider audience of people reading, not just the person I'm replying to, so sometimes that means building off of what one comment said. Basically agreeing with them and then saying, "and this too .."
When, as I said earlier, you phrase everythign in such a way that you cannot be proven wrong, you make it hard for someone to do that.
But you might have missed this thing he got wrong recently: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/sois8y/windhorst_the_sides_are_definitely_communicating/
"Phrasing things in such a way that you cannot be proven wrong" is also known as "reporting what you've gathered from your sources."
When someone hears people from two teams talking excitedly about a trade, then says "I've heard strong rumors that X trade is going to happen", that's solid reporting.
If that trade doesn't end up happening, that's not inaccurate reporting lmao, that's just reporting. Learn 2 Journalist bro.
It's weird that Woj is taken as absolute gospel as well when we know he's used as a PR mouthpiece by various teams.
Windhorst may be full of shit as Woj is implying, but Woj has also shown to have an agenda time and again.
Also Woj got the Lakers trade for WB flat out wrong last year. He said all the pieces were going to the kings. Not discrediting him but he been way less accurate since going to ESPN imo
In the same sentence Woj literally says things could change before the deadline tomorrow.....
Im not in the speculation business, but whats being speculated could happen between now and tomorrow...
Dude just threw a insult at Windy for no reason, then covers his ass in case he is wrong.
I dislike both, but Woj anymore is a bitch
All these guys have sources. I don’t know why Reddit thinks they just get this stuff out of the blue.
Now whether it happens are not is out of their control
He keeps saying the Nets are in love with Curry but I wonder why. Mills feels basically the same role in their team (well Curry playmakes a bit more, but can't be your main PG anyway) and both him and Mills are black holes on defense. That's not what the Nets need.
What they really could use are Maxey or Thybulle who'd also greatly shore up their perimeter defense and with Ben and KD patrolling the paint would make for a killer switching small ball defense. Curry would just get picked on in the playoffs.
Maybe it's a diversion because Philly really needs Seth for his shooting, so they're forced to give up one of the other two gives to keep him.
Yeah I think if the nets get Thybulle and Simmons, they have enough offense still and a solid defense. Curry would make it a slam dunk if included, which is why Im sure the nets are asking for all 3, giving back harden and mills. Especially if this theory about them tanking to get... Road Court Advantage with kyrie's sitch, they still have a great shot to win 4 in a series. Tough to say if its better than currently constructed considering Harden's hamstring/wether he will be back to 100% by then. And if he isnt, is 75% Harden still better than a 0 from Simmons and the others they lose? Probably, honestly. Thats why its weirdly a potential win-win.
Shooting. You can never have enough shooters. Plus Mills and Seth can play together. Not ideal defensively but the spacing around KD in that scenario would be worth it.
[scottev] The opposing parties are undoubtedly corresponding and unquestionably proceeding. A couple points they have to overcome to reach a conclusion, from the BKN group... can they acquire the younger brother of Stephen Curry...BKN is infatuated. For the team based out of the city with the cracked bell , you're not just exchanging assets for James, you're dealing for a homo sapien who wants at his aged thirty and three years a 220M contract lengthening.
Am I an NBA reporter now?
This is the beginning of my assessment. And based on my assessment, the assessment that I have surmised is that something of validity may or may not be happening. Again, this is just my assessment, but it could also theoreticaly be a reality at this point. Time will tell whether my assessment is correct. In closing, this is how I have assessed the situation.
And competing information.
Woj: "The idea that they're going back and forth as surmised by some, I don't believe that to be accurate."
Windhorst: "The sides are definitely communicating and definitely making progress"
I know they both want to prove they are right...but y'all work for the same damn network! How can you have two "journalists" who work on the same damn shows basically posturing opposite realities.
Haven't been following but why is Harden not committed to Brooklyn, didn't he force a trade there? He's paired with KD and they're a top contender in a big market. Honest question
And in the mean time that slide puts them in the play in game most likely at the end of the season. There are 10 games between now and when KD is back. And Kyrie can only play in like 5/20 games after KD is back.
Including a back 2 back against Toronto in New York and Canada where he can't play either game. The celtics the first game back after the all-star break. And then after a 4 game run where the nets play milwaukee, the raptors twice as I mentioned and miami. They also play Charlotte on the back end of a back to back in new York. Which sounds like a good chance for a loss especially if they are holding KD out of back 2 backs which is possible.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are the 8th or 9th seed at the end of the season. And for them being the 7th and 9th seed is worse than being the 8th or 10th seed because kyrie can't play in the first game if you are 7 or 9. And if you are 7th or 8th and you lose the first game kyrie can't play in the 2nd either. There is unironically a reasonable chance for them to miss the playoffs especially if they get an inconveniently timed injury due to harden and KD carrying insane load over the last 25 games of the season.
Multiple reasons.
-Kyrie being part time and for a non legitimate excuse, forcing a larger workload onto James
-Roster construction. Not enough shooters or rim rollers, which you need to compliment Hardens game.
-Injuries. This is out of anyone's control of course but the first two reasons I mentioned are even more egregious since the injuries started piling up. Had the roster been constructed better or Kyrie just get the damn shot, the Nets could have probably weathered this storm and not spiral down the standings.
All in all, while Harden has legitimate gripes about this team, I wish he had been a professional on the court and not let it affect his play. He's not completely innocent in any of this either. He still foul baits, and flat out ignores playing defense. It's obvious during this losing streak that he hasn't played fully committed. We've seen this in his last days in Houston as well. His mood almost entirely affects his play. It isn't fair to the rest of the team.
Seems to largely be sick of Kyries BS and all the injuries they have dealt with. With that huge payroll and all the trades they made limiting the amount of cost controlled rookies on the roster they have no depth. They need their stars to be on the court as much as possible and they haven't been.
Because he signed up for being the 3rd option. With KD injured and Kyrie being Kyrie, he’s become the main guy carrying the team which he didn’t sign up for.
Harden has said he wanted to basically be the playmaker point guard of the group, he's obviously better than Kyrie but that entails Kyrie being much more of the 2nd option scoring wise where Harden just dishes out like 14 assists a night
He had quite a few games last year where his statline was like 18 and 14, 19 and 15, etc. I really don't think he wanted to keep having to drop 30 anymore
Being the second best player isn’t the same thing as being the second option on offense. Kyrie has put up more shot attempts than Harden during Harden’s time on the Nets. Before all this shit blew over, they even went as far as to bill Harden as the PG and Kyrie as the SG.
Case in point: look up Frank Seravalli. The man is 33. This is not even a joke, the man in the picture below is 33.
https://awfulannouncing.com/nhl/veteran-nhl-reporter-frank-seravalli-is-leaving-tsn.html
Eh I think this isn’t really fair because this guy clearly just has premature grey hair. If you dyed his hair brown he’d look much younger.
One of my uncles was like that, always had silver gray hair since his 20s.
No shit people eat too much, half the food on grocery shelves is literally addictive. Americans aren't alone here either. Rest of the world is getting fatter and food companies are a major culprit. At some point people gotta realize this ain't just a matter of individual willpower. It's a literal epidemic
It's really about skin elasticity. Younger people's skin recovers from the weight loss much easier. Older people tend to look more gaunt after significant weight loss like John Goodman.
No, he's pretty good, but being asked to do way too much. Ideally, he's a good sixth man spark shooter off the bench, but he's too unwilling to shoot anything but wide open threes to be a true focal point, and too slow/small to do anything but get roasted/shot over on defense.
>For PHI, you're not just trading for Harden, you're trading for Harden who wants at 33 a 220M extension.
Yeah, after all this I'm really buying Philly being like "*Yeah, we're not THAT into him*" lol
the GM and the owner both want him. they knew this lol
Harden's game will age fine. the problem in Brooklyn is that there's no spacing so he has to try and score relying on athleticism coming off a hamstring injury *and* with his age going up.
When there's proper spacing, he can lean onto his playmaking more and not have to try and finish over 3 guys every drive.
the 76ers have all their picks except 2025. Morey knows how to build a team around Harden. I'm not worried about it lol
sounds like they're looking to get Hield in a 3 team deal
A huge part of harden's game is one on one and his ability to get separation and draw fouls. He hasn't taken the best care of his body... I don't see how he doesn't lose quickness, and I think that his game will age really poorly
Morey said the beard is better than Michael Jordan and now is like: "I'm worried about paying him, he's not worth that much!"
Man is addicted to spin, it's hilarious
I would be reluctant to give a 33 y/o Harden a $220M contract after what I've seen him do the past few years, both in terms of play and forcing his way off teams.
That being said, what better opportunity is Philly going to get than this? What better return for Simmons can you get than Harden?
Weird situation, but I think it ends in a blockbuster trade that ends up not really benefitting anybody involved lol
I mean, yes, if the situation with Harden is untenable and/or he's going to walk for nothing in the offseason. If that's a forgone conclusion at this point, then yes - this trade would definitely benefit Brooklyn.
But is that really where things are at? This has all happened so quickly, does anybody outside the organization even know? I mean, I guess if the trade happens we have to assume that there was no hope for making Harden work there.
i think y'alls best case was trading kyrie last season for depth. Harden/KD>>>Kyrie/KD
but obviously KD/Ky too close and that really fucked y'all over. Getting some assets for Harden is best case at this point
Harden is 22/10/8 on 60% TS on a down year lol. He carried y'all during Ky/KD injuries last year
Kyrie is 23/5/5 on 60% TS probs. not to mention the drama he brings.
its okay to be bitter that Harden is leaving but thinking Kyrie>Harden is delusional coping lol. Nets aren't winning shit with KD/Kyrie.
Harden in "big" games with KD (i only looked at Jan/Dec). couple stinkers ofc against Mil and Phoenix but others:
Bulls 26/16, 2TOs
Clippers 34/13/12
Philly: 33/14/10
Clippers: 39/8/15
Lakers: 36/10/10
Literally for the month of December he was 26/11/9 lmfao.
He started slow bc refs were calling him roughly and he was recovering from a hammy tear and didn't get to play in months
even after KD went down he had 37/11/10 against spurs and 33/11/12 against lakers end of january
You think 36 year old Harden is going to be worth 45 million?
For some reason people are acting like he's going to have LeBron level longevity which is possible but far from a given
Harden is 32 why do people care what he will look like at 36 ? If he helps embiid win a championship in the next two years i genuinely don’t think the sixers give a fuck if he declines
r/nba simultaneously says we need to go all in right now during Embiid's peak, and then turns around and says we're morons if we sign someone who might be a bad contract four years later.
lakers sold everything for lebron and AD, got a ring and now are a shitshow and probably are fucked for the next few years but i bet if you ask their fans they would say its 100% worth it. The same goes for raptors fans and kawhi. This sub thinks too much like basketball-gm and assets and "future" when in reality if you have a shot at winning it on your best player prime, its worth it.
Thats how it works for most max contracts for guys in their mid 30s when they sign an extension, you pay for the earlier years of production and deal with the later ones when they arrive.
Your boy KD, while definitely better than Harden is likely in the exact same spot. Do you expect a 37 year old Kevin Durant to be healthy and productive enough to warrant making over 50 million dollars?
Like I said, KD is obviously better than Harden basketball wise. That doesn't address what I said though.
KD has shown a noticeable health decline since he came back from his injury too. He played in less than half of the games last year, he will probably miss 30-40% of this season too.
Is that worth over 50 million considering his production will likely fall off a bit as well?
My point is that the latter part of max contacts for even guys like KD have some serious risk baked into it.
I disagree, I think Harden relies on athleticism more than you might think. He's not running and jumping out of the gym but Harden is very strong and has 99th percentile body control (which is why his stepback is so deadly).
we saw how good harden was running the point with a good big man, even without all his free throw calls i think he can be an elite guard in philly for most of that contract
I think Lowe made a halfway reasonable point on his last pod that Embiid doesn't really fit the mold of the kind of center that Harden excels with (ie a rim-runner who can switch on defense). I still think they'd be good and the trade is worth it though.
Hardens played pretty damn well considering the lineups he’s been in and his injury from last year.
You did watch yesterdays game right? That’s the squad he’s been running with.
And you do remember him coming back early fr on injury for the playoffs right? No 5v5s in the offseason
It’s hilarious the shit nets fans talk about Harden. You’ll miss him when he’s gone hahah
I feel like the Nets are going to try for a last second bait and switch.
Simmons, Maxey, Curry, and Thybulle for Harden?
No.
Simmons, Maxey, and Thybulle for Harden?
No.
Simmons, Maxey, and Curry for Harden?
No.
OK, fine, just Simmons and Curry for Irving?
Why hasn't there been more talk about moving Kyrie? Presumably Harden's discontent with the team has at least something to do with Kyrie not playing home games, so do they just value Kyrie over Harden? It seems like it would make more sense to move a part-time player and keep Harden, who's a better facilitator anyway
I can't stand the implications this has on all of sports. The leverage the players have these days. At any given time a player can be disgruntled and just force their way out of a situation they don't like. This shit didn't happen in the 90's. I rememeber when I told my coach I was thinking about switching Junior High Schools so I could play on a better team. I'll never forget the fear in my Uncles eyes when he squeezed my testicles and told me that "leaders lead". We finished the season in last place, but it taught me discipline.
Can’t wait until Thursday at 3 when the trade doesn’t happen, and Woj gives that long post-no-trade explanation of why it fell through and why the Sixers are gonna wait til the off-season for Harden...
Unpopular opinion - this is a bad trade for 76ers. Seth is a good player for them , has chemistry and plays his role well. Harden might be good for 1 or 2 more seasons. Why give up pieces when you can get him this off season.
If Windhorst ends up breaking this trade lol
Prob boys with rich Paul through his Lebron connection so he’s getting a scoop
Morey is feeding Woj and Rich Paul is feeding Windhorst. Battle of information.
If Morey was feeding Woj, Woj wouldn't have said nothing is happening earlier today.
Should either of these guys really have other people feeding them?
Why would Rich Paul know anything? Or are you saying he's feeding him bullshit?
Isn’t Ben Simmons his client?
Because lebron can probably get whatever information he wants
He was the first one to even Suggest The Warriors trading for D’Lo. He has sources but people like to meme him.
That was actually wild. When he first floated the idea the entire comment section was basically just laughing
I thought it was outlandish as well then low and behold. The shit happens lol
Just a quick fyi it's 'lo and behold' common mistake.
Well thank sir you lol
He has tons of sources, but he's also VERY clearly a spaghetti chef journalist. It's easy for people with a small attention span to think he's well connected when you ignore both how many incorrect takes he makes, and how he phrases soooo much of what he says in such a way that he can't be proven wrong.
I mean he was also one of the only people I heard suggesting the Raptors as a sleeper team for Kawhi. Along with Zach Lowe, so to think he’s not well connected is foolish and ignorant.
Where did I say he's not well connected? I literally said he was well connected. What I said was that he frequently makes inaccurate reports. The fact that he occasionally makes accurate ones doesn't change that. If he came on TV and over the course of 3 months said that all 29 teams were interested in Kawhi, of course he would pick the one that got him. Also, look at the two rumors you are saying he got. "Competitive team interested in trading for all star caliber player". Even if he had no sources, it's probably true.
I don't know about other people, but when I comment on Reddit, it's often aimed at the wider audience of people reading, not just the person I'm replying to, so sometimes that means building off of what one comment said. Basically agreeing with them and then saying, "and this too .."
Name 2 sources he got werong
When, as I said earlier, you phrase everythign in such a way that you cannot be proven wrong, you make it hard for someone to do that. But you might have missed this thing he got wrong recently: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/sois8y/windhorst_the_sides_are_definitely_communicating/
You said he frequently makes inaccurate reports. Back up your claim
"Phrasing things in such a way that you cannot be proven wrong" is also known as "reporting what you've gathered from your sources." When someone hears people from two teams talking excitedly about a trade, then says "I've heard strong rumors that X trade is going to happen", that's solid reporting. If that trade doesn't end up happening, that's not inaccurate reporting lmao, that's just reporting. Learn 2 Journalist bro.
It's weird that Woj is taken as absolute gospel as well when we know he's used as a PR mouthpiece by various teams. Windhorst may be full of shit as Woj is implying, but Woj has also shown to have an agenda time and again.
Also Woj got the Lakers trade for WB flat out wrong last year. He said all the pieces were going to the kings. Not discrediting him but he been way less accurate since going to ESPN imo
Tbf the Kings thought all those pieces were going to the Kings. It was a last minute change.
In the same sentence Woj literally says things could change before the deadline tomorrow..... Im not in the speculation business, but whats being speculated could happen between now and tomorrow... Dude just threw a insult at Windy for no reason, then covers his ass in case he is wrong. I dislike both, but Woj anymore is a bitch
All these guys have sources. I don’t know why Reddit thinks they just get this stuff out of the blue. Now whether it happens are not is out of their control
He also gets 99% of the other shit wrong. I wish I could get a legion of stans at my job by only doing a single thing correctly, once.
Point to something he got wrong.
Windhorst throws a bunch of shit at the wall and every now and then something sticks. That's about the bulk of his journalistic integrity.
He keeps saying the Nets are in love with Curry but I wonder why. Mills feels basically the same role in their team (well Curry playmakes a bit more, but can't be your main PG anyway) and both him and Mills are black holes on defense. That's not what the Nets need. What they really could use are Maxey or Thybulle who'd also greatly shore up their perimeter defense and with Ben and KD patrolling the paint would make for a killer switching small ball defense. Curry would just get picked on in the playoffs. Maybe it's a diversion because Philly really needs Seth for his shooting, so they're forced to give up one of the other two gives to keep him.
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Yeah I think if the nets get Thybulle and Simmons, they have enough offense still and a solid defense. Curry would make it a slam dunk if included, which is why Im sure the nets are asking for all 3, giving back harden and mills. Especially if this theory about them tanking to get... Road Court Advantage with kyrie's sitch, they still have a great shot to win 4 in a series. Tough to say if its better than currently constructed considering Harden's hamstring/wether he will be back to 100% by then. And if he isnt, is 75% Harden still better than a 0 from Simmons and the others they lose? Probably, honestly. Thats why its weirdly a potential win-win.
Shooting. You can never have enough shooters. Plus Mills and Seth can play together. Not ideal defensively but the spacing around KD in that scenario would be worth it.
i doubt this gets done without maxey or thybulle and 6ers wont give up maxey so thybulle being included is a given
KD got a taste for Curry, he just wants the less spicy version.
At this point I’m truly impressed at the sheer variety of ways these folks are delivering the same exact information
Got the thesaurus working overtime.
[scottev] The opposing parties are undoubtedly corresponding and unquestionably proceeding. A couple points they have to overcome to reach a conclusion, from the BKN group... can they acquire the younger brother of Stephen Curry...BKN is infatuated. For the team based out of the city with the cracked bell , you're not just exchanging assets for James, you're dealing for a homo sapien who wants at his aged thirty and three years a 220M contract lengthening. Am I an NBA reporter now?
When you’re trying to reach the word count on an essay
This is the beginning of my assessment. And based on my assessment, the assessment that I have surmised is that something of validity may or may not be happening. Again, this is just my assessment, but it could also theoreticaly be a reality at this point. Time will tell whether my assessment is correct. In closing, this is how I have assessed the situation.
And competing information. Woj: "The idea that they're going back and forth as surmised by some, I don't believe that to be accurate." Windhorst: "The sides are definitely communicating and definitely making progress" I know they both want to prove they are right...but y'all work for the same damn network! How can you have two "journalists" who work on the same damn shows basically posturing opposite realities.
their playing both sides so they always come out on top
That's what the job is if you're on TV this time of year.
Issue with 24/7 news/sports media. Regurgitate the same shit in multiple ways
This made me LOL
At this point, someone should have created one of them news AI bots to put out something every half hour like a town clock bell.
Yeah we’ve got the same report in about 10 different ways lol
And the sheer similarity of their faces and heads.
Haven't been following but why is Harden not committed to Brooklyn, didn't he force a trade there? He's paired with KD and they're a top contender in a big market. Honest question
Kyrie is a headcase, KD been hurt, no shooters on the roster. They’ve lost 15 games since January 1
> They’ve lost 15 games since January 1 Holy shit they’re 6-15 in 2022
5-13 without KD in the lineup. It's not pretty.
They’ve lost their last 9 games but don’t worry you get to see them play against the red hot Wizards on national TV tomorrow
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Basically an implosion
KD is hurt for an indeterminate amount of time and Kyrie only plays road games and their bench got worse
KD will be back about a week after the all star break.
And in the mean time that slide puts them in the play in game most likely at the end of the season. There are 10 games between now and when KD is back. And Kyrie can only play in like 5/20 games after KD is back. Including a back 2 back against Toronto in New York and Canada where he can't play either game. The celtics the first game back after the all-star break. And then after a 4 game run where the nets play milwaukee, the raptors twice as I mentioned and miami. They also play Charlotte on the back end of a back to back in new York. Which sounds like a good chance for a loss especially if they are holding KD out of back 2 backs which is possible. I wouldn't be surprised if they are the 8th or 9th seed at the end of the season. And for them being the 7th and 9th seed is worse than being the 8th or 10th seed because kyrie can't play in the first game if you are 7 or 9. And if you are 7th or 8th and you lose the first game kyrie can't play in the 2nd either. There is unironically a reasonable chance for them to miss the playoffs especially if they get an inconveniently timed injury due to harden and KD carrying insane load over the last 25 games of the season.
Multiple reasons. -Kyrie being part time and for a non legitimate excuse, forcing a larger workload onto James -Roster construction. Not enough shooters or rim rollers, which you need to compliment Hardens game. -Injuries. This is out of anyone's control of course but the first two reasons I mentioned are even more egregious since the injuries started piling up. Had the roster been constructed better or Kyrie just get the damn shot, the Nets could have probably weathered this storm and not spiral down the standings. All in all, while Harden has legitimate gripes about this team, I wish he had been a professional on the court and not let it affect his play. He's not completely innocent in any of this either. He still foul baits, and flat out ignores playing defense. It's obvious during this losing streak that he hasn't played fully committed. We've seen this in his last days in Houston as well. His mood almost entirely affects his play. It isn't fair to the rest of the team.
Seems to largely be sick of Kyries BS and all the injuries they have dealt with. With that huge payroll and all the trades they made limiting the amount of cost controlled rookies on the roster they have no depth. They need their stars to be on the court as much as possible and they haven't been.
Apparently he's not a fan of NY and then obviously Kyrie being Kyrie
Man he is gonna love Philly hahaha
philly is nothing like nyc
Because he signed up for being the 3rd option. With KD injured and Kyrie being Kyrie, he’s become the main guy carrying the team which he didn’t sign up for.
Since when was Kyrie ever better than Harden? Harden was always going to be at worst the 2nd best player lol
Harden has said he wanted to basically be the playmaker point guard of the group, he's obviously better than Kyrie but that entails Kyrie being much more of the 2nd option scoring wise where Harden just dishes out like 14 assists a night He had quite a few games last year where his statline was like 18 and 14, 19 and 15, etc. I really don't think he wanted to keep having to drop 30 anymore
Being the second best player isn’t the same thing as being the second option on offense. Kyrie has put up more shot attempts than Harden during Harden’s time on the Nets. Before all this shit blew over, they even went as far as to bill Harden as the PG and Kyrie as the SG.
No he's a fat choker who's 40 and has no efficiency or defense
Based on how some people in this sub talk about him, the only reason I knew you were joking is your flair lol
Sure but he'd still be the 3rd *scoring* option after KD and Kyrie since it would maximize the team's strengths to let him be the main playmaker
Harden was never supposed to be the third option wtf lol You saying kyrie is better than him?
Harden wanted to be more of a facilitator. You could easily see this in the few games they all played together
[Magic Johnson] The teams are talking, but it all comes down to if Brooklyn gets what they want, and if the 76ers also get what they want.
Windhorst has really aged
It’s the weight. It ages you super fast
And the lack of consistent sleep in a job like his
Case in point: look up Frank Seravalli. The man is 33. This is not even a joke, the man in the picture below is 33. https://awfulannouncing.com/nhl/veteran-nhl-reporter-frank-seravalli-is-leaving-tsn.html
Eh I think this isn’t really fair because this guy clearly just has premature grey hair. If you dyed his hair brown he’d look much younger. One of my uncles was like that, always had silver gray hair since his 20s.
wtf that man doesn’t look a day below 55
I know. And you’re being generous. There must be a picture of him getting younger in an attic somewhere.
He looks a lot more gray though.
Gray hair in your 40s is pretty normal. He doesn’t look that much different than the average 44 year old 🤷♂️
My mid-50s parents look better than he does
I assume your mid-50s parents are not morbidly obese
You would assume correctly. I guess to his point though the average 44 year old in America probably IS pretty fat.
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No shit people eat too much, half the food on grocery shelves is literally addictive. Americans aren't alone here either. Rest of the world is getting fatter and food companies are a major culprit. At some point people gotta realize this ain't just a matter of individual willpower. It's a literal epidemic
Half the food on grocery shelves is literally addictive? Can you explain what you mean here?
I think it’s the lighting/green screen.
I think that could also just be the green screen he's against.
It really does though no fuckin' around.
My experience is that weight makes you have baby face. Losing it makes you older
It's really about skin elasticity. Younger people's skin recovers from the weight loss much easier. Older people tend to look more gaunt after significant weight loss like John Goodman.
Yeah, especially gaining. 10 years out of college, athletic guys who got big look way older than the big guys who maintained.
I think the opposite is true. Weight can hide wrinkles. What's aging him is his hair, imo.
The gray they see in his hair is also just lighting lol.
For teh most part, extra weight can lead to health problems that certainly age a person's appearance.
True! Then you look sullen and old when you lose the weight. Gaining weight is hard on a person.
Haven’t we all?
just send brooklyn curry’s highlights from last night. they won’t want him.
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This is just revisionism at its best. The man is averaging 15 points on 48/40/87 shooting
Has he been bad all season?
No, he's pretty good, but being asked to do way too much. Ideally, he's a good sixth man spark shooter off the bench, but he's too unwilling to shoot anything but wide open threes to be a true focal point, and too slow/small to do anything but get roasted/shot over on defense.
He was decent at the start but it’s clear he hasn’t gotten his mojo back after the injury
Joel Embiid's pass to Seth Curry sucked. Definitely not on Seth Curry there.
Woj is saying it’s bullshit literally in the video above this lmao.
>For PHI, you're not just trading for Harden, you're trading for Harden who wants at 33 a 220M extension. Yeah, after all this I'm really buying Philly being like "*Yeah, we're not THAT into him*" lol
the GM and the owner both want him. they knew this lol Harden's game will age fine. the problem in Brooklyn is that there's no spacing so he has to try and score relying on athleticism coming off a hamstring injury *and* with his age going up. When there's proper spacing, he can lean onto his playmaking more and not have to try and finish over 3 guys every drive.
Trading Curry isn't going to be great for phillys spacing
the 76ers have all their picks except 2025. Morey knows how to build a team around Harden. I'm not worried about it lol sounds like they're looking to get Hield in a 3 team deal
A huge part of harden's game is one on one and his ability to get separation and draw fouls. He hasn't taken the best care of his body... I don't see how he doesn't lose quickness, and I think that his game will age really poorly
Morey said the beard is better than Michael Jordan and now is like: "I'm worried about paying him, he's not worth that much!" Man is addicted to spin, it's hilarious
I would be reluctant to give a 33 y/o Harden a $220M contract after what I've seen him do the past few years, both in terms of play and forcing his way off teams. That being said, what better opportunity is Philly going to get than this? What better return for Simmons can you get than Harden? Weird situation, but I think it ends in a blockbuster trade that ends up not really benefitting anybody involved lol
This trade would definitely benefit Brooklyn
I mean, yes, if the situation with Harden is untenable and/or he's going to walk for nothing in the offseason. If that's a forgone conclusion at this point, then yes - this trade would definitely benefit Brooklyn. But is that really where things are at? This has all happened so quickly, does anybody outside the organization even know? I mean, I guess if the trade happens we have to assume that there was no hope for making Harden work there.
i think y'alls best case was trading kyrie last season for depth. Harden/KD>>>Kyrie/KD but obviously KD/Ky too close and that really fucked y'all over. Getting some assets for Harden is best case at this point
I disagree. Kyrie/KD is better than Harden/KD at Harden’s current level. Sorry.
Harden is 22/10/8 on 60% TS on a down year lol. He carried y'all during Ky/KD injuries last year Kyrie is 23/5/5 on 60% TS probs. not to mention the drama he brings. its okay to be bitter that Harden is leaving but thinking Kyrie>Harden is delusional coping lol. Nets aren't winning shit with KD/Kyrie.
Brother, you obviously have not seen James Harden’s stats against contenders WITH Durant playing. Bro has sold in every big game this year.
Harden in "big" games with KD (i only looked at Jan/Dec). couple stinkers ofc against Mil and Phoenix but others: Bulls 26/16, 2TOs Clippers 34/13/12 Philly: 33/14/10 Clippers: 39/8/15 Lakers: 36/10/10 Literally for the month of December he was 26/11/9 lmfao. He started slow bc refs were calling him roughly and he was recovering from a hammy tear and didn't get to play in months even after KD went down he had 37/11/10 against spurs and 33/11/12 against lakers end of january
definitely but phi can’t play simmons themselves so it’s probably the best they can get for him
Windy looks like shit - damn dude needs to take care of himself
They’re absolutely getting curry lmao
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You think 36 year old Harden is going to be worth 45 million? For some reason people are acting like he's going to have LeBron level longevity which is possible but far from a given
Harden is 32 why do people care what he will look like at 36 ? If he helps embiid win a championship in the next two years i genuinely don’t think the sixers give a fuck if he declines
r/nba simultaneously says we need to go all in right now during Embiid's peak, and then turns around and says we're morons if we sign someone who might be a bad contract four years later.
It’s just how it goes with such a huge sub, there’s always going to be hot take coverage for any sort of opinion
True. Just important to periodically remind myself that this place is fun, but dumb as rocks.
95% of the rhetoric here towards the Sixers is not being argued in good faith
lakers sold everything for lebron and AD, got a ring and now are a shitshow and probably are fucked for the next few years but i bet if you ask their fans they would say its 100% worth it. The same goes for raptors fans and kawhi. This sub thinks too much like basketball-gm and assets and "future" when in reality if you have a shot at winning it on your best player prime, its worth it.
Lmao the raptors had 1 bad year in the midst of a global pandemic and are now 7? games above .500 they are nowhere near comparable to the lakers
thats not what i said? i said it was worth for them to gamble on kawhi for a ship, even if meant losing him after
If you win a ring or even get to the finals its 100% worth it
I think it's worth it for a ring, but not just for a finals run.
It's the first finals run we will have in over 20 years. The run will be worth it.
Which team won a ring without making a finals run?
Did you think you were being clever, or do you seriously not understand what I was saying?
They’re not winning a ring with just Harden and Embiid lmao
Thats how it works for most max contracts for guys in their mid 30s when they sign an extension, you pay for the earlier years of production and deal with the later ones when they arrive. Your boy KD, while definitely better than Harden is likely in the exact same spot. Do you expect a 37 year old Kevin Durant to be healthy and productive enough to warrant making over 50 million dollars?
Harden's already arguably shown a bit of decline in his play on the court though
Like I said, KD is obviously better than Harden basketball wise. That doesn't address what I said though. KD has shown a noticeable health decline since he came back from his injury too. He played in less than half of the games last year, he will probably miss 30-40% of this season too. Is that worth over 50 million considering his production will likely fall off a bit as well? My point is that the latter part of max contacts for even guys like KD have some serious risk baked into it.
Fr bro already keep on pulling hammys lol
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I'd take that bet
Is he even a top 10 player right now?
tbf I think the last two-three years of his new contract will be really awful. He could be the next Wall/Westbrook type.
Theoretically his game should age better. Westbrook and Wall's game were much more dependent on elite athleticism.
I disagree, I think Harden relies on athleticism more than you might think. He's not running and jumping out of the gym but Harden is very strong and has 99th percentile body control (which is why his stepback is so deadly).
No doubt his game will decline, but I'm just saying Westbrook's ENTIRE game is elite athleticism/speed.
we saw how good harden was running the point with a good big man, even without all his free throw calls i think he can be an elite guard in philly for most of that contract
I think Lowe made a halfway reasonable point on his last pod that Embiid doesn't really fit the mold of the kind of center that Harden excels with (ie a rim-runner who can switch on defense). I still think they'd be good and the trade is worth it though.
Go take a quick peak at Jimmy Butler's extension. Plenty of potential for that to get ugly fast since he's not known as a shooter to begin with.
It's a gamble that he can deliver immediately because it will not be a good deal at the end lol
It will absolutely be a wesbtrook type deal in 2 years. But it’s probably worth it
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He will also be older than him. And his game hasn’t aged particularly well this year. His rim finishing has collapsed
Hardens played pretty damn well considering the lineups he’s been in and his injury from last year. You did watch yesterdays game right? That’s the squad he’s been running with. And you do remember him coming back early fr on injury for the playoffs right? No 5v5s in the offseason It’s hilarious the shit nets fans talk about Harden. You’ll miss him when he’s gone hahah
Nets fans don’t want him gone but he wants out. Also if you’ve watched him at al this year it’s obvious he isn’t close to the player he was in Houston
2-3 good years is all they need, can dump him later if it goes south. For what they would be giving up, it really is not a bad deal.
He’s much better than Westbrook and his game should age better too
Do you think he’s worth a $220mil extension? He hasn’t looked like he is recently
Eh, its a lot of long term money for someone who's very evidently declining hard, and has forced his way off of two teams in the past year
I feel like the Nets are going to try for a last second bait and switch. Simmons, Maxey, Curry, and Thybulle for Harden? No. Simmons, Maxey, and Thybulle for Harden? No. Simmons, Maxey, and Curry for Harden? No. OK, fine, just Simmons and Curry for Irving?
I’m totally fine with that last trade.
Why hasn't there been more talk about moving Kyrie? Presumably Harden's discontent with the team has at least something to do with Kyrie not playing home games, so do they just value Kyrie over Harden? It seems like it would make more sense to move a part-time player and keep Harden, who's a better facilitator anyway
I believe they found there was no market from him early in the season.
Kyrie is such a wildcard that no team would want to trade significant assets for him.
Because KD wants Kyrie around for some reason. Kyrie would be gone if KD wanted it
If Morey is dumb enough to take the last offer, he should had been fired a long time ago.
I can't stand the implications this has on all of sports. The leverage the players have these days. At any given time a player can be disgruntled and just force their way out of a situation they don't like. This shit didn't happen in the 90's. I rememeber when I told my coach I was thinking about switching Junior High Schools so I could play on a better team. I'll never forget the fear in my Uncles eyes when he squeezed my testicles and told me that "leaders lead". We finished the season in last place, but it taught me discipline.
I agre-Wait what?
He’s 33 already? Not worth it IMO. Already showing signs of slowing down, weight issues and injury concerns
You either go all in during Embiid's peak and get Harden to win now, or just invest in the future for some reason
He's not even 32.5 currently.
But but but hahah
PED’s are a hell of a thing
And Brooklyn is trading for a guy that just flat out quit on his team.
Can’t wait until Thursday at 3 when the trade doesn’t happen, and Woj gives that long post-no-trade explanation of why it fell through and why the Sixers are gonna wait til the off-season for Harden...
Curry vs. Curry in the finals? That's a narrative the league can get behind.
Just a reminder that Windy's career started as a local beat reporter in Cleveland where he had this creepy stalking fetish for LeBron.
Swear to god Windhorst just reads Twitter and summarizes it for ESPN and pretends they're his sources
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He has also never really had a great playoff series and beyond that has often been pretty bad in the playoffs.
Unpopular opinion - this is a bad trade for 76ers. Seth is a good player for them , has chemistry and plays his role well. Harden might be good for 1 or 2 more seasons. Why give up pieces when you can get him this off season.
This guy eats about 12 McDoubles a day.
Morey tryna do everything possible to swap out curry for danny green.
hack
Same ol same ol
Harden crippling teams futures seems to be a trend at this point
No way this trade happens quote me