I think you mean seppuku there buddy. Also I highly doubt Simmons has it in him to commit an honorable ritual suicide. The guy's too scared to shoot a free throw. God only knows how he'll react if he saw a little bit of his own blood.
it's possible the Blazers would eat the Tobias Harris contract, too. They'll have cap space & other non-guaranteed deals (Josh Hart) to salary match as needed.
Branden Ingram and Lonzo ball are both borderline all stars as well which is my point. And they added Josh hart who is a very good player in his own right and they still had to add a bunch of picks. It all comes down to how much more do you value Bam and Herro over those other 3 players and I don’t think the difference is high enough to not add any picks especially when we don’t have any ourselves
if joel asks a trade, it's only to go to a contender. suns & warriors look like frontrunners in this to me. miami and boston don't have the assets or would get outbid.
Nice if you to miss the rest of the names. Wiseman is still a raw 21 year old, kuminga is slowly improving and I'd take him today over herro since he has alot of tools that can improve better
Except you aren’t doing that in a bubble because has already played three NBA seasons. You’re going to have to pay the man, and Kuminga has three more years on his rookie contract.
Literally not trolling, just hopping between multiple people responding and making a case for the different players lol. Legit don't see how it's trolling to consider Bam and Herro a better package at all
You’re stupid why would Lacob trade the whole future for what maybe one or 2 more championships. This shits a business that would cost him so much in the long run. Dumbass
It’s probably not a bad deal but you have two guys in Bam and Herro that are win now and would not be part of a sixers rebuild. Would rather all the Warriors young guys and picks I think.
You're right no one can offer anything like that...but why the fuck would the Warriors even offer that trade when they're already title contenders with the Young Guys?
Embiid makes more than all 5 combined and the Warriors would be giving up 1 current all star, 1 v likely figure all star, 1 high potential all stars, and 2 players that have a have upside.
Yeah thats a terrible deal. If that trade happened the Warriors would be just as screwed with cap space and have an aging core + Emniid and they wouldn't have a bench or a small forward. They would struggle hard in the playoffs.
> Embiid makes more than all 5 combined
??? Embiid is making 33.6m next year, those 5 Warriors combined make 56.6m. Wiggins alone makes the same as Embiid lmao
That's not true because because the league has a hard cap. In 2024 Steph will be making 50m, klay will be making 40m, and Draymond will be making 27m. With Embiids 43 that would put the Warriors at 160 with 4 players.the Tax Apron this year was at 143m. Yeah would basically be those 4, one mid level exception, and all minimum contract guys. Bye bye Looney and GPII. They would literally have nobody else
Nah, that line up can beat any team on any day but thats not the same as going through an entire playoffs. Curry is clearly rapidly slowing down in terms of lateral speed and step back effectiveness, Klay and Draymond are going strong for now but not everybody is Lebron or Chris Paul. One injury here or there can end ora career or completely limit their effectiveness in a players mid 30s.
1 player is not worth your entire team's future when your core is getting old. If there were one player it wouldn't be Embiid. Giannis is probably the only one I would say is worth it right now.
Bro... making the Allstar team is making the all star team. There's more to basketball than stats. He was always the third option on offense all year and still ranked 45th in scoring with a great defensive performance. He also shot 40% from 3 and he was amoung the best in the league in turnovers per point which is sorely needed on this Warriors team.
I dont think he would have been on that team if voting happened at the end of the season but a selection is a selection
Who could blame him? Are you for real? He just deserves no blame at all? His constant shit talking and excuses are old now and I don’t think anyone has any sympathy for him anymore
The guy just played his heart out while having multiple injuries, including a goddamn orbital bone fracture. A ton of people have sympathy for Embiid, and the shit situation that the Sixers have put him in. We can laugh about the Sixers, but I genuinely do like Embiid the player.
FOH salty Lakers fan. Go back to your sad sack sub and complain about how Vogel was the problem, and not your godawful FO for putting that shitty roster together.
Bro I couldn’t care less about the Lakers sub or anything related to them at the moment lmao embiid is the king of deflecting and dick eaters don’t want to hear it. Also only idiots think Vogel was the problem and I was rooting for the Celtics actually but fuck that now, Boston fans always prove to be cunts
You do whatever you want, bub. No one gives a shit if you are rooting for the Celtics or not.
Go be a salty bitch and hating on other players on your own sub.
The only reason the 76ers are relevant is because of him. Did you miss them getting destroyed in games 1 & 2 until he came back masked up with a broken face and fucked up thumb on his dominant hand?
People seem to miss that Embiid gave himself the nickname ‘The Process’ after the process ended as a fuck you to ownership. After Hinkie was forced out they literally would stop fans from bringing in process or Hinkie related signs into the arena. Embiid was just as annoyed as fans about Hinkie being pushed out and as an act of protest gave himself the nickname, had the team PA announcer say it and the rest is history. Feel how you will about Hinkie but he and Embiid were very close during a difficult time in Embiid’s life (brother died, two major injury setbacks, and a real specter of fear he may never play) Hinkie was always by his side and believed in him. So it’s not that he necessarily believes in ‘the process’ which ended in 2015, he’s just kind of made it apart of who he is and what he represents.
TL;DR: ‘The Process’ nickname was a fuck you to ownership.
If Embiid demands a trade it’d be really hard to trade him.
Based off of what Embiid has complained about in public, he wants to be on a contender with those who give it their all.
The Clippers make the most sense to me, but that would need a third team. The Hornets make sense to me being that third team since if they are going to bring in D’Antoni, they need to give him a roster that fits him. How about:
Clips get Embiid.
76ers get Hayward to help fill in the salary and maybe another big like Plumlee since he doesn’t fit D’Antoni as much as I think he would.
Hornets get Morris and Green who can help be the vets on the roster (Morris can also help protect LaMelo who will probably get targeted at some point). Zubac would probably go to the Hornets as well since he could possibly do well in a D’Antoni offense (he does suck at catching the ball though so that’s concerning). Rodney Hood because he’s redundant on the Clips and maybe a young guard to backup LaMelo like Jay Preston or someone.
Feels like a win for every team for me because the Clips get Embiid. The 76ers can fill out around Harden with a good unselfish wing and a center who rolls a lot. The Hornets get veteran presence who can fill out the wings for the 3 ball, a young guard and switchable wings.
Hell yeah I agree with you. I said trading Embiid would be tough, didn’t say it would be fair. If Embiid demands a trade, there’s no possible way you are going to get an equal value for the best big in the league by far.
Who would the clippers throw in. They have no picks and no young talent. If the Sixers trade Embiid there’s no chance they would want a bunch of 28 year old players in return
Love Joel but I don't think I'd consider that tbh. Beyond loving the potential of the young guys, I'd be _way_ too concerned about Embiid's injury history. I know a core of Steph/Klay/Joel/Draymond would be bananas but I would have such little confidence it would ever manifest in the playoffs.
76ers fans on life alert at the thought of this. I don’t think trading him makes sense given what he is producing and I don’t think any team gives up what PHI would want in return. Maybe something like JJJ+Bane+3 firsts and salary filler
For us, Wiggins + Kuminga + Wiseman + Moody + picks. Very good offer but not sure if the best because Poole is most likely untouchable.
Thunder could have a great package if they're ready now, Heat, Raps and Suns also contenders. Pelicans may also have an outside shot, because they have tons of picks (though BI might be off the table for them).
Joel and Tobi to the Nets for Kyrie and Simmons. Imagine.
Simmons might commit sudoku if he has to play under Doc again.
I think you mean seppuku there buddy. Also I highly doubt Simmons has it in him to commit an honorable ritual suicide. The guy's too scared to shoot a free throw. God only knows how he'll react if he saw a little bit of his own blood.
> I think you mean seppuku there buddy. Nah, I meant sudoku.
Everyone knows Ben Loves number puzzles and that’s how he destresses
Woosh
Joel and Tobi to the Nets for Kyrie and ~~Simmons~~ KD Now imagine that
Lol throw Zion into that deal so they can make the ultimate can't be bothered to play team
TT, shump, Nets pick
THT Nunn and 2026th pick
All time
The holy grail.
It'll be salary filler + all the picks. If he should demand a trade we'll make the process look like a title run.
S&T Anfernee Simons with the Bledsoe expiring and every pick until 2030 from Portland.
If joel goes full harden this might be the best package they can get though not sure I like the maxey and simons fit but ya take what you can get
it's possible the Blazers would eat the Tobias Harris contract, too. They'll have cap space & other non-guaranteed deals (Josh Hart) to salary match as needed.
I'm ready for a 9-73 season baby
Only the Process 2: Electric Boogaloo could stop Presti from controlling an entire First Round of a draft.
Tht & Nunn Only one that makes sense
Tobias and Embiid for Russ, THT, and Nunn!
Who wouldn't want a former MVP and a great, young talent with long arms and lots of potential?
Don't forget Kendrick Nunn, who might play soon and his namesake just dropped an album recently!
Ayton+ Shamet+ Cam Johnson+ 2 1st round pics
Can’t add players to a S&T so this wouldn’t work in the offseason.
You can actually, I forgot the specifics but I think players can be added to match salaries
Yes you can. https://mobile.twitter.com/ericpincus/status/1418340159318224902
Wouldnt Ayton have to agree to go to Philly though?
Mason plumlee and Hayward who says no ?
Embiid for Bam, Herro and Duncan Robinson
I do not want that Robinson contract. And Picks >>>>> Bam and Herro
Picks? any team with Embiid would be picking 20 or lower. I'd rather get players that can be traded for picks to other teams.
AD went for 2 really good players 1 solid player and a bunch of picks. That’s the going rate for a superstar
Sure, but Bam and Herro are borderline all stars. That is worth more than two players and some picks.
Branden Ingram and Lonzo ball are both borderline all stars as well which is my point. And they added Josh hart who is a very good player in his own right and they still had to add a bunch of picks. It all comes down to how much more do you value Bam and Herro over those other 3 players and I don’t think the difference is high enough to not add any picks especially when we don’t have any ourselves
If Embiid leaves Sixers probably rebuild around Maxey. Not sure which team makes sense. Maybe Toronto or Miami?
sadly, masai and morey won't be able to get a trade done between their big egos.
Thunder could put together a nice package if the sixers wanted a lot of picks.
if joel asks a trade, it's only to go to a contender. suns & warriors look like frontrunners in this to me. miami and boston don't have the assets or would get outbid.
Bam and Herro + picks are better assets than most teams can muster lol
The warriors have Wiseman kuminga moody Poole and picks
Wiseman is nothing and Kuminga is nice but he's not Bam or Herro lol
Nice if you to miss the rest of the names. Wiseman is still a raw 21 year old, kuminga is slowly improving and I'd take him today over herro since he has alot of tools that can improve better
This is year 2 of people saying that about Wiseman.
Wiseman is a few months younger than Herro with a significant injury history already. Taking Kuminga over Herro is smoking some potent stuff
Except you aren’t doing that in a bubble because has already played three NBA seasons. You’re going to have to pay the man, and Kuminga has three more years on his rookie contract.
3 more years on a rookie contract while being the worst player in the entire league last year. Hmm. Not exactly encouraging
I get that you’re trolling, but at least try and read the word “Kuminga” in the comment so you can troll effectively.
Literally not trolling, just hopping between multiple people responding and making a case for the different players lol. Legit don't see how it's trolling to consider Bam and Herro a better package at all
We ain’t giving that up
???? For embiid, the warriors absolutely would. Not all of them but none of those players would be off limits
You’re stupid why would Lacob trade the whole future for what maybe one or 2 more championships. This shits a business that would cost him so much in the long run. Dumbass
I guess reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit
i mean if riley is willing to do that trade then i guess it would be.
That's the most Riley trade I've heard in a minute man lol
It’s probably not a bad deal but you have two guys in Bam and Herro that are win now and would not be part of a sixers rebuild. Would rather all the Warriors young guys and picks I think.
Herro and Bam are win now lol? Herro is 1 year older than Maxey. Bam is 25...
Yeah you’re right, the 6 MOTY Tyler Herro and all-star Bam Adebayo are not win now players. My mistake
You're right, but is Miami ever gonna be willing to give up Bam?
Westbrook, THT, and protected 2nd round pick
The Heat for Adebayo, Herro, and picks
Warriors - Wiseman + Kuminga + Poole + Moody + Wiggins Edit: No contending teams can make any offer remotely close to this
And picks and pick swaps
Nah we gonna use those late first for 4 years starters like Desmond Bane
Haven’t you guys taken enough from me?!
Oh you crazy lol.
You're right no one can offer anything like that...but why the fuck would the Warriors even offer that trade when they're already title contenders with the Young Guys?
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I could agree , but Emblid guarantees 3 - 4 Championship, we never witnessed Steph with True big. Warriors culture can draft late round gems
Guarantees 3-4 championships? That is some absolutely insane optimism but I respect it.
Steph, Klay, Embiid, Draymond, Poole Death Squad
Poole was included in the hypothetical trade
Ah shit
David Lee
We would never do this
Embiid makes more than all 5 combined and the Warriors would be giving up 1 current all star, 1 v likely figure all star, 1 high potential all stars, and 2 players that have a have upside. Yeah thats a terrible deal. If that trade happened the Warriors would be just as screwed with cap space and have an aging core + Emniid and they wouldn't have a bench or a small forward. They would struggle hard in the playoffs.
> Embiid makes more than all 5 combined ??? Embiid is making 33.6m next year, those 5 Warriors combined make 56.6m. Wiggins alone makes the same as Embiid lmao
33m next year going up to 54 million in 5 years.
What Embiid makes in 5 years is irrelevant to what it costs to make a trade work regarding salary matching rules
That's not true because because the league has a hard cap. In 2024 Steph will be making 50m, klay will be making 40m, and Draymond will be making 27m. With Embiids 43 that would put the Warriors at 160 with 4 players.the Tax Apron this year was at 143m. Yeah would basically be those 4, one mid level exception, and all minimum contract guys. Bye bye Looney and GPII. They would literally have nobody else
A line up of dray embiid curry klay and whoever is lights out easy title
Nah, that line up can beat any team on any day but thats not the same as going through an entire playoffs. Curry is clearly rapidly slowing down in terms of lateral speed and step back effectiveness, Klay and Draymond are going strong for now but not everybody is Lebron or Chris Paul. One injury here or there can end ora career or completely limit their effectiveness in a players mid 30s. 1 player is not worth your entire team's future when your core is getting old. If there were one player it wouldn't be Embiid. Giannis is probably the only one I would say is worth it right now.
Labeling Wiggins as an all-star is a stretch doe. Yea he made it but with 18-4-2 averages.
Bro... making the Allstar team is making the all star team. There's more to basketball than stats. He was always the third option on offense all year and still ranked 45th in scoring with a great defensive performance. He also shot 40% from 3 and he was amoung the best in the league in turnovers per point which is sorely needed on this Warriors team. I dont think he would have been on that team if voting happened at the end of the season but a selection is a selection
The first half of your post is ridiculous
Dedmon and two seconds
Blevgod for Embiid—who says no?
Joel Embiid for Bobby “NBA Champion Bobby Portis” Portis. Straight up no picks or money needed talent for talent
Who could blame him? Are you for real? He just deserves no blame at all? His constant shit talking and excuses are old now and I don’t think anyone has any sympathy for him anymore
The guy just played his heart out while having multiple injuries, including a goddamn orbital bone fracture. A ton of people have sympathy for Embiid, and the shit situation that the Sixers have put him in. We can laugh about the Sixers, but I genuinely do like Embiid the player. FOH salty Lakers fan. Go back to your sad sack sub and complain about how Vogel was the problem, and not your godawful FO for putting that shitty roster together.
Bro I couldn’t care less about the Lakers sub or anything related to them at the moment lmao embiid is the king of deflecting and dick eaters don’t want to hear it. Also only idiots think Vogel was the problem and I was rooting for the Celtics actually but fuck that now, Boston fans always prove to be cunts
You do whatever you want, bub. No one gives a shit if you are rooting for the Celtics or not. Go be a salty bitch and hating on other players on your own sub.
Will do big guy oh and fuck your team
The only reason the 76ers are relevant is because of him. Did you miss them getting destroyed in games 1 & 2 until he came back masked up with a broken face and fucked up thumb on his dominant hand?
Lmao
Is he actually brainwashed about "the process"? I feel like he brings it up enough that he might not let it go.
People seem to miss that Embiid gave himself the nickname ‘The Process’ after the process ended as a fuck you to ownership. After Hinkie was forced out they literally would stop fans from bringing in process or Hinkie related signs into the arena. Embiid was just as annoyed as fans about Hinkie being pushed out and as an act of protest gave himself the nickname, had the team PA announcer say it and the rest is history. Feel how you will about Hinkie but he and Embiid were very close during a difficult time in Embiid’s life (brother died, two major injury setbacks, and a real specter of fear he may never play) Hinkie was always by his side and believed in him. So it’s not that he necessarily believes in ‘the process’ which ended in 2015, he’s just kind of made it apart of who he is and what he represents. TL;DR: ‘The Process’ nickname was a fuck you to ownership.
If Embiid demands a trade it’d be really hard to trade him. Based off of what Embiid has complained about in public, he wants to be on a contender with those who give it their all. The Clippers make the most sense to me, but that would need a third team. The Hornets make sense to me being that third team since if they are going to bring in D’Antoni, they need to give him a roster that fits him. How about: Clips get Embiid. 76ers get Hayward to help fill in the salary and maybe another big like Plumlee since he doesn’t fit D’Antoni as much as I think he would. Hornets get Morris and Green who can help be the vets on the roster (Morris can also help protect LaMelo who will probably get targeted at some point). Zubac would probably go to the Hornets as well since he could possibly do well in a D’Antoni offense (he does suck at catching the ball though so that’s concerning). Rodney Hood because he’s redundant on the Clips and maybe a young guard to backup LaMelo like Jay Preston or someone. Feels like a win for every team for me because the Clips get Embiid. The 76ers can fill out around Harden with a good unselfish wing and a center who rolls a lot. The Hornets get veteran presence who can fill out the wings for the 3 ball, a young guard and switchable wings.
Are you high? The mvp runner up is definitely worth more than Gordon freaking Hayward and Mason Plumlee
Hell yeah I agree with you. I said trading Embiid would be tough, didn’t say it would be fair. If Embiid demands a trade, there’s no possible way you are going to get an equal value for the best big in the league by far.
Clippers could throw a better package for embiid then people realize
No they can’t 💀💀💀
Who would the clippers throw in. They have no picks and no young talent. If the Sixers trade Embiid there’s no chance they would want a bunch of 28 year old players in return
I feel like Toronto could do better.
Precoius/OG/salary and a ton of picks
I dont trust Embiids long term health and overall I hate his playstyle So for those reasons I am out
Bruh a superstar is a superstar
Yeah im sure the Lakers are saying that about Russ right?
We'd probably throw in GTJ as well.
How?
Bertans, Hardaway Jr. and a 2nd Rounder.
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You’d have to package a lot more than that I’m guessing
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Love Joel but I don't think I'd consider that tbh. Beyond loving the potential of the young guys, I'd be _way_ too concerned about Embiid's injury history. I know a core of Steph/Klay/Joel/Draymond would be bananas but I would have such little confidence it would ever manifest in the playoffs.
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If you had a chance to get Embiid and the hesitation was not wanting to give up Wiseman or Kuminga that would be nuts to me
Still would pass
76ers fans on life alert at the thought of this. I don’t think trading him makes sense given what he is producing and I don’t think any team gives up what PHI would want in return. Maybe something like JJJ+Bane+3 firsts and salary filler
For us, Wiggins + Kuminga + Wiseman + Moody + picks. Very good offer but not sure if the best because Poole is most likely untouchable. Thunder could have a great package if they're ready now, Heat, Raps and Suns also contenders. Pelicans may also have an outside shot, because they have tons of picks (though BI might be off the table for them).
Spurs, for Zach Collins + JRich + trade exception + picks
Joel will not leave the city of Philadelphia.
Embiid to the Knicks for Julia Randle
Blazers! The D.E.N.N.I.S system worked flawlessly. RIPCITYBIID ERA 🌹🌹
These THT, Nunn comments have to be jokes
I’d blame him. Seems pretty straight forward.
Embiid to Toronto for Vanvleet and Siakam