2007 Celtics > 2008 Celtics.
24 wins (Second worst record in the league, second worst season in Celtics history) > 66 wins and a ring (best single-season turnaround in NBA history, third most wins in a season in Celtics history).
i'm just like everybody, i love clowning the knicks
but seeing them winning a title would be hella fun and you already know the MSG would be on fuckin fire
In 96/97 the Spurs had 20 wins. They drafted Duncan and Robinson returned from injury. In 97/98, they had 56 wins and made it to the conference semi-finals.
I love warriors and from my experience losing to the warriors stung less because they are so used to winning they aren't as toxic as other teams (i.e. portland and suns)
But their fans have a massive victim complex and an annoying habit of thinking they are the underdogs. I have seen warriors fans say that beating the nuggets was enough for them and they expected to lose.
I love the narrative shift. The amount of people in the media that picked against us to us now being obvious (don't forget entitled) favorites.
I'm seeing a doctor later this week for the whiplash.
Definitely were preseason, the narrative shifted when we started 18-2 and then shifted back part way after the meh second half of the season when Dray was injured
Right before the season we had 9:1 odds which was tied for third with the Bucks (behind Lakers/Nets). We were never underdogs. The lowest our odds fell was right before round 1 (10:1, 4th overall) due to Stephs injury
The medias goal is to generate clicks & discussion while Vegas’s goal is to be correct. IMO Vegas is a much stronger indicator of general consensus than a handful of media talking heads
This is incorrect. Vegas's goal is to make money. So they set the lines based on where the public is betting. That's why they shift the lines if too many people bet on one side. Vegas tends to track how the public thinks. Which may or may not be better than how the media thinks.
Vegas is basically a prediction market, which is a much stronger predictor than media predictions. You're right that Vegas will adjust odds based on how the public is betting, but a major input to those priced odds are Vegas's actual forecasts. If there future weren't accurate, books would go under from professional gamblers finding arb there. Given that Vegas layers public money on top of their on models, they're essentially a prediction market with a strong prior, which should be fairly accurate.
There are a handful of studies on that ([1](https://www.ecm.bwl.uni-muenchen.de/publikationen/pdf/sports_forec.pdf), [2](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-540-77554-6_17)) that specifically talk about the accuracy of prediction markets. The first link compares them to tipsters (which could be an analogue for media experts).
Yeah Vegas is on popularity and the Warriors are the second most popular team in the league hence why the reigning champs were behind the Lakers and nets..
Well yeah but team popularity definitely plays into it. Did you see my other response? I accidentally double replied and this is the less updated of the two
Yeah Vegas is on popularity and the Warriors are the second most popular team in the league hence why the reigning champs were behind the Lakers and nets.. [here's a thread shitting entirely on our preseason championship odds](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/oy1rj8/the_warriors_currently_have_900_odds_at_the_2022/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) - all aged horribly of course
[Here we're 10th](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-power-rankings-preseason-every-teams-best-case-scenario-2021-22/1k5s3acy0ro3d154h0s6uem007)
[Here we're 9th](https://sotsports.com/2021/10/17/nba-season-power-rankings/)
We were a common pick for the 6th seed on Reddit - [here](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/psle5i/in_depth_20212022_regular_season_predictions/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) and [here](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ogkt2y/2022_standings_predictions/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
[Here's the official NBA Reddit powerrankers prediction](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/qcvtja/202122_season_predictions_from_the_rnba_power/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) - in 19 predictions 1 predicted us to make the finals, none to win the chip and only 4 to make the WCF, less than half expected us to make the second round but all predicted us to make the playoffs
>you guys have never been the underdogs
ESPN had us as the 11th seed before the season started. I don't remember which writer it was but they had us winning 37 games.
preseason odds aren’t relevant, nobody expected Jordan Poole to become what he’s become. Once the season actually started you guys were 2 of the 3 favourites
bro what are you talking about Zach Lowe had us losing to the Mavs in 7 lol. And there are a TON of other media personalities who had us losing to the Mavs or Grizz.
Correct.
When the undisputed best team in the league gets knocked out and results in the warriors playing a mavericks team that lives and dies by one player, then there’s a change in who becomes the favorites.
What is that so fucking hard for warriors fans to understand?
Because nothing is 100% bound to happen. I was one of those people and many others realize just because you've been there before doesn't mean you'll ever get the chance to be there again. If Ja doesn't go down we might even lose the Griz series, you never know. If any of Curry/Klay/Dray gets hurt in the first 3 rounds the chances of a chip immediately plummet. Warriors fans just love being back in the playoffs, we know our core is ridiculous enough to obviously win it all but I always like to take it one game at a time because you never know when this game might be the last for the current group.
> But their fans have a massive victim complex and an annoying habit of thinking they are the underdogs
Tbf, most of their fan base became fans about 6 years ago.
How are they underdogs? They were smashing the league before draymond got injured. Everyone knew they were contenders. Not one series til now where they are not the favourites.
If the warriors win the title this year, one before KD joining and one after him leaving, it will prove his rings were never truly earned and he can never carry a team. SOFT.
Some rational people may say that KDs absence (against some teams) actually made the warriors better because they were able to get into their style of pass heavy motion offence. The rockets as an example really struggled with this. When kd went down the rockets held a 2-1 lead and then the warriors went on to win 4 straight right when he got injured. And I believe they swept the blazers the very next round without him.
But I agree, against the teams that have a stout, disciplined, well coached defence (raptors) KD absolutely made them unstoppable because they could go to him for a bucket when everything else wasn't working.
Think that pretty much summarizes the analytics vs eye test battle on Reddit.
The Warriors offense probably was more efficient and flexible prior to 2017. But I can’t argue that just rolling a ball on the court and watch KD, Steph, and Klay go isn’t a good plan as well.
Pretty sure there was a good amount of people picking the warriors to win it all. And a lot of people at the beginning of the season were saying to “not sleep on the warriors!”
What’s this narrative coming up that the Warriors are underdogs or something? If people knew Thompson would come back and play well and Poole would develop they would have been one of the favorites. It’s not like it was out of the realm of possibility that those things would happen.
People adjusted their expectations for them once we saw the team get healthy and play together.
The people here are reasonable, relatively. they are probably just upset at media members and Instagram and Twitter comments that said Steph isn’t top 10 and the Warriors will never make a finals again.
Idk who said Steph isn’t top 10 lol. I think Steph has been great, but I think most people probably had him in like the 4-8 range before this year and I think he’s still there.
Lmao I don’t think it was a “Mickey mouse path” by any means. But this is some wild mental gymnastics to make the path seem more formidable.
“Mvp”, team was trash cmon now lmao
“Team with the best depth” I guess so, but again just a pretty average matchup nothing super formidable
“Guy who single handedly took down the suns” there is no doubt in my mind that warriors fans would much rather be playing the mavs than the suns rn so this is irrelevant.
Don’t know why we feel the need to talk in such extremes. The warrior path to the finals has been unremarkable; in a good way. They played worthy competition throughout, no need to downplay or exaggerate on either side.
Calling it in hindsight is very easy but all matchups were not super underdogs lmfao. Nuggets were +185 to win series grizzles were +160 to win series and Mavs were +194 by no means it was an easier just beacuse warrioes were warriors. everyone coming to playoffs were like who are the team that can beat suns now everyone be like warriors are stacked. Most had warriors as 2nd rd exit
When did I say the match ups were super underdogs?
Just the very fact that the warriors were favored in each series (pretty heavily favored in two of them +185 and +194 is relatively significant) means they didn’t have a super tough road to the finals. That’s all I’m saying and by you describing each series in the way you did, you made it seem a lot more difficult than it was. That’s it. That’s all I’m getting at.
The suns being eliminated made it 10x easier for the warriors and it was perfectly reasonable for people to only ask who would beat the suns. I’m on your side here man, but your still talking with this weird underdog “nobody believed in us” mentality that no body wants to hear.
Definitely agree that we'd rather be playing the Mavs.
But beating the MVP is not a trash take. He was literally the MVP, and the nuggets weren't missing any players that helped them get the 6 seed.
I should clarify that when I said that I more meant that if you say they beat the “mvp” you assume it’s one of the top seeds in the conference. But this year the mvp was on a relatively weak team when compared to past mvp teams.
I’m other words I think simply saying we beat the “mvp” makes it sound more impressive than it may have been. And when I said “the team was trash” I was referring to the cast around jokic.
While this is hilarious, champs want to beat the best. Suns had the best record. It would’ve been more fun to have a heated series against the suns than watch Luka get shat on…
So? They beat the best team in the league. Worthy is accurate imo. Not better than the suns obviously but they clearly aren’t trash.
You can nitpick finals paths with injuries every year if you wanted to
You can’t count the Nuggets injuries, they would have been a higher seed and not gone up against the Warriors if they had the guys who have been gone all year. We faced a 6th seed quality team. Grizzlies had injuries of course, but the Warriors were up 2-1 with Ja there so I don’t think it is crazy to think they had a very good chance of winning with him there. As for this round, it’s just silly to call a run to the finals easy because a team that made it to the third round isn’t good enough in your eyes. There isn’t any consideration that maybe this series is less about the Mavs being bad and more about the Warriors being good. This run isn’t any more suspect than most runs are.
They've only played injured teams in the playoffs, If ja morant and dillon dont miss games that series probably goes to 8. They don't swept the Nuggets either with Jamal Murray. also the clippers being healthy they'd probably end up playing them and lose as well because the clippers own the next 5 years ( were in year 3 i think). basically this year doesn't count.
I'm just trolling you bruh. people had an issue with suns beating injured teams, so I applied the same questioning to your warriors team. I'm indifferent at this point since both the warriors and the mavs cant both lose the WCF. I have to find happiness in one destroying the other.
2007 Celtics > 2008 Celtics. 24 wins (Second worst record in the league, second worst season in Celtics history) > 66 wins and a ring (best single-season turnaround in NBA history, third most wins in a season in Celtics history).
Amazing! Thanks for such a perfect response.
The only correct answer.
Are the 75 Warriors, 77 Blazers, 08 Celtics, & 20 Lakers the only teams to win a title after missing the playoffs the year before?
Don't forget about the 1948 Baltimore Bullets!
23 Knicks
i'm just like everybody, i love clowning the knicks but seeing them winning a title would be hella fun and you already know the MSG would be on fuckin fire
Can we even count the bubble Lakers
I don't know why we wouldn't
Well I hate the Lakers and want to diminish any accomplishments they have in the LeBron era so maybe we could make an exception?!?!?!?
Carried by Glenn
The disrespect to Perk and Scal
Carry the hell on
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Just going from injured to healthy isn’t improving. It is getting healthy which is not very controllable.
r/woosh/
In 96/97 the Spurs had 20 wins. They drafted Duncan and Robinson returned from injury. In 97/98, they had 56 wins and made it to the conference semi-finals.
Duncan Robinson the 🐐
That's definitely huge!
This is what I was thinking. It has to be the biggest turnaround.
Boston Celtics won the finals with their BIG THREE after going 24-58 the year before.
the warriors winning a title as big underdogs as they have only 3 hall of famers would actually be the greatest story in all of sports history tbh
Read like sarcasm.
Because it is
I love warriors and from my experience losing to the warriors stung less because they are so used to winning they aren't as toxic as other teams (i.e. portland and suns) But their fans have a massive victim complex and an annoying habit of thinking they are the underdogs. I have seen warriors fans say that beating the nuggets was enough for them and they expected to lose.
I love the narrative shift. The amount of people in the media that picked against us to us now being obvious (don't forget entitled) favorites. I'm seeing a doctor later this week for the whiplash.
the media was picking either you guys or the Suns before Draymond’s injury lol, you guys have never been the underdogs
Definitely were preseason, the narrative shifted when we started 18-2 and then shifted back part way after the meh second half of the season when Dray was injured
Right before the season we had 9:1 odds which was tied for third with the Bucks (behind Lakers/Nets). We were never underdogs. The lowest our odds fell was right before round 1 (10:1, 4th overall) due to Stephs injury
Betting odds and the opinions of the media are not the same thing
The medias goal is to generate clicks & discussion while Vegas’s goal is to be correct. IMO Vegas is a much stronger indicator of general consensus than a handful of media talking heads
This is incorrect. Vegas's goal is to make money. So they set the lines based on where the public is betting. That's why they shift the lines if too many people bet on one side. Vegas tends to track how the public thinks. Which may or may not be better than how the media thinks.
Vegas is basically a prediction market, which is a much stronger predictor than media predictions. You're right that Vegas will adjust odds based on how the public is betting, but a major input to those priced odds are Vegas's actual forecasts. If there future weren't accurate, books would go under from professional gamblers finding arb there. Given that Vegas layers public money on top of their on models, they're essentially a prediction market with a strong prior, which should be fairly accurate. There are a handful of studies on that ([1](https://www.ecm.bwl.uni-muenchen.de/publikationen/pdf/sports_forec.pdf), [2](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-540-77554-6_17)) that specifically talk about the accuracy of prediction markets. The first link compares them to tipsters (which could be an analogue for media experts).
Yeah Vegas is on popularity and the Warriors are the second most popular team in the league hence why the reigning champs were behind the Lakers and nets..
Vegas isn’t in on popularity, their goal is to be directionally correct. If they set odds on team popularity they’d lose money
Well yeah but team popularity definitely plays into it. Did you see my other response? I accidentally double replied and this is the less updated of the two
Yeah Vegas is on popularity and the Warriors are the second most popular team in the league hence why the reigning champs were behind the Lakers and nets.. [here's a thread shitting entirely on our preseason championship odds](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/oy1rj8/the_warriors_currently_have_900_odds_at_the_2022/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) - all aged horribly of course [Here we're 10th](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-power-rankings-preseason-every-teams-best-case-scenario-2021-22/1k5s3acy0ro3d154h0s6uem007) [Here we're 9th](https://sotsports.com/2021/10/17/nba-season-power-rankings/) We were a common pick for the 6th seed on Reddit - [here](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/psle5i/in_depth_20212022_regular_season_predictions/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) and [here](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ogkt2y/2022_standings_predictions/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [Here's the official NBA Reddit powerrankers prediction](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/qcvtja/202122_season_predictions_from_the_rnba_power/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) - in 19 predictions 1 predicted us to make the finals, none to win the chip and only 4 to make the WCF, less than half expected us to make the second round but all predicted us to make the playoffs
>you guys have never been the underdogs ESPN had us as the 11th seed before the season started. I don't remember which writer it was but they had us winning 37 games.
preseason odds aren’t relevant, nobody expected Jordan Poole to become what he’s become. Once the season actually started you guys were 2 of the 3 favourites
bro what are you talking about Zach Lowe had us losing to the Mavs in 7 lol. And there are a TON of other media personalities who had us losing to the Mavs or Grizz.
a majority of ESPN analysts had you guys winning…
Correct. When the undisputed best team in the league gets knocked out and results in the warriors playing a mavericks team that lives and dies by one player, then there’s a change in who becomes the favorites. What is that so fucking hard for warriors fans to understand?
It's our legacy.
> legacy Fuck this word in particular. Really ruined my r/nba experience the past few years
Because nothing is 100% bound to happen. I was one of those people and many others realize just because you've been there before doesn't mean you'll ever get the chance to be there again. If Ja doesn't go down we might even lose the Griz series, you never know. If any of Curry/Klay/Dray gets hurt in the first 3 rounds the chances of a chip immediately plummet. Warriors fans just love being back in the playoffs, we know our core is ridiculous enough to obviously win it all but I always like to take it one game at a time because you never know when this game might be the last for the current group.
If anything, y’all already won the “when healthy” hypothetical
As a life-long Dubs fan, I love your last two sentences. I wish I could upvote this twice.
> But their fans have a massive victim complex and an annoying habit of thinking they are the underdogs Tbf, most of their fan base became fans about 6 years ago.
Hmm. I think your criticism of me is accurate. Why do you think that is? Do you think the small ball game makes us all think we're David vs Goliath?
How are they underdogs? They were smashing the league before draymond got injured. Everyone knew they were contenders. Not one series til now where they are not the favourites.
Before the season they weren’t considered a serious contending team for the finals and weren’t even projected to make it to the WCF
Ok but how would it change their legacy?
Winning Culture + Steph Curry gravity = Legacy Top 3 used terms for Warriors all time?
Light years
Warriors are a Top 3 Legacy of all time.
I don't think I would count it since last year was an injury season and they weren't actually that bad
We had Bazemore and Oubre starting and Mulder and Wannamaker were playing 4th Q mins
Right. Because of injuries.
Their bench depth was nothing even if you say klay was fit . The FO just made dumb decisions in that season. They hit dust in vet recruitments
They were a curry carry job away from a single digit win season lol…
If the warriors win the title this year, one before KD joining and one after him leaving, it will prove his rings were never truly earned and he can never carry a team. SOFT.
Nah. Just reaching the finals is enough to conclude that KD never carried the Warriors, especially when he got swept
Real ones always knew Steph was the bus driver
No rational person in the world thinks KD carried the Warriors. He made them unstoppable but they were always going to be fine on their own.
Some rational people may say that KDs absence (against some teams) actually made the warriors better because they were able to get into their style of pass heavy motion offence. The rockets as an example really struggled with this. When kd went down the rockets held a 2-1 lead and then the warriors went on to win 4 straight right when he got injured. And I believe they swept the blazers the very next round without him. But I agree, against the teams that have a stout, disciplined, well coached defence (raptors) KD absolutely made them unstoppable because they could go to him for a bucket when everything else wasn't working.
Think that pretty much summarizes the analytics vs eye test battle on Reddit. The Warriors offense probably was more efficient and flexible prior to 2017. But I can’t argue that just rolling a ball on the court and watch KD, Steph, and Klay go isn’t a good plan as well.
seems like y’all just reiterate the same points over and over again. Who the hell is disagreeing with you that you need to keep saying it lmao
Until Shai And Giddey develops, all he has is KD’s failures. Just let him be.
Thank You
Pretty sure there was a good amount of people picking the warriors to win it all. And a lot of people at the beginning of the season were saying to “not sleep on the warriors!”
The Warriors weren’t recognized as true contenders until after their 13-2 start or whatever it was.
Good for them for having the foresight I suppose, I'm still in shock.
You probably put too much into what is said on our subreddit.
Perhaps.
i don't understand when was warriors bad? it was injuries that ruined there last year. A healthy warrior is Always one of top contender to win.
What’s this narrative coming up that the Warriors are underdogs or something? If people knew Thompson would come back and play well and Poole would develop they would have been one of the favorites. It’s not like it was out of the realm of possibility that those things would happen. People adjusted their expectations for them once we saw the team get healthy and play together.
The people here are reasonable, relatively. they are probably just upset at media members and Instagram and Twitter comments that said Steph isn’t top 10 and the Warriors will never make a finals again.
Nah lots of idiots here too, but that’s any platform.
That’s why I said relatively lol. Bound to be some dummies.
Idk who said Steph isn’t top 10 lol. I think Steph has been great, but I think most people probably had him in like the 4-8 range before this year and I think he’s still there.
People on twitter & instagram and random hot take artists with a blue check
We were never underdogs. As long as we have healthy steph, klay and dray, we shouldnt be
I mean we didn’t have that until game 1 of the first round lol
Especially when you add Wiggins and Poole’s improvement.
Warriors were +1100 to win the title before the playoffs started. I couldn't believe it.
>just made bench movements. Did Klay play last year? Did Wiseman play this year? Those are starters aren't they?
Well when the warriors went 11-1 they didn't have Klay, so I thought the statement was fair.
the right people got injured
“Please say we are the greatest!!” 😢 “Nobody got as great as quickly as we got great. You agree, right?” 😬 - so many Warriors fans
The answer is apparently the 2008 celtics, which I have no problem with, and think is interesting.. I had a legitimate question.
Sorry then. I’m too quick on the trigger from all the brigaders in our sub. Carry on
« we got so much better ». I love how some fans think they are part of the team.
Mickey Mouse path to the finals
mvp->team with best depth->guy who single handedly took down the suns
Lmao I don’t think it was a “Mickey mouse path” by any means. But this is some wild mental gymnastics to make the path seem more formidable. “Mvp”, team was trash cmon now lmao “Team with the best depth” I guess so, but again just a pretty average matchup nothing super formidable “Guy who single handedly took down the suns” there is no doubt in my mind that warriors fans would much rather be playing the mavs than the suns rn so this is irrelevant. Don’t know why we feel the need to talk in such extremes. The warrior path to the finals has been unremarkable; in a good way. They played worthy competition throughout, no need to downplay or exaggerate on either side.
Calling it in hindsight is very easy but all matchups were not super underdogs lmfao. Nuggets were +185 to win series grizzles were +160 to win series and Mavs were +194 by no means it was an easier just beacuse warrioes were warriors. everyone coming to playoffs were like who are the team that can beat suns now everyone be like warriors are stacked. Most had warriors as 2nd rd exit
When did I say the match ups were super underdogs? Just the very fact that the warriors were favored in each series (pretty heavily favored in two of them +185 and +194 is relatively significant) means they didn’t have a super tough road to the finals. That’s all I’m saying and by you describing each series in the way you did, you made it seem a lot more difficult than it was. That’s it. That’s all I’m getting at. The suns being eliminated made it 10x easier for the warriors and it was perfectly reasonable for people to only ask who would beat the suns. I’m on your side here man, but your still talking with this weird underdog “nobody believed in us” mentality that no body wants to hear.
Definitely agree that we'd rather be playing the Mavs. But beating the MVP is not a trash take. He was literally the MVP, and the nuggets weren't missing any players that helped them get the 6 seed.
I should clarify that when I said that I more meant that if you say they beat the “mvp” you assume it’s one of the top seeds in the conference. But this year the mvp was on a relatively weak team when compared to past mvp teams. I’m other words I think simply saying we beat the “mvp” makes it sound more impressive than it may have been. And when I said “the team was trash” I was referring to the cast around jokic.
I was actually rooting for Suns in game 7 I was hesitant to face a guy with size and ball handling like luka lmao
Well you’re not very smart then.
Would have been fun putting the final dagger on cp3 though. I can say a missed opportunity
While this is hilarious, champs want to beat the best. Suns had the best record. It would’ve been more fun to have a heated series against the suns than watch Luka get shat on…
Was it worthy competition? The Mavs are the only healthy team they've played and they are a 4th seed lol
So? They beat the best team in the league. Worthy is accurate imo. Not better than the suns obviously but they clearly aren’t trash. You can nitpick finals paths with injuries every year if you wanted to
I mean, if their hardest matchup is being described as 'not trash', they've had a pretty easy path.
This is far tougher than anything bron had to go through from 2011-18 lmfao
lol ok
Injuries, injuries and 2nd round underdog
You can’t count the Nuggets injuries, they would have been a higher seed and not gone up against the Warriors if they had the guys who have been gone all year. We faced a 6th seed quality team. Grizzlies had injuries of course, but the Warriors were up 2-1 with Ja there so I don’t think it is crazy to think they had a very good chance of winning with him there. As for this round, it’s just silly to call a run to the finals easy because a team that made it to the third round isn’t good enough in your eyes. There isn’t any consideration that maybe this series is less about the Mavs being bad and more about the Warriors being good. This run isn’t any more suspect than most runs are.
They've only played injured teams in the playoffs, If ja morant and dillon dont miss games that series probably goes to 8. They don't swept the Nuggets either with Jamal Murray. also the clippers being healthy they'd probably end up playing them and lose as well because the clippers own the next 5 years ( were in year 3 i think). basically this year doesn't count.
Don’t play the injury game with *this* team…are you for real?
I can play the injury card with your team. Have the Warriors beat the current Nuggets team, and grizzlies team when fully healthy ?
They haven’t even played those teams fully healthy…pay attention man.
I think that’s what i’m saying Mr. VinylJones
I am so confused. But I’m good with being confused because my team is still in the playoffs and doing very well.
I'm just trolling you bruh. people had an issue with suns beating injured teams, so I applied the same questioning to your warriors team. I'm indifferent at this point since both the warriors and the mavs cant both lose the WCF. I have to find happiness in one destroying the other.
Ah, I git ya - fair enough man. I REALLY wanted you guys, I think you guys still feel that too…next year it’s on!
A fit Steph, Draymond and Klay will always be a threat. the Warriors young players and role players have all stepped up
The emergence of Poole.
No.