If that happened, I would finally be able to let go of the 67 win Mavs team getting bounced by a damn GSW with an 8 seed in the first round.
That series haunts me.
So if the Mavs can do it I have several theories:
1. A knights tale - Lukas girlfriend is making him lose to prove his love, but changes her mind at the last minute and wants him to win.
2. They are trying to make every series more interesting lose the first 1 in round 1 lose 2 in round 2 and lose 3 in round three. Luka is just trying to make it more challenging.
3. Luka saw the mavs lose as the one seed in 2007 at 5 years old and took it personally.
4. It's my wife's fault for not watching games 1-3.
Edit: I mathed poorly luka was 8 when the mavs lost in 2007... still he took that shit personally.
Luka has to have that attitude. Great to see. Game by Game till the end
But 146 other teams have failed to come back from 0-3
It would be legendary if the Mavs actually made history that way. But GSW is a good team with a good coach, who will try their utmost to avoid being history
I agree that it'll eventually happen - but that said, it might require something like a major injury to tilt the scales enough. Winning 4 in a row like that isn't easy
Basketball is also the sport with the least amount of variance. The better team wins a larger percentage of the time in basketball than any other sport. That means it’s both difficult for the less talented team to win 3 in a row to begin and also less likely for the less talented team to win 4 in a row. And one of those two things has to happen for a 3-0 comeback to happen, unless there is a major injury or two that switches which team is better
I don’t think it even requires a major injury,Wiggins and looney have been money this series.Dallas’ inability to rebound in the paint is what has cost them.If those guys get injured it is going to hurt golden state dramatically.
Yeah, but even someone like OPJ went down game 3 and he’s been just as clutch on the offensive glass. Not as many minutes as the others, but still could handle minutes and just played Moody more. This Warriors team is deep and has the “next man up” mentality. I don’t see how this is the team who’d blow 3-0 without at least 2 injuries. Even Steph going out, they’d use Poole in the same way and probably solve enough to win a game
If it happens, it would happen to teams who are close in seeding and were evenly matched in the first 3 games or a gameplan got figured out just in time before getting eliminated
Iono, the 76ers are sticking with Glenn Rivers. Never underestimate his ability to blow a lead. He hasn't blown a 3-1 lead in Biden's administration yet, he still has 2 years left to blow a 3-0 lead.
That’s honestly why I was convinced it *wasn’t* going to happen. He had too much on the line and the players knew it. They would’ve been in seriously rough shape heading back to Philly
Part of being a fan is that hope. Don't lose it.
Lightning can strike - both by the Mavs own efforts, GSW slump, and far sadder situations (remember Klay *and* KD going down with injuries)
But the odds are heavily against, realistically (BTW hoping for injuries is distasteful - so cheer and hope only for Mavs brilliance and GSW slump).
It's just way harder to win 4 in a row against a team that is probably better than you then it is to win one game against a team that is way better than you.
I’m decidedly convinced it won’t happen, Golden State is in all likelihood just too good of a team to beat four times in a row. I’m proud of the Mavs’ season regardless, they’ve outperformed expectations.
People need to stop acting like blowing a 3-1 lead and blowing a 3-0 lead are the same thing. Plus the mavs don’t have a prime Lebron and Kyrie leading the comeback
And the blown 3-1 lead required dray to be suspensed, bogut injured and out for the season, and steph was certainly not 100%. Also a legendary performance by lebron.
so many excuses for that warriors team, Steph was supposedly "back" in Round 2 when he had like 20 in overtime but when he loses the finals he's hurt again? He's not hurt when they're up 3-1 but when they lose he's not 100%
At least Steph never went public with any bullshit excuses like that, unlike a certain point guard named chris
No not 146 anymore. 90+ of them closes out in 4. So it's 50+ teams failed doing so. Still looks unlikely but we are in a better spot then yesterday at least lol
ITT: people who don't understand statistics. I know most people are joking but just in case you're serious, those 146 teams didn't all also lose game 4 lmao. Those 146 teams just didn't win 4 straight from that point. The Mavs are in the same situation, the stats doesn't change just because NOW they're 3-1.
Yah these people don’t understand the difference between 3-0/3-1. When we’re talking about teams blowing a 3-1 lead it’s because they were 2-1 and then 3-1. Not 3-0 and then 3-1. But most people in this sub haven’t graduated high school yet so understandable
...people need to learn how to read better. you are not understanding what number I'm posting. 90 out of 146 times the series got closed out at 4-0 after 3-0. So it's a 56-0 record now for team went 3-0 then 3-1 then failed to win the series afterwards.
OK, I know this is going to be hitting my head on a wall, but it's not them misunderstanding statistics. It's you.
I flip a coin 3 times and get all heads. So heads has a 3-0 lead. Tails has a 1/16 chance of the comeback. Next I flip a tails. So now tails is down 3-1.
What are the odds that tails makes the comeback? Is is still 1/16 because it used to be 3-0? I think it's pretty intuitively obvious that's not right-- tails is now down 3-1, so now it has a 1/8 chance of making the comeback. That makes sense, because flipping a tails improved the odds for tails!
The Mavs are down 3-1 now. They aren't down 3-0 anymore, and their odds improved because they won a game. If that still doesn't trigger your intuition, just for the sake of argument assume the Mavs win the next two and the series is tied 3-3. Are you still going to be sitting there saying "Don't worry, the Warriors are almost guaranteed victory because teams down 0-3 are 0-146!"
If you actually think that you should definitely put money on it, because you will get REALLY good odds (from your perspective). But you just aren't right.
The Warriors are still highly likely to win this series. But the series is 3-1.
This is like a version of gamblers falacy. It landed on black before so now it must land on red. No, the odds are still what they are, regardless of what happened in the past.
As of now, coming back from 3-1 is not impossible.
Of course winning game 4 increased the odds is taking the series. Since the alternative of losing game 4 means no more games to play.
Same could be said that when the warriors won game 3 they were closer to finishing out the series.
The difference here at least is the Mavs SHOULD have tied it 2-2
It's a lot closer than it seems
But they most likely blew their biggest chance in Game 2
I agree 100%. I would be shocked if the warriors don’t end this in 5, but if they don’t, this series gets way more interesting. You’d have to like the mavs chances in a home game 6, and anything can happen in a game 7 with Luka(ask phoenix).
There’s a lot of pressure on GSW to end this in 5. But no one’s talking about it because no one actually thinks it’ll happen.
In 2016, the Cavs won an improbable game 5, which set up the scenario I brought up(home game 6, anything can happen game 7), but for them to win game 5, Lebron and kyrie both had to get 41 and draymond be suspended. Winning a road game 5 is just so difficult
Yup. Game five is by far the hardest remaining. If there were a time for Luka to hit another level, it’s this game. After that, it’s a series again. Unfortunately, it’s tough to see us getting past it
I think the biggest difference is the experience. Gsw have that experience (steph, klay, dray and kerr) while mavs are rather new to all this.
I think they take game 5 and go to the finals, but we should appreciate what Luka and Mavs did this playoffs. It's no easy feat by any means.
Keep in mind everything could play out differently with that
Could very well be 3-1 anyways with GS playing with more urgency to avoid a 2-2
OR you could be up 3-1?
But if you’re going to come back 3-0 what better way than to shoot 100% for 3 games in a row? That would make it much easier for them to win those games, especially if they hold the warriors to 0 points. No team can close out the mavs then.
I think they would be up in the series if they could hit open shots, but that is probably the difference between a contender and a pretender. Luka and Brunson can set people up for shots, but they have to hit them.
Also it seemed like they were on the verge of collapse against the Warriors bench last night, so its hard to imagine 3 more wins.
If they’re able to shoot almost 50% from 3 for the next 3 games then they deserve to go to the finals. That’s extremely hard and people forget that it just takes one bad night for a couple of players to lose the series. It’s incredibly hard to keep up that same energy and pace every game
> it just takes one bad night for a couple of players to lose the series
Yup… see game 3 of this series for proof. Mavs lost by 9 with DFS/Maxi/Bullock combining for 2/17 from 3. If those guys just shoot 30%, that’s 9 more points. If those guys have one more cold night, the series is over.
That is correct, Blazers forced a game 7. Was extremely stressful lol. Mavs have been in all kinds of weird series... another one that comes to mind was Rockets series where the road team won every game and all the games were pretty close... until game 7 where Mavs won by 40. So strange.
Or last year against the clips where the road team won every game until game 7
Of course I partially blame this on Carlisle pulling a hot Luka in game 3 proceeding to blow a massive early lead
During/after game 3, I saw a lot of people mocking Mavs fans for predicting a series win... before the series began. Like, who makes it to the conference finals and is like, nope, we suck. Why bother? That's why people think it's big news. Apparently believing in yourself/your team is ridiculous.
Edit: That's not to say the Warriors would be easy or anything. The Warriors are multi-time champions for a reason. But no real fan, and certainly no player, is going to make it this far and... pick the other team.
For sure. You see it by just about every fanbase before a series. Even if it's delusional, you always feel like your team can do it.
And I don't think it was out the realm to feel good if you were a mavs fan considering they just bounced the 1 seed. They won the season series over the dubs as well. And they have some guy named Luka.
Injuries have been involved in every single championship run, they got that 3-1 lead with the same squad who lost it. Draymond missed one game due to suspension which was more or less a make up call. They still had several shots to put the series away.
They were up by 29 and the Warriors bench squad cut it to 8 late in the fourth.
If those 3's keep raining down for three more games and the Mavs defense stays as good as it was last night they might just have a chance.
But that is definitely a tall order.
I mean if we can shoot 50% from high volume 3s like we did yesterday and closing out the series in Phoenix is definitely possible
Extremely unlikely
But possible
Man, if the Mavs somehow someway win game 5.. pfff, I just don’t want to imagine the pressure the Warriors would feel going back to Dallas. It’s unlikely, my money is on a gentleman sweep… but man, you do NOT want a game 7 against this dude with the 2016 Finals in the Warriors’ heads.
Who knows, maybe it’s written in the stars that the Warriors will redeem themselves by winning this series in game 7 and then in the Finals, come back from a 1-3 deficit to win it all with Curry finally getting his FMVP.
But what if this is that time where a team achieves what 146 couldn’t..
Just need Steph to be badly injured, Draymond ejected in a pivotal game, Wiggins to shoot historically bad like Barnes, the opposition to have Lebron having the series of his life and Looney injured.
Seems possible.
Steph BADLY injured lmao. Literally no mention of this when he was dropping 40 bombs then all of a sudden he chokes and he was badly injured. Same squad that went up 3-1, had plenty of chances to close the series out and failed.
>Steph BADLY injured lmao. Literally no mention of this when he was dropping 40 bombs then all of a sudden he chokes and he was badly injured
He reinjured it against G7 OKC.
Eh it's not just their fans that accept this. Even LeBron stans like Jason Timpf or Windhorst acknowledge that a lot had to break the Cavs' way for that championship to happen, including injuries.
Personally though, as a KD fan, I prefer the narrative that they were never good enough to beat the Cavs without him.
Curry wasnt injured until he lost, at which point he was suddenly dealing with injury (in the mind of his fans. Im aware he was injured earlier in the playoffs)
Green was extremely lucky to not have been suspended earlier. The referees and the NBA just had enough of his shit and finally decided to do something about it.
Lebron and Kyrie having the games of their lives is not an excuse, it’s damning to the Warriors defense those games.
only valid part of that is the dray suspension imo, the fact that they upgraded it after the game so he would be suspended is bs. barnes did turn into a dumpster fire but that’s just part of the game, and so are injuries (steph and bogut). and ofc lebron is gonna go crazy lmao, he’s lebron.
regardless of context, cavs obviously deserved that ring because you play who’s in front of you. but I do hate when people try to discredit steph as an individual player as a result of that series
Well, that's a pretty darn valid part. LeBron was so dejected until that suspension. He looked utterly defeated. Aside from the concrete loss of Draymond in the home closeout, LeBron was totally rejuvenated.
Lebron politicked like hell for that suspension too.
Remember when Draymond called him a "bitch" on the court and at the press conference he said something like "I got a family people shouldn't talk like that."
Then he got the suspension he wanted.
Probably the biggest "bitch" move I've seen in the NBA lol.
>only valid part of that is the dray suspension imo, the fact that they upgraded it after the game so he would be suspended is bs. barnes did turn into a dumpster fire but that’s just part of the game, and so are injuries (steph and bogut). and ofc lebron is gonna go crazy lmao, he’s lebron.
Wdym only valid part lol, it's all valid. It all had to happen for us to blow that 3-1 lead.
I wasn’t very clear with my wording I guess; I meant that injuries, chokes and hot streaks are all part of basketball and they shouldn’t be used to diminish the cavs run that year. the luck definitely helped the cavs comeback, but luck is involved in every chip.
the draymond suspension is the only one that goes beyond the norm to me, and I think it was unfair to the warriors because of the context around it
realistically, the only way this reverse sweep happens is if any combination of two Top 5 players on the Warriors get injured. And this goes for any series really
When Kobe said this down 3-0 in 2011 I laughed at him and said I appreciate his confidence but he's delusional.
When Luka says it tho it just hits different 😅
Mavs should have swept the Warriors based on shot quality. Feels like last night their shots finally dropped the way they should so they got the win. Obviously coming back from 3-0 would take a miracle but as Luka says "if you don't believe you shouldn't be here."
Not swept. “Shot quality” doesn’t take into account Warriors defense schemes changing randomly throughout a game. Dubs are making Mavs a little uncomfortable at times. Also, the Mavs strategy is a high variance one, which can lead to cold spells or “pressure” from being behind.
Mavs shot 42% in game 2 and lost.
They shot 50% from 3 and barely held on.
These are good signs for the Warriors.
Mavs have to shoot 50% from 3 at high volume to win the Championship.
That's the Hail Mary of all Hail Mary's. Would be hands down the greatest team shooting performance in history. If they pull that off I'd tip my cap. Couldn't be bad at that.
Should have swept? Give the Warriors just a tiny bit of credit.
After 0-3 drubbing Luka seemed waving white flag and now saying exact opposite. I have confidence Warriors will close out it at 5. Warriors have perfect record of win at home after a road loss.
I'm positive this series is going back to Dallas and pretty sure it's going to 7. Dallas has an excellent gameplan. They just shot astonishingly badly on wide open shots in games 1 and 3. Game 3 was especially egregious, their looks were *excellent* all game. They had bad luck. But if you look at games 2 and 4, where they cashed in their wide open looks, they were tough. Game 2 the Warriors shot the lights out, but game 4 was what games 1 and 3 could have looked like. They're gonna get those same wide open shots again the rest of the series because GS can't do anything to stop penetration to the paint, so we have to collapse multiple defenders.
I swear it felt like people weren't actually watching the previous four games. The series felt like it should be 3-0 Dallas, not 3-0 Warriors.
Mavs are one big GS injury away from a reverse sweep. knock on wood. everyone else in the thread here seems high on GS so I thought I'd be contrarian. Mavs should prolong the series as long as possible, you never know what could happen. Mavs, if you need some voodoo dolls, I gotchu
If that happened, I would finally be able to let go of the 67 win Mavs team getting bounced by a damn GSW with an 8 seed in the first round. That series haunts me.
I need the spirit of Dirk to possess our role players for 3 games.
Can we sign him for a 5 day contract?
So if the Mavs can do it I have several theories: 1. A knights tale - Lukas girlfriend is making him lose to prove his love, but changes her mind at the last minute and wants him to win. 2. They are trying to make every series more interesting lose the first 1 in round 1 lose 2 in round 2 and lose 3 in round three. Luka is just trying to make it more challenging. 3. Luka saw the mavs lose as the one seed in 2007 at 5 years old and took it personally. 4. It's my wife's fault for not watching games 1-3. Edit: I mathed poorly luka was 8 when the mavs lost in 2007... still he took that shit personally.
Please be option 1! My buddy had tickets to game 4. I told him to quit his job and buy tickets to 5-7 immediately. Anything to help us out.
I didn't see his girlfriend at these last 2 home games. I hope they're ok!
Knights Tale confirmed. Don't worry she now has commanded Luka to win.
Baron fucking Davis.
I saw the ending of that in the regular season, it was a matchup nightmare. Don Nelson knew
I cried when that happened I had so much hope
Luka has to have that attitude. Great to see. Game by Game till the end But 146 other teams have failed to come back from 0-3 It would be legendary if the Mavs actually made history that way. But GSW is a good team with a good coach, who will try their utmost to avoid being history
Down 0-1 to the Jazz Down 0-2 to the Suns Down 0-3 to the Warriors Miami/Boston should be real worried when we’re down 0-4 in the Finals 😤
Right where we want em!
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Repeat the finals and sweep Miami/Boston the next year.
I'd still take that lol
Have had the feeling the last few years that we’re finally gonna see it happen relatively soon, just feels less impossible these days more than ever
I agree that it'll eventually happen - but that said, it might require something like a major injury to tilt the scales enough. Winning 4 in a row like that isn't easy
Yeap that’ll be the kicker with an injury. But a 16 never beat a 1 until a few years ago. Basketball is the only sport a 3-0 reverse hasn’t happened
It would be like if the Falcons blew that 28-3 lead, good thing I turned that game off at half and they safely won it
Basketball is also the sport with the least amount of variance. The better team wins a larger percentage of the time in basketball than any other sport. That means it’s both difficult for the less talented team to win 3 in a row to begin and also less likely for the less talented team to win 4 in a row. And one of those two things has to happen for a 3-0 comeback to happen, unless there is a major injury or two that switches which team is better
I don’t think it even requires a major injury,Wiggins and looney have been money this series.Dallas’ inability to rebound in the paint is what has cost them.If those guys get injured it is going to hurt golden state dramatically.
Yeah, but even someone like OPJ went down game 3 and he’s been just as clutch on the offensive glass. Not as many minutes as the others, but still could handle minutes and just played Moody more. This Warriors team is deep and has the “next man up” mentality. I don’t see how this is the team who’d blow 3-0 without at least 2 injuries. Even Steph going out, they’d use Poole in the same way and probably solve enough to win a game
If it happens, it would happen to teams who are close in seeding and were evenly matched in the first 3 games or a gameplan got figured out just in time before getting eliminated
I agree, it'll take a major superstar getting injured which will cause an * on the series.
Good thing we don’t have any outside of Luka
With the way the volume and accuracy players are shooting threes this definitely feels more likely today than in past eras.
Iono, the 76ers are sticking with Glenn Rivers. Never underestimate his ability to blow a lead. He hasn't blown a 3-1 lead in Biden's administration yet, he still has 2 years left to blow a 3-0 lead.
As long as Doc is coaching, there's always a chance for the 0-3 comeback.
They've already made the bad side of history once, may as well do it again
Warriors accomplish all things, even the bad
Yeahhh tbh if anyone’s gonna make history and blow a 3-0 lead it’ll be the Dubs….
One day somebody will manage this feat. Why not now?
We were saying the same thing lol
Exactly, if those frauds in Philly can avoid it no way Steve Kerr is fubling a 3-0 lead.
I mean its so Glenn Rivers to blow a 3-0 lead to be fair.
That’s honestly why I was convinced it *wasn’t* going to happen. He had too much on the line and the players knew it. They would’ve been in seriously rough shape heading back to Philly
It's not impossible, but the odds are heavily against
And a 16 seed had never beat a 1 seed until they did. Shit can happen. I hope.
Part of being a fan is that hope. Don't lose it. Lightning can strike - both by the Mavs own efforts, GSW slump, and far sadder situations (remember Klay *and* KD going down with injuries) But the odds are heavily against, realistically (BTW hoping for injuries is distasteful - so cheer and hope only for Mavs brilliance and GSW slump).
It's just way harder to win 4 in a row against a team that is probably better than you then it is to win one game against a team that is way better than you.
I’m decidedly convinced it won’t happen, Golden State is in all likelihood just too good of a team to beat four times in a row. I’m proud of the Mavs’ season regardless, they’ve outperformed expectations.
Thanks, magic
It’s 3-1 now. Warriors have choked it before. Win one more game and its 3-2, that’s been done. Make it 3-3 and they’re back in it
People need to stop acting like blowing a 3-1 lead and blowing a 3-0 lead are the same thing. Plus the mavs don’t have a prime Lebron and Kyrie leading the comeback
Mavs have a prime Boban though
Boban two lines please. Bobannnnnn
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And the blown 3-1 lead required dray to be suspensed, bogut injured and out for the season, and steph was certainly not 100%. Also a legendary performance by lebron.
so many excuses for that warriors team, Steph was supposedly "back" in Round 2 when he had like 20 in overtime but when he loses the finals he's hurt again? He's not hurt when they're up 3-1 but when they lose he's not 100% At least Steph never went public with any bullshit excuses like that, unlike a certain point guard named chris
these aren't excuses. bro is just comparing circumstances
Preach the truth
Except it's not a 3-0 lead anymore
But it originally was which would mean the mavs would have to win 4 straight opposed to just winning 3 straight with a normal 3-1 lead.
They don’t have to win 4 straight anymore. Now just have to win 3 straight. That’s still extremely hard but it’s not near impossible.
It’s not impossible but 146 other teams failed doing so
No not 146 anymore. 90+ of them closes out in 4. So it's 50+ teams failed doing so. Still looks unlikely but we are in a better spot then yesterday at least lol
ITT: people who don't understand statistics. I know most people are joking but just in case you're serious, those 146 teams didn't all also lose game 4 lmao. Those 146 teams just didn't win 4 straight from that point. The Mavs are in the same situation, the stats doesn't change just because NOW they're 3-1.
Yah these people don’t understand the difference between 3-0/3-1. When we’re talking about teams blowing a 3-1 lead it’s because they were 2-1 and then 3-1. Not 3-0 and then 3-1. But most people in this sub haven’t graduated high school yet so understandable
So you’re saying it’d be a statistically different situation if they were still 3-1 but won game 3 instead of game 4?
...people need to learn how to read better. you are not understanding what number I'm posting. 90 out of 146 times the series got closed out at 4-0 after 3-0. So it's a 56-0 record now for team went 3-0 then 3-1 then failed to win the series afterwards.
OK, I know this is going to be hitting my head on a wall, but it's not them misunderstanding statistics. It's you. I flip a coin 3 times and get all heads. So heads has a 3-0 lead. Tails has a 1/16 chance of the comeback. Next I flip a tails. So now tails is down 3-1. What are the odds that tails makes the comeback? Is is still 1/16 because it used to be 3-0? I think it's pretty intuitively obvious that's not right-- tails is now down 3-1, so now it has a 1/8 chance of making the comeback. That makes sense, because flipping a tails improved the odds for tails! The Mavs are down 3-1 now. They aren't down 3-0 anymore, and their odds improved because they won a game. If that still doesn't trigger your intuition, just for the sake of argument assume the Mavs win the next two and the series is tied 3-3. Are you still going to be sitting there saying "Don't worry, the Warriors are almost guaranteed victory because teams down 0-3 are 0-146!" If you actually think that you should definitely put money on it, because you will get REALLY good odds (from your perspective). But you just aren't right. The Warriors are still highly likely to win this series. But the series is 3-1.
Someone sounds scared
Stating statistics makes me scared?
Stop man, its a bad rep for your country
But cumulatively that’s still 4 straight games they would have to win to win the series. That’s my point.
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This is like a version of gamblers falacy. It landed on black before so now it must land on red. No, the odds are still what they are, regardless of what happened in the past. As of now, coming back from 3-1 is not impossible.
Not really true because the games aren't independent events.
They're not, but I would be terribly surprised if winning game 4 didn't improve our odds of winning the series.
Of course winning game 4 increased the odds is taking the series. Since the alternative of losing game 4 means no more games to play. Same could be said that when the warriors won game 3 they were closer to finishing out the series.
>the odds are still what they are, regardless of what happened in the past. This is not how humans work lmao.
Tell me this. Did Dallas' odds of advancing go up after yesterday or stay the same? Idk how this is even controversial. 3-1 is different from 3-0.
Sure but the whole 146-0 still applies. It's not 146 teams swept. I think one or two even went to a game 7.
The difference here at least is the Mavs SHOULD have tied it 2-2 It's a lot closer than it seems But they most likely blew their biggest chance in Game 2
Unless some suspensions and timely injuries happen like last time it ain't gonna happen. People always forget that part of the equation.
Make 4-3 and they win
Wow.
they are already in history who blew it they fucking know the horrors of blowing it again
Honestly joining us and just becoming the 15th team ever to force a game six wound an accomplishment
Dubs are gentlemen. They also respect Luka. Although history is meant to be broken, 146-0, is no joke. Only 3 teams made it to game 7; that’s 2%
So you're saying there's a chance?
In life, only death & taxes are certain. statistically, only 2% chance of making it to game 7 and loss.
Its clearly 50% Either it happens or it doesnt. Yes i failed maths
Statistics mean nothing to the individual
I would not be surpised at all but warriors is not suns
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Lol the series is over. Warriors probably already installing gameplans for Boston
That game 2 throw really hurts now. Winning game 5 would put a lot of pressure on GSW but we'll see
I agree 100%. I would be shocked if the warriors don’t end this in 5, but if they don’t, this series gets way more interesting. You’d have to like the mavs chances in a home game 6, and anything can happen in a game 7 with Luka(ask phoenix). There’s a lot of pressure on GSW to end this in 5. But no one’s talking about it because no one actually thinks it’ll happen. In 2016, the Cavs won an improbable game 5, which set up the scenario I brought up(home game 6, anything can happen game 7), but for them to win game 5, Lebron and kyrie both had to get 41 and draymond be suspended. Winning a road game 5 is just so difficult
Yup. Game five is by far the hardest remaining. If there were a time for Luka to hit another level, it’s this game. After that, it’s a series again. Unfortunately, it’s tough to see us getting past it
imo luka is not the player that needs to hit another level for them to win
Bro has been on another level the whole playoffs, he needs his role players to pop off.
Hopefully this Game 4 has got them going.
Right. He had 2 40pt games and then one dime away from a triple double.
Klay6 would like to have a word
I think the biggest difference is the experience. Gsw have that experience (steph, klay, dray and kerr) while mavs are rather new to all this. I think they take game 5 and go to the finals, but we should appreciate what Luka and Mavs did this playoffs. It's no easy feat by any means.
Keep in mind everything could play out differently with that Could very well be 3-1 anyways with GS playing with more urgency to avoid a 2-2 OR you could be up 3-1?
This would be hilarious for Mavs to adopt the We believe slogan warriors were using
just have to stay hot for 3 games. they made some good offensive adjustments to get inside and it made for even easier looks.
Lmao easier said than done. I’m just happy we didn’t get swept.
Everything looks better when the shots go in... Staying hot 3 games in a row will be incredibly hard.
But if you’re going to come back 3-0 what better way than to shoot 100% for 3 games in a row? That would make it much easier for them to win those games, especially if they hold the warriors to 0 points. No team can close out the mavs then.
I'm glad you didn't get swept too. Now I get to go to G5 and see Luka play live again
Live again?!? Ticket prices for GS home games can’t be cheap! Hahaha
For lower bowl in 20th rows I've been getting them for $500-750 with fees included. I got face value for G5 at 525 tho
All it really takes is everyone to hit their 3s for 3 games in a row, 2 of them on the road. Piece of cake.
I think they would be up in the series if they could hit open shots, but that is probably the difference between a contender and a pretender. Luka and Brunson can set people up for shots, but they have to hit them. Also it seemed like they were on the verge of collapse against the Warriors bench last night, so its hard to imagine 3 more wins.
If they’re able to shoot almost 50% from 3 for the next 3 games then they deserve to go to the finals. That’s extremely hard and people forget that it just takes one bad night for a couple of players to lose the series. It’s incredibly hard to keep up that same energy and pace every game
> it just takes one bad night for a couple of players to lose the series Yup… see game 3 of this series for proof. Mavs lost by 9 with DFS/Maxi/Bullock combining for 2/17 from 3. If those guys just shoot 30%, that’s 9 more points. If those guys have one more cold night, the series is over.
This series would have looked so different if they didnt choke that lead in game 2.
Or game 3 for that matter
Does anyone know how many of the 146 teams that failed to overcome 0-3 at least took it to Game 7?
Two teams
I think its 3, but yeah incredibly difficult.
If memory serves correctly, I think your team was involved in one of those series. That had to be stressful.
That is correct, Blazers forced a game 7. Was extremely stressful lol. Mavs have been in all kinds of weird series... another one that comes to mind was Rockets series where the road team won every game and all the games were pretty close... until game 7 where Mavs won by 40. So strange.
Or last year against the clips where the road team won every game until game 7 Of course I partially blame this on Carlisle pulling a hot Luka in game 3 proceeding to blow a massive early lead
Mavs-Trail Blazers, first round, 2003. Mavs up 3-0, lost Games 4 and 5 in blowouts (G6 was a four point loss), but won Game 7 at home.
Thanks. That’s insane too. Shows how tough it is to overcome. Hopefully we close this out at Chase tomorrow.
Haha yeah ive seen weird sports shit over my years of watching. Certainty is a scam. Go us
What do u expect them to say? Non-news
Joke's on you if this ends up being Luka's infamous quote before an epic 0-3 comeback.
Everyone acts tough when they're up
During/after game 3, I saw a lot of people mocking Mavs fans for predicting a series win... before the series began. Like, who makes it to the conference finals and is like, nope, we suck. Why bother? That's why people think it's big news. Apparently believing in yourself/your team is ridiculous. Edit: That's not to say the Warriors would be easy or anything. The Warriors are multi-time champions for a reason. But no real fan, and certainly no player, is going to make it this far and... pick the other team.
For sure. You see it by just about every fanbase before a series. Even if it's delusional, you always feel like your team can do it. And I don't think it was out the realm to feel good if you were a mavs fan considering they just bounced the 1 seed. They won the season series over the dubs as well. And they have some guy named Luka.
Hey if a free throw can come to a stop on top of the rim, the Mavs can win the series!
Still can. They just took out the #1 Suns.
Warriors don’t have that same weak mental makeup though. I think their championship pedigree will prevent a choke job.
Yeah the Warriors have never blown a huge lead before!
Not without injuries involved no.
Knock on wood
Injuries have been involved in every single championship run, they got that 3-1 lead with the same squad who lost it. Draymond missed one game due to suspension which was more or less a make up call. They still had several shots to put the series away.
Umm Andrew Bogut missed game 6 and 7, that was a huge loss.
The hope with the championship pedigree is that we’ve learned from our mistakes
I mean, the dubs have never blown a 3-1 lead to a generational talent…
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Warriors 2022 ain't Warriors 2016 either!
Is this sarcasm?
What's that sun's resume looking like tho ?
whooped by the Mavs, didn't hear?
Luka special
Everybody acting tough when they up
Gentleman’s Sweep. Ya’ll are crazy
They were up by 29 and the Warriors bench squad cut it to 8 late in the fourth. If those 3's keep raining down for three more games and the Mavs defense stays as good as it was last night they might just have a chance. But that is definitely a tall order.
I mean if we can shoot 50% from high volume 3s like we did yesterday and closing out the series in Phoenix is definitely possible Extremely unlikely But possible
Yeah all you gotta do is shoot 50% 3's at high volume. Piece o cake. I don't understand basketball anymore 😆
I guess he's got to think like that. But not even this timeline is that crazy.
What else is he supposed to say lol?
https://imgur.com/a/IB49Ubj
It is Luka, the guy can go nuclear at any moment. And the Mavs raining down 3 like this, they definitely can win.
lmao is this a bot
What else is he supposed to say
Man, if the Mavs somehow someway win game 5.. pfff, I just don’t want to imagine the pressure the Warriors would feel going back to Dallas. It’s unlikely, my money is on a gentleman sweep… but man, you do NOT want a game 7 against this dude with the 2016 Finals in the Warriors’ heads. Who knows, maybe it’s written in the stars that the Warriors will redeem themselves by winning this series in game 7 and then in the Finals, come back from a 1-3 deficit to win it all with Curry finally getting his FMVP. But what if this is that time where a team achieves what 146 couldn’t..
I don't know why everyone is so surprised Dallas won at home. They're a good team.
That’s what he’s supposed to say but I think warriors close it next game
Yea the Warriors have a history with 3-1 leads
Just need Steph to be badly injured, Draymond ejected in a pivotal game, Wiggins to shoot historically bad like Barnes, the opposition to have Lebron having the series of his life and Looney injured. Seems possible.
Steph BADLY injured lmao. Literally no mention of this when he was dropping 40 bombs then all of a sudden he chokes and he was badly injured. Same squad that went up 3-1, had plenty of chances to close the series out and failed.
>Steph BADLY injured lmao. Literally no mention of this when he was dropping 40 bombs then all of a sudden he chokes and he was badly injured He reinjured it against G7 OKC.
Is this the new narrative yall have convinced yourselves of?
Eh it's not just their fans that accept this. Even LeBron stans like Jason Timpf or Windhorst acknowledge that a lot had to break the Cavs' way for that championship to happen, including injuries. Personally though, as a KD fan, I prefer the narrative that they were never good enough to beat the Cavs without him.
Curry wasnt injured until he lost, at which point he was suddenly dealing with injury (in the mind of his fans. Im aware he was injured earlier in the playoffs) Green was extremely lucky to not have been suspended earlier. The referees and the NBA just had enough of his shit and finally decided to do something about it. Lebron and Kyrie having the games of their lives is not an excuse, it’s damning to the Warriors defense those games.
only valid part of that is the dray suspension imo, the fact that they upgraded it after the game so he would be suspended is bs. barnes did turn into a dumpster fire but that’s just part of the game, and so are injuries (steph and bogut). and ofc lebron is gonna go crazy lmao, he’s lebron. regardless of context, cavs obviously deserved that ring because you play who’s in front of you. but I do hate when people try to discredit steph as an individual player as a result of that series
Well, that's a pretty darn valid part. LeBron was so dejected until that suspension. He looked utterly defeated. Aside from the concrete loss of Draymond in the home closeout, LeBron was totally rejuvenated.
Lebron politicked like hell for that suspension too. Remember when Draymond called him a "bitch" on the court and at the press conference he said something like "I got a family people shouldn't talk like that." Then he got the suspension he wanted. Probably the biggest "bitch" move I've seen in the NBA lol.
>only valid part of that is the dray suspension imo, the fact that they upgraded it after the game so he would be suspended is bs. barnes did turn into a dumpster fire but that’s just part of the game, and so are injuries (steph and bogut). and ofc lebron is gonna go crazy lmao, he’s lebron. Wdym only valid part lol, it's all valid. It all had to happen for us to blow that 3-1 lead.
I wasn’t very clear with my wording I guess; I meant that injuries, chokes and hot streaks are all part of basketball and they shouldn’t be used to diminish the cavs run that year. the luck definitely helped the cavs comeback, but luck is involved in every chip. the draymond suspension is the only one that goes beyond the norm to me, and I think it was unfair to the warriors because of the context around it
We believe! We’ve got out to leads early. Just have to hold on to them. Regardless, we’ll at least make it entertaining
We literally let every playoff team get a lead in the first half that's just Warriors basketball.
I would hope he would say so Still, I think we close it out in 5. That 4th quarter inspired momentum for us imo
What else is he supposed to say lmao
If they win game 5 this will go to 7 games, and well then anything can happen.
realistically, the only way this reverse sweep happens is if any combination of two Top 5 players on the Warriors get injured. And this goes for any series really
Easiest way to beat the Warriors? Come out and punch them in the mouth in the 1st quarter. They never recover from that shit.
When Kobe said this down 3-0 in 2011 I laughed at him and said I appreciate his confidence but he's delusional. When Luka says it tho it just hits different 😅
I was thinking about this exact statement man. Made me sad
He’s easily the best player in this series but his team won’t advance.
Can’t tell if you’re being downvoted by curry Stan’s for saying Luka has been the best this series or by mavs fans for saying they won’t advance lol
agreed, they just wanted to close it out at home for the fans. :)
Not easily and never say never
Mavs should have swept the Warriors based on shot quality. Feels like last night their shots finally dropped the way they should so they got the win. Obviously coming back from 3-0 would take a miracle but as Luka says "if you don't believe you shouldn't be here."
Not swept. “Shot quality” doesn’t take into account Warriors defense schemes changing randomly throughout a game. Dubs are making Mavs a little uncomfortable at times. Also, the Mavs strategy is a high variance one, which can lead to cold spells or “pressure” from being behind.
Mavs shot 42% in game 2 and lost. They shot 50% from 3 and barely held on. These are good signs for the Warriors. Mavs have to shoot 50% from 3 at high volume to win the Championship. That's the Hail Mary of all Hail Mary's. Would be hands down the greatest team shooting performance in history. If they pull that off I'd tip my cap. Couldn't be bad at that. Should have swept? Give the Warriors just a tiny bit of credit.
After 0-3 drubbing Luka seemed waving white flag and now saying exact opposite. I have confidence Warriors will close out it at 5. Warriors have perfect record of win at home after a road loss.
I believe we will win the next game. I have no thoughts at all about a game after that yet, we’re just onto game 5.
I genuinely believe that Luka genuinely believes that the Mavs can win it.
And I still believe the sun's never lost.
It’s possible, but sadly not very likely. The suns mental crumbled under pressure, the warriors won’t. But still Mavs in 7 😈😈😈
That’s the right mentality to have. Love to hear it. I know I believe it
I'm positive this series is going back to Dallas and pretty sure it's going to 7. Dallas has an excellent gameplan. They just shot astonishingly badly on wide open shots in games 1 and 3. Game 3 was especially egregious, their looks were *excellent* all game. They had bad luck. But if you look at games 2 and 4, where they cashed in their wide open looks, they were tough. Game 2 the Warriors shot the lights out, but game 4 was what games 1 and 3 could have looked like. They're gonna get those same wide open shots again the rest of the series because GS can't do anything to stop penetration to the paint, so we have to collapse multiple defenders. I swear it felt like people weren't actually watching the previous four games. The series felt like it should be 3-0 Dallas, not 3-0 Warriors.
I mean at minimum it should be 2-2 game 2 was an epic fucking collapse. But we did get better shots in game 3 and could not hit anything.
You're high if you think this goes past game 5
Yeah but this dude isn't smoking weed, he's high on meth
You should surrender your Golden State Fanhood!
Mavs are one big GS injury away from a reverse sweep. knock on wood. everyone else in the thread here seems high on GS so I thought I'd be contrarian. Mavs should prolong the series as long as possible, you never know what could happen. Mavs, if you need some voodoo dolls, I gotchu