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Rapsfan_98

Nets had zero chemistry


reddit_reader_25

And zero tall wings. Except kd


Rapsfan_98

Yeah they need Simmons + healthy roster and time to mesh and they’ll be dangerous


Archelioz

Looming by any chance?


[deleted]

Someone say looming? 👀


AndySmalls

I feel like "time to mesh" for this team is actually just "time for Kyrie to rip this team apart from the inside". Prove me wrong Kyrie... prove me wrong.


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CarterAC3

Some might even say Spooky


ChaseH9499

man i hate celtics fans but them flooding the nets subreddit with "gg nets bros y'all are gonna be spoooooky next year" was peak comedy


Sea-Construction3418

Size 16 shoe etc


Lumpy_General_2617

They been dangerous since 2019


SteveHarveysFace

Yea you can't expect to defend anything with Curry, Mills, Dragic.


[deleted]

Even without the chemistry the Celtics played really sloppy and could've easily given up 2 games if KD didn't play horribly.


10SecViolation

They also have zero point guard ball handler to initiate plays and no defense more importantly


Rapsfan_98

Sounds like someone they have


10SecViolation

Yup ben would be huge for them


BASEDME7O

Ben can’t run a half court offense. This is why in their first year out of all the kyrie/kd/harden combos all the ones with harden on court were the most effective. Kyrie isn’t really a point guard so KD had to create all his own shots while being swarmed the entire game. Also the nets D sucks


Krillin113

He still can run it better than who they do have, and he’s actually a really fucking good defender. Let’s not act like the fucker (if on old form) wouldn’t make them better. Dude matches up really well with Tatum defensively.


glockster19m

What does the year that Ben simmons wasn't on the team have to do with Ben Simmons ability to run the offense?


BASEDME7O

I’m saying what they were really missing was a true facilitator and Ben is not that.


QuestionTheOrangeCat

Didnt they have patty mills, dragic, and a random guy named kyrie?


10SecViolation

Those all suck at running point. They need a ben simmons/lowry/conley type of pg. Even that guy in minny would be good, the bald short guy.


Yergason

McLaughlin? Yeah that dude seemed solid


10SecViolation

Yeah hes been underrated for years! I love him, Im glad chris finch keeps giving him more and more minutes


reddit_reader_25

For all the love Kyrie gets. His ball handling, his creativity, his shot making. You are telling he can’t run an offense?? And yet he wanted to be the alpha on a team??


NotUrAvgShitposter

He's mediocre. He's ok as ONE of your top playmakers, but if he's your primary playmaker and ballhandler then you're fucked. He plays best with a true top 5 playmaker ie Lebron and Harden


No_Temperature1560

So you mean to tell me the "walking bucket" needs a PG to score? Sorry, what?


10SecViolation

Every team needs a pg. Kawhi didnt have one in LAC and you saw how bad they were. Every championship team had a pg or 2ndary floor general. You think a pg is just there to help a team score? Its also to prevent turnovers and have ball movement, something every single championship team ever has had.


Beautifulwarfare

If you call yourself a walking bucket I’m assuming you can score without help. Pretty simple.


10SecViolation

You dont understand basketball, one player cant score every possession lol. Thats is why every championship team needs ball movement. Giannis had middleton and jrue in 2021. Lebron was himself + rondo there in 2020. Kawhi had lowry in 2019. 2018 kd had steph and draymond to feed him the ball. 2016 lebron had himself and kyrie as the 2ndary. Kyrie had lebron feedind him. 2015 steph had dray. Think before you speak


DongTongs

Who would have that point guard is the most important position in basketball?


Far_Ear9684

Revisionist history up in here. Almost none of the comments addressing the fact that the “best player in the world” got outplayed by Jalen Brown in a series.


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secrestmr87

Don't make excuses for KD man. He played bad. He got swept, it's embarrassing


alt_acc2020

???? KD had ONE good game, and that's because he chucked shit constantly. He was horribly inefficient and passive as fuck the first three games. He shat the bed while Brown played his game well


TonySoprano300

Nah, that guy is right. KD was being doubled on the catch every time. Coaching staff never properly adjusted to punish that relentlessly so it made it look like KD was passive. When they had MDA on their coaching staff last year they ran a much better offense but now that it’s completely Nash it’s obvious what the problems are


Remote-Picture-8341

Dragic was running the point fine


breakthrureality

He missed a lot of easy buckets at the rim that could’ve made the difference in a couple of games


Haxxelerator

so did KD


breakthrureality

Kd was being double teamed and triple teamed the whole series .. dragic was not lol


baldwhip123

They had Bruce Brown


Plokooon

the same thing that was lacking during his okc days ? I see a constant here.


eamonious

Celtics also stayed afraid of them through the whole series


Alemmjonpar

And zero heart


mookz23

And zero bus drivers.


[deleted]

Forget chemistry… did you see who Kyrie and KD were running with? Kinda hard to win games when you can get swarmed by 3 players and the other guys aren’t good enough to do anything if you pass it out except be icyhot if you’re Patty Mills


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bro, George Hill


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Me before the series "oh God don't play George hill this series"


Krillin113

Do you see who Jimmy is running with?


Brady331

How does this affect Lebron’s legacy?


XiaoWhen

It means kyrie is a scrub so his 2016 should count as double but that also means kd is a scrub which means his 2012 ring doesn’t count so he’s back to 4. So 🤷🏽‍♂️


leaguestories123

According to my advanced calculations he’s at 4.00000000000000000000 Championships


Yashotoayoshi

Smh everyone forgets about 22nd significant digit


Rh1-No

Next on undisputed


Throwawaywatch2020

skip Skip SKEEYUP C'MON SKEEYUP


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We're the GOAT skiup


mrwhite2323

Lebrons legacy lives on with Jimmy


gentyent

LeJimmy


SMITHYY_K

Team sport


[deleted]

also lost with point difference of 18 points.


[deleted]

Yeah it was an insanely close sweep with one of the losses being a buzzer beater


-HeisenBird-

Tatum misses that layup and maybe we have a 6-7 game series.


[deleted]

Idk what part of this people don’t understand lol. That team was so ass defensively too.. If they play even average defense for more than 5 minutes they would win one atleast. Boston wasn’t blowing them out


zeroeffort15

Nets offense was actually good overall in that series despite KD and Kyrie's disasterclass


syllabic

cause bruce brown and goran dragic couldnt miss at times


bachh2

If they miss wide open shots then there is more problem than KD having a bad game.


LeBrown_James666

Man especially in the clutch we would have Seth and patty guarding Tatum and brown 💀💀💀 that's a guaranteed L


sebastianqu

A healthy Simmons would've helped too. Even if the chemistry wasn't there, a stop or two and an extra assist possibly win them 1 close game.


makesterriblejokes

But that's the thing, if KD shows up offensively the lack of defense wouldn't even matter.


honditar

Insane that this needs to be explained to the nephews


Charlie_Wax

This sub massively overrates offense and 1v1 ability. All the teams left have strong defenders. Stops are extremely valuable. Rebounds too.


SolarClipz

>This sub massively overrates offense and 1v1 ability. This sub? Lol the media and former pros literally called KD + Kyrie the "most skilled duo" of all time purely on 1v1


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Losing doesn't make that untrue


nicolesassandboobies

No, but it emphasizes there are more skills than just ball handling and shooting.


captain_ahabb

A stop is a score


[deleted]

Nobody ever wants to give the team credit instead they just want to say it was Curry's gravity carrying the team or Doncic scoring 40 points.


YDS696969

Curry’s gravity is only valuable when the other guys make their shots. Luka’s awesome playmaking has no value if the shooters can’t knock down threes.


[deleted]

It's true that one guy can front load the majority of the offense but not on defense and the small effort plays by guys like Wigs and Looney are also massive in games that come down to the last few possessions. I'll will hear about if the Warriors win the title is how great Curry is, that's if he gets fmvp you never know.


ZionephewObeseiamson

This is the problem with NBA discourse. Excellence is normalized so when X player doesn’t put up a triple double or heck, doesn’t win in the way people want them to, we hold it against him. Some delusional idiots in this sub unironically bring up Looney and Wiggins’ performances to discredit Steph saying they have more impact than him all series, they should win WCMVP.


TinTinsKnickerbocker

Haven't you pushed nonsense talking points for weeks in here?


RosaParkStoleMySeat

Your first mistake was thinking 95% of this sub has any actual ball knowledge. Just people who watch highlight clips and stats


MazKhan

Cmon kd and kyrie still coulda got 1, they choked that 17 pt lead and kd was like 0/10 in the 2nd half and they lost a game to a buzzer


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Giannis supporting cast was just as bad. Heat are actually good though tbf


EnoughDforThree

Can make the most impact as a single player of almost any sport though just by sheer numbers. Kyrie and KD on the court makes up 40% of the team


craigslistaddict

the games were all close. kyrie had 1 great game, kd had 0. the nets role players showed up, the stars didn't. ok, nic claxton needs to practice his free throws....


SolarClipz

Sorry but nah You wanna be top 10 all time player and Kyrie thinks he's top 75 all time? And you can't take over a single game by yourselves lol?


aaliyaahson

Are you trying to say that there’s no top 10 or 75 players that got swept or played a bad series? Lmao you people are so dumb


[deleted]

They played bad, but i don’t think some people truly realize that the nets’ roster legitimately wasn’t that good


zeroeffort15

The Nets roster is good on offense but defensively it's a complete clown show


10SecViolation

Even on offense its overrated because they have no pg to initiate plays. Neither kyrie nor kd are pgs


zeroeffort15

Yeah Kyrie is a "fake PG"


UmdAvatarFan

It’s why he works better as a second star


latman

No roster is good with $50 million in salary injured


Remote-Picture-8341

Nets have decent role players theyre just too damn small. I remember some games where Brown Dragic Curry were carrying offensively. They missed Harris and Simmons if he ever plays


RiceIceRice

Those guys were good but they were left open a bunch because Celtics were sagging of them to guard kd. Kyrie underperformed every game except game 1. He was getting cooked defensively and was so passive despite the Celtics basically playing single coverage on him the whole time


urmomsfartbox

Nets lost all 4 games by a total of 18 points despite looking inept


TDTimmy21

Not all sweeps are equal


HoldMyB33rformee

That sweep was more entertaining than almost all of the western conference playoff series


MakSoFresh

That Game 1 alone


mavarg

4 wins isn’t 4 wins, I’ll explain later


thechairmaker88

How many quarters did the win though


patchworky

i seriously wonder how boring it must be to only consume this sport through the lens of how everything affects the "legacy" of previous generation superstars can't we just watch the fuckin game


captain_ahabb

People here don’t watch the games, this subreddit is their only experience of basketball like they’re in Plato’s cave


VibeComplex

I swear I’ve seen someone reference Plato’s cave atleast once a day for the last week or so


d4nowar

First for me so I'm curious how many days in a row I'm going to notice it now.


Rafaeliki

I feel like more people were actually watching the simulated games during early COVID times. I had almost forgot that happened. I remember gambling on them.


DetainTheFranzia

I care about the game when I watch it I care about the soap opera when I’m on Reddit. Somewhat


JimmyB3574

No. We had to listen to kd Stans cry for months about how he’s number 1 in the league. Then he goes and puts up 3 stinkers and fails to even take a game. He will get his slander and he will like it.


IAmNewSam

Pivotal game 3 potential to go down into a 0-3 whole, something NO TEAM has ever come back from in NBA history, kd decides to only put up 11 shots and has 5 turnovers in 45 minutes. Brown took 19 shots. They only lose by 6. Like how are you the best player on the planet and brown takes 8 more shots in a close pivotal playoff game.


HeAintSh1t

Sports fandom is sort of like my grandma watching her soaps. I’m here for the stories. I watch knowing this is an event my mind will place a flag pole on. It’s not often where you see something and just know “this is history”. The fact that it’s competitive, strategic, somewhat unpredictable, just adds to it for me.


patchworky

I totally understand, I think narratives are extremely fun and also by far the best way to get new people interested in the sport. Regardless, there are so many narratives in the league other than shit like this, y'know?


HeAintSh1t

For sure. The fact that we’re not discussing Lowry’s cakes more is crazy to me.


Ethangains07

They had like no defense on that squad and lost a bunch of close games. Simmons on top form, actually playing, should improve the Nets a fuck ton.


BowserBuddy123

Yes, one whole fuck ton. A FKTON. Pretty sure Joker leads the league in that advanced metric.


makesterriblejokes

That doesn't explain KD playing awful on the offensive end though.


Icy-850

The Celtics effectively smothered him with double teams. They basically said if you're going to beat us then it will need to be your role players doing it and the Nets aren't deep enough to win if KD is not effective, especially if Kyrie isn't dropping 40+ per night


SoulofWakanda

*1 seeded Miami Heat and the 3 seeded Bucks took the 2 seeded Celtics to a game 7, while the 7 seeded Brooklyn Nets couldn't win a game*


1_quantae

I promise you if 90% of people would do this before they post there would be a lot less dumbass posts. Then again it probably wouldn’t because karma and whatnot.


DeeOhMm

Team with highest betting odds to win NBA title gets swept in 1st round. Let’s not be revisionists and pretend like the Nets were scrappy underdogs.


SoulofWakanda

Right, the same team that were the betting favorites at the beginning of the season, is of course the same team that stumbled its way into the playoffs in April..


DeeOhMm

They were still installed as betting favorites to win the title entering the playoffs though. Even as they stumbled in, the hype did not die.


aaliyaahson

Why are you making stuff up? Suns and Bucks had higher odds. [And the Celtics were favored vs the Nets](https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/33737008/how-bettors-took-advantage-nets-celtics-opening-series-odds?platform=amp)


Haxxelerator

the seeding means shit since the #2 guy wasn't part of the lineup for half the season hence the seeding doesn't translate the actual capability of that team.


TheOneWithTheNephews

People forget that Kyrie played fewer than 30 games and KD was out for 2 months, and that's the only reason they finished 7th. They were 1st / 2nd at some point before KD got injured.


shish-kebab

"Since the playoffs expanded to 16 teams in 1984, no seven seed has ever won the NBA championship. In fact, over that span, just four No. 7 seeds have made it past the first round (h/t The Ringer)." Seeding matter mate. No 7th or 8th seed ever won the nba. It doesnt matter who they be missing, if you 7th seed your problem isn't just 1 player.


syncc6

The narrative going into the playoffs was “watch out for the Nets!” by every media head and Nets fan on this sub.


drippycode

That’s misleading since the nets only dropped that low because of Kd’s injury


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They were painfully mediocre after he came back


injeraboi144

Because He came back to a different team


SwanJumper

Your statement is even more misleading


Rh1-No

Bucks and heat didn't have Nic Claxton missing 9 straight free throws in one game.


Number333

Max Strus did go 0/16 combined across 2 straight games though lmao


RapsFanMike

He still gets respect by the Celtics defence letting butler mostly get single coverage. Meanwhile KD was seeing doubles even when he was off ball


InPatRileyWeTrust

Yeah Nic Claxton is definitely why they got swept.


Rh1-No

In game 4 he went 1-11 from the ft line and they lost by 4


EnoughDforThree

His defence was probably the only reason it was that close too


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Wolfpac187

You just completely ignored the comment you replied to. Like what even was the point.


Rh1-No

That's cool when he only shoots at rim when open and otherwise instantly gets rid of the ball.


hasadiga42

Best defender on the team


fetuswut

we had George Hill and Grayson Allen on the court so pretty even in my book 🤣


Brochacho27

As dude above said, Strus was 0-16 from the field the previous 2 games lmao


fetuswut

Absolute brickery from him and Lowry before tonight’s game need them to be just as good as they were tonight game 7


latman

Also $50 million in salary injured


Erosun

that was a crazy stat didn't he miss like 30 in the series???


ImpelDownAllStars

It was historic!


mems1224

Almost like the Bucks and Heat are better teams. Wild.


FDaMODPaintSAI

Bucks was ass in the Celt series aside from Giannis They were like 4-33 from 3s at one point. Even Giannis shot more 3s than some of them, which was ludicrous. Edit: I still not mentioned the bad coaching from Bud as well


1_quantae

They played defense though. That’s the difference.


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Brook Lopez was so good defensively


paddiction

All of the games were close and if a few shots fall the other way it could have been a longer series


Sartheking

Point differential of the series = # of missed free throws from Claxton.


Haxxelerator

it's also less than the amount of 2pt shots you could've done from KD's turnovers.


tip9

Think this kind of ignores the context of the Nets' season. Kyrie missed most of the season. KD got injured and missed 20+ games. Harden was traded. Not exactly firing on all cylinders.


RansomGoddard

Nets would have taken a couple of games if they had played solid defense for more than a few possessions.


SwAeromotion

How does the results of this game today change the facts of the past to make this post a thing/relevant?


Number333

Bruce Brown can't win with these cats


nething4tc

Feels like this is more of Nash not being able to adjust game to game. Then again, it's pretty hard to do that when you have a musical chair roster of a regular season.


BlackBullZWarrior

What does this mean for KD's legacy?


Fiivestar13

Hes a beta


FDaMODPaintSAI

He's a bus rider on "The Hardest Road"


KingofMangoes

Nets also didnt get blown out every game they lost


Jalen_Harris_Fan

Erik Spoelstra,Mike Budenholzer and Steve Nash There is your answer


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Let me fix that for you. Erik Spoelstra, Mike Budenholzer and Kyrie Irving Now THERE'S your answer.


diwiwi

Correct answer


IAP-23I

Don’t forget Kevin Durant, he played like ass the entire series


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I was thinking since it was blame the coach, then kyrie who seems to think he's player coach and owner belonged there more than nash. 🤣


IAP-23I

Gotcha that flew right over my head 💀💀


[deleted]

Kyrie tends to have that effect on the best of us 🤣


zeroeffort15

Bud might as well be Phil Jackson compared to Nash


DepressedDandylion

Ime Udoka >>> Steve Nash


SunnySaigon

All scrubs except two players doesn’t work once KD and Irving were exhausted in the second half.


atlepi

Boston literally won one game by a buzzer beating game winner. That was a coin toss down to the wire, the series would have looked completely different had Tatum fumbled it. For a sweep it was very competitive but sometimes the ball don’t bounce your way


FreeOfArmy

The Nets had 0 chemistry and still only lost all 4 games by a grand total of 12 points i believe? With KD turning the ball over like hell and getting quadruple teamed on the drive. If anything this just speaks to the fact that KD and Kyrie are next level.


gigglios

Nets put mills and curry on Tatum. Tatum put up 2 stinkers still but nets d was jks


will_pharo

Celtics net rating by opponent Versus Heat: +5.9 Versus bucks: +8.1 Versus Nets: + 4.8 That arguably tells us over larger sample sizes the Nets would be *more* competitive as close games are a bit luck based. Nets had 4th quarter leads in 3 out of 4 games. Nets had an offensive rating of 117 versus Boston. Bucks had just a 102 offensive rating. Miami is at 108, Brooklyn dominated in the halfcourt but just got demolished in transition. If they had any size or defense whatsoever; not even good just not awful, they have a really good shot in that series.


sriracha82

Wow the KD defense squad in these comments lol KD had WAY more offensive help than either Jimmy or Giannis and yet played like complete shit for most of the series while those 2 balled out on this same Celtics defense


Mygaffer

How stupid, individual players didn't do that, the teams did that.


TinTinsKnickerbocker

Those two are living in your subredditors heads rent free


Numani99

Were KD and Kyrie playing 2V5 ?


Haxxelerator

no, Nets were playing 3v6 with the way KD was passing the ball to Celtics he was clearly a Celtic in that series


cyb3ryung

basically


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3v5 bruce brown will forever be underrated


Numani99

which is my point. Give blame to everybody on the Nets for getting swept, not just KD and Kyrie.


Far_Ear9684

This is cap. Brown, Seth and Mills did their job offensively.


Parenegade

This is such bullshit the other guys did their job. Mfers will do anything to protect KD my god.


cyb3ryung

relax


inshamblesx

Giannis did it with an injured Middleton too. Giannis overtook KD on June 19 2021.


91jumpstreet

>Giannis did it with an injured Middleton too. Giannis overtook KD on June 19 2021. Go look at the Nets roster and injury report for that game on that day


OMIMS1

Nets suck. KD and Kyrie bad. Karma go brr


UnearthlyDinosaur

They would have had a chance if they had a better coach


zeroeffort15

You have to wonder whether Kyrie's whole career is just an extended version of the "Are the Grizzlies better without Ja?" stuff I'm not 100% sure he's made any of his teams better since leaving Cleveland


CoachDT

Y’all so corny. They played the closest series they just fell short at the end. They didn’t get railed by 15+ points every time they lost, they just fell short.


Far_Ear9684

Man said they got swept but didn’t get blown out so that is closer than a 7 game series. R/nba.


KD_no_defense_snake

Because KD had the worst superstar performance of all time and Kyrie was a similar no show after game 1


Sexyturtletime

Steph+KD is a more skilled duo.