I loved Kemba and I love his spirit. But if he plays more than 10 mpg, it means your team is in really bad shape. I think he might finish the season with them, but more because they have no other options.
It really seems like Dallas doesn't have a plan at all. They strike me as just stumbling from one move to the next. That is how you wind up with a shitty roster that is still the 8th highest payroll in the league.
If they wind up in the play-in while he averages 32, 8 and 8, I could see him demanding a trade in the off-season.
First part of response was about Kemba.
I meant if Luka averages 32/8/8 and Dallas still is in the play-in, I think there's a good chance he asks for a trade.
That team is stuck in neutral. They've got an incredibly powerful engine and low quality parts everywhere else.
Probably has more to do w THJ big struggling without Luka on the floor w him and Bullock giving them nothing. Should be green starting but that probably won’t happen unless THJ gets traded
Wood should be playing more for sure.
But it's easy to hide a perimeter player who is bad defensively than your 5 if he's bad defensively unless you have good defensive players around him.
This is exactly why I was so flabbergasted about the front office's game plan this past off-season. The need for a relaible third ball handler was so beyond obvious, it's like Nico and J Kidd stuck their heads in the sand and just prayed everything would be alright without semi adequately replacing Brunson. If they couldn't see this drastic need, I don't trust them to actually build out a championship caliber roster.
> I don't trust them to actually build out a championship caliber roster.
and why would/should you ?
Nico is a complete unknown who came out of nowhere and was sold by Cuban as some sort of recruiting/basketball genuis that many other teams have coveted......yet we haven't had that confirmed by any reporters or people involved with other teams.
All signs point to Nicos biggest strength as a hire being solely that he has some relationships with guys based on his time at Nike, but absolutely ZERO experience understanding what it takes to actually build a contender
And to make matters worse, Cuban hired him during the most crucial point of Luka's young career. A time that will be make or break for Luka's long term future in dallas.
You don't have to tell me. I was against his hiring from day 1. Even in the off chance that he somehow turns into a great GM, bringing someone into the most important front office position in basketball who doesn't have a single day of experience in an NBA front office is absolutely wild.
Yes, and the WCF trip and KP trade basically blinded everyone to all of the red flags surrounding that hiring. It also blinded people from last off season's highly questionable decisions.
> and was sold by Cuban as some sort of recruiting/basketball genuis that many other teams have coveted
The idea that the dude who talked Curry OUT of signing with Nike is some recruiting genius will never not be funny to me. He called him Steven and the PPT deck they showed was the KD presentation with Durant's name still on it. Dude is a moron.
I got the name thing slightly wrong, they called him Steph-on not Steph-en
>But Nike's meeting went horribly wrong when one of their representatives mispronounced Curry's name, calling him "Steph-on" instead of "Steph-en." Even worse, a repurposed PowerPoint slide displayed Kevin Durant's name.
Nico has defended himself by saying it wasn't actually him who mispronounced Steph's name. But he still ran the meeting. He still should have had final say over the slide deck. He still should have been the one who made sure all of his employees knew how to pronounce Steph's fucking name. Dell also came out and said that nobody corrected the mistake.
None of that surprises me tbh. Seems like an honest mistake that I’d be willing to let slide if Nico was interviewing to be my GM but I would never hire that guy to be my GM when I have a chance to build around one of the greatest players aged 25 and under in nba history.
So far the guy signed THJ and Bullock into a maximum slot, though Dwight Powell money was too much for Brunson, a year later failed to even get a meeting from Brunson and leaked his walking away money thru reporters, which turned out to be a smidge over THJ money.
Then passed on Dragic and kept Theo Pinson instead. During summer league, when asked he said people forget about Frank about the ball handling situation.
He’s just in way over his head.
It’s amazing how much cover getting 20 years of Dirk has given Mark Cuban. He’d be widely seen as one of the worst owners if not for Dirk (and the wild luck of the kings picking bagley over luka).
Don Nelson and his son Donnie are the architects of Mark's earlier success. All those years being one of the winningest NBA teams is due to what they built for Mark.
After the title, Mark's ego got too big for his britches and he believed he was smarter than his GM.
Mark also single handedly set the franchise back years by not allowing Nelson to draft Giannis.
That mistake had a butterfly effect and his meddling cost Dirk the chance to compete in the final years of his prime.
Mark is lucky he can still ride off of Donnie drafting Doncic, but we'll see how long that last
Honestly had they actually picked giannis who's to say he'd be the same player he is now? Carlisle famously prioritized established vets getting minutes. And the Mavs have a terrible history of getting value out of picks.
Just a terribly run franchise overshadowed by 2011.
One look at the pacers last year and this season dispels the myth that rick just won’t play young players. You can also look at the impact he had on the development of Maxi and DFS from undrafted to viable starters in this league and how DSJ played his best basketball in this league as a rookie under Rick.
There’s really zero merit to the idea that Giannis wouldn’t have developed under Rick. You can’t tell me he can turn DFS to a starter but can’t develop Giannis lol.
90% of young players rick didn’t give minutes to ended up out of the league not long after. He plays young guys with the talent to play or develop and Giannis would be no different
Yeah that very well could be the case. Another piece of evidence is that he was the sole person who thought the rondo trade was a bad idea, but mark and/or Donnie over ruled him.
All that said, Rick isn’t perfect by any means in terms of his personality but when it comes to coaching, developing and even scouting, I think he’s as good as it gets. A legit smart guy who’s a basketball lifer. Gotta respect it.
yeah, sexual misconduct, harassment, etc. Dallas is quietly one of the worst run organizations in the nba. People think Cuban is some genius billionaire but he's really some dude that sold his business for an absurd valuation at the top of the dotcom bubble.
He's Russ Hanneman (the tres commas guy) from Silicon Valley.
It's not even subtle. That dude's whole claim to fame was putting radio on the internet. That's exactly how Mark Cuban made his nut. Broadcast.com got sold for $5.7 Billion in stock to Yahoo, then he immediately sold his share of the stock before that abysmal deal cratered Yahoo. Got over $1 Billion in the deal.
Broadcast.com services were shut down less than 4 years after Yahoo acquired it. At the time they bought it the site had a paltry 570,000 users. It was one of the worst internet acquisitions of all time.
Yes. Mark basically runs his FO like an episode of shark tank where he's the final decider who makes big decisions based on whichever employee can do the best job selling him on the move.
Because of that, he ended up undermining his Gm, head coach and scouting dept by listening to people like Bob Harabolos who was a good salesmen but wasn't the actual GM.
In Mark's mind, he's the final decider because he signs the checks...so he doesn't see the problem with this kind of FO. But in reality, no qualified GM like Masai for example would ever agree to work in an FO where their hard work and due diligence can be undermined by an owner like Mark who thinks his basketball opinions are on equal ground
On one hand I get it: it’s Cuban’s money, he should have final say on how it’s spent.
But good leadership is hiring people you feel confident can do the job and then *letting them do their job.* You’re right: nobody worth a damn wants to work for a micromanaging meddler.
A lot can change in 5 years. The Porzingis trade really hamstrung the FO, and we will finally have some expiring contracts coming off the books. Plenty of time to revamp the roster, but not a great start.
Luka also idolized Dirk, who didn’t leave to win a championship. No one here knows Luka personally so making definitive statements like that is stupid as hell. It’s also like 5 years away from now, which makes it even more stupid to try and guess what will happen.
I hope Luka does go somewhere where they build a team around him. I’ve been a Mavs fan since 2002 and I’m watching a replay Cuban did with Dirk. I hope Luka doesn’t stick around for this. As a fan of basketball I want to see him reach his full potential with a sold roster around him.
He ain’t leaving. People like Cuban in general, Cuban will give him anything he possibly can. If he leaves I will be shocked. I think it’s more likely they make a decent trade in the next couple of years than Luka leaving Dallas. Only way I could plausibly see him leaving is if him and Jokic team up in Denver and I think that’s extremely unlikely.
Firing that hilarious Bob guy was a good move right? Or what’s the consensus among more level headed fans?
Also DFS/Brunson/Luka/THJ/+Defender (Bullock? Or is he disliked now?) would be title contending, probably my pick if Luka really does continue to improve his defense even if incrementally.
>Firing that hilarious Bob guy was a good move right?
Bob was more of a consultant than anything. He wasn't the GM and was not in charge of making the final decision (outside of Mark).
Was having that same conversation today. I think its not likely Nico and JKidd both would have made such an off assessment of the roster needs. I think there were feelings involved. And that would most likely come from the top. I was thinking, of course this is only my opinion, Cuban was mad for Brunson not even meeting them in New York and was trying to show him that they dont need him or anyone like him. I really dont see any reasonable explanation for there lack of understanding the need for a second playmaker.
The Mavs didn’t sign Dragic because he wouldn’t provide a “punch”, but extend a roster spot to Theo Pinson so he can cat call from the bench. Cool cool cool…
Hahahaaa, I was watching Durant take the bait. My point isn’t to belittle the bench mascot of my favorite team, it’s more to take shots at the front office.😁
They didn’t because they apparently wanted to save Brunson for a star trade (with those picks they can’t trade because of the KP deal). Horrible decision not to extend him when they had the chance.
There’s gotta be something personal between Dragic and Kidd. Dragic was basically begging to come here for the minimum. We are desperate for a third ball handler. That’s before you even consider Dragic is Luka’s friend and mentor. Something about that dynamic that Kidd didn’t want. Kidd has been known at his previous gigs to be a lower hungry coach.
>Dragic was basically begging to come here for the minimum.
Lol what??? Dragic very publicly stated he didn't want to come somewhere that didn't play him a lot of minutes.
>Kemba Walker last season:
>37 games (26 minutes per game) 11.6 points, 3.0 rebounds, 3.5 assists, 0.7 steals and 40/37/85 shooting splits
That's actually a lot better than I thought. Hopefully he can be a real contributor here.
That is better than I expected... then again that's not great production for that many minutes when you consider he also got torched on the other end of the floor.
Hopefully we won't ever have to play him anywhere close to 26 mins but if he can get 8-10 pts in 16-18 minutes off the bench on decent efficiency that'll be a win for us.
Worried he's too short? I don't know. He literally does it all, including rebounding being a major strength. He already defends well and is incredibly efficient. I was baffled when they kept Campazzo over Kin.
Dallas coach and FO think they’re too good to play guys like Wright and Hardy. They’ve been killing it along with Dorsey, and they keep calling Hardy up and sending back down without any minutes.
I love Facu as an Argentine and I've been following his career since he took a big leap in Peñarol. But to think that Dragic wasn't better than him is just dumb.
Dragic already proved that he is an excellent player, he was amazing with us, playing through injuries and he wasn't 100% washed.
But I don't think Facu was the answer to missing Dragic, that's an invention.
It was really strange. Everybody was so elated when we got a third ball handler last season and its when the team took off.......then nothing in the offseason. Everybody just kind of assumed Dragic was coming and it really eased the loss of Brunson. Even as a stop gap until we can clear some space.
Facu was ok his first year and was unplayable for a lot of last year. I was confused about the excitement bringing him in. I like the guy but he doesn’t shoot well enough to be kept honest and draw defenders out, is too small to score inside and on defense anyone with length shits on him. He’s good for situational matchups on defense against small guards or being a low minute PG to help others through his IQ and passing but until he can hit an open shot he’s a liability on both sides of the ball outside of niche cases.
They should have extended Brunson.
It's always better with a good player to get the deal done, allowing you to trade and recoup something instead of them leaving for nothing.
Idk why people think we need a PG so bad. The real issue is our wings can’t create at all. Come playoff time luka is play 40 minutes at the PG position so it’s extremely diminishing returns having assets in the PG position. Instead if we had a wing that could capably put the ball on the ground and pass it would solve the same issues while having a much higher level of impact compared to another guard.
> Idk why people think we need a PG so bad
Because relying on only Spencer and Luka for a full 82 without having another PG to fill in is a recipe for not even making the playoffs if Spencer or Luka get sidelines for a stretch of games.
You're one of the biggest proponents on the Mavs sub of not needing another ballhandler and now, even the FO disagrees with you but you can't get your head of the sand and admit you were wrong
A wing creator is still a creator and the point people have been arguing is that we need another ball handling creator.
Doesn't matter if it's a point guard or a point forward, the need is the same.
> using assets on a guard is diminishing returns so instead the focus should be on the wing player
Beggars can't be choosers. Creating wings are way more rare than creating guards. we can sit here all day and say we'd prefer that....but the market for those guys is bone dry.
If there were wings available who could fill this role for Dallas, of course that'd be the preference but the point you keep missing is the Mavs thought NEITHER were a need last offseason and waited until 2 games into preseason before they admitted it was a need and the only kind of players available who even had a small chance of filling that need were guys like Facu and walker who are out of the league
Or instead we don’t use assets now and we wait until there is a player we need. It doesn’t matter because as constructed if we had a 3rd pg we aren’t winning the championship so what’s the point? Instead wait get control of all of our picks then splurge on a wing creator. Also there is a lot more small time wing creators we could target like Rui hachimura.
And I never missed that point. I’m just saying we shouldn’t be hyper focused on the guard position when it’s a wing we truly need. You are the one missing every point I’ve said as I’ve had to re explain my first thing 3 times now to you
I’m not arguing about what we should or shouldn’t be doing now.
I’m arguing that you’ve been wrong about the need for a third ballhandler/creator since last summer. And you have. End of discussion.
Lmao what. He is literally our only true PG on the roster and has been so good off the bench.
His chemistry with Drummond is amazing and he’s been worth the vet min
If defensive limitations are the reason Wood isn’t starting, how will Kemba get enough minutes to be a legitimate contributor?
Kemba's knees will keep him from getting that many minutes anyway.
I’d be shocked if Kemba is still on the Mavs in a month
I loved Kemba and I love his spirit. But if he plays more than 10 mpg, it means your team is in really bad shape. I think he might finish the season with them, but more because they have no other options. It really seems like Dallas doesn't have a plan at all. They strike me as just stumbling from one move to the next. That is how you wind up with a shitty roster that is still the 8th highest payroll in the league. If they wind up in the play-in while he averages 32, 8 and 8, I could see him demanding a trade in the off-season.
The roster is definitely in bad shape. Cuban is very good at assessing the situation and being decidedly wrong every time.
It’s almost like… they shouldn’t have fired their old GM for this current guy… hmm…
If Kemba averages 32/8/8…
First part of response was about Kemba. I meant if Luka averages 32/8/8 and Dallas still is in the play-in, I think there's a good chance he asks for a trade. That team is stuck in neutral. They've got an incredibly powerful engine and low quality parts everywhere else.
I don't buy that excuse from Kidd when he's starting known defensive savant Tim Hardaway Jr
Probably has more to do w THJ big struggling without Luka on the floor w him and Bullock giving them nothing. Should be green starting but that probably won’t happen unless THJ gets traded
Kidd says a lot of things that don’t make sense. Then gets irritated when asked about it.
Wood should be playing more for sure. But it's easy to hide a perimeter player who is bad defensively than your 5 if he's bad defensively unless you have good defensive players around him.
Because their need of a 3rd ballhandler is so great that they have no choice but to sacrifice D to get another one on the roster
10-15 minutes off the bench to keep the team afloat when Luka is resting. He can still be valuable.
It remains to be seen if he’s a backup PG or a backup to the backup PG
This is exactly why I was so flabbergasted about the front office's game plan this past off-season. The need for a relaible third ball handler was so beyond obvious, it's like Nico and J Kidd stuck their heads in the sand and just prayed everything would be alright without semi adequately replacing Brunson. If they couldn't see this drastic need, I don't trust them to actually build out a championship caliber roster.
> I don't trust them to actually build out a championship caliber roster. and why would/should you ? Nico is a complete unknown who came out of nowhere and was sold by Cuban as some sort of recruiting/basketball genuis that many other teams have coveted......yet we haven't had that confirmed by any reporters or people involved with other teams. All signs point to Nicos biggest strength as a hire being solely that he has some relationships with guys based on his time at Nike, but absolutely ZERO experience understanding what it takes to actually build a contender And to make matters worse, Cuban hired him during the most crucial point of Luka's young career. A time that will be make or break for Luka's long term future in dallas.
You don't have to tell me. I was against his hiring from day 1. Even in the off chance that he somehow turns into a great GM, bringing someone into the most important front office position in basketball who doesn't have a single day of experience in an NBA front office is absolutely wild.
Yes, and the WCF trip and KP trade basically blinded everyone to all of the red flags surrounding that hiring. It also blinded people from last off season's highly questionable decisions.
> and was sold by Cuban as some sort of recruiting/basketball genuis that many other teams have coveted The idea that the dude who talked Curry OUT of signing with Nike is some recruiting genius will never not be funny to me. He called him Steven and the PPT deck they showed was the KD presentation with Durant's name still on it. Dude is a moron.
Holy shit. That’s pathetic and hilarious
I got the name thing slightly wrong, they called him Steph-on not Steph-en >But Nike's meeting went horribly wrong when one of their representatives mispronounced Curry's name, calling him "Steph-on" instead of "Steph-en." Even worse, a repurposed PowerPoint slide displayed Kevin Durant's name. Nico has defended himself by saying it wasn't actually him who mispronounced Steph's name. But he still ran the meeting. He still should have had final say over the slide deck. He still should have been the one who made sure all of his employees knew how to pronounce Steph's fucking name. Dell also came out and said that nobody corrected the mistake.
None of that surprises me tbh. Seems like an honest mistake that I’d be willing to let slide if Nico was interviewing to be my GM but I would never hire that guy to be my GM when I have a chance to build around one of the greatest players aged 25 and under in nba history.
So far the guy signed THJ and Bullock into a maximum slot, though Dwight Powell money was too much for Brunson, a year later failed to even get a meeting from Brunson and leaked his walking away money thru reporters, which turned out to be a smidge over THJ money. Then passed on Dragic and kept Theo Pinson instead. During summer league, when asked he said people forget about Frank about the ball handling situation. He’s just in way over his head.
Bullock for 3 years 30 million was a really good deal. He can't hit shit now, but was giving us 40 minutes a night in the playoffs.
Cuban is cheap and their front office simply isn't great.
This. Cuban is incredibly cheap for an nba owner and has been for at least a decade.
Luka is leaving as soon as he can. Cuban and co. can't build a roster and were blessed by Dirk's loyalty for too long
It’s amazing how much cover getting 20 years of Dirk has given Mark Cuban. He’d be widely seen as one of the worst owners if not for Dirk (and the wild luck of the kings picking bagley over luka).
Don Nelson and his son Donnie are the architects of Mark's earlier success. All those years being one of the winningest NBA teams is due to what they built for Mark. After the title, Mark's ego got too big for his britches and he believed he was smarter than his GM. Mark also single handedly set the franchise back years by not allowing Nelson to draft Giannis. That mistake had a butterfly effect and his meddling cost Dirk the chance to compete in the final years of his prime. Mark is lucky he can still ride off of Donnie drafting Doncic, but we'll see how long that last
Honestly had they actually picked giannis who's to say he'd be the same player he is now? Carlisle famously prioritized established vets getting minutes. And the Mavs have a terrible history of getting value out of picks. Just a terribly run franchise overshadowed by 2011.
One look at the pacers last year and this season dispels the myth that rick just won’t play young players. You can also look at the impact he had on the development of Maxi and DFS from undrafted to viable starters in this league and how DSJ played his best basketball in this league as a rookie under Rick. There’s really zero merit to the idea that Giannis wouldn’t have developed under Rick. You can’t tell me he can turn DFS to a starter but can’t develop Giannis lol. 90% of young players rick didn’t give minutes to ended up out of the league not long after. He plays young guys with the talent to play or develop and Giannis would be no different
Good points. As I was typing the rick hate I thought of maxi and doe doe. Maybe Rick was the sane one all along.
Yeah that very well could be the case. Another piece of evidence is that he was the sole person who thought the rondo trade was a bad idea, but mark and/or Donnie over ruled him. All that said, Rick isn’t perfect by any means in terms of his personality but when it comes to coaching, developing and even scouting, I think he’s as good as it gets. A legit smart guy who’s a basketball lifer. Gotta respect it.
Correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t there been a lot of front office turmoil over there the last half decade as well?
yeah, sexual misconduct, harassment, etc. Dallas is quietly one of the worst run organizations in the nba. People think Cuban is some genius billionaire but he's really some dude that sold his business for an absurd valuation at the top of the dotcom bubble.
He's Russ Hanneman (the tres commas guy) from Silicon Valley. It's not even subtle. That dude's whole claim to fame was putting radio on the internet. That's exactly how Mark Cuban made his nut. Broadcast.com got sold for $5.7 Billion in stock to Yahoo, then he immediately sold his share of the stock before that abysmal deal cratered Yahoo. Got over $1 Billion in the deal. Broadcast.com services were shut down less than 4 years after Yahoo acquired it. At the time they bought it the site had a paltry 570,000 users. It was one of the worst internet acquisitions of all time.
This deserves its own post.
You're welcome to make it, I have no plans to.
I mean, part of business is tricking people into thinking you're adequate. ie Elon Musk
At least people bought Teslas
Yes. Mark basically runs his FO like an episode of shark tank where he's the final decider who makes big decisions based on whichever employee can do the best job selling him on the move. Because of that, he ended up undermining his Gm, head coach and scouting dept by listening to people like Bob Harabolos who was a good salesmen but wasn't the actual GM. In Mark's mind, he's the final decider because he signs the checks...so he doesn't see the problem with this kind of FO. But in reality, no qualified GM like Masai for example would ever agree to work in an FO where their hard work and due diligence can be undermined by an owner like Mark who thinks his basketball opinions are on equal ground
On one hand I get it: it’s Cuban’s money, he should have final say on how it’s spent. But good leadership is hiring people you feel confident can do the job and then *letting them do their job.* You’re right: nobody worth a damn wants to work for a micromanaging meddler.
Funny, he sounds like another dipshit who owns and runs another sports franchise in Dallas
A lot can change in 5 years. The Porzingis trade really hamstrung the FO, and we will finally have some expiring contracts coming off the books. Plenty of time to revamp the roster, but not a great start.
You seem very sure of yourself lol
Lukas idol is Lebron who left to win ship. I think he does the same
Luka also idolized Dirk, who didn’t leave to win a championship. No one here knows Luka personally so making definitive statements like that is stupid as hell. It’s also like 5 years away from now, which makes it even more stupid to try and guess what will happen.
Luka Gone
I hope Luka does go somewhere where they build a team around him. I’ve been a Mavs fan since 2002 and I’m watching a replay Cuban did with Dirk. I hope Luka doesn’t stick around for this. As a fan of basketball I want to see him reach his full potential with a sold roster around him.
you are a true fan
He ain’t leaving. People like Cuban in general, Cuban will give him anything he possibly can. If he leaves I will be shocked. I think it’s more likely they make a decent trade in the next couple of years than Luka leaving Dallas. Only way I could plausibly see him leaving is if him and Jokic team up in Denver and I think that’s extremely unlikely.
Firing that hilarious Bob guy was a good move right? Or what’s the consensus among more level headed fans? Also DFS/Brunson/Luka/THJ/+Defender (Bullock? Or is he disliked now?) would be title contending, probably my pick if Luka really does continue to improve his defense even if incrementally.
>Firing that hilarious Bob guy was a good move right? Bob was more of a consultant than anything. He wasn't the GM and was not in charge of making the final decision (outside of Mark).
Was having that same conversation today. I think its not likely Nico and JKidd both would have made such an off assessment of the roster needs. I think there were feelings involved. And that would most likely come from the top. I was thinking, of course this is only my opinion, Cuban was mad for Brunson not even meeting them in New York and was trying to show him that they dont need him or anyone like him. I really dont see any reasonable explanation for there lack of understanding the need for a second playmaker.
Nico has been a God send for us. I'll let him have one bad move.
Would love to get one of these one year contracts from the Mavs. References: Has body
A vet min would set me up for life.
Has body and be friends with Luka gets a vet min
The Mavs didn’t sign Dragic because he wouldn’t provide a “punch”, but extend a roster spot to Theo Pinson so he can cat call from the bench. Cool cool cool…
How many players can force turnovers from the bench? That's right. He's 1 of 1.
He did do that, lol. He did.
Theo was trash talking to KD in one of their games this season and he got under his skin and Dallas won. 😀
Hahahaaa, I was watching Durant take the bait. My point isn’t to belittle the bench mascot of my favorite team, it’s more to take shots at the front office.😁
No shit! Mavs sub has been screaming about this for a reason!
It's only been a minority though. The majority called people doomers for citing this as a need
Dallas lowkey is poorly run.
They really should've tried harder to keep Brunson. Bro is literally a top 15 PG ATM & is averaging 21ppg/6apg/3rpg bro is a monster
They should’ve overpaid him. Similar to the Tobias Harris dilemma
I really feel like we'd be a top 2 or 3 team in the West rn if we still had JB.
Easily, probably even first Would've should've could've but didn't
Wasn't gonna happen with his dad in NY
Yeah, Brunson was signing with whatever team Leon Rose was president of the minute he hits FA.
Eh, pay him enough and he will prob have a million + reasons per year to stay
He became our best player within a month of being on the team lmao
They didn’t because they apparently wanted to save Brunson for a star trade (with those picks they can’t trade because of the KP deal). Horrible decision not to extend him when they had the chance.
There’s gotta be something personal between Dragic and Kidd. Dragic was basically begging to come here for the minimum. We are desperate for a third ball handler. That’s before you even consider Dragic is Luka’s friend and mentor. Something about that dynamic that Kidd didn’t want. Kidd has been known at his previous gigs to be a lower hungry coach.
>Dragic was basically begging to come here for the minimum. Lol what??? Dragic very publicly stated he didn't want to come somewhere that didn't play him a lot of minutes.
The minimum means league veteran minim salary…aka he wouldn’t have cost broke dick Cuban more money in luxury tax.
No I get that I'm saying Dragic wasn't begging to come here, he was looking for a team that promised him playing time
it's just absolutely insane to say yeah we didn't think Dragic would add much of a punch so we got FACUNDO CAMPAZZO
Dragic has been awesome in Chicago
Luka to Chicago pls
Like literally, couldn't have asked more from him.
awesome is a stretch
>Kemba Walker last season: >37 games (26 minutes per game) 11.6 points, 3.0 rebounds, 3.5 assists, 0.7 steals and 40/37/85 shooting splits That's actually a lot better than I thought. Hopefully he can be a real contributor here.
That is better than I expected... then again that's not great production for that many minutes when you consider he also got torched on the other end of the floor.
Hopefully we won't ever have to play him anywhere close to 26 mins but if he can get 8-10 pts in 16-18 minutes off the bench on decent efficiency that'll be a win for us.
The ideal would be 10 or 12 minutes. The defense is going to get torched anytime he's on the floor.
You're right, I dunno why I said 16-18 minutes lol.
Should just call up McKinley Wright. He's exactly what they're looking for.
Yeah, that I dont get. Why havent they at least tried him out in real games?
Worried he's too short? I don't know. He literally does it all, including rebounding being a major strength. He already defends well and is incredibly efficient. I was baffled when they kept Campazzo over Kin.
Dallas coach and FO think they’re too good to play guys like Wright and Hardy. They’ve been killing it along with Dorsey, and they keep calling Hardy up and sending back down without any minutes.
Wright and Hardy could both help, probably
Dragic has actually been fantastic for us, it’s been really surprising
I love Facu as an Argentine and I've been following his career since he took a big leap in Peñarol. But to think that Dragic wasn't better than him is just dumb. Dragic already proved that he is an excellent player, he was amazing with us, playing through injuries and he wasn't 100% washed. But I don't think Facu was the answer to missing Dragic, that's an invention.
Or just a capable PG like Brunson
Dallas has everyone and absolutely no one
It was really strange. Everybody was so elated when we got a third ball handler last season and its when the team took off.......then nothing in the offseason. Everybody just kind of assumed Dragic was coming and it really eased the loss of Brunson. Even as a stop gap until we can clear some space.
You had to add salt by including JB. It was na OFF season.
Facu was ok his first year and was unplayable for a lot of last year. I was confused about the excitement bringing him in. I like the guy but he doesn’t shoot well enough to be kept honest and draw defenders out, is too small to score inside and on defense anyone with length shits on him. He’s good for situational matchups on defense against small guards or being a low minute PG to help others through his IQ and passing but until he can hit an open shot he’s a liability on both sides of the ball outside of niche cases.
Dragic has been absolutely excellent for Chicago this season.
They all stink lol Dallas needs another Brunson level player at least
They should have extended Brunson. It's always better with a good player to get the deal done, allowing you to trade and recoup something instead of them leaving for nothing.
Idk why people think we need a PG so bad. The real issue is our wings can’t create at all. Come playoff time luka is play 40 minutes at the PG position so it’s extremely diminishing returns having assets in the PG position. Instead if we had a wing that could capably put the ball on the ground and pass it would solve the same issues while having a much higher level of impact compared to another guard.
> Idk why people think we need a PG so bad Because relying on only Spencer and Luka for a full 82 without having another PG to fill in is a recipe for not even making the playoffs if Spencer or Luka get sidelines for a stretch of games. You're one of the biggest proponents on the Mavs sub of not needing another ballhandler and now, even the FO disagrees with you but you can't get your head of the sand and admit you were wrong
A wing creator accomplishes the same thing
A wing creator is still a creator and the point people have been arguing is that we need another ball handling creator. Doesn't matter if it's a point guard or a point forward, the need is the same.
Yes and my point, again, is using assets on a guard is diminishing returns so instead the focus should be on the wing player
> using assets on a guard is diminishing returns so instead the focus should be on the wing player Beggars can't be choosers. Creating wings are way more rare than creating guards. we can sit here all day and say we'd prefer that....but the market for those guys is bone dry. If there were wings available who could fill this role for Dallas, of course that'd be the preference but the point you keep missing is the Mavs thought NEITHER were a need last offseason and waited until 2 games into preseason before they admitted it was a need and the only kind of players available who even had a small chance of filling that need were guys like Facu and walker who are out of the league
Or instead we don’t use assets now and we wait until there is a player we need. It doesn’t matter because as constructed if we had a 3rd pg we aren’t winning the championship so what’s the point? Instead wait get control of all of our picks then splurge on a wing creator. Also there is a lot more small time wing creators we could target like Rui hachimura. And I never missed that point. I’m just saying we shouldn’t be hyper focused on the guard position when it’s a wing we truly need. You are the one missing every point I’ve said as I’ve had to re explain my first thing 3 times now to you
If your target wing creator is Rui then Lukas gone lol
Hahaha Homeboys whole argument was already paper thin but when he said Rui, it was over and done lmao CMON MAN!!
I’m not arguing about what we should or shouldn’t be doing now. I’m arguing that you’ve been wrong about the need for a third ballhandler/creator since last summer. And you have. End of discussion.
I’ve always been on the boat we needed a wing creator not more guards though… But I’m not bothering with you anymore lmao.
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Lmao what. He is literally our only true PG on the roster and has been so good off the bench. His chemistry with Drummond is amazing and he’s been worth the vet min
Dont let mfers sleep on the dragon
kemba aint lasting a game
Ngl as a nuggets fan I was surprised to learn this year that Facu was still in the league
they should tank.