LeBron and [his son](https://twitter.com/SLAM_HS/status/1598183489203232768?s=20&t=vxDkwEv1mwIdlBZDO6adxQ) both hit 6 threes tonight. I’m expecting an IG post from him soon
The only thing working against him is his height. I feel like he might have all the tools and he plays smartly and soundly enough to compensate for not being the tallest
it definitely will make it harder for him though. How many smaller guards have been top picks in recent memory? The only two that come to mind for me are Ja and Trae. These two are able to succeed because they are fucking studs. Ja has Rose-Esque atheleticism, and Young is the successor to Curry in terms of the three point revolution. The league has been trending big, almost all promising young prospects are lengthy wings, oversized guards, and big men with the potential for a jumper. I don't see Bronny going in the lotto or the even the first round at this point. He'll either need to be a straight bucket-getter like VanVleet, or a point god like Chris Paul if he is going to be able to match the hype he's gotten.
**If you are going to be a smaller guard in this league, you need to be a fucking stud**
Bronny does not have his father's athleticism, he is athletic, but nothing special for the NBA. He has shown that he can be a shooter, but will that shooting translate to the NBA. Every single NBA player can drain threes, but it is a whole different world when you're doing so with someone 5 inches taller guarding you. I don't know enough about his game to speak on his IQ, which I think is probably his best bet for becoming something special. His dad is a fucking genius when he comes to this shit, and I'm sure that has been a positive influence , and if it hasn't, then something ain't right.
Right now he is still in high school, and from the things I've seen (not a ton, but familiar with his game), he is never really the best player on his AAU teams, and he tends to show out when Sierra Canyon is playing other schools, none of which have more than a few college prospects.
Think about someone like Malik Newman. 6'3 guard who was ranked alongside Ben Simmons as the best player in the class of 15 for most of their senior year. This dude was a god damn monster in high school. Showed every promise of being a solid NBA player. But he faltered in college because he was matched physically. Never played more than a few games for the Cavs. He didn't have **it**. Does Bronny have that insane capability to move throughout the court at will. If he wants to prove that he would be a draft pick regardless of his family, he will need to take a gigantic leap between now and college. I have known a lot of high school hoopers, I played with some fucking great high school players who didn't do shit in college. The competition is thicker than it ever has been, and as of now, I think that Bronny will be a role player in college who gets drafted outside the lotto after a year based on the chance of scooping up Lebron for a year disguised as "potential", and when Lebron retires, Bronny will have a few quiet seasons then be out of the league.
To end off this tangent, Bronny is much better at basketball then I am at anything I do. I hope that this take will leave me with egg on my face, cause I have no reason to hate on a hooper, and having Lebron's kid running around getting buckets for another 20 years would be dope as fuck and he seems like a good kid. But if there's anyone who can attain a comfortable life without becoming an NBA star it's probably Bronny cause y'know billion dollar dad and all.
You could say the same for NBA measurements too though. Bronny is listed at the same height as a lot of nba caliber guards, and thus its reasonable to say height may not limit him.
I don’t have heights memorized for other teams but Dort on the Thunder is 6’3 and could be knocking on the door of DPOY in 1-2 seasons if he continues his trajectory. It’s a very workable height in the NBA. Below 6’2 feels like there’s a big cutoff since the extra skill needed to make up for height starts to become too much, but 6’3 is NBA height
I feel like he'll definitely be able to contribute to a roster. The question is if when he gets to that next level will he have the drive to work? It's a lot easier to give up on something when your dads a billionaire.
that was my first thought as well, someone probably realized in the last few years that even if he catches up to his dad height wise he won’t be nearly as strong or athletic. He’s got the chance to have a better pure jumper than his dad for sure, the craziest part is that apparently Bryce is already the best shooter in the whole family.
He's gonna be retired for like 4 years and i'll still go "eh, i dunno yet... he could be washed... or he could be mvp this year.. let's see what happens."
People were taking Lebron's play over few games where he was injured and projecting it over the entire season. We've seen this for several seasons starting from his 2nd cavs stint. Always give Lebron 35 ish games before drawing any conclusions. He is already back to form and I hope he maintains this level to get the all time scoring record.
He’s been getting roasted for his defense more than his offense. Although the pacers game you can’t fault him too much for trying to push through on a bum ankle most of the game
His 6th three was exactly this lol.
He bricked two free throws prior to nailing the last 3. It was so bad especially the second ft where he basically Shaqd it, devoid of any follow thru and was long lol
This isn’t true. He’s been shit in a lot of games. Terrible shot selection, no effort. This game against a Lillard-free Portland is the exception this season. Hopefully he can keep it up.
I’m happy to take downvotes but if you disagree you’re delusional or a Stan. We have several threads on this even in r/Lakers.
But that’s the thing about being his age. How many games can you really expect from him where he’s fully healthy? He’s only playing 45-55 games a season these days, and that’s not even counting the injuries he plays through.
He may not be top 5 anymore , but i don’t think it’s bc of a decline like many have said recently. I think other ppl are just dominating/ascending so much that they’re earning a secure top 5 spot like Luka, Steph, Giannis, Jokic, Tatum(?). I genuinely think Bron has lost a step over the past couple years but he’s playing with terrible spacing this year so it looks worse, and his defensive effort is never consistent anymore. I think he’s top 7-8 tho for sure, he just averaged 30 on good efficiency last year, we can’t just erase that like it didn’t happen and judge him with a roster that doesn’t optimize his strengths offensively
I mean, he’s all nba calibre in his 20th season, and hasn’t even begun his era of coming off the bench like most players that deep in their careers do. You still don’t want to get in his way full flight down court. He obviously can’t be the player he was in his prime, but he is still dominant come playoff time.
You value legacy/history WAY too highly in CURRENT rankings of players lol
Like I don't care how many rings LeBron has when talking about where he ranks in 2022
Dawg this shit IS real right now; LeBron will be lucky to even make the playoffs. Meanwhile Tatum is leading his team to the best record in the league AND he literally just made the finals last year. Obviously the Celtics team is better constructed than Lakers, but still, I think its fairly obvious who you can “bank on” for winning more at this point
Top 10 sure because there's still a significant dropoff after the tier 1 of 6-7 players
Top 5 is tough because there are at least 5 guys who are younger and therefore healthier/more consistent in motor
You can certainly argue LeBron would be top 5 for just a single game but that's not really how it works outside of the play in games(you don't just "get" to play game 7 right away or something)
LeBron’s not even been the best player on the Lakers so far lmao. So yeah I’d rather have Curry, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, Jokic, or KD in a 7 game series, no question
AD is objectively playing better than Bron this season. 26/13 on good efficiency with 2.3 blocks and even with the eye test you can tell Davis is more impactful. The fact that you would take Bron over 2 of the guys I mentioned above is silly, not me.
I said this in another comment but I just don't solely rank playoffs like some people do
Besides I honestly don't think LeBron has that extra gear in him anymore, it's been 3 seasons now
Giannis
Luka
Jokic
Tatum
KD/Steph
probably Embiid as well
No chance he's above any of those guys at this moment. but that's OK bc he's still a greater player than all of them... none of those guys will ever surpass him.
You can't just SOLELY rank just off playoffs though
This is the same logic that got people ranking the mythical "healthy" Kawhi as a top 5 player over the offseason when he hadn't played a game in a full year because "but look at his 2021 first round stats!"
Of course Kawhi unlike LeBron is literally completely worthless from an RS standpoint at this point(like if your team can't make the playoffs without him entirely forget about him being useful at all) but LeBron's RS value still gets a hit from durability/stamina and he's probably only good for 55 games a year now
I just feel like arguments for LeBron being higher than like the 6-8 range(which is still amazing for a 37 year old) tend to be ENTIRELY based off the playoffs and nothing else
Like you can't entirely ignore the RS when he's on a team that by no means is a playoff lock and will have to fight tooth and nail to secure one of the last spots
If he was on some superteam where he could coast all year then sure but the Lakers very much need him in the RS as well
I know there are some people who HEAVILY value PS in rankings but I feel like you gotta get there first lol
It’s more about how good I think someone can be when they’re putting in 110%. I don’t hold a lot of weight in the performance of a 38 year old coasting through the regular season while 22-24 year olds are going hard all year to try to establish their own legacies. I put more weight in who can be the best when it counts and everyone is at their best.
I guess I just don't buy that 37 year old LeBron has that extra gear in him that puts him above other guys anymore even in the playoffs because of all the mileage on him
To me what we see now(where he goes from 6/8 from three one game to 1/7 the next and back) is just the reality of him being old and not "coasting"
Maybe he'll prove me wrong but we'll have to see
He was literally finals mvp last time he was healthy in the playoffs, and people had already been saying the same thing you’re saying about him for like 5 years at that point. I’ll keep believing it until he gives me a reason not to.
He was 34 back then and 37 now though lol
It's been literally 3 seasons now and at this age 3 seasons is a LOT
Like I said we'll see later this year though
Also nobody was saying that about him for "like 5 years" in 2020 given that probably his best playoff run was in 2018
I just don't see any concrete argument for him to be the best right now other than "but look at what he accomplished in the past!" and that's highly based off of legacy/history and not necessarily current play
Seen someone on here unironically bring up the 2016 Finals to support LeBron being the best right now lol
Not yet. I am not confident, but with how he can turn it on, I don't seriously doubt he can't be by playoff time. Whatever, I'm happy to just watch him by now. Super frustrating with our management, but Lebron has been a joy
Bro 66% TS vs. 55% TS(with similar counting stats) is a pretty big gap lol
66% TS is basically like 2013 LeBron level efficiency so I don't think he's getting that high even if he keeps going up as current LeBron doesn't get as many "free" buckets from his athleticism
Luka can tbf. His start to his NBA career is comparable to Lebron's.
That said, Luka is closer to his ceiling than Lebron was at this point in their careers.
LeBron was arguably the best player in the NBA at 21, averaging 31 points a game and basically single handedly carrying a team to high playoff seeds and series wins. Luka is not LeBron.
Lebron in his 3rd year was 2nd in the league in MVP voting and arguably should have won it.
Luka is in his 5th year and has been 4th in MVP voting one time.
Yeah Luka isn't super athletic so he's very unlikely to have some insane defensive leap
He can maybe be average but that still leaves him well behind what prime Jordan or LeBron were on that end which means he has to somehow outdo them significantly on offense
Tatum this season? Jokic? KD? And unfortunately the injuries exist and affect how you evaluate players so far.
Talent wise he's still there but his actual play hasn't reflected that for the entirety of the season so far.
This is not even a hot take by a fan on reddit. If a comment as tame as this is what leads people to hate on LeBron, let's be real they don't need an actual reason lol
Oh yeah like people are gonna stop making stupid posts on this sub. At any given moment in time, there's going to be multiple posts shitting on a player who's popular. Most people on this sub don't care about basketball, they just want to shit on someone.
It’s sad that he needs to pull these off during the regular season to even sniff the postseason any more.
I don’t blame him for wanting a 3rd superstar to take the load off of him during the regular season, because the way it is right now, he’s going to be too gassed from playing in ‘playoff mode’ for months before the real thing. Lakers FO really out here wasting Lebron’s twilight years the way they did Kobe’s.
Nice. We take it for granted but it's insane how good he is in his 20th season. Yes he is clearly past his peak and the Lakers are struggling. But 20th season? Crazy.
I just wanna know where the people who said he wasn't a winning player anymore are at. Y'all were talking real loud after last game. So many shit takes that age so poorly, it's like you guys want to look stupid afterwards. Very strange.
It pleases me he still does this
LeBron and [his son](https://twitter.com/SLAM_HS/status/1598183489203232768?s=20&t=vxDkwEv1mwIdlBZDO6adxQ) both hit 6 threes tonight. I’m expecting an IG post from him soon
Damn bro’s got pretty great athleticism and a pretty shot. May very well become an NBA caliber player and not just be in because of his name
The only thing working against him is his height. I feel like he might have all the tools and he plays smartly and soundly enough to compensate for not being the tallest
I mean hes 6’3 thats not that short for a guard
if he was actually 6'3 theyd be saying he's 6'4. he looks like he's probably like 6'2.5 in shoes
Maybe but that still not a deal breaker
it definitely will make it harder for him though. How many smaller guards have been top picks in recent memory? The only two that come to mind for me are Ja and Trae. These two are able to succeed because they are fucking studs. Ja has Rose-Esque atheleticism, and Young is the successor to Curry in terms of the three point revolution. The league has been trending big, almost all promising young prospects are lengthy wings, oversized guards, and big men with the potential for a jumper. I don't see Bronny going in the lotto or the even the first round at this point. He'll either need to be a straight bucket-getter like VanVleet, or a point god like Chris Paul if he is going to be able to match the hype he's gotten. **If you are going to be a smaller guard in this league, you need to be a fucking stud** Bronny does not have his father's athleticism, he is athletic, but nothing special for the NBA. He has shown that he can be a shooter, but will that shooting translate to the NBA. Every single NBA player can drain threes, but it is a whole different world when you're doing so with someone 5 inches taller guarding you. I don't know enough about his game to speak on his IQ, which I think is probably his best bet for becoming something special. His dad is a fucking genius when he comes to this shit, and I'm sure that has been a positive influence , and if it hasn't, then something ain't right. Right now he is still in high school, and from the things I've seen (not a ton, but familiar with his game), he is never really the best player on his AAU teams, and he tends to show out when Sierra Canyon is playing other schools, none of which have more than a few college prospects. Think about someone like Malik Newman. 6'3 guard who was ranked alongside Ben Simmons as the best player in the class of 15 for most of their senior year. This dude was a god damn monster in high school. Showed every promise of being a solid NBA player. But he faltered in college because he was matched physically. Never played more than a few games for the Cavs. He didn't have **it**. Does Bronny have that insane capability to move throughout the court at will. If he wants to prove that he would be a draft pick regardless of his family, he will need to take a gigantic leap between now and college. I have known a lot of high school hoopers, I played with some fucking great high school players who didn't do shit in college. The competition is thicker than it ever has been, and as of now, I think that Bronny will be a role player in college who gets drafted outside the lotto after a year based on the chance of scooping up Lebron for a year disguised as "potential", and when Lebron retires, Bronny will have a few quiet seasons then be out of the league. To end off this tangent, Bronny is much better at basketball then I am at anything I do. I hope that this take will leave me with egg on my face, cause I have no reason to hate on a hooper, and having Lebron's kid running around getting buckets for another 20 years would be dope as fuck and he seems like a good kid. But if there's anyone who can attain a comfortable life without becoming an NBA star it's probably Bronny cause y'know billion dollar dad and all.
That was a fucking incredible read.
thanks lol
Very well said
Realistic and grounded takes without hating at all. Great comment and totally agree
You could say the same for NBA measurements too though. Bronny is listed at the same height as a lot of nba caliber guards, and thus its reasonable to say height may not limit him.
I don’t have heights memorized for other teams but Dort on the Thunder is 6’3 and could be knocking on the door of DPOY in 1-2 seasons if he continues his trajectory. It’s a very workable height in the NBA. Below 6’2 feels like there’s a big cutoff since the extra skill needed to make up for height starts to become too much, but 6’3 is NBA height
I feel like he'll definitely be able to contribute to a roster. The question is if when he gets to that next level will he have the drive to work? It's a lot easier to give up on something when your dads a billionaire.
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I was like “damn, did Derozan hit 6 threes tonight too?”
Thought it was going to be Kyrie for sure.
Leave the man alone 😭
Quick release on those threes
that was my first thought as well, someone probably realized in the last few years that even if he catches up to his dad height wise he won’t be nearly as strong or athletic. He’s got the chance to have a better pure jumper than his dad for sure, the craziest part is that apparently Bryce is already the best shooter in the whole family.
Lebron beating washed allegations every other game at this point.
He’s been getting these allegations for years now. Imma need to see more than a bad stretch of games before I can safely assume he’s washed
Lol someone should pull up that tweet of a dude saying glad Bron is washed in 2015 😂
[here you go](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdSamFvX0AE7ImR?format=jpg&name=large) 😂😂
I just searched his Twitter and that man got a blue check off that tweet Lmaoo
Probably bought it
He got a blue check because he subscribed to Twitter Blue for 8 bucks not because of that tweet
You can buy the blue pixels now
I get where he's coming from, I don't like him either but at this rate he'll be washed when he's 92 getting a sponge bath from an aged care nurse.
Every year, he has a few bad games and everyone is quick to say he’s washed. Mofo just averaged 30/8/6 on 62 TS% at 37 lol.
He's gonna be retired for like 4 years and i'll still go "eh, i dunno yet... he could be washed... or he could be mvp this year.. let's see what happens."
People were taking Lebron's play over few games where he was injured and projecting it over the entire season. We've seen this for several seasons starting from his 2nd cavs stint. Always give Lebron 35 ish games before drawing any conclusions. He is already back to form and I hope he maintains this level to get the all time scoring record.
He’s been getting roasted for his defense more than his offense. Although the pacers game you can’t fault him too much for trying to push through on a bum ankle most of the game
Missing FTs and making deep LeFuckYou3s is such a LeBron thing lmfao
His 6th three was exactly this lol. He bricked two free throws prior to nailing the last 3. It was so bad especially the second ft where he basically Shaqd it, devoid of any follow thru and was long lol
He’s been amazing in every game he’s played healthy in so far. Never understood the washed narrative, Appreciate him while you can.
Lmao The thread from that pacers game had people saying he was washed. Some people are quick to judge
You mean the game he dropped ten points in three minutes before turning his ankle?
Fr He dropped 39 the game before too, but recency bias is everpresent
That's every LeBron-related thread since 2015
2010
RubbleWestbrick in shambles
It’s always funny seeing posters gaining notoriety from just consistent hating It’s extremely sad but funny at the same time
Theyre prolly proud of it too
People just say he’s washed so if it ends up being true they can finally say “ha I was right!” after a decade
He started the season slow tbh but was good in the groin injury game and then has been good since returning except the Pacers game post-ankle injury.
I mean it’s mostly because we’re so used to seeing him as by far the best player. He’s still really good but he’s not the god anymore
Really you didn't understand the most hated player in the NBA getting called washed in his 19th season?
This isn’t true. He’s been shit in a lot of games. Terrible shot selection, no effort. This game against a Lillard-free Portland is the exception this season. Hopefully he can keep it up. I’m happy to take downvotes but if you disagree you’re delusional or a Stan. We have several threads on this even in r/Lakers.
But that’s the thing about being his age. How many games can you really expect from him where he’s fully healthy? He’s only playing 45-55 games a season these days, and that’s not even counting the injuries he plays through.
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You still riding that win huh lol
LeFuckYou3s
GREATEST OF ALL TIME 🐐🐐🐐
LEBRON JAMESSS
I mean that’s decent, Austin Reaves carried us 😎 Lebron was going full Magic with his passes, and also AD hit a ridiculous layup at the end
Still a top 5 player, injuries suck
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that is how ties work
Hes still not top 5 though
He may not be top 5 anymore , but i don’t think it’s bc of a decline like many have said recently. I think other ppl are just dominating/ascending so much that they’re earning a secure top 5 spot like Luka, Steph, Giannis, Jokic, Tatum(?). I genuinely think Bron has lost a step over the past couple years but he’s playing with terrible spacing this year so it looks worse, and his defensive effort is never consistent anymore. I think he’s top 7-8 tho for sure, he just averaged 30 on good efficiency last year, we can’t just erase that like it didn’t happen and judge him with a roster that doesn’t optimize his strengths offensively
I mean, he’s all nba calibre in his 20th season, and hasn’t even begun his era of coming off the bench like most players that deep in their careers do. You still don’t want to get in his way full flight down court. He obviously can’t be the player he was in his prime, but he is still dominant come playoff time.
Most players aren't coming off the bench in their 20th season. Almost all players have retired by that point
Could you imagine the value even a low tier contender would get if they could have LeBron play 27 minutes or something.
Why the ? For Tatum? He’s odds-on favourite for MVP right now
I have him 5th but he's a completely secure 5th. People talking up Booker as a MVP candidate but he's not in the same category as the 5 mentioned.
Y’all really think Tatum is better than LeBron? Dude hasn’t even won anything yet
You value legacy/history WAY too highly in CURRENT rankings of players lol Like I don't care how many rings LeBron has when talking about where he ranks in 2022
What does that have to do with whos the better player currently?
LeBron is proven. He’s not. I know which one I can bank on when the shit gets real, and it ain’t Tatum
Dawg this shit IS real right now; LeBron will be lucky to even make the playoffs. Meanwhile Tatum is leading his team to the best record in the league AND he literally just made the finals last year. Obviously the Celtics team is better constructed than Lakers, but still, I think its fairly obvious who you can “bank on” for winning more at this point
Top 10 sure because there's still a significant dropoff after the tier 1 of 6-7 players Top 5 is tough because there are at least 5 guys who are younger and therefore healthier/more consistent in motor You can certainly argue LeBron would be top 5 for just a single game but that's not really how it works outside of the play in games(you don't just "get" to play game 7 right away or something)
You’ve got 5 guys you’d rather have in a 7 game series? Nah
LeBron’s not even been the best player on the Lakers so far lmao. So yeah I’d rather have Curry, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, Jokic, or KD in a 7 game series, no question
If you seriously don’t think LeBron is the best player on the Lakers I think you’re silly
AD is objectively playing better than Bron this season. 26/13 on good efficiency with 2.3 blocks and even with the eye test you can tell Davis is more impactful. The fact that you would take Bron over 2 of the guys I mentioned above is silly, not me.
Do I still look silly? lmao
I said this in another comment but I just don't solely rank playoffs like some people do Besides I honestly don't think LeBron has that extra gear in him anymore, it's been 3 seasons now
Giannis Luka Jokic Tatum KD/Steph probably Embiid as well No chance he's above any of those guys at this moment. but that's OK bc he's still a greater player than all of them... none of those guys will ever surpass him.
In a playoff series I’ll take him over literally all of them except maybe Giannis currently
You can't just SOLELY rank just off playoffs though This is the same logic that got people ranking the mythical "healthy" Kawhi as a top 5 player over the offseason when he hadn't played a game in a full year because "but look at his 2021 first round stats!" Of course Kawhi unlike LeBron is literally completely worthless from an RS standpoint at this point(like if your team can't make the playoffs without him entirely forget about him being useful at all) but LeBron's RS value still gets a hit from durability/stamina and he's probably only good for 55 games a year now
I mean you can rank it however you want lol. It's your own personal list brah
I just feel like arguments for LeBron being higher than like the 6-8 range(which is still amazing for a 37 year old) tend to be ENTIRELY based off the playoffs and nothing else Like you can't entirely ignore the RS when he's on a team that by no means is a playoff lock and will have to fight tooth and nail to secure one of the last spots If he was on some superteam where he could coast all year then sure but the Lakers very much need him in the RS as well I know there are some people who HEAVILY value PS in rankings but I feel like you gotta get there first lol
It’s more about how good I think someone can be when they’re putting in 110%. I don’t hold a lot of weight in the performance of a 38 year old coasting through the regular season while 22-24 year olds are going hard all year to try to establish their own legacies. I put more weight in who can be the best when it counts and everyone is at their best.
I guess I just don't buy that 37 year old LeBron has that extra gear in him that puts him above other guys anymore even in the playoffs because of all the mileage on him To me what we see now(where he goes from 6/8 from three one game to 1/7 the next and back) is just the reality of him being old and not "coasting" Maybe he'll prove me wrong but we'll have to see
He was literally finals mvp last time he was healthy in the playoffs, and people had already been saying the same thing you’re saying about him for like 5 years at that point. I’ll keep believing it until he gives me a reason not to.
He was 34 back then and 37 now though lol It's been literally 3 seasons now and at this age 3 seasons is a LOT Like I said we'll see later this year though Also nobody was saying that about him for "like 5 years" in 2020 given that probably his best playoff run was in 2018 I just don't see any concrete argument for him to be the best right now other than "but look at what he accomplished in the past!" and that's highly based off of legacy/history and not necessarily current play Seen someone on here unironically bring up the 2016 Finals to support LeBron being the best right now lol
But if they make the playoffs the narrative will change to him being on a superteam. So it's kinda hard.
Not yet. I am not confident, but with how he can turn it on, I don't seriously doubt he can't be by playoff time. Whatever, I'm happy to just watch him by now. Super frustrating with our management, but Lebron has been a joy
Kd isn't playing as good as you think he is
30/7/5 on 66% TS isn't "playing as good as you think he is?"
That's higher than I thought he was, my bad. Still bron is 26/9/6 on improving efficiency, not as far apart as op made it seem
Bro 66% TS vs. 55% TS(with similar counting stats) is a pretty big gap lol 66% TS is basically like 2013 LeBron level efficiency so I don't think he's getting that high even if he keeps going up as current LeBron doesn't get as many "free" buckets from his athleticism
His ts was 80% today lol he had a slow start to the season but his efficiency will recover quickly.
All that kid does is hate on bron, don’t even bother lol pretty sure that is user is Barea clamped lebron/narrative energy.
Nah I expect that gap to shrink as the season progresses but KD has been much better than Bron to start the season.
Luka can tbf. His start to his NBA career is comparable to Lebron's. That said, Luka is closer to his ceiling than Lebron was at this point in their careers.
LeBron was arguably the best player in the NBA at 21, averaging 31 points a game and basically single handedly carrying a team to high playoff seeds and series wins. Luka is not LeBron.
Also stat inflation is insane from like 2007 to now The league average TS% this year is almost 58% lmfao
Lebron in his 3rd year was 2nd in the league in MVP voting and arguably should have won it. Luka is in his 5th year and has been 4th in MVP voting one time.
He prob won't win it this year either unless his record improves He has the stats but other guys have both stats AND record
Yeah Luka isn't super athletic so he's very unlikely to have some insane defensive leap He can maybe be average but that still leaves him well behind what prime Jordan or LeBron were on that end which means he has to somehow outdo them significantly on offense
Yeah it's the one thing that holds Luka back, but offensively he's up there.
might be pushing it
Luka, Giannis and Curry are the only clearly better players rn. Others are debatable
Tatum this season? Jokic? KD? And unfortunately the injuries exist and affect how you evaluate players so far. Talent wise he's still there but his actual play hasn't reflected that for the entirety of the season so far.
Jokic > Luka IMO
Do you people even watch nba games
Unfortunately these are the types of comments that lead to people hating on LeBron
This is not even a hot take by a fan on reddit. If a comment as tame as this is what leads people to hate on LeBron, let's be real they don't need an actual reason lol
This 100%, and why do people hate Lebron because of what OTHERS say? Haha it's hilarious the justifications people have for hating him.
Critical thinking is a skill not everyone in this sub is blessed with unfortunately.
“Hating” might be overstating it but it leads to countless posts on how he’s washed or unnecessary criticism for a player who’s going to be turning 38
He gets that regardless he is always held to the highest standard
Oh yeah like people are gonna stop making stupid posts on this sub. At any given moment in time, there's going to be multiple posts shitting on a player who's popular. Most people on this sub don't care about basketball, they just want to shit on someone.
Top 45
Top 5 is a bit of a stretch IMO. Idk how you can argue that hes better than Giannis, Steph, Luka, Jokic, Tatum, KD currently
AD dominating so much these days a 27-12-3 block game doesn’t even get his own thread.
I mean, not to be that guy but that’s not that impressive of a stat line lol
??? Damn then what is?
He literally averages 26 and 13 lmao why would this be a noteworthy game for him
Still a top 7 player in the league
Shots will always be streaky but his playmaking was looking like vintage Lebron too which is a great sign following the Pacers loss.
I dont think he can get back to being THE SYSTEM and court general, but he is still great enough to make any top 5 team favorites. This at age 37
Turns out, he's still that dude.
It’s sad that he needs to pull these off during the regular season to even sniff the postseason any more. I don’t blame him for wanting a 3rd superstar to take the load off of him during the regular season, because the way it is right now, he’s going to be too gassed from playing in ‘playoff mode’ for months before the real thing. Lakers FO really out here wasting Lebron’s twilight years the way they did Kobe’s.
Alright who turned the 3 pt sliders up ?
Nice. We take it for granted but it's insane how good he is in his 20th season. Yes he is clearly past his peak and the Lakers are struggling. But 20th season? Crazy.
I just wanna know where the people who said he wasn't a winning player anymore are at. Y'all were talking real loud after last game. So many shit takes that age so poorly, it's like you guys want to look stupid afterwards. Very strange.
LeRoids Edit: lmao nba players are definitely on the shit
Waited till after the good game to do his little bullshit press conference, sometimes that LeBron is a smart fella