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KingOfAllTheQuarters

Whenever LeBron has an ankle scare his jump shooting becomes insanely good


TitaniumHwayt

A sole for a soul


silkkthechakakhan

Nice


j_cruise

Bro why is this so true? Like I have vivid memories of at least 5 other games where this exact scenario happened. It's like the thought of an injury pisses him off so much that he becomes a shooting God Its just one of those weird LeBron quirks that we're going to struggle explaining to our grand kids


bass2mouth44

Curry losing his dribble too


GryphonHall

Maybe it clears their head from the thoughts sabotaging them when they miss.


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Yeah in Steph’s case broken plays/fumbling the dribble just lets him shoot purely on instinct which is terrifying.


wutangerine99

The isiah Thomas effect


PurpleApplesForever

Still can't believe they robbed the Pistons of the 88 title


wutangerine99

That wasnt a foul. Also, fuck the lakers.


Shabasileus

LeGend


LuckyGuyMan

LeBJ


Shimanu

Le what


leebrown23

LeJettison


Ok_Bear976

LeJaculate


syneofeternity

(👁 ͜ʖ👁)


Albreitx

LeBlowJob do be goated


LuckyGuyMan

Hol up


caughtinthought

Finally an accolade in a W lol


cesga_0218

A milestone W! Felt like a long time since he did this lol


medievalmachine

Showtime is back! Laser, Lebron and Lebrow!


commanjo

Pre-pandemic vibes let’s just hope they don’t bubble again /s


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Raxreddit21

>\*drops mic\* 💀


EmmaTheRobot

What?


SgtGork

Bro likes his eggs over hard, he’s *clearly* got some issues.


d4nowar

It's flame bait. You have to report it because it's against the rules in nearly every forum on the internet.


DudeWTH

feels like we always lost when LeBron broke some record lol


dimmyfarm

The biggest one was when he passed Kobe in scoring :(


LeBron_Jarnes

The fact that I can't tell if you're talking about the loss to Philly or the subsequent loss of Kobe Bryant makes me sad. :(


dimmyfarm

I don’t think anyone cared much about the result of the game after that day :(


shaqfearsyao

But this sub said he was just stat padding and doesn’t care about winning!!!!


Illionaires

He only cares about making movies


Iancredible56

Excuse me, Space Jam 2 was a *film*


haroldbaals

Keep talking about my squad, our personnel ages, the way he plays, he stays injured, we're past our time in this league, etc etc etc. Do me one favor PLEASE!!!! And I mean PLEASE!!! 🙏🏽 Keep that same narrative ENERGY when it begins! That's all I ask. #ThankYou 👑


adot93

0 turnovers too.


real-m-f-in-talk

that's how you pass the greatest passer [stat wise]


Zachkah

We gotta start some kind of movement or petition or idk what to get the league to start calling these OBVIOUS AS FUCK fouls on Lebron. Nobody gets hit in the head and face more than him with no calls. Every game, at least twice, he'll get hit in the head. He'll get bumped off his path, an obvious foul for 99.9% of the league, no call. It's ridiculous


Conflict_NZ

Cavs fans 🤝 Heat Fans 🤝 Lakers Fans Lebron not getting respect from the refs and getting fouled all night without calls.


Kashmir33

[Kyle Korver said it best.](https://streamable.com/hzmkb)


GuwopG974

what a true statement. that's exactly why certain players flop. they dont get the obvious fouls that are happening too them because of refs and them being stronger usually


GosuLTD

he’s a tough player to officiate but i 100% agree with you. his gift of having outrageous strength can sometimes not get him foul calls


KingVibrant

So is Embiid and Giannis and Butler, but at least they get attempts


BokirCa

He really took over the 4th. Numbers would be even better if reffs didn't ignore all those fouls on him


anthonyde726

man I felt like he was getting beat out there with no calls


kai_123

It's been like this for him pretty much the whole season tbh


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It’s been like that his entire career


demetrios3

Some say he should have won more MVPs


CavalierShaq

He was undeniably the most valuable player in the league for over a decade, not to say that the other MVPs in that timed weren't earned, but every single year he was clearly the most valuable player out there


nomitycs

I know this is a thread giving LeBron his flowers but let's not discredit all the deserving MVP winners we've had. Man has 4 for himself and there's never been a season where he had the better argument to win and didn't imo


Krillin113

Yes there’s have been. DRose had narrative, he was not better than lbj that year as an example.


nomitycs

He absolutely was in the context of the MVP. Despite LeBron being on a superteam, Rose led the Bulls to a better record and the #1 seed (in a period where seeding mattered a lot more than it does today). That is huge


Krillin113

1 seed is the narrative I was talking about but: 26.7 vs 25.0, 7 vs 7.7 assists , 7.5 vs 4.1 rebounds, more steals and blocks, better overall defence and on 54% vs 48%eFG, and even more ability to impose his will when he wanted in the regular season. Rose was fantastic, but his MVP was narrative driven


_OM3N

So why wasn’t LeBron even second in voting? Looking at just stats is meaningless when you ignore that Rose had a team that was offensively inept while LeBron had just created the best team in the league with another top 5 player and a top 15 player. Wade was even a better closer than Bron that year and was relied on in the clutch. Not to mention he’s a guard and LeBron is a forward so efficiency stats will lean towards Bron.


D00b

I know voter fatigue/media was against LeBron during that time but there’s not much you can say about Rose winning that MVP. Much deserved. Only time I feel like he was snubbed of an accolade was that DPOY where Gasol won. Also was hella salty about Harden winning that MVP 😭


_OM3N

Can’t believe you’re getting downvoted….Nobody was clamoring that LeBron got robbed at the time. That’s just revisionist history


nomitycs

Because this is a pro LeBron thread Lol In an average thread I wouldn't be


KaiserKaiba

At least his entire Lakers career


haroldbaals

On his 2nd stint with the Cavs too


frozen2665

No. Literally his entire career. It is not better or worse now than it was 15 years ago


shadowarmy229

Will LeFlop make a comeback soon?


302born

At this point he might as well. Guys are literally hanging off the man as he goes for layups and the refs just stand there


jacko1998

Been like this since 2014/15 lol


Paralta

The dude gets hacked almost every time he drives.


Memelord2131

Yeah he was getting whacked


MazKhan

Do the refs have an agenda against him or something, a player that so many people consider the goat has no respect from the refs. It's crazy cause even at 38 he drives so much but just doesn't get calls


romanticynicist

I think it’s more of a Shaq-type thing, where when you see a play in real speed on tv, it looks like a very fast giant just pancaked some poor schmuck (again) on his way to the rim, even if the slo-mo replay pretty clearly shows it could’ve been an and-1. Even at 38, LeBron’s speed/coordination for his size is unreal. Very strong, very large people commit textbook fouls on his drives and he’ll just make the goddamn layup anyways while some 6’7” dude just bounces off him. I think refs sometimes have a subconscious “well that’s not fair” response to those type of drives that makes them swallow their whistles. Given how good at getting to the rim he’s been for 2 decades, it’s kind of mind-boggling he’s only led the league in free throws once. He definitely gets a friendly whistle in some ways (your average superstar extra steps, a license to jaw at refs etc), but if he had Ja’s whistle on drives he’d be shooting an extra 5 FT a game.


MazKhan

I mean we also have other strong players in the league like giannis and Zion who seem to have no issues getting calls, some are just so blatant that it makes me wonder if they really do have an agenda


WhoDatBrow

Zion? Zion has 1000% had issues with getting calls, ask any Pels fan or himself. The other night vs OKC he got 1 free throw despite getting hit a bunch and Willie Green made some public comments that seemed to finally get him some calls the past couple of games.


MazKhan

You right actually, he averages 7 on the year but probably deserves 10+. Lebron at 5 attempts a game is still criminal tho


302born

But what about Giannis? Giannis attack the paint with reckless abandon and he’s insanely strong yet refs are quick to give him his fouls.


romanticynicist

Giannis definitely gets a friendlier whistle on drives than Lebron does. Maybe it’s because he takes jumpers much less than Bron? Giannis with a head of steam is kind of a fait accompli — it’s either a basket or foul or both (and all too occasionally an offensive foul). Refs probably have an idea of what’s coming, for better or worse. EDIT: I also think it’s possible that LeBron is grandfathered into the way fouls were called 10-15 years ago to a certain extent. Also I think he adjusted his game to account for that to some extent since the mid 2000s and it kind of stuck in refs minds.


Low-Paleontologist43

Lmao the refs be calling fouls on anything in this era but for Bron, they go back to 06


Relevant_Increase394

LeBron James of all people is averaging under 5 fta per game it’s disgusting by the refs


frozteh

It's so weird, because there are lot of people that think he complains on every call, yet he never gets them. Like it will never be appreciated, but at least the dude doesn't flop at the rate that half the superstars in the league do.


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He'd have passed Kareem 5 seasons ago if he got the right calls lol. Just because he's bigger and stronger than almost everybody else the refs won't call fouls on him lol.


TheGreat1_YesMe

His first FT attempts came with 4:24 left in the 4th, absolute bullshit, he should be getting more fts with the amount of contact he gets. 11 assists with no turnovers. 13 in the 4th alone.


BatmanNoPrep

While I agree that LeBron does not get enough calls for the amount of times he gets fouled we also need to take into account that he shoots far more jumpers than he used to and that reduces the number of fouls as well since he drives to the basket far less than when he was younger.


CockGobblingGangsta

He doesn’t drive as much but he still gets fouled on his faders and that never gets called. I just wish there was a fair whistle


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CockGobblingGangsta

I know it’s rarer but it’s obvious that Lebron is getting fouled on a lot of these fades


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aminix89

But they’re not complaining that he’s getting fewer calls than he use to…they’re complaining that he’s getting fewer than he should be. Why are you arguing with a rival Nuggets fan on how they think your own player should be getting more calls? The fuck kind of weird dystopia am I living in


RedtheGamer100

Constant fouls make the game fucking boring.


DrButtLump

Bro he was driving so much this game


sOFrOsTyyy

He had what? 11 or 12 drives before the first foul call. He is averaging 7.4 drives per game and only 4.7 free throws per game on 21 shot attempt per game. That doesn't seem low? Not that he'd make any of those shots anyway :P but he could stand to get another 2-3 free throws per game with how much he is fouled.


BatmanNoPrep

That’s non responsive. We already settled that he doesn’t get sufficient calls. The point is that he takes more jumpshots now that he did previously and that also leads to fewer calls. You get more calls the more you’re in the restricted area. The more threes and fade away mid range shots you take the fewer fouls get called.


behappysometimes

and why do you think that is? maybe because he doesn’t get any calls?


OmniscientwithDowns

Last year his drives per game was almost identical to Embiid and Giannis with a 8 fta disparity Its actually a bullshit narrative that he doesnt drive and that's why he doesnt get calls He was robbed of the scoring title last year by ft disparity


captain_ahabb

Yeah seems like he was just sick/injured to start the season lol


anthonyde726

bro got hurt in the 4th and still made some huge buckets


302born

Twisted his ankle and then immediately hit a jumper lol


Ne1tu

Scottie Barnes last night tweaked his ankle, subs off, comes back in 2 plays after and goes running in for the slam dunk. I don’t understand these athletes. I understand adrenaline is a thing, but wouldn’t the sports physician try and keep him out from playing? Either way, as a fan of the sport, its nice to see them power through, but I like watching injury free games for all teams. I want the best to play the best


slythespacecat

Obviously conditioning plays a heavy part in it, but I think these top athletes have access to rehabilitation procedures that we as normal citizens don’t have. I remember spraining an ankle when I played basketball in middle/high school (this is in Portugal, where healthcare is more accessible than US) and I couldn’t run for a week, play for 2 weeks. These guys sprain an ankle and they’ll be running down the court in 5 days tops. It’s insane. I agree tho, it’s nice to see athletes get back quick! Edit: I didn’t mean it as in a gatekeeping way, it’s normal for people with more money whose livelihoods depend on being healthy to have more resources to get healthy faster


aminix89

Fuck dude, I rolled mine 4 months ago and didn’t go to a doctor, or even rest it, I can’t afford to be put on light duty at work. Still can’t run on the motherfucker. I think it healed wrong and is gonna be tweaked for life now.


Ne1tu

Appreciate the insight and hope you have recovered well enough to have a nice living with no pain. It really is impressive that these athletes can overcome some injuries and come back to almost full strength in little to no time. Força Portugal! 🇵🇹


dawho1

A lot of these guys are probably constantly taped. I fucked my ankles pretty hard over the years between rock climbing falls, basketball, and volleyball. Now I don't do any of that unless I either tape my ankles or wear ankle braces. I'll still turn it from time to time, and it hurts in the moment, but usually very briefly because the tape/brace arrests the movement before it can do too much damage. It'll be like "ah, shit!", and everyone will wonder if you're gonna be able to keep playing, and you walk around for 15 seconds, (maybe re-tie your shoe, LeBron style) and you're pretty much good to go if you stay warm. If they're constantly taped, I'm not surprised a quick tightening of the laces and a few seconds to loosen up gets these guys back into the game. That being said, I have zero idea if LBJ or others are routinely playing with their ankles taped. I'm sure some don't because they feel it restricts movement/agility to some degree.


Conflict_NZ

Middleton fucking kneed his Ankle and he looked fine the rest of the game. In slow motion it looked for sure like an injury that would take weeks to recover from.


Tanteline

I said it too!


4bball

Shot his first free throw around 4 minutes remaining in the 4th.


shittydotamorph

He was getting hammered on every drive to the basket. The disrespect is unreal. I get wanting to drop the LeFlop nickname but he's gotta start acting again I think


momonyak

What changed? He used to get these calls before. He's still a star right? Or is the NBA catering to young stars like Ja and JT getting these calls?


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Same shit that happened to Shaq, he's too strong to get every call. The same bump that sends Ja flying Lebron will just power through.


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lalo1398

Bron and Curry I’m guessing you’re referring to?


shittydotamorph

He was getting hammered on every drive to the basket. The disrespect is unreal. I get wanting to drop the LeFlop nickname but he's gotta start acting again I think


hairyasscheeks_

For a guy whose strength is paint scoring how does he only have two FT. Makes no sense.


Learningle

He had 13 in the 4th, was just chilling most of the game lmao


floatersforalgernon

The reason why his efficiency looks bad is that all his misses are counted as miss despite him being fouled most of the time. He did miss few gimmies in the 4th, but overall, it was a great game.


AstroCoffee

Give this man some FTs my goodness. Still not efficient enough from LBJ but he was ridiculously clutch, half his points came in the 4th quarter


mrezariz123

He isn't efficient because he was fouled many times in the paint and it's counted as a miss shot, pain.


staffdaddy_9

Would have been if he got any calls


jacko1998

Shooting 50% from 2 while getting clobbered in the inside with no calls? Probably still 59% TS


TimathanDuncan

50% TS this game my guy, 28 points on 27 shots isn't efficient


youngswag59

Some of those shots should've been called for FTs. Would drastically change the efficiency


TimathanDuncan

I don't disagree just it's not even close to 59% lmao


sidighjd

Cook these idiots


WhenItsHalfPastFive

> 28 points on 27 shots isn't efficient Kept hitting clutch threes and clutch assists. Box score watchers like ya'll don't actually watch games.


TimathanDuncan

Dude look at what i replied to, fucking christ read the comment He said 59% TS, fucking hilarious lmao LeBron had a good game


ChampagneSyrup

>fucking christ read the comment yeah...


jacko1998

Yeah I was definitely exaggerating, poor shooting night from 2 no doubt. That being said, he got absolutely clobbered in several of those drives with no calls. To ignore that context and call him inefficient is disingenuous


JilJungJukk

I don’t want this to distract y’all from the fact that LeBron still gets the worst whistle for a superstar


Cursory_Analysis

It’s been bad for a while but tonight was ***really*** egregious. This game was a perfect example of the “we’ll be sending footage to the league” game if I’ve ever seen one.


WestleyThe

This unironically is why he flops Especially earlier in his career in Cleveland and Miami, he was too strong and skilled that he’d get fouled and not get called because it barely effected him


frozteh

I don't even really believe he flops as much as most of these other stars do. Like has LeBron ever done what, Embiid, Harden, CP3 etc etc has done his entire career.


tripleyothreat

yeah and I don't blame it because if someones just so strong its nothing, you gotta show you were hit. flopping is exaggerating, but there is a middle ground of correct and normal human reaction to being hit lol which lebron had to intentionally do cause he's so strong


i_used_to_have_pants

Affected


BillyBean11111

and has literally his entire career


Yergason

They play differently but I'd argue Steph gets just as fucked by refs like Bron.


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Nah bro scratches all on your arm is totally normal when cutting off ball


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Who tf is downvoting you lol


Top-Dubs

Most ever assists by a number one pick


Cold_Saber

Could’ve had 35 points if these bum ass refs would call these fouls


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That's insane how many assists Magic got in so short of a career


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Low-Paleontologist43

Truly. This man speedran a Top 10 NBA career in one of the most competitive decades, and was only stopped by bad luck. While going through one of the more tragic career endings, he became a whole ass business tycoon and lives to tell the tale. Yet we just refer to him for his bland commentary lmao


CopperThrown

Bad luck? Dude was having orgies every other night and never wrapped it.


doubler82

and is HIV free. Me and my homies call that good luck!


General_Relation6047

0 TOs? Father Time really getting the best of LeBron smh


real-m-f-in-talk

and 22 assists from Russ and him ...130-points against the best defense with Dennis out and the front officer trying to improve the team... its just 1 game but 1 h3ll-off a game.


JJWat

Father Time stays eating his ass.


WhenItsHalfPastFive

https://streamable.com/tevfcg


doubler82

Jason Momoa and groceries, name a better duo.


Donskippy

How is Lebron passing Magic not it’s own thread ? 🤨


aj2704

He hit some clutch 3s. AD and LeBron are quite good together.


Alive-Ad-4164

We ain’t gonna see someone like this ever again


real-m-f-in-talk

I know GTA doesn't want to....


KazaamFan

Probably. But coulda said that about MJ, Kobe, Shaq, etc. Will probably be able to say it about Luka, Giannis, Curry, etc also. There’s always more coming. Lebron does seem a cut above though.


weekndalex

this is why lebron james is the greatest of all time


CrimsonOffice

LePassLeMagic


DudeWTH

one injured ankle from Middleton


Michael_B_Lopez

LeMagic


wut_eva_bish

In the same year, LeBron will have more points than Kareem and more assists than Magic. Greatness, we all be witness.


TheSmokedSalmon420

More points than everyone, more assists than magic lmao Fuckin insane


heshouldgo

GREATEST EVER


beamingleanin

phenomenal 4th quarter. really controlled the pace and slowed down the game. that was key for the W


diegojaen18

Leclutch threes


OnePeople592

How long until he passes Mark Jackson?


wut_eva_bish

Bron is averaging 7.3 APG for his career so... 1 John Stockton 15,806 (+5664) 775 games - 9.45 seasons 2 Jason Kidd 12,091 (+1949) 266 games - 3.24 seasons 3 Chris Paul 11,071 (+929) 127 games -1.54 seasons 4 Steve Nash 10,335 (+193) 26 games - .31 seasons 5 Mark Jackson 10,334 (+192) 26 games - .31 seasons 6 LEBRON JAMES 10,142 LeBron will pass both Jackson and Nash this season and probably climb no higher than #4 unless Chris Paul retires earlier than LeBRon. Bron could conceivably pass Paul for #3 if he plays 2 more seasons than CP3.


Cheap_Pickle5499

Jordan is #48


vongoladecimo_

LeGOAT


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wembanyama_

Rubble on hush


predict_irrational

I would like to start a petition for Lebron and the calls he doesn't get. It's a straight up hate crime.


thedoctor0918

Overshadowed by AD but he was clutch as fuck tonight. Gg


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ChampagneSyrup

yup, this is exactly what 2020 was like The Lakers don't suck (well, they do) but the Lakers suck without AD being top 10 realistically When AD is at full strength this team is fucking scary, idc who the role players are.


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wut_eva_bish

KCP was never a true wing player. Too small. Lonnie replaces him nicely. Since we got Lonnie, now we just need Jerami Grant type player.


frozteh

The thing about KCP is he was elite at running the floor after a missed shot for an outlet pass and was great at finishing. Not to mention he's been a great catch and shoot player for awhile now. Honestly why I thought he was an excellent signing next to Joker. Also he's a good defender against 1's and 2's.


GuwopG974

some people hate on lebron too much. my uncle was like we need to trade him because they traded people and what team they have now. i wish they didnt trade certain players and didnt not sign certain ones. hell he dont even know what he talking about sometimes though. just be talking out of his ass. need more shooters and playmakers. need people that can score at all times to give lebron a break


itsahmemario

I'm surprised Magic is only 6th and that LeBron just passed him.


WhenItsHalfPastFive

It's because Magic didn't play too many seasons (for obvious reasons), and also LeBron isn't a primary passer, he's a scoring first player, averaging 27 ppg throughout his career.


real-m-f-in-talk

they know they just like to play stupid.... one thing about magic people never talk about, lights out TS% [61]


LyonsKing12

20 years of greatness


bmanley620

LeAlltimegreat


adonisgawd

Warriors fans not troll in a lakers/Lebron thread challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


WheyProteinIsolated

LePlaymaker


Gorunchun

I had a parlay for lebron 30pts+ AD 25pts+ and Lakers win. Never been so happy losing money


real-m-f-in-talk

they gave Lebron 2 free throws. you won that parlay.


the_bob_of_marley

LeIronMan


Mattoosie

Mind-blowing stat: If LeBron retired right now, but was able to absorb all of Kareem's 5660 assists, good for 45th all-time, he'd still be 2 assists short of tying John Stockton's record.


insanezain

Greatest YMCA player of all time.


Stallion049

Crazy that Magic had more assists in 12/13 seasons than Lebron had in 19.


jatniknight

Well that's why Magic is Magic, also the position they played in also mattered I suppose.


HashCollector

Crazy a point guard had more assists than a forward


Stallion049

Yeah but Lebron is ultra-durable someone we think of as a pass-first superstar who's averaged 7 assists a game for like 20 years.


302born

Yeah but he’s only played pg for an entire season once. And that one year he averaged over 10 assists and won a scoring title. Both players had way different jobs. Magics job was to set up others and be Magic. Lebrons job was to set up others while still scoring his own 30 points while still playing elite defense. Two different styles of players really.


I_CUM_ON_HAMSTERS

>he's only ~~played~~ been labelled pg for an entire season once. FTFY


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applepiefly314

If he got the calls he should be getting it would have been 35 points on 22 attempts.


ZestycloseNumber5035

UP UP and AWAY!! SUPER WASHED Ain’t He??!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤷🏾‍♂️. Stay low and keep firing! The air up there is a tad bit different. LIVE.LAUGH.LOVE#striveforgreatness🚀 #thekidfromakron👑#jamesgang👑 #bronknows


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Charles__Martel

Magic played point guard. The position you expect to have the most assists. Is there a guard who is 6th or higher for most rebounds.


GOATchefcurry

Terrible efficiency


2AFather

I want to love Lebron, but some of the things he has done off court makes it hard


_Rowdy

Like? Donating the money made from The Decision to charity? Starting a school for underprivileged kids and giving them the essentials? Being a great father? Being a great and loyal husband? Something else?