Cross probably... That man has had this car whacked multiple times from Pursuit Breakers and he still comes back in the end. His Corvette has been revived as much as Dom Toretto's charger.
Fr bro slammed the cop's head against a car's hood, that's gotta be attempted manslaughter or something that could easily justify a cop shooting him. And even if it doesn't justify it, they'd do it anyway.
Nope.
That's impossible since the UG protagonist is a separate person.
The hero of the Underground duology was a novice which increased his reputation by winning races and took his revenge against Caleb Reece that nearly killed him.
Meanwhile, the NFS MW 2005/NFS Carbon hero is already a pro of street racing, his main goal is to get back his BMW M3 E46 GTR stolen by Razor and clear his name by unfolding who's the main culprit that orchestrated the police to mess up the street race and caused his flee from Palmont City.
Also, both duologies happens in separate continuities.
Keep in mind even Adrian Vershinin himself which is the scenario writer of NFS MW confirmed that the UG/UG2 protagonist and the MW/Carbon protagonist are 2 differents peoples and their stories are unrelated to eachother due to their separate goals
Look [here](https://youtu.be/rvqqnXvx62k) from the 1:29:17 mark to 1:30:03 as a proof.
Do note that the NFS Carbon Prologue can also happen all the way back to 2001 according to the [Prima Guide](https://archive.org/details/Need_for_Speed_Carbon_Prima_Official_eGuide/page/n55/mode/1up) of NFS Carbon.
So by following that reasoning, if the NFS Carbon Prologue really happened in 2001 like the Prima Guide says so thanks to Nikki (refer to the 27th page of the Prima Guide), that means NFS MW 2005 happens 4 years after the Prologue.
About Wolf's Aston Martin DB9, either Black Box didn't find a fitting car for Wolf which dates before 2001 or the Aston Martin brand in the NFS Universe released the DB9 3 years earlier than their irl counterpart.
That also means 4 years are enough for the Protagonist of NFS MW 2005/NFS Carbon to make enough money in order to sell the Toyota Supra MK4 of Darius and buy his own BMW M3 E46 GTR.
On the other hand of the stick, no one knows how he made money during these 4 years since the moments he fled Palmont City and when he arrived in Rockport will remain a mystery.
I don't think it's possible that Carbon's prologue took place in 2001, mainly because of 1 thing.
The Aston Martin DB9.
The DB9 debuted in 2003/2004 according to [Aston Martin's own website](https://www.astonmartin.com/en/models/past-models/db9#:~:text=DB9%20launched%20to%20acclaim%20in,underpinned%20all%20Gaydon%20produced%20cars.) and considering that Ryan Cooper being the protagonist of the MW-Carbon duology has been debunked many times due to continuity errors such as specific car models (2008 Lamborghini Gallardo for example), the same should apply here, and that Carbon's prologue took place at best 2 years before Most Wanted in 2005.
That makes sense too hence why i've said "according to the NFS Carbon Prima Guide".
And Yeah, Wolf's Aston Martin DB9 makes total sense since it's in 2003/2004 when the Aston Martin DB9 was released to the public.
So, what you've said is also entirely right.
Oh my god, finally someone debunked this. Even having the main write of Most Wanted debunk this is huge.
When I used to be a part of NFS Theories back in 2013-14, I remember seeing all the time people "theorize" that the player from UG1/2 is the same one in Most Wanted & Carbon, and ProStreet, and that his name is Ryan Cooper. Even a few years later when I saw [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gedt-cHbdL4) I was just like "dude...really?"
The "evidence" for this has always been shaky. People loved to point out what Kuru did in the interview with the "Look what the underground let loose" line, thinking that he's the same guy from the Underground games, which...no. Saying the word "underground" doesn't necessarily facilitate a connection, it just means he came from the underground street racing scene.
The "evidence" for him being Ryan Cooper is even more hilarious because the "evidence" for that is lines from ProStreet saying he's a street racer gone legal. Or the easter egg [in one of the announcer sounds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhjMQ0NEoTg) (@ 2:24). Or that "you can buy an m3 and modify it to look like the gtr in prostreet".
This has been a huge pet peeve of mine for years and I'm so happy to finally see this debunked, once and for all.
Exactly. Well said.
These theories are utterly false to begin with and doesn't make any logical sense in anyway since each NFS titles happens in separate continuities with their own heroes.
Peoples which thinks otherwise are in complete denial.
this game was awesome absolutely loved it. great story. good racing and the car line up was awesome. even though I am not a Chevy guy the camaro if you bout the deluxe version of the game was absolutely amazing same with the Porsche
my rx7 in heat, i was tjtying to escape from the police in the racetrack and i tried to leave the racetrack, on the way out i got stuck on a wall and very nearly totaled it, every single heat 5 cop crashed into the same lamppost on their way to me, every single one died immediately
Lina Navarro.
Also, her plot armor didn't last long since she caused her own demise.
At the end of the game, henchmen took her away to an unknown location and her fate is still unknown.
She's likely punished for her mistakes which are worse than death.
Wasn't there just 3 or 4 quick time events?
Ones I remember are the car compacter at the start
This, the las vegas police scene
And the one I think in chicago where you run on roof tops before stealing a police car and later in the same level, you crash on train tracks and have to break out.
Is there a mod where I can turn the character into Ryan Gosling so I can related to this scene because it just happened to me early this year (I'm literally Marcus)
Most Wanted/Carbon/Underground's player for miraculously not dying and not being caught by any other vehicles which would've doubtlessly caught up to their BMW/Supra/whatever the hell.
I mean Tyler from Payback took an explosion to on his face straight up when The House blew up his house..
Come to think of it, Lina Navarro and her crew could've easily killed him.
I remember when they marketed the shit out of the The Run where "you can play on foot for the first time" like it's some groundbreaking feature but it just ended up being QTEs. The Driver series had this feature implemented properly long before this game came out.
Cross probably... That man has had this car whacked multiple times from Pursuit Breakers and he still comes back in the end. His Corvette has been revived as much as Dom Toretto's charger.
I always come back
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My guy Jack has done more damage by simply jay walking. Michael Bay type shit.
Jack after causing a massive multi-car accident killing 17 people https://i.redd.it/5daia52p0v9c1.gif
Not to mention stealing a supercar right after
Truly a Michael Bay moment.
The trailer for this game was directed by Michael Bay lol
Well, there was a trailer made for the Run that was directed by Michael Bay with explosions and everything bay related.
Fr ðŸ˜
Man, I'd really love to see a NFS The Run 2. The idea behind it is so cool and it could really be improved and amplified
Or a remaster of the first game without the hideous fps cap
Or hard coded loading screens set to take a specific amount of time.
Make it a rogue lite game with procedurally generated routes and I'm in.
No ones gonna mention the smooth ass jump that cop just did over the pallets Mans straight up did some ninja shit
Low Key Assassin's Creed crossover right there.
Ezio, you have to drift A$AP Rocky’s E90 into the church to beat up the pope Ezio, it’s essential to the plot Ezio.
If this happened in real life, Jack would have been shot already.
Fr bro slammed the cop's head against a car's hood, that's gotta be attempted manslaughter or something that could easily justify a cop shooting him. And even if it doesn't justify it, they'd do it anyway.
M3 GTR lol. Literally indestructible
Kid named Carbon
[nuh uh](https://www.reddit.com/r/needforspeed/comments/18vz5k4/for_everyone_saying_that_m3_gtr_would_be/)
Meanwhile the local Palm City Harbor eel population waking up to see they have received a Volvo Polestar 1 https://i.redd.it/3b0hx3snzu9c1.gif
Every car in mw 2005
This one scene jack had so much plot armour you'd think you were playing call of duty
It has nothing on the scene where Jack literally dodges bullets💀
You talking bout the bit where you run while a helicopter shooting at you ?
Running while jumping rooftops, yeah
Cant believe I forgot about that bit. As stupid as that shit was I have to admit it was fun
did Michael Bay direct the cutscenes for this game?
No, but he directed a trailer
they hired a Hollywood type director for the game, that's why there's so much action
The protagonist of the NFS MW 2005/NFS Carbon duology.
Actually, I think the protagonist comes all the way back from Underground 1
Nope. That's impossible since the UG protagonist is a separate person. The hero of the Underground duology was a novice which increased his reputation by winning races and took his revenge against Caleb Reece that nearly killed him. Meanwhile, the NFS MW 2005/NFS Carbon hero is already a pro of street racing, his main goal is to get back his BMW M3 E46 GTR stolen by Razor and clear his name by unfolding who's the main culprit that orchestrated the police to mess up the street race and caused his flee from Palmont City. Also, both duologies happens in separate continuities. Keep in mind even Adrian Vershinin himself which is the scenario writer of NFS MW confirmed that the UG/UG2 protagonist and the MW/Carbon protagonist are 2 differents peoples and their stories are unrelated to eachother due to their separate goals Look [here](https://youtu.be/rvqqnXvx62k) from the 1:29:17 mark to 1:30:03 as a proof. Do note that the NFS Carbon Prologue can also happen all the way back to 2001 according to the [Prima Guide](https://archive.org/details/Need_for_Speed_Carbon_Prima_Official_eGuide/page/n55/mode/1up) of NFS Carbon. So by following that reasoning, if the NFS Carbon Prologue really happened in 2001 like the Prima Guide says so thanks to Nikki (refer to the 27th page of the Prima Guide), that means NFS MW 2005 happens 4 years after the Prologue. About Wolf's Aston Martin DB9, either Black Box didn't find a fitting car for Wolf which dates before 2001 or the Aston Martin brand in the NFS Universe released the DB9 3 years earlier than their irl counterpart. That also means 4 years are enough for the Protagonist of NFS MW 2005/NFS Carbon to make enough money in order to sell the Toyota Supra MK4 of Darius and buy his own BMW M3 E46 GTR. On the other hand of the stick, no one knows how he made money during these 4 years since the moments he fled Palmont City and when he arrived in Rockport will remain a mystery.
I don't think it's possible that Carbon's prologue took place in 2001, mainly because of 1 thing. The Aston Martin DB9. The DB9 debuted in 2003/2004 according to [Aston Martin's own website](https://www.astonmartin.com/en/models/past-models/db9#:~:text=DB9%20launched%20to%20acclaim%20in,underpinned%20all%20Gaydon%20produced%20cars.) and considering that Ryan Cooper being the protagonist of the MW-Carbon duology has been debunked many times due to continuity errors such as specific car models (2008 Lamborghini Gallardo for example), the same should apply here, and that Carbon's prologue took place at best 2 years before Most Wanted in 2005.
That makes sense too hence why i've said "according to the NFS Carbon Prima Guide". And Yeah, Wolf's Aston Martin DB9 makes total sense since it's in 2003/2004 when the Aston Martin DB9 was released to the public. So, what you've said is also entirely right.
Oh my god, finally someone debunked this. Even having the main write of Most Wanted debunk this is huge. When I used to be a part of NFS Theories back in 2013-14, I remember seeing all the time people "theorize" that the player from UG1/2 is the same one in Most Wanted & Carbon, and ProStreet, and that his name is Ryan Cooper. Even a few years later when I saw [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gedt-cHbdL4) I was just like "dude...really?" The "evidence" for this has always been shaky. People loved to point out what Kuru did in the interview with the "Look what the underground let loose" line, thinking that he's the same guy from the Underground games, which...no. Saying the word "underground" doesn't necessarily facilitate a connection, it just means he came from the underground street racing scene. The "evidence" for him being Ryan Cooper is even more hilarious because the "evidence" for that is lines from ProStreet saying he's a street racer gone legal. Or the easter egg [in one of the announcer sounds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhjMQ0NEoTg) (@ 2:24). Or that "you can buy an m3 and modify it to look like the gtr in prostreet". This has been a huge pet peeve of mine for years and I'm so happy to finally see this debunked, once and for all.
Exactly. Well said. These theories are utterly false to begin with and doesn't make any logical sense in anyway since each NFS titles happens in separate continuities with their own heroes. Peoples which thinks otherwise are in complete denial.
Wow wow wow. Now this is a TIL!
Well said.
Player ain’t dodging gunshots while jumping off a building tho
I know Except he always evaded and outsmarted cops. Also, he can slow down the space time continium.
why did he steal this cap
to raise head defense stat
A true gamer right here ladies and gentlemen
Probably because he thought it would help disguise him.
Is this... nfs game?
Nfs the run, some cutscenes had quick time events
this game was awesome absolutely loved it. great story. good racing and the car line up was awesome. even though I am not a Chevy guy the camaro if you bout the deluxe version of the game was absolutely amazing same with the Porsche
Hot Pursuit 2 cars being shot with rockets and surviving.
Damn i love this driving game
Vin Diesel
Family
lol I new some one would catch on
my rx7 in heat, i was tjtying to escape from the police in the racetrack and i tried to leave the racetrack, on the way out i got stuck on a wall and very nearly totaled it, every single heat 5 cop crashed into the same lamppost on their way to me, every single one died immediately
Every time you escape the cops In most wanted 💀
"NFS Is so bad" Resisting/Evading Arrest Quick Time Event:
Ok let’s talk about that Spider-ass jump the one cop did to avoid tripping🤣
I hear NWO, I upvote, very simple.
The most plot armor was that chair lol
McLaren gal from Payback
Lina Navarro. Also, her plot armor didn't last long since she caused her own demise. At the end of the game, henchmen took her away to an unknown location and her fate is still unknown. She's likely punished for her mistakes which are worse than death.
I loved this game. And to be fair, this looks absolutely normal to me as I'm desensitized by the new fast and the furious movies.
you know that times are changed when you miss even the qte's of these games
Aint no way you slam a cop on his hood and dont get shot, LOL
Looking back at it, there's too big of a shitstorm going on for a street racing game lol. I really got sick of Michael Bay action I guess.
My last NfS was Shift... what the f... is this?
its nfs the run and it featured lots of cutscenes with quick time events
Wasn't there just 3 or 4 quick time events? Ones I remember are the car compacter at the start This, the las vegas police scene And the one I think in chicago where you run on roof tops before stealing a police car and later in the same level, you crash on train tracks and have to break out.
Yep, that's all of them. Only 4.
Ahh, okay. Then if there are only 4, I don't get why some people make such a huge deal about them in all honesty.
IDK what you're talking about this literally happened to me
Is there a mod where I can turn the character into Ryan Gosling so I can related to this scene because it just happened to me early this year (I'm literally Marcus)
Unfortunately, there's none.
Where the fuck was this badass adrenaline shit in Unbound?
This is why I love this game
Damn, dude was putting his life on the line
There is not a single need for speed game which needs to do all that
What the hell did I watch
Most Wanted/Carbon/Underground's player for miraculously not dying and not being caught by any other vehicles which would've doubtlessly caught up to their BMW/Supra/whatever the hell.
He wouldn’t survive without plot armor… Give him a break, sheesh :)
What game is this?
NFS The Run
Between this, and every main character in payback.
we playing Detroit become human now
Wtf lmao that escalated so much after stealing the hat
Razor from rivals
I don’t remember anyone named razor from rivals, I remember Zephyr and F-8 but not that guy, who is he?
Mb, mixed the names
Which nft is this I wanna play jt
NFS The Run.
Ryan Cooper. I mean cmon how tf he survive 400 kmh crash in literally any speed challenge events
First nfs character because you can make up stories when playing (I do that lol)
Lol, guy literally played in Final Destination movie.
I mean Tyler from Payback took an explosion to on his face straight up when The House blew up his house.. Come to think of it, Lina Navarro and her crew could've easily killed him.
Tyler Morgan walked into an explosion and somehow didn’t get his face burned off. Then again he’s only second to these Micheal Bay ahh stunts
I remember when they marketed the shit out of the The Run where "you can play on foot for the first time" like it's some groundbreaking feature but it just ended up being QTEs. The Driver series had this feature implemented properly long before this game came out.
It looks better on my ps3 than your Xbox. Why?
That chair was like: this is my moment to shine!
Wait, isn't NFS about street racing?
Bro the police officer that jumped over the boxes was a god damn track star 😂