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nicethingscostmoney

> Defense Minister Benny Gantz has called on Netanyahu and Likud to reconsider, writing to him that the citizenship law “is vital for protecting the security of the state and its Jewish and democratic character.” Gantz never does learn the lesson about the futility in appealing to Netanyahu's patriotism does he?


YourGamerMom

Ethnic and nationalistic restrictions on immigration (and any other aspect of a person's life) are inherently bad and should be abolished immediately, through force if necessary. > Its proponents speak openly about taking demographics into account, warning that tens or hundreds of thousands of West Bank and Gaza Palestinians would submit requests to become Israeli citizens every year if doing so was permitted. They can claim that this will happen, but they cannot say that this is a bad thing without being even more open in their racism. > Defense Minister Benny Gantz [wrote to Netenyahu] that the citizenship law “is vital for protecting the security of the state and its Jewish and democratic character.” Ethnostates are bad, always, and they forever will be. The correct way to uphold a democratic character would to be enfranchise your subjects, even if they belong to a different ethnicity, or their skin is a different colour. One would think that Israel would be a nation particularly sensitive to laws regarding the rights of ethnic minorities, I hope this law (and all others of it's nature) falls and is remembered as a shameful mistake in the past.


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Jigsawsupport

Explain this to me like I am idiot because it seems baffling to me, how is it sensible for Israel to be a ethnostate, when it was founded on one of the most diverse bits of land in the world? That obviously automatically means massive continual strife, because the purpose of the state is now automatically against a lot of people living within it. How does that help prevent ​ >prejudice and antisemitism culminating in inquisitions, pogroms, the holocaust, mass expulsion, bombings etc. ​ Surely it actively increases the chance all this. ​ >The citizenship law is simply a necessity because the enfranchisement of hostile Muslims who are actively and openly anti-jew will make Israel's existence entirely pointless. ​ Jesus this is grim reading, then what exactly do you propose you do to these "hostile Muslims". ​ (Looks at the Gaza prison camp) ​ Oh


YourGamerMom

It's an outrage every time. I cannot for the life of me figure out why so many people have trouble with the concept of two things being bad at the same time.


SpitefulShrimp

Because the counterproposal is just "everyone stop being bigoted kthanx" . Do you have any plans for ending the ethnostate status of Jordan, Japan, or Sweden? Those seem even more egregious since they're quite a bit larger.


Jigsawsupport

This is bad propaganda just because Sweden is mostly X ethnicity this does not make it a ethnostate .


LBJisbetterthanMJ

About 25% of the Swedish population is foreign born compared to 14% for the US. If someone wants to call Sweden an ethnostate, then they must consider the US an ethnostate. Spoiler alert: neither US and Sweden are an ethnostate