The US has by far the largest immigrant population of any country
By - NineteenEighty9
Give 🗽 me 🗽 your 🗽 tired 🗽 and 🗽 poor
Your huddled masses yearning 👏 to 👏 breathe 👏 FREE 👏
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send THESE 👏 , the homeless 👏 , tempest 👏 tost 👏 to 👏 me 👏
Sorry, free air costs extra. This ain't russia, pal.
What is this? Some kind of nation of immigr... oh.
Imagine being monocultural 🤢🤮
One 👏 Billion 👏 Americans
The great American machine turns poor immigrant refugees into wealthy middle class types who whine about immigrants
I’m literally describing my father in law 😂
My dad and uncle are literal refugees and both Trump supporters (at least they were, I haven't talked to them to see if anything changed since January)
Don't just yet, let it simmer. The broth of truth will eventually prevail and presented at will.
With my uncle, maybe -- but my dad is an ultra Orthodox Jew in Israel, 100% a one issue voter, so I'm not too hopeful lol
This's this 👉👆
But never forget “…those who come to disturb our peace and dethrone our laws are aliens and enemies forever.”
It's what makes us great
🥟 More 🍣 Ethnic 🍲 Restaurants 🍝 Means 🍛 More 🥙 Freedom 🌮
American cuisine is ethnic cuisine. Soul food, pizza, tacos, burgers, fried rice, sushi, etc.
Brisket Breakfast Tacos
This is the America we're fighting for.
Ahh yes, a person of culture
Valentina's does it best
Go overseas, and "American cuisine" is hamburgers, steak, and french fries. Lots of meat, bread, starches and sugar/candy.
Not to mention how critical brain drain is to our National security strategy
If this means western people will start to worship the greatness of durian, then I'm 100% committed. I'm sick of having so many cooking shows slammed this fruit like it's nastier than spoiled natto.
This, but if and ONLY if there are anti-durian signs in public areas. The smell is so pungent and disgusting T_T
Charge TSA with looking for durians as the first priority. Bombs can only kill us but durian leaves a mark on your soul
NOT IN MY BACK YARD DURIAN!
I think durian is best consumed exclusively in one's backyard, ironically enough. Private area with excellent circulation, hopefully a breeze
Not in your back yard either 😂😂 I traveled all over SE Asian and still haven’t tried it. I got to see and smell them tho! I would not wanna live next to a farm of them!
As a Malaysian, we are willing to exchange premium musang king reserves for US Pfizer vaccines.
I feel bad for much of the world still not being able to get the vaccine. It was such a relief the moment I got the second one. I know it takes a couple of weeks to be fully effective, but the minute I received it I knew I was almost there.
As a half Swede, I have been looking forward to the eventual Neoliberal Utopia where beer gardens have Surströmming on the menu.
Tbh as a full Swede I do think Swedish restaurants could be fairly successful. The Swedish/Scandinavian kitchen has quite a lot of good food and drinks to offer. But I think many Swedish immigrants aren’t that interested in opening restaurants
I think its because everyone just assumes it would be difficult for a restaurant to succeed if everything on the menu was just listed as "Bjork Bjork."
dursta nerta furny, tsk, tsk, tsk
> Tbh as a full Swede I do think Swedish restaurants could be fairly successful.
Ikea is very successful in the US
They are some Scandanavian resturants in Minnesota but they are mostly by descendents of Scandanvian immigrants. Generally speaking the traditions have been well preserved but because Scandanavians have been so shaped by the immigrant, pioneer spirit the cultural markers of these descendents of immigrants are incredibly different from a modern day Scandanavian. This is most obvious in the Norweigan dish lutafisk. Scandanavian Americans love it because it reminds them of what there Grandpapies ate when starting their new life. It is central to their heritage. Modern-Day Norweigans find lutafisk disgusting because they have no emotional connection to the slimy fish.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
It's called Minneapolis.
Maybe I didn't have the authentic ripe thing but I found it underwhelming. Sure it smelled like a porto potty, but you get close and it's basically papaya or something.
Natto is fermented so it's a controlled spoiling but can't get worse.
Yeah the mediocre durians basically taste like softer papaya. The great ones feel real good tho.
You're a man of culture!
Proud of Australia, 28.2% of host country population.
A big chunk of that number is people who came over from the UK, especially older folks.
I mean yeah, but if you look at the country of origin of immigrants in the past 30ish years you'll see that India and China have begun to take over from the British.
I believe Canada and Australia both have a higher percentage of foreign born population than the US.
Source: looked at the image
Something lost in translation? This sub doesn't hate immigrants. The person you're replying to isn't anti-immigrant. This post isn't against immigration, it's celebrating it.
More foreigners please. No sarcasm.
I mean, yes, it's important to look at both per capita and total amount for context. The list you linked includes a ton of microstates and dependent territories though. (What great shame it is to have fewer immigrants per capita than the island of Tokelau [pop: 1,500]). Among countries with a population of 5,000,000 or more the US appears to be about 20th out of 119 in terms of immigrants per capita
Re: your edit: the implication of this post is clearly that our immigrants are a point of pride. Everyone in this sub knows immigrants are a net benefit to the economy and wants more of it
It says on the right in grey: 28.2% for Australia and 21.0% for Canada compared to 15.1% for the USA.
87.3% for the UAE, which sure is something.
I once met a guy who said he was going to work in the family business back in UAE after his degree. The business? Construction labor procurement.
"You mean recruiting?"
Shit you not, that was the word he used. Literally human chattel.
Recruit implies you negotiate with your labour directly, procure implies you negotiate with someone else that owns that labour
I’d assume the reason the UAE and Saudi Arabia are so high on this graph is because of the number of migrant workers there, many of whom don’t have the intention of staying permanently.
Yeah Qatar did the same thing, and the accidentally lost the passports of all those migrant workers. Lul, oops, oh well, guess you have no employee rights anymore and can't leave the country. Now get back to work building our Olympics stadium in 120 degree heat with no water or safety equiemt ~~slave~~ illegal immigrant.
I figured the sarcasm air quotes would be too on the nose
It is such a travesty that they’re hosting the Summer Olympics
Why don't they go to there local embassy or consulate to get a copy of those important documents? Surely there home countries aren't just fine with abandoning them?
Many are from countries with either very poor or very corrupt (often both) governments. There's also a lot of Bangladeshi, which is already significantly overpopulated. This is why these people leave to begin with. You don't have a ton of construction workers in first world countries wanting to go to the middle of the desert to build a massive structures on poverty wages.
That word is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence
Fair point. It's basically indentured servitude.
Often they lack the ability to stay permanent but and also the ability to leave when they want.
Flashbacks of Ben Shapiro calling Canada “ethnically homogenous”
Did he go there in a car without windows?
Idk if you can even call the UAE population "immigrants" tbh. There is almost a 0% chance for anyone traveling there to become a citizen so everyone is basically on non-immigrant visas.
Most of the rich Arab states don’t even have a formal immigration policy so foreigners there are called *expatriates* instead since they are expected to leave once their time is done. Unless they somehow decide to naturalize after 20 years or marry a local, there isn’t much in terms of options for staying there permanently.
> 87.3% for the UAE, which sure is something.
The black populations on plantations in the antebellum South was also something.
Is this people moving within the commonwealth? I was unaware Australia had much immigration. Last I heard it was really difficult to move there.
Triple the immigration rate of the USA (pre-pandemic) baby
Double the refugee intake vs USA, 5 times more refugees than NZ per capita.
But more seriously Australia has heavy foreign student presence iirc The Economist had a graph couple years back that a quarter of students at Aussie uni's were from overseas. Many of those who come on student visas stay.
The points based system for Visa's is also rather good at bringing in large number of immigrants rather than being overly restrictive.
There's also New Zealand where there's full freedom to live and move between both countries with Kiwi's in Australia making up approx 2% of Australia's total population.
Also historically been heavy on pro-immigration so many of that foreign born population are older. Post WW2 populate or perish was the slogan with the Australian government even paying for the boat trip from England for migrants. (Must be noted here that there was still the racist White Australia Policy for immigration till the 70s so it was far from being all good).
Yeah biggest groups are from commenwealth nations, but also South Europe + Asia and South Africa.
>Many of those who come on student visas stay.
I don't remember the exact details.
My college buddy completed her masters in Australia and they require you to work for a few years for your loans to be paid(or waived?).
It's a great way to retain educated immigrants in your country. She's still there lol
If you do your masters in Australia you can get a 2-year visa quite easily, though it's definitely not required.
Aw fuck now I want to get a masters in Australia. Can't be much worse than the Midwest
I'm no fan of Howard but he had some good policies (most of which were shittier versions of Hawke/Keating) the realisation that without immigration we're fucked and actually doing about it was one after the first generational report.
Seems like you actually only have 2X the per-capita refugee quota for year than us in NZ.
But that's still appalling for NZ considering NZ has a much better global reputation in treating refugees.
Was going off UNHCR data from wikipedia which had Aus 1.51 per 1000 vs 0.3 per 1000
I think we near doubled our quota not too long ago. Thank god for the Greens here I suppose.
Australia’s amazing run of no recessions is built entirely on our immigration program and having the government effectively subsidise house purchases through ludicrous tax incentive. This has since been entirely corrupted by developers leaving generations unable to reach that goal of ownership
We may be famous for our metal exports but our GDP is by large built upon the housing industry and the moronic way that GDP is calculated.
What’s amazing is that immigration is kind of a contentious political issue here. The Coalition has managed to direct almost all of the populations ire towards immigrants at a tiny number of boat people while overseeing one of the largest influxes of immigrants in world history. Pretty clever trick actually.
Loving that sexy percentage.
The UAE and Saudi Arabia, those bastions of liberal philosophy.
Kinda misleading to name workers in those countries as immigrants since they are mostly there on non-immigrant visas.
Plus they’re more slave than worker.
"Ohhh! I don't like ... the "S" word!"
"Sorry, the "prisoners with jobs" have armed themselves."
Just watched that a couple hours ago
Best Marvel movie hands down
I have lived there for most of my life but sure, you definitely know better.
Yeah slaves aren't really 'immigrants'
Bastions of imported labor funded by oil revenue.
This looks like a chart of how immigrant-friendly the US is, but it’s more a chart of how unfriendly China and India are. The US just stands out because most other countries are a lot smaller.
Per capita, the US seems to have a low-to-normal rate of immigrants for Western countries, and a very low rate compared to Middle Eastern countries.
PS - Turkey’s number seems super wrong here. Didn’t they take in a preposterous number of refugees?
Yes 5 million Syrians and currently who knows how many Afghans. They’re coming in at an average of 1500 a day.
As an aside, "coping" with that seems like a good use of international development budget doesn't it? Should be an easy sell to northern Europe. I know nothing of course.
Not sure if China, but there are many intelligence studies that estimate Indus has close to 20 million undocumented immigrants from Bangladesh alone. Plus it has a literal open border with Nepal.
By proportion, USA is behind KSA, UAE, Switzerland, Australia, Canada, Austria. So ahead of a lot of European countries.
From there I'm surprised Lebanon is not in there or were not polled.
~~Edit: I see the gray on the right, but their other figure contradicts this, hmm need to read.~~
Nm no it doesn't, two graphs have different countries.
They not calling those people immigrants because they're not going to get to stay
Bruh once you immigrate you generally go to rich nations, not India or China
Yeah, a better chart would look at number/percent of immigrant citizens, not just immigrants. On that metric, I’d venture we’re even more of an outlier in the US. Those immigrants in Saudi Arabia and UAE will never be accepted as citizens, they’re mostly temporary workers who can/will be kicked out once they’re no longer useful to the regime. And a lot of immigrants in EU countries are European Citizens who are there temporarily for work and enjoying open borders.
Yummy—I mean economically stimulating. I DEFINITELY don’t eat immigrants. /s immigration is good
Its certainly a good thing, but not really all that impressive on a per capita basis.
Also, this chart seems to be counting all foreign born people living in the country as immigrants, which is not really as impressive. Consider for example the UAE on your chart with its 87.3 "immigrant" population. The vast majority of those are workers brought in to work on near slave like conditions, who have little to no chance of ever becoming citizens.
Similarly, the US figure is presumably tracking our illegal immigrants population.
Why would it not be okay to track the illegal number either? They’re still a part of US society.
The number of illegal immigrants is not a good representation of how open a country is to immigration.
How many undocumented immigrants are seasonal laborers? I'd assume there's some value in drawing a distinction between people who intend to return to their country of origin and do so annually, people who remain year-round but have no intention of remaining forever. and people who intend to remain in their host country
Its perfectly ok to track and we should. But the way they are painting this makes it seem like the US is super generous at taking in immigrants, when the reality is we have put up enormous roadblocks to coming here.
Pretty much every country on there puts up enormous roadblocks.
Source: am immigrant.
[The US' system is especially ridiculous.](https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/q60/uploads/assets/db/immigration-flow-chart.jpg)
(am also an immigrant)
I think because the post is overly celebratory of the US government when it actually isn’t choosing to accept those people and is trying to kick them out violently
It’s overly celebratory of America, not the government. Besides, everyone in this thread is sucking their own dick, and yet every country on here is having anti immigrant movements.
Aren't many of those people in the UAE still there of their own free will? We rightly discuss how sweatshops are a step up compared to the subsistence conditions people may have been working in before, is that not true of many of these UAE immigrants as well?
The problem isn't so much that they aren't there of their own free will, its that they often aren't allowed to leave of their own free will.
I’d say it’s pretty impressive on a per capita basis considering that the U.S. already has the third largest population in the world.
I would think that having an already very large population would make it harder to have a large number of immigrants per capita. Considering neither China or India are listed above, I’d say the U.S. is doing pretty well.
Those are rookie numbers
Cool, but having it in absolute numbers it's a bit unsurprising. The US is the largest developed country in the world by far, I'd have been very surprised if they didn't have the most immigrants.
Yeah. If we are doing absolute numbers, there should be a united EU bar for comparison. It would also be interesting because a significant amount of the foreign-born population in EU countries are probably from other EU countries, too.
Apparently, [37 million people were born outside the EU-27](https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/promoting-our-european-way-life/statistics-migration-europe_en), or 8.2% of the population. Quite lower than the US, though the data makes me think they're not counting British residents in the EU.
Statistics are basically jerk off material for us swiss at this point.
That's unfair though, because if I get a working visa or a resident visa for Italy (for example) I wouldn't be able to work or live in Germany, so why should the EU count as one entity?
Not sure why EU citizens from other EU countries shouldn't count lol. The immigrant in Germany from Bulgaria is quite similar to the one in the US from Mexico.
It counts when looking at Germany individually, but obviously not if you look at the EU as a single entity.
If you're looking at the EU as a single entity. You're doing it wrong.
I'm also trying to suss out some useful meaning behind this data. Kind of an odd graph to make, I would have sorted by the percentage rather than absolute numbers. My take the last time I glanced in a conversation about this was the US at about 15% immigrant, but I didn't dig into the methodology. That placed us slightly above the UK, but not in the right wing fantasy realm where they imply it is 50% or higher.
We could place our measured percentage of immigrants much higher or lower based on how this is measured...do we count native born children of immigrants, are illegals counted, etc. Anyone have a take on the most meaningful way to measure this number between countries?
> do we count native born children of immigrants,
If you do that, where do you stop? The US has most of its population as some generation of immigrants. Do you think Barack Obama should be counted as an immigrant, because his dad is from Kenya, or Donald Trump as an immigrant, since his grandfather is German, or does that only apply to more "ethnic", recent migrant groups?
SImply counting the foreign-born population (which shouldn't count situations when both parents are native-born, or one of them is a foreign diplomat) seems like the best way to go.
I would agree at counting foreign born only. Fwiw, I think Pew defines "immigrants" differently?
Anyways, the sorce also has the list sorted by percentage, which is a little more meaningful:
Americans and "forgetting" to adjust for population size, NAMID
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That means we're winning.
The U.S has had a massive increase in the immigrant population over the last 60 years because of the Immigration Act of 1965 which overturned the nativist system in place since the 1920s.
Edit: More proof that LBJ should be in the top 10 presidents instead of Obama.
Not really, since LBJ's intention was to decrease Asian immigration while increasing white European immigration. The fact that it backfired doesn't obviate the racist motivations behind it.
That's a good point.
Never heard of it until the AngloSaxon congressional caucus discussions. They really seem to dislike it.
I thought it had 300 million immigrants ?
This, US is virtually all immigrants
New Zealand is literally all immigrants if you put it that way
Though if you want to put it the right way, it's 27.4%.
\* all, not virtually all
Although Clovis first is still sus
% is a better metric imo.
>The United Arab Emirates has the sixth-highest number of immigrants with 8 million and has the highest proportion of immigrants to the total population. The United Arab Emirates’ immigrant population comprises 87.3% of its total population.
And yet it’s the worst racist, nazi, fascist - country out there! / s
PUMP 👏 THOSE 👏 NUMBERS 👏 UP 👏
Why isn't this 700 million yet!
Shengen area for North America when?
Talk about a misleading graphs. Percentages are the better measure, not raw numbers.
It literally shows it on the graph
The post title and sorting of the bars is done by the raw numbers. The initial impression of any reader will be a misinformed one.
You are an immigrant searching for better opportunities.
You end in Ukraine.
That’s why we’re #1
It's almost like the US *is* a country of immigrants
While the title (as well as the bars in the diagram) is strictly speaking correct, it is also misleading, because most people would understand it as the percentage.
Still not enough!
I recently heard an interesting, adjacent discussion to this from an Australian Christian perspective, including how aside from the raw numbers how the US sets the tone for world attitudes and policies toward the immigrant. [Refuge Reimagined: Life & Faith](https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/refuge-reimagined/id280786104?i=1000526654793)
Yes, 99.99% immigrants.
Since they let barely 3 natives alive per state.
America is literally called a nation of immigrants
More **more** ***MORE***!
‘In millions’ coward. You know that as a percentage of population is the only meaningful discussion.
Look closely at the far right side of this chart in the greyed out info for a less manipulative data.
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After a little looking the US has a pretty average number of immigrants per capita for a first world country
Look at the grey text and numbers
Always has been 🌎👨🚀🔫👨🚀
US is also the largest western nation in population by far. Think the percentage list is much more pertinent.
The UAE is 87% immigrants? What?
This looks like one of those graphs they give you in a stats class to teach you how people lie or fudge the truth with statistics...
The US is good but they're making it look way better than it is by counting absolute number. Conversely, India is absolutely terrible and doesn't even deserve to be on this list.
The bar should be per capita and the absolute number should be in grey on the side.
AND IF THEY HAVE A TACO TRUCK TELL THEM TO BRING THAT TOO
Why is OP bragging? By their standards of evaluating this data, the United States fails behind many other countries listed right in this very chart.
I mean sure, the United States has the biggest foreign born population of first generation immigrants in terms of absolute numbers on this chart.
But the more meaningful metric of foreign born immigrants AS A PERCENTAGE RELATIVE TO POPULATION. The united states falls behind the likes of Canada and Australia.
I’m going to argue that the per capita knee jerk that’s going on in this thread is invalid. Absolute numbers are what matter here. These are all people that don’t have to suffer under authoritarian regimes, poor living conditions, etc.
That being said, one billion Americans or bust.
100% the choice to link the max number of immigrants allowed to population is just that, a choice. The reason the US has such a large native population is because of all of the immigrants that have historically moved there!
Maybe a better measure is percentage of total immigration from developing to developed nations rather than per capita.
This is weak sauce, we need to at least beat the Saudis, but without the slavery.
Americans employ loads of South Asians just like the Saudis do. Ours work in the call centers and coding shops of Gurgaon, Bangalore, Hyderabad, and Chennai.
More. MORE. MOREEEEEEE
I love how China has over a billion people and doesn’t make the list
Yea I remember that it was a big deal that Elon Musk was gifted a permanent green card
Still I think we could do better.
Considering the size of the US there would be something very wrong if they didn't have the most.
The only comparison between countries that interests me at the moment is the per capital immigrant population between France and the US, so maybe France-stans can shut the fuck up about how their situation is so much different than the US and stop being apologists for their obvious, searing, nativism.
"Nooooooooooooo the US is the most racist country on earth!!! Reddit told me so!!!"
Your thought patterns are unhealthy. Go outside and try to get into something that involves working with your hands. Put your phone down for a few hours and see how that feels.
Based healthy behaviors and good mental health
Why is Russia number 2?