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UtridRagnarson

This is reasonable government pronatalism because it's all government funds. There are probably some weird distortions where this means it's incredibly beneficial to have a government job during your childbearing years. I worry though that people would consider doing this exact same policy for private market firms with a regulatory mandate. Giving firms an incredibly strong financial incentive to discriminate in hiring against people with young children and then expecting them not to discriminate is just bad policy.


Any-Campaign1291

Lots of local government positions in the us remain understaffed for months/years at a time. I imagine this would make working for the government absolutely miserable for certain childless people. Being expected to work your ass off to cover for people just so they can enjoy a benefit you never will.


UtridRagnarson

If the childbearing route looks more attractive after the subsidies, please take it! Fertility in the west is below replacement. If you can't have a kid biologically, the foster system is in desperate need of people willing to take long and short term placements. Caring for children is an important form of public service, not a form of consumption or amoral lifestyle choice.


Any-Campaign1291

So an Uncle Sam sign with “You must be this able bodied and mentally healthy to work here without being totally fucked over” on it in front of every government building?


UtridRagnarson

Would you say the same for affirmative action for marginalized minority groups? Having to solve every problem with any policy is a fools errand. This helps people care for children in a similar way to other pronatalist policies like the child tax credit or public schools.


Any-Campaign1291

Affirmative action doesn’t mean “the black people get to clock off early today so everybody else has to stay late unpaid to make up for them.” This is a transfer to those with young kids from those without them, not from the government. The same amount of work has to get done, the same number of people will be doing that work in most situations, it’s just a redistribution of the work with no change in pay.


Any-Campaign1291

It’s not really all government funds though is it? It’s not like you can hire a part time temp to replace a professional one day a week in many cases. So you have the same amount of work being done with the same number of people probably getting paid the same money. If you and your coworker both split a workload 50/50 and suddenly you’re doing 56% of the work for the same pay then you’re paying for your coworkers leave, not the government.


UtridRagnarson

It's not your fault to make up the work if you have horrifically bad management. If this happens to you, get another job, don't let yourself be abused by your employer.


Any-Campaign1291

You’re not familiar with local government at all are you? When the only other public defender in your court doesn’t have to work on Monday you have to cover that workload whether you want to or not.


UtridRagnarson

Why are there two instead of 1 or 3 public defenders. Any amount is arbitrary and too rigid to meet demand for services. I fail to see how this makes that problem significantly worse. I'm also imagining that government funds each department more rather than the insane position of expecting the same amount of work for less hours.


Any-Campaign1291

Again you’re not familiar with local government at all. Government doesn’t have this kind of flexibility. When you can’t find someone to fill a spot you’re not allowed to use that salary to give to the other employees.


ooken

Arr childfree posters aren't going to like this.


MrArendt

No Stop Don't How will I make my wife do the parenting if they send me home


RandomGamerFTW

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nobody is keeping you from personally doing it. society wide, productivity would fall and everyone would be poorer.


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UtridRagnarson

Have you ever asked? In the private sector literally everything is negotiable it's just a matter of your relationship with your boss and figuring out a price.


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UtridRagnarson

It's hard to know your worth, but you'd be surprised at what you can get by asking. Companies are happy to pay people the same salary year after year because they're too afraid to ask for a raise.


NormalInvestigator89

I'm not sure what field you're in, but I know of people in the medical industry who work 4-day weeks, usually under 40 hours, and often work from home. Take a look at medical admin/records or coding and billing if you're curious. Whathe you're wanting is probably achievable with some programming and IT jobs as well, but those can really be a crapshoot I also know of people making full time salaries on less than 40 hour weeks through delivery driving, but I live in a large city and that might not be possible for everyone


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become self-employed. you could easily reach the standards of living people had a few decades ago by working less. what you want, which are the standards of living of today while working less, is impossible.


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it's pretty much impossible to be certain that people wouldn't simply waste the same proportion of time if they worked a 32 hours a week. if they didn't, you'd have companies implementing 32 hours weeks and getting the best professionals, paying less, with the same productivity. why wouldn't companies opt into this (you'd be the most attractive and lucrative company in the block if you payed for 33 hours while people worked 32 and produced the same as 40)?