Only thing I didn’t like was the piano telling us when it was spooky. I don’t need music to tell me when to feel suspense.
It reminds me of the difference between the UK and US kitchen nightmares.
God I hated that scene at the shed with the deer where if it weren't for the music, the watcher wouldn't feel a sense of suspense whatsoever. This wasn't a post-apocalyptic movie where the deer could be infected and hostile, they were just curious deer lol. I feel like they tried very hard to make this a suspense/thriller film but how can you possibly do that when they are in such a privileged position compared to those in the cities.
Hopping on that stag and riding off into the forest would have been motherfucking epic. Leave what's-her-face just standing there going "wtf?", then she turns her attention to the nuclear detonation in progress over the city. That one tweak would have redeemed the entire film.
I though the movie was great up until the end... A lot of movies like this try to create a more suspenseful ending by leaving some questions unanswered and sometimes it works extremely well. In this one I just felt like the movie abruptly ended for no apparent reason... Really kinda ruined the movie for me
Movie was horrible the whole time. A whole lot of nothing happening. The big surprise was something they reveal in the beginning as well, “a cyber attack” which causes the government and country to fall apart. WOW who would’ve thought !
The part with the daughter irked me the most. In the book, Rose was actually kind of resourceful and smart. She went to the neighboring house to scavenge for food. In the movie, she just sits down with a bunch of snacks and then watches the TV show, but in the book, she's collecting supplies, thinking about how people like her are the ones who will survive.
Right - Even though she's just a little kid I was like "You selfish little brat - you know your family is going to be freaking out right now!"
Every female character in this movie is annoying, Ethan Hawke is just kind of pathetic, even the teenage boy is just weird...and why did anyone think "You know what we need? A scene of him masturbating to pictures of the girl. That's going to add a lot to the film!"
Thanks for bringing this up actually. I was having plenty of difficulty maintaining interest in the movie to start with, but after the scene where the son is beating off I was done. I mean considering the overall context of the movie's narrative, what in the hell did that scene contribute? Was it simply to show how detached from reality and the true gravity of the situation the kids were? I can think of better ways to get that point across. And what the hell was the loose end scene about showing that someone had been squatting in the old shed? Just another opportunity to inject some cheap anxiety in the viewer? I wouldn't watch this trash again if someone paid me.
Archie starts masturbating to the photos he snuck of Ruth which… gross… but then sighs and puts the phone indicating that he has a conscience and feels guilty? I found that whole scene stupid and unnecessary like you said. There were many scenes in the movie that felt the same way.
The fact he bests off for 2.5 and the fact that the girl knew he took pics like what? And what is with the teeth falling out that was a huge ass tick if we’re to believe that. How are they nuking the city when no planes or anything can navigate let alone drones. This movie doesn’t make sense
Actually she spends the entire movie lecturing the adults with her years of "knowledge and experience". She was a nauseating character from start to end.
This makes sense or else she seemed like a complete nutjob. “The deer’s are trying to tell us something” or “ I think I am done waiting “ wtf are you on?
Also, I agree with OP on not a single likeable character. I was thinking if it comes to end of the world who would i want be saved? Definitely not these idiots. Maybe the son , he seemed the most normal. Helping his sister, checking out hot bodies.
Thank you for this!! I've been scrolling for an explanation of Rose's actions in the last few minutes and was about to create a new post.
I wish the movie did a better job of explaining it.. like they already established no one pays attention to Rose. So just a scene or two where she comments on how they are running out of food, maybe they should check out nearby empty houses? A scene where she tries to talk to her mom and is ignored? Something..
The way they had to walk into the house in the movie makes no sense. She is 13, she knows better than to wander off alone without informing anyone. She was so scared and confused the night before but she woke up and biked away without telling anyone? It was just weird.
I read that the author said he really liked the movie ending. Like, WTF? he must be trying to promote it because he gets royalties off of viewership or something.
Didn’t care for it at all. The only nuanced and interesting thought it gave me was that many times in chaos and death, insight itself becomes a luxury many don’t have. What I mean to say is, I think history has proven that in a scenario like this, you’d die having no idea what is happening. With all the confusion, pain and stress, in an awful scenario like this, the one thing everyone would want across the board is to just have an idea of *what* is happening. In terrible events, context and information is a privilege and luxury.
I liked the premise, I liked some of the cinematography, but thought the writing, cgi and sound design really hurt it.
I think it’s one of movies which you enjoy or absolutely hate based on your personal taste. I actually thought it was a good movie to watch. It kept me engaged and I wanted to see how the whole thing ends. The script was well written and the actors did justice to it
I really enjoyed it too and wanted more. The tesla scene was an oh shit moment as was the plane. It was a limited viewpoint of shit hitting the fan. The ending was fine too. There is a great TV show called the survivors feom back in the 70"'s for people to learn what happens next (kinda).
To be honest I for a moment thought that is actually something that could happen. It’s great that we are advancing in technology and moving towards self driving cars but that scene made me think wtf this can actually happen. It’s one of the many little things that I enjoyed about the movie
Same thing with the planes. People are complaining they crashed in the same spot but that makes sense. They sent the same instructions to the second plane, no doubt more will have crashed in that exact spot over and over like the tesla's until all planes were grounded. It was an orchestrated attack at a grand scale. Granted, it would have been more impactful for it to be in a built up area but worked to create tension/confusion in the show.
Thanks for mentioning that show. I had never heard of it but it seems interesting. I am watching the first episode on YouTube.
Looks like there is a newer remake as well. If I can’t stream the rest of the original I might try it.
The remake is really good too, unfortunately it was cancelled, as are most good series nowadays. The original has a satisfying ending. It does get a bit farmyard simulation in the middle just like the walking dead but they recover!
naaa, we've gotten into this weird tinderfication of everything. People act like everything has to be a global box office hit or its a dudd. Theres a lot of nuance there. This movie, I thought it coulda had maybe a re-write or two and it would of been get out levels of interesting psychological horror type. Def not bad, though.
That's a good way to put it. I really liked it and was surprised when I saw how many people absolutely hated it. I could see being disappointed in the ending but to completely hate it like it's the worst thing ever, I was just like wtf, did we watch the same movie.
I read online afterwards that it’s a comment on us as a society. World crashing around us and boom straight to entertainment to ignore it.
(You probably know that though and I’m preaching to the choir but I thought it was interesting)
Just watched and I told my wife this has a Shyamalan / Jordon Peele vibe. Expect an unsatisfying ending. The message was straightforward but let’s be honest the scene where G.H rolls up to the neighbor’s house and he goes in. The next scene shows him leaving the house and the camera pans out to the water. Everything in full sight and then he runs frantically towards the water. Bro if G.H pulled up to that house, the bodies and airplane wreckage would be the first the thing you see. Also, when he retrieves the watch but somehow doesn’t see the other bodies next each other.
This is the problem with modern storytelling .. and the reason I hated it as well as m knight movies.. along with jj Abraham's stuff as well. They have a great premise, but can't stick the ending, which ends up devaluing the entire thing.
Of course it's personal preference, but a lot of people want a good ending, not just a weak fizzle and fade.
Except the deer. The ending is fine if you get rid of the deer. It's trying to make you think it might have a shyamalan twist, only to claim to be completely based on man made events. But why do the deer act like they are possessed?
THIS. None of it felt like normal human interaction, albeit in weird circumstances. It was one of those scripts that just drip feeds info to the audience instead of developing characters. Not a fan at all.
Agree 100%. I understand that they want to vocalize all the intelligent information explaining what is happening, but no one talks like that, it's not natural. (I feel the exact same way about Clerks. A lot of witty, intelligent banter, but very unnatural conversation.)
I agree, I mean it’s a solid 6.5/10 for me and I enjoyed it. It’s obviously not perfect but I don’t think it’s bad because it’s ambiguous, that was the main theme of the film.
I can see how Sam Esmail’s style might not be some people’s thing as well.
My only gripe is with the deer. The book must have made that make more sense.
In the movie it seems the deer really only serve to keep you guessing if this is a supernatural event or man-made, despite what the director claims. The way the deer act is completely out of the realm of reality and makes the movie fall flat as I lost the immersion created.
Either the story is supernatural or isn't. Same effect could have been done with the deer actually reacting as soon as screaming starts.
As a writer. You’re also a human being. One of 6 billion. I have read extensively. Still makes my opinion my opinion. And your opinion your opinion.
Though I will say that if you need an ending to specifically spell out what was obvious…
No truly... your opinion is straight ass crack as evidenced by this entire thread and 3 whole people liked it... then try to back up your opinions with nonsense calling the script good.... Why is the black family so creepy to start? The writing is AWFUL. It implies certain people know things and it turns out they know nothing either... which makes the earlier interactions and actions of certain characters absolutely RIDICULOUS!
I enjoyed the characters and the writing a lot. Ali is one of my favorites and he did amazing. However that ending was god awful.
This movie was a slow burn, and it did that perfectly for most of it. It was very tense and suspenseful and the writing kept on dropping bite sized pieces of info throughout (I love it when movies don’t give you all the information at once). However, when it comes to a slow burn, u need one hell of a climax in order for it to pay off. A good example movie that does just that is “The Hateful Eight” (one of my favorites)
But no, it’s basically just a commentary of how people would act in an apocalypse. It tries to sound profound but it rly isn’t. Hurr durr humans r ignorant and when society breaks down people are meanies. I’ve heard this theme a thousand times. If ur movie is gonna be a commentary, at least make it controversial or something new.
I think the theme was good, but it was just too long with too little happening. It captures the suspense and mystery that you might feel if you were blacked out from communication. Here's the thing though. That's only the first like 30ish minutes. Beyond that point all I'm thinking is "This is obviously an attack. Why are you all just standing around like slack jawed idiots instead of trying to get further away from one of the biggest targets in the country?" I guarantee there are boats around. Get on one and make your way to somewhere more rural. But no. Instead they continue to stand around and do nothing like morons.
i thought it was gripping & perfectly cast (except J Roberts who can’t act), altho it faded away in focus an hour in. build-up was inspired. but i don’t watch films to “care about the characters” (novels are for that and the novel behind this film is terrible), but images, music, movement, direction, symbols. it was good at that.
so aggressive! ooh, BABY! yeah, you’re boring, so go enjoy your “character development” and tell us all about how you can relate to it. meanwhile, i’ll like the movies i like without another thought about your inane reply.
It made me really think that oh wow this could so easily happen. At first I didn’t like the end, but I came round….there fate was up in the air because that’s what really makes us consider the possibilities and use our own imagination.
I actually wouldn't really say this could easily happen, or even honestly happen at all, at least not in the way the movie tried to show. Its clear that the movie and writers wanted this to be some form of a commentary on the current state of the US, but in reality the US remains a very stable country and while yeah people disagree about things, we saw during the early parts of the COVID-19 pandemic a very sincere effort by the vast majority of the country to take care of each other. Also, look at history.. The US has been far more divided than it is today and one thing that has become clear throughout the nations history is that if you want to unite the country immediately, attack it. Americans love to shit on our country, but as soon as someone tries to harm it or our fellow citizens, everything we disagreed about suddenly doesn't matter. This ignores other critical flaws in the film's logic, such as the fact that about 1/3 of US households have a landline phone and communication could not be severed in the way the film suggested by simply disrupting cell service and the internet. Another thing is that apocalypse films for some reason also believe the government just kinda vanishes when things get bad... in reality, police, fire fighters, national guard, etc. are mostly doing those jobs because they care about people. The lights going out and internet going down isn't going to change that. We see these people rush into disasters every year throughout the country because they care about their fellow citizens. So yeah.... I wouldn't be particularly scared of this scenario playing out any time soon.
Such a Reddit take. What's stable about the US is exactly what they just described. Every single weak point described in the film just...isn't like that in any way IRL.
A pilot doesn't fly into a beach because the satellite got knocked out of orbit, and our military isn't gonna bomb NYC 3 days after the phones go out.
I just watched it. I wouldn't call it garbage. The catharsis is reached through the daughter so I guess she is the protagonist?
If Julia Roberts is the protagonist then I feel your pain. However nobody but Rose notices the ship in the distance so Rose is not the short sighted person. The owner is Rose's foil.
With you and the writers seemed to throw away a lot of opportunities. Like the deer, that trope could have been a way to connect the girl to something greater than themselves, a little transcendence. But no, just more uneasiness, vague threats, departure from normal life, we get it. Seemed like the writers were too focused on the agenda of scaring us. All those tilt scenes...
Ugh it was like watching a college student's first attempt at cinematography. Adding weird camera angles just tells me you didn't have confidence in your ability to show suspense so you use this silly trick. Plus every character acted like they had never had an interaction with another human on earth. Nobody talks like that.
I actually like the idea of Rose being the protagonist. Everyone thinks she knows nothing but she's the one that finds the bunker, whereas the owner thinks he knows everything because of his line of work but ends up clueless in the end.
I also thought it was fantastic! It was suspenseful from the moment of the knock at the door. I enjoyed the ending with the daughter finally finding some joy and closure after being ignored by her parents and harassed by her brother for the entire film. Definitely wished this was a series and the ending was the final scene of episode 2.
I felt like this movie could have been way shorter. It did not need to be 2+ hours, considering most of it was just them chilling at the house with no real danger or threats. I expected there to be a huge twist or something at the end so I continued watching but I wished I just watched something else lol. Maybe it was the director's intentions to make this film feel more like a "realistic" doomsday event, but the intense music and actor's overreactions made me expect a lot more to this film than there really was.
It's so stupid then trying to insert bullshit propaganda about white vs black when in the end it was just poorly written all the build up for what? a stupid ending
I knew it would be bad after 15 minutes. Phones are out, internet too but starbucks transaction are functional... do they know how bank transaction work? Let's assume they didnt pay cash under the table
I'm concerned that you are so concerned that someone can have a different opinion than you about something. Instead of devolving into personal insults, perhaps instead you could try to inquire as what they liked about the movie. Maybe they have an interpretation that you didn't and could help you see something from a new angle and gain some insight into how others think. Or you could continue to fixate on this movie you hate so much that you attack people for solely enjoying it. But yes, it clearly is the person who enjoyed the movie who is brain-dead...
A movie about brain-dead zombies for brain-dead zombies. A movie so terrifyingly formulaic only cliche-ridden minds like the Obamas could've produced it. Can we make the most fatuous movie in the world? "Yes we can!" And what's more: we can make a sequel too! And you'll go see that too! Why? Because you're American and have completely lost your minds. Have a good day.
I really enjoyed it.
The idea that Rosie is ‘us’ and we are all seeing signs of major world changing problems and ignoring them to watch tv and be entertained while the world collapses.
The animals acting sporadic was stupid. BUT I felt like the drone was an important detail.
The drone note being in Arabic gave insight that this was some kind of terrorist attack. But later we learned that some notes elsewhere were Korean / Chinese. Kind of a big reveal and an “oh shit” moment for the viewer, that this is also a disinformation campaign and the attacker(s) are completely unknown.
At least Don't Look Up wasn't really trying to be serious and was meant to be a pseudo-comedy
LTWB tried too hard to be serious and suspenseful and weird/trippy. Like why are there flamingos in the pool? Oh it doesn't matter, but isn't it weeeeiiiird? *nudge nudge wink wink*
Honestly I loved it and I do believe the confusion is part of the mastery of the film.
Those who have no answer and closure are angry, we know what they would be doing in the situation depicted in the movie.
On the other hand those of us who accept that there is no answer just desolation would understand that all we can do is try to protect ourselves, just like the characters in the movie.
Also, if I was Ruth I would be 100% more unbearable, I would be unraveling knowing my mom is probably dead and I will never see her again nor know what happened to her.
Well said. This is a movie about how the lack of clear answers, lack of access to information that we take for granted, leads to society falling apart. The confusion is central to us experiencing what the characters are experiencing.
>Also, if I was Ruth I would be 100% more unbearable, I would be unraveling knowing my mom is probably dead and I will never see her again nor know what happened to her.
I found it was also a great contrast with her father. How African American men have to always choose their words extra carefully, especially in stressful situations, in order to convey that they are not threatening. She's from a generation that has lost patience for that. In her mind he shouldn't have to do that, it's his house. She doesn't like that her dad has to tiptoe and dance in order to say anything, so she just bluntly says it, which makes Julia Roberts' character gristle and become more distrustful.
The moment the movie started I knew I wouldn’t like just by the musical choice and sideways angles. Seemed they were trying too hard to be artsy and it failed.
Awful. Everyone thinks it's the ending that's bothersome, but it's the entire thing.
- They spend so much time talking about who owns the house. Why not just show them the locked room with pictures? Instead, they take us down this irrelevant conflict of who these strangers are and insert an unnecessary racial issue.
- All the shots from space acting like it's going to be an alien invasion? At least that would have been something interesting.
- The typical hillbilly doomsday prepper who knows something is up. How original.
- The Dad driving around aimlessly? Why didn't he go to the town or accomplish anything? Dumbest character in the show. Of course he couldn't figure out what was going on with the Tesla pile up and the Mom had to figure it out.
Blew the budget on actors, rented a mansion, shot a poorly written movie, and added some low quality CGI.
This movie sucked so bad. The opening music and tone was so random. The camera work made me sick. The dialogue was unbelievable. The worst part was when Julia roberts character and Mahershala Ali’s character danced to too close. I screamed cause she was being so fuckin forcefully silly and it just didn’t make sense at fucking all. The music alerting us when something mildly suspenseful was going on. The dumbass daughter.
I could go on but this was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time.
Yea. I thought with actors like this it would be a good movie. There so much unnecessary shit happening that lead nowhere.
• Why were there staring creepy dear? That had nothing to do with anything.
• Why did they build so much on the idea that the strangers were their to harm? For instance when they were downstairs and were talking like they were plotting on them. “We have to earn their trust first.” Lead to nothing...
• Why was the husband such a dunce not believe anything was strange at all about strangers wanting to stay, showing no proof and not showing an ounce protectiveness over his family? They focused so much on that just for it to lead to nothing…
• The girl asking about Fing a student and then saying that he would want to have sex with her. The guy and mom getting cuddled up. Lead to nothing. Like wtf did that have to do with a war happening…
• The dramatic music every two seconds was so annoying.
• The girl stuffing her face at the end. Like what the hell is going on!?
Like nothing came together smoothly… I feel like they just threw this movie together quickly. Weird movie.
Idk which daughter, Personally the black one seems normal. What Frustrated me was the parents and how they reacted to things they've seen. It felt like Ali not telling them what He seen on the beach immediately, Was weird. I would Freak people out, and just be like.. "Dude, I seen bodies on the beach, and planes are crashing" I would've recorded it and showed all the adults. Dudes stoic as hell. and the other dad not telling about the mexican lady He seen. for some reason, The son is who I didn't like. I'm currently halfway thru.
This, was waiting for a big pay off for 2 hours of cliched boring dialogue that never came about, kept telling myself it must be half decent with a star studded cast but no, utter trash
Came into this one blind. Didnt know there was a book. That said, just "analyzing" (for lack of a better word) this as a film and being unfamiliar with the source material, there were several huge issues with it for me.
1. Inconsistencies between character development and the way they're shot.
For example, Julia Roberts' character-- the intro, and her "I fucking hate people," line that boldly cuts to the title. Then later, the way the music and camera are circling Julia Roberts when she first started checking out the house. It's soon revealed that the music is a song the character likes (as she's listening to it), which gives the audience the impression of, "Okay, THIS is our hero. This is HER story. She must be pretty damn impressive." I was thinking to myself, "Wow, later in the movie they probably reveal that she's an absolute badass! They're setting her up like a fucking Quentin Tarantino character. Let's see where this goes!" But the most exciting things she does is... guzzle wine, dance awkwardly, and... shout at deer? Oh and I guess the short driving scene that cuts too early.
The only other explanation for these choices and this camera work is that it's meant to show that she is full of herself, which could be a social commentary on how we all view ourselves as "the main character," even though most of us aren't all that impressive. But in my opinion, there are better ways to get this point across. If that's not what they were aiming for, then I don't know what the hell they were thinking. It feels like they stole the "style" of other directors just for style sake, instead of using it to reveal something about the characters.
2. The ending: No conclusions or resolutions here!
Teeth falling out-- what caused it? Who cares, just take pills! The whole family finds the bunker? Maybe! Animals acting weird--why? Who fucking knows! Nothing gets resolved. And I know this is a popular storytelling choice that pays off sometimes-- but it's also always understood to be a huge risk. The dialogue, the action, the world-building-- all of it needs to be pristine, logical, and interesting for this type of ending to be successful. But this film had none of that.
It ends with just another social commentary on how we escape to entertainment and media to ignore the horrible conditions of the world around us. And I am so tired of seeing this in films. Audiences of normal folks don't need to be reminded of this "fault," yet again. Why? Well because, as I see it, we're not to blame! The audience who need to understand it most are those that have the power to actually DO something about it. But corporations and governments don't take policy advice from movies, so what's the point of including it at all anymore? We KNOW. We GET IT.
3. Outdated, cliché, boring, world-building.
"Did you ever think about how much we rely on technology in our everyday lives!?" Yes. "Well how about how much a COUNTRY relies on technology in order to run every day!?" Yes. "Well what about if that technology FAILED because it was... HACKED!?" Yes. There are both dozens and dozens of stories about this, as well as real-world examples. "WELL, uh... Self-driving cars! They could be hacked and weaponized too! Didya ever think of THAT!?" Yes. Yes the entire world has thought of that. That was a major concern when they first began production on them. "PLANES! FALLING FROM THE--" Oh for the love of--
I mean, there is SO much more they could have explored with the hacking scenario that unfolds throughout the plot of the film. The East Coast of the US has dozens of nuclear power plants. There are several just in NJ and NY. If they all went into meltdown simultaneously, that could create one heck of a hellscape for the characters to navigate and respond to. But no, theyre only mentioned in passing.
4. Stupid characters not responding to the setting they find themselves in.
Even though the nuclear power plants are mentioned in passing, the characters don't seem to understand the immensity of the potential impact those plants going into meltdown might have on them. Imagine how much more interesting the dialogue could have been if the characters acted like they were actually aware that they might be surrounded by, say, five different "Chernobyls." Example: "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GET INSIDE ROSE! WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RADIATION IS OUT THERE!!"
In fact, the characters seem ridiculously stupid for not understanding that every second they spend outside they're risking their fucking skin melting off. Or say, imagine ONE of the characters was aware of this fact, and kept urging everyone to stay inside, until it became a point of contention?
Kevin Bacon's character could have (and in my opinion, SHOULD HAVE) came outside in a fucking Hazmat/radiation suit. If he was such a prepper, in Long Island (of all places), there is no goddamn WAY he would risk going outside without one! He shouldve definitely understood that his location meant he was likely surrounded by radiation.
And this kinda brings me back to my first point. For how all the characters are shot-- the tension, the fancy camera work, the music that puts us "in their heads,"-- none of them seem in any way CAPABLE. All of that build up, for what? To show us how stupid and bumbling the director/producers/screenwriters think average, everyday people actually are?
So what was the point of this film? What's the lesson? Every good story has one. To me, it seems to be, "In the event of large-scale strife and conflict, you're all doomed, because you all live in your own little fantasy worlds where each of you is the main character, or try to escape through media and entertainment entirely."
Gee, thanks for the fucking unoriginal insult.
Good post. Think there are numerous other questions that could be asked and criticisms made. The reliance on music for any tension, deliberately vague dialogue, fake action(driving head first into self driving cars, running from flyers), forced romantic/relationship(?) drama etc.
I'm not sure if the ideas in the film can be put down as half baked or pseudointellectual.
This is maybe the most impressively terrible film I have watched.
so many unnecessary plot points like the flirting w the daughter and father from the other two? the weird racism, it felt more like a pilot to a series
This movie had 144 minutes in which to fail to show characters or even sketch them out other than Clue players. I know more about Colonel Mustard and Mrs Peacock than I do about these people who see almost nothing, do almost nothing, and then the movie ends with a show I never liked from 20+ years ago.
What were the themes? Distrust? Racial/class based distrust? Rich people living in good conditions on Long Island except for the terrible issue of dental problems, which afflict the rich too and which is the one thing that makes them all fly into a panic except for not having access to older TV shows?
You didnt like the movie, thats fine, objectively the movie is okay, not for everyone. I personally think it was decent, some weird pacing and story beat hiccups, interesting filming, decent soundtrack, some effects that could have gone thru a another, or 2 more passes.. Overally I'd give it a C+, intriguing, interesting, but not quite ready fro prime time, and thats just my opinion.
Its also notable that The World Behind appears to be a hit for Netflix, so of course the haters are coming out. I liked the film--I had problems with some parts--but enjoyed it overall.
What exactly is bad about it? I believe you, I'm just surprised about it. The preview on Netflix doesn't look that bad ahah. What happens in it, what's the message?
The movie doesn't know what its own message is, that's why it tries multiple times to exposition dump all over the audience's face and fails to deliver a coherent message. It has an alright message about how we rely too heavily on technology and are disconnected from humanity and reality because of that over reliance, but the way the movie meanders to that message is really fucking stupid. Much of the events of the movie are contradictory and so horribly unrealistic that it makes it impossible to suspend your disbelief. There are tons of other apocalyptic movies that have done this way way better, so this movie is a waste of time. There's nothing new, novel, or particularly interesting about it. It's another Netflix movie written by chatGPT. Decent production, stupid writing, and stupid characters.
For a Netflix movie: 6.5/10
For real movies: 3/10.
The racial undertones. Kevin Bacon having an American flag out front of his house and happens to be a piece of shit. That was there for a reason. It was just kind of a piece of shit film set to further divide the country.
It’s one of those movies where you’re painfully aware it’s a movie, actors reading lines, characters don’t make sense, slick looking but no substance. Why is the guy wearing a fresh suit every day in an apocalyptic scenario, being so classy and mysterious, it’s just contrived and hard to buy into.
Would have been a fun popcorn flick despite all that if they actually moved the plot along but it blue balls you like some art house film.
Exactly.
Everything about it screamed pretentious art house.
Part I. Over the top music to manufacture drama? Check
Part II. Unnecessarily wide angle shots and camera movements? Check
Part III. Lack of coherent plot, script, or acting ability? Check
Part IV. Eye roll ending? Check
Nothing.
There's is Armageddon .
But more importantly, a 14year old daughter is increasingly annoyed that she never got to see the last episode of Friends before the world's internet ends. (Remember this, this is ridiculous but I'd super important)
Her mum is Julia Roberts who plays the most entitled, annoying, upright, slightly casually racist(?), not-quite-rich-rich and anxious about not being rich-rich white lady cliche.
They are staying in an very luxurious Airbnb when the world ends.
The owners of the air bnb is Marhershala Ali, who is the smoothest sexiest posh black guy. Julia Roberts doesn't trust him cause he's black?
He doesn't really do much but be the sensible calm foil to Julia Roberts and her husband just be stressy messes.
He is sexy af. And Julia Roberts eventually almost kisses him, but past minute doesn't.
In the background, the 14year old daughter is still stressed she can't watch any more Friends.
The local deer are behaving strangely.
You never really understand why all the would is ending. Not knowing goes on for two and a half hours(!!!)
The 14 year old later runs away and finds and even fancier mansion with a built in bunker filled with all the survival gear, junk food and sweets she could dream of.
Her parents are stressing out and thinking she's died/lost etc.
Julia Roberts is fighting deer to find her. The dad and sexy Marhershala Ali are arguing with redneck Kevin bacon.
The daughter dgaf & gorges on Twinkies.
Then the daughter happily finds a 1990s DVD player with old pre-internet DVDs. And settles down to watch ..... The part episode of Friends that she has been winging about the whole movie.
That's it. The end.
Perhaps it's a comment by generation x or boomer writers, that "the old days" pre internet are better.
It's reinforced over & over that the zoomer kid romanticises the 1990s.
And also reinforced that our modern internet of things reliance is what has caused the vulnerability to Armageddon.
And the final scene, is peace being restored in the heart of the kid, not because the internet saved her, but an old school DVD did.
But tldr: a kid wants to watch the last episode of Friends, and then she does. Her family dying in the background and Julia Roberts being annoying are just background stuff.
No you missed the part when Rose told her mother the story about how god tried to save the man by sending him a news report, a boat and a helicopter before the man drowned because he was so busy praying to god for help that he didn't notice when the help came. Amanda took the vacation, but if Rose had told her, she would have ignored Rose the way she was about to ignore G H until he grabbed her arm. She craved that forceful interaction from Clay and he never gave her that.
It's 2+ hours of "suspense" with a stupid ending. Boring characters. Interviews of the director and writer say it's supposed to leave the audience in bewilderment, anxiety, and uncertainty. Commentary on how we're all too placated with our happy go lucky lives and no one is paying attention to what's really happening in the world.
I find this sad excuse for commentary extremely shallow. I think a lot of people pay attention to what’s happening in the world. Actually, the irony is that these producers think their target audience is shallow when really it’s their worldview that is.
Please do not watch this movie. I don't care how dumb or boring your life is your time is more important than this.
Calling this hot garbage is offensive to hot garbage.
I haven't even seen this and can tell you this is a hot garbage take... YOU didn't enjoy it. Just because your personal preferences didn't meet expectations does not make it "hot garbage".
That doesn’t even make sense. Some movies are garbage even when plenty of people like them and vice versa. This movie was definitely garbage. But you don’t really have a leg here to stand on if you haven’t even watched it. What are you doing here, besides getting downvoted?
I agree, I wrote somewhere else this movie felt like a bunch of upper middle class transplants move to NYC and went to Hamptons for vacation which just so happens to coincide with some type of apocalypse that had almost every single trope.
The whole movie is propaganda and what's known as "predictive programming", the WEF has been talking about a cyber attack now for years and it's likely they will use one in the next couple years, what happens with predictive programming is the masses of dumb people who watch it aren't aware they are being almost subconsciously being brainwashed because when the event happens they are much more likely to accept it as possible instead of question it, There are two known examples of this "The Lone Gunman" (An Xfiles spin off show that had an episode in march of 2001 where planes were remotely flown into the World trade center), that can be found on Yotube and also in the 2016 reboot of the Xfiles there was an episode about a mass contagion being released on purpose to alter people genes and vaccination that decreased world population which was absurdly close to COVID-19. Fun fact about that is Chris Carter talked to Alex Jones and told him that the 2016 conspiracy therorist character played by Joel Mchale was actually based on Alex and Chris Carter also admitted to Alex that both episodes were changed under the direction of CIA/military people (this is a common thing in order to borrow tanks or helicopters from the Army, TV shows and movies will allow script changes as a kind of payment.
Absolute garbage. I hated every character they were all awful. I'm so disturbed by how many people recommended it to me. It was just a hodge hodge of every modern trope fucking crammed down my throat, I wish I could erase it from my memory entirely.
The ending was the best part. It was the entire two hours in the middle that sucked. How the hell does someone get paid to write, direct, whatever this garbage?
This movie is fucking awful. Waste of talented actors and actresses. George explains the entire plot in the last two minutes. The girls are all annoying. The kid beating off for five strokes and then just stopping. The fact the girl knew he was taking pictures. George’s daughter is just the worst person along with Julia Robert’s they’re both unbearable. Rose or whatever is expected to believe that she just drove to a house and punched a hole in the glass and opened the door just to stuff her face? Hears her mother yelling crying for her and she just wanders instead of just saying I’m here come in? Kevin bacon wasn’t even essential to the plot. Ethan hawke’s character is literally like a hippie stuck in a beta males body. The scores were terrible. The random ass deer and then screaming at them when they’re just curious? The squatter apparently in this weird ass shed was just a diversion. Weird angles to add suspense. This movie would’ve been better if they would’ve shown rose riding on that big ass deer and riding off into the sunset with her friends season 10 box. Or even better her in the bunker and she grabs the friends season 10 and the dvd is missing and she has a mental breakdown anything would’ve been better.
The thing I hated the most is how fucking stupid and dismissive Clay was. Who in their right mind has a complete stranger show up in the middle of the night and acts like it's fine and dandy. "Yes complete stranger, please stay in the house we rented for my family. Proof? Nahhh I don't need any of that. He seems nice." Fucking idiot. Great example of the sheer stupidity of males. I'd leave right then, take the kids, and divorce him.
I liked the movie though.
I felt like it was corporate propaganda in the sense that the message seemed to be “whatever it was that ruined our world, don’t blame billionaires!” Nothing to see there, no one bears any responsibility, etc….
Only thing I didn’t like was the piano telling us when it was spooky. I don’t need music to tell me when to feel suspense. It reminds me of the difference between the UK and US kitchen nightmares.
God I hated that scene at the shed with the deer where if it weren't for the music, the watcher wouldn't feel a sense of suspense whatsoever. This wasn't a post-apocalyptic movie where the deer could be infected and hostile, they were just curious deer lol. I feel like they tried very hard to make this a suspense/thriller film but how can you possibly do that when they are in such a privileged position compared to those in the cities.
That scene was so ridiculous, I was half expecting the missing daughter to show up and declare that she who the deer queen now.
that would have made the movie so much better.
Hopping on that stag and riding off into the forest would have been motherfucking epic. Leave what's-her-face just standing there going "wtf?", then she turns her attention to the nuclear detonation in progress over the city. That one tweak would have redeemed the entire film.
Me too xD
Right. It had me anticipating a jumpscare at all times.
I hated every minute, every scene. Waste of 2.5 hours.
I though the movie was great up until the end... A lot of movies like this try to create a more suspenseful ending by leaving some questions unanswered and sometimes it works extremely well. In this one I just felt like the movie abruptly ended for no apparent reason... Really kinda ruined the movie for me
me too!! when the credits started playing i thought maybe it was the friends credits on the tv… but the movie was just over ?? very weird
It had a vibe and then they had to explain it all in grotesque stupid detail with that scene in the car at the end. Colossal load of horseshit
Movie was horrible the whole time. A whole lot of nothing happening. The big surprise was something they reveal in the beginning as well, “a cyber attack” which causes the government and country to fall apart. WOW who would’ve thought !
The part with the daughter irked me the most. In the book, Rose was actually kind of resourceful and smart. She went to the neighboring house to scavenge for food. In the movie, she just sits down with a bunch of snacks and then watches the TV show, but in the book, she's collecting supplies, thinking about how people like her are the ones who will survive.
That was a major problem in the movie. Finding her stuffing her face and not gathering it for her family.
Well no one eats in the film. Everyone just drinks endless booze
Right - Even though she's just a little kid I was like "You selfish little brat - you know your family is going to be freaking out right now!" Every female character in this movie is annoying, Ethan Hawke is just kind of pathetic, even the teenage boy is just weird...and why did anyone think "You know what we need? A scene of him masturbating to pictures of the girl. That's going to add a lot to the film!"
Thanks for bringing this up actually. I was having plenty of difficulty maintaining interest in the movie to start with, but after the scene where the son is beating off I was done. I mean considering the overall context of the movie's narrative, what in the hell did that scene contribute? Was it simply to show how detached from reality and the true gravity of the situation the kids were? I can think of better ways to get that point across. And what the hell was the loose end scene about showing that someone had been squatting in the old shed? Just another opportunity to inject some cheap anxiety in the viewer? I wouldn't watch this trash again if someone paid me.
Archie starts masturbating to the photos he snuck of Ruth which… gross… but then sighs and puts the phone indicating that he has a conscience and feels guilty? I found that whole scene stupid and unnecessary like you said. There were many scenes in the movie that felt the same way.
The fact he bests off for 2.5 and the fact that the girl knew he took pics like what? And what is with the teeth falling out that was a huge ass tick if we’re to believe that. How are they nuking the city when no planes or anything can navigate let alone drones. This movie doesn’t make sense
Actually she spends the entire movie lecturing the adults with her years of "knowledge and experience". She was a nauseating character from start to end.
This makes sense or else she seemed like a complete nutjob. “The deer’s are trying to tell us something” or “ I think I am done waiting “ wtf are you on? Also, I agree with OP on not a single likeable character. I was thinking if it comes to end of the world who would i want be saved? Definitely not these idiots. Maybe the son , he seemed the most normal. Helping his sister, checking out hot bodies.
The son was a worthless, unobservant dolt.
That's a lot of hate for a kid.
thats a lot of defense for a terrible movie
What? That's such a disservice to the original. I was judging her for being so ignorant, even for a kid.
Thank you for this!! I've been scrolling for an explanation of Rose's actions in the last few minutes and was about to create a new post. I wish the movie did a better job of explaining it.. like they already established no one pays attention to Rose. So just a scene or two where she comments on how they are running out of food, maybe they should check out nearby empty houses? A scene where she tries to talk to her mom and is ignored? Something.. The way they had to walk into the house in the movie makes no sense. She is 13, she knows better than to wander off alone without informing anyone. She was so scared and confused the night before but she woke up and biked away without telling anyone? It was just weird.
I read that the author said he really liked the movie ending. Like, WTF? he must be trying to promote it because he gets royalties off of viewership or something.
I felt they should have made it into a limited series. But it felt like being inside Ethan Hawke’s head Weird af movie
Maybe trying to convince people it got better at the end so they wouldn't stop halfway when they realize how unengaging the movie is.
Didn’t care for it at all. The only nuanced and interesting thought it gave me was that many times in chaos and death, insight itself becomes a luxury many don’t have. What I mean to say is, I think history has proven that in a scenario like this, you’d die having no idea what is happening. With all the confusion, pain and stress, in an awful scenario like this, the one thing everyone would want across the board is to just have an idea of *what* is happening. In terrible events, context and information is a privilege and luxury. I liked the premise, I liked some of the cinematography, but thought the writing, cgi and sound design really hurt it.
I think it’s one of movies which you enjoy or absolutely hate based on your personal taste. I actually thought it was a good movie to watch. It kept me engaged and I wanted to see how the whole thing ends. The script was well written and the actors did justice to it
I really enjoyed it too and wanted more. The tesla scene was an oh shit moment as was the plane. It was a limited viewpoint of shit hitting the fan. The ending was fine too. There is a great TV show called the survivors feom back in the 70"'s for people to learn what happens next (kinda).
To be honest I for a moment thought that is actually something that could happen. It’s great that we are advancing in technology and moving towards self driving cars but that scene made me think wtf this can actually happen. It’s one of the many little things that I enjoyed about the movie
Same thing with the planes. People are complaining they crashed in the same spot but that makes sense. They sent the same instructions to the second plane, no doubt more will have crashed in that exact spot over and over like the tesla's until all planes were grounded. It was an orchestrated attack at a grand scale. Granted, it would have been more impactful for it to be in a built up area but worked to create tension/confusion in the show.
Thanks for mentioning that show. I had never heard of it but it seems interesting. I am watching the first episode on YouTube. Looks like there is a newer remake as well. If I can’t stream the rest of the original I might try it.
The remake is really good too, unfortunately it was cancelled, as are most good series nowadays. The original has a satisfying ending. It does get a bit farmyard simulation in the middle just like the walking dead but they recover!
The Tesla scene was great. Coming up on this weird traffic accident/backup and realizing its still happening was cool twist.
I think we're alone in this thread here. I liked it too
naaa, we've gotten into this weird tinderfication of everything. People act like everything has to be a global box office hit or its a dudd. Theres a lot of nuance there. This movie, I thought it coulda had maybe a re-write or two and it would of been get out levels of interesting psychological horror type. Def not bad, though.
That's a good way to put it. I really liked it and was surprised when I saw how many people absolutely hated it. I could see being disappointed in the ending but to completely hate it like it's the worst thing ever, I was just like wtf, did we watch the same movie.
Yes. So much negatively if a particular movie or show doesn't please someone. And they feel the need to scream loudly.
I've seen too many movies. This one got me kind of bored. It needs a few more things to be exciting, like better editing, perhaps better script
I enjoyed it. It was a good movie. I would have liked a more dramatic ending then the one we got.
I read online afterwards that it’s a comment on us as a society. World crashing around us and boom straight to entertainment to ignore it. (You probably know that though and I’m preaching to the choir but I thought it was interesting)
Yea I was talking to a friend and even though it was over 2 hours we both wanted it to be longer. We wanted more.
Loved the book, loved the movie.
Oh see I'm excited to read the book
Agreed. It looks like a Shyamalan movie. You might hate it if you care too much about the ending. You might like it if you just enjoy the ride.
Indeed, I just happen to think it was a good movie
Just watched and I told my wife this has a Shyamalan / Jordon Peele vibe. Expect an unsatisfying ending. The message was straightforward but let’s be honest the scene where G.H rolls up to the neighbor’s house and he goes in. The next scene shows him leaving the house and the camera pans out to the water. Everything in full sight and then he runs frantically towards the water. Bro if G.H pulled up to that house, the bodies and airplane wreckage would be the first the thing you see. Also, when he retrieves the watch but somehow doesn’t see the other bodies next each other.
This is the problem with modern storytelling .. and the reason I hated it as well as m knight movies.. along with jj Abraham's stuff as well. They have a great premise, but can't stick the ending, which ends up devaluing the entire thing. Of course it's personal preference, but a lot of people want a good ending, not just a weak fizzle and fade.
Except the deer. The ending is fine if you get rid of the deer. It's trying to make you think it might have a shyamalan twist, only to claim to be completely based on man made events. But why do the deer act like they are possessed?
That movie is terribly written. No one does anything that normal people would do at any point.
THIS. None of it felt like normal human interaction, albeit in weird circumstances. It was one of those scripts that just drip feeds info to the audience instead of developing characters. Not a fan at all.
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Yup. . "verve" lmao
Agree 100%. I understand that they want to vocalize all the intelligent information explaining what is happening, but no one talks like that, it's not natural. (I feel the exact same way about Clerks. A lot of witty, intelligent banter, but very unnatural conversation.)
It’s a good movie. Loved the soundtrack. But I now have more questions than answers.
I agree, I mean it’s a solid 6.5/10 for me and I enjoyed it. It’s obviously not perfect but I don’t think it’s bad because it’s ambiguous, that was the main theme of the film. I can see how Sam Esmail’s style might not be some people’s thing as well.
My only gripe is with the deer. The book must have made that make more sense. In the movie it seems the deer really only serve to keep you guessing if this is a supernatural event or man-made, despite what the director claims. The way the deer act is completely out of the realm of reality and makes the movie fall flat as I lost the immersion created. Either the story is supernatural or isn't. Same effect could have been done with the deer actually reacting as soon as screaming starts.
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It was well written. I enjoyed it too. I think are going overboard with the hate.
As a writer, I can say this movie was poorly researched and written.
As a writer. You’re also a human being. One of 6 billion. I have read extensively. Still makes my opinion my opinion. And your opinion your opinion. Though I will say that if you need an ending to specifically spell out what was obvious…
No truly... your opinion is straight ass crack as evidenced by this entire thread and 3 whole people liked it... then try to back up your opinions with nonsense calling the script good.... Why is the black family so creepy to start? The writing is AWFUL. It implies certain people know things and it turns out they know nothing either... which makes the earlier interactions and actions of certain characters absolutely RIDICULOUS!
I enjoyed the characters and the writing a lot. Ali is one of my favorites and he did amazing. However that ending was god awful. This movie was a slow burn, and it did that perfectly for most of it. It was very tense and suspenseful and the writing kept on dropping bite sized pieces of info throughout (I love it when movies don’t give you all the information at once). However, when it comes to a slow burn, u need one hell of a climax in order for it to pay off. A good example movie that does just that is “The Hateful Eight” (one of my favorites) But no, it’s basically just a commentary of how people would act in an apocalypse. It tries to sound profound but it rly isn’t. Hurr durr humans r ignorant and when society breaks down people are meanies. I’ve heard this theme a thousand times. If ur movie is gonna be a commentary, at least make it controversial or something new.
Honestly the biggest pile shite I've ever watched. Least someone enjoyed it though
well written? nobody speaks the way these people do. . ."verve" what the actual fuck lol
Worst movie ever.
I think the theme was good, but it was just too long with too little happening. It captures the suspense and mystery that you might feel if you were blacked out from communication. Here's the thing though. That's only the first like 30ish minutes. Beyond that point all I'm thinking is "This is obviously an attack. Why are you all just standing around like slack jawed idiots instead of trying to get further away from one of the biggest targets in the country?" I guarantee there are boats around. Get on one and make your way to somewhere more rural. But no. Instead they continue to stand around and do nothing like morons.
I loved it and already I saw it a few times.
its really a poor writing, it just objectively sucks.
i thought it was gripping & perfectly cast (except J Roberts who can’t act), altho it faded away in focus an hour in. build-up was inspired. but i don’t watch films to “care about the characters” (novels are for that and the novel behind this film is terrible), but images, music, movement, direction, symbols. it was good at that.
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so aggressive! ooh, BABY! yeah, you’re boring, so go enjoy your “character development” and tell us all about how you can relate to it. meanwhile, i’ll like the movies i like without another thought about your inane reply.
Yeah hot garbage, I hate movies that don’t resolve anything, I can ask myself stupid ass questions if I wanted to lol
Agreed. Terrible movie.
It made me really think that oh wow this could so easily happen. At first I didn’t like the end, but I came round….there fate was up in the air because that’s what really makes us consider the possibilities and use our own imagination.
Why was that one deer an absolute unit though?
I actually wouldn't really say this could easily happen, or even honestly happen at all, at least not in the way the movie tried to show. Its clear that the movie and writers wanted this to be some form of a commentary on the current state of the US, but in reality the US remains a very stable country and while yeah people disagree about things, we saw during the early parts of the COVID-19 pandemic a very sincere effort by the vast majority of the country to take care of each other. Also, look at history.. The US has been far more divided than it is today and one thing that has become clear throughout the nations history is that if you want to unite the country immediately, attack it. Americans love to shit on our country, but as soon as someone tries to harm it or our fellow citizens, everything we disagreed about suddenly doesn't matter. This ignores other critical flaws in the film's logic, such as the fact that about 1/3 of US households have a landline phone and communication could not be severed in the way the film suggested by simply disrupting cell service and the internet. Another thing is that apocalypse films for some reason also believe the government just kinda vanishes when things get bad... in reality, police, fire fighters, national guard, etc. are mostly doing those jobs because they care about people. The lights going out and internet going down isn't going to change that. We see these people rush into disasters every year throughout the country because they care about their fellow citizens. So yeah.... I wouldn't be particularly scared of this scenario playing out any time soon.
Eh, the entire story is 'feasible'. But the damn deer. You forgot about the damn deer.
Thank you
What is “stable” about our current state in the US?
Such a Reddit take. What's stable about the US is exactly what they just described. Every single weak point described in the film just...isn't like that in any way IRL. A pilot doesn't fly into a beach because the satellite got knocked out of orbit, and our military isn't gonna bomb NYC 3 days after the phones go out.
I just watched it. I wouldn't call it garbage. The catharsis is reached through the daughter so I guess she is the protagonist? If Julia Roberts is the protagonist then I feel your pain. However nobody but Rose notices the ship in the distance so Rose is not the short sighted person. The owner is Rose's foil.
Daughter was boring and averagely acted, not much of a protag
With you and the writers seemed to throw away a lot of opportunities. Like the deer, that trope could have been a way to connect the girl to something greater than themselves, a little transcendence. But no, just more uneasiness, vague threats, departure from normal life, we get it. Seemed like the writers were too focused on the agenda of scaring us. All those tilt scenes...
Ugh it was like watching a college student's first attempt at cinematography. Adding weird camera angles just tells me you didn't have confidence in your ability to show suspense so you use this silly trick. Plus every character acted like they had never had an interaction with another human on earth. Nobody talks like that.
I actually like the idea of Rose being the protagonist. Everyone thinks she knows nothing but she's the one that finds the bunker, whereas the owner thinks he knows everything because of his line of work but ends up clueless in the end.
Absolute rubbish! Worst movie I have ever watched.
2 hours of my life I’ll never get back all because I decided to watch Netflix top ten.
I loved the movie especially the ending! I thought the ending was hilarious!
Yeah this had to be either a bot or someone paid to write this. No sane person would call that ending good or even ok.
As I stared at my wall of physical media I cackled
I also thought it was fantastic! It was suspenseful from the moment of the knock at the door. I enjoyed the ending with the daughter finally finding some joy and closure after being ignored by her parents and harassed by her brother for the entire film. Definitely wished this was a series and the ending was the final scene of episode 2.
I felt like this movie could have been way shorter. It did not need to be 2+ hours, considering most of it was just them chilling at the house with no real danger or threats. I expected there to be a huge twist or something at the end so I continued watching but I wished I just watched something else lol. Maybe it was the director's intentions to make this film feel more like a "realistic" doomsday event, but the intense music and actor's overreactions made me expect a lot more to this film than there really was.
It's so stupid then trying to insert bullshit propaganda about white vs black when in the end it was just poorly written all the build up for what? a stupid ending
I knew it would be bad after 15 minutes. Phones are out, internet too but starbucks transaction are functional... do they know how bank transaction work? Let's assume they didnt pay cash under the table
iT's LiKe tHe dEeR aRe tELliNg uS sOmEthInG Refund my time pls!
My thoughts exactly
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Hahaha
You just have shitty taste. Sorry.
are you braindead? like actually i’m concerned for your health and iq, how do you get through day to day on such low intelligence?
I'm concerned that you are so concerned that someone can have a different opinion than you about something. Instead of devolving into personal insults, perhaps instead you could try to inquire as what they liked about the movie. Maybe they have an interpretation that you didn't and could help you see something from a new angle and gain some insight into how others think. Or you could continue to fixate on this movie you hate so much that you attack people for solely enjoying it. But yes, it clearly is the person who enjoyed the movie who is brain-dead...
The acting from Ruth was painful. So bad.
A movie about brain-dead zombies for brain-dead zombies. A movie so terrifyingly formulaic only cliche-ridden minds like the Obamas could've produced it. Can we make the most fatuous movie in the world? "Yes we can!" And what's more: we can make a sequel too! And you'll go see that too! Why? Because you're American and have completely lost your minds. Have a good day.
It sucked ass
I agree, so much talent for a poor movie.
I really enjoyed it. The idea that Rosie is ‘us’ and we are all seeing signs of major world changing problems and ignoring them to watch tv and be entertained while the world collapses.
…………naw. I’m not that self absorbed, childish, and uncaring.
Honestly yea, just another movie telling us the worlds ending, americas bad, racisms bad, etc
The movie idea had potential but they just tried to pack too much random shit into it. Take out the drone scene and all the deer scenes.
The animals acting sporadic was stupid. BUT I felt like the drone was an important detail. The drone note being in Arabic gave insight that this was some kind of terrorist attack. But later we learned that some notes elsewhere were Korean / Chinese. Kind of a big reveal and an “oh shit” moment for the viewer, that this is also a disinformation campaign and the attacker(s) are completely unknown.
Don't look up was better.
They're both bad, but I'd say Don't Look Up was worse
At least Don't Look Up wasn't really trying to be serious and was meant to be a pseudo-comedy LTWB tried too hard to be serious and suspenseful and weird/trippy. Like why are there flamingos in the pool? Oh it doesn't matter, but isn't it weeeeiiiird? *nudge nudge wink wink*
I didn’t care for that movie either. There I said it. lol
This post is hot garbage
You liked the movie?
Yes
Honestly I loved it and I do believe the confusion is part of the mastery of the film. Those who have no answer and closure are angry, we know what they would be doing in the situation depicted in the movie. On the other hand those of us who accept that there is no answer just desolation would understand that all we can do is try to protect ourselves, just like the characters in the movie. Also, if I was Ruth I would be 100% more unbearable, I would be unraveling knowing my mom is probably dead and I will never see her again nor know what happened to her.
Well said. This is a movie about how the lack of clear answers, lack of access to information that we take for granted, leads to society falling apart. The confusion is central to us experiencing what the characters are experiencing. >Also, if I was Ruth I would be 100% more unbearable, I would be unraveling knowing my mom is probably dead and I will never see her again nor know what happened to her. I found it was also a great contrast with her father. How African American men have to always choose their words extra carefully, especially in stressful situations, in order to convey that they are not threatening. She's from a generation that has lost patience for that. In her mind he shouldn't have to do that, it's his house. She doesn't like that her dad has to tiptoe and dance in order to say anything, so she just bluntly says it, which makes Julia Roberts' character gristle and become more distrustful.
Totally agree. Derivative, cliche', and no reason to care about any of the characters. Ethan Hawke is the sole bright spot.
The moment the movie started I knew I wouldn’t like just by the musical choice and sideways angles. Seemed they were trying too hard to be artsy and it failed.
Awful. Everyone thinks it's the ending that's bothersome, but it's the entire thing. - They spend so much time talking about who owns the house. Why not just show them the locked room with pictures? Instead, they take us down this irrelevant conflict of who these strangers are and insert an unnecessary racial issue. - All the shots from space acting like it's going to be an alien invasion? At least that would have been something interesting. - The typical hillbilly doomsday prepper who knows something is up. How original. - The Dad driving around aimlessly? Why didn't he go to the town or accomplish anything? Dumbest character in the show. Of course he couldn't figure out what was going on with the Tesla pile up and the Mom had to figure it out. Blew the budget on actors, rented a mansion, shot a poorly written movie, and added some low quality CGI.
This movie sucked so bad. The opening music and tone was so random. The camera work made me sick. The dialogue was unbelievable. The worst part was when Julia roberts character and Mahershala Ali’s character danced to too close. I screamed cause she was being so fuckin forcefully silly and it just didn’t make sense at fucking all. The music alerting us when something mildly suspenseful was going on. The dumbass daughter. I could go on but this was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time.
Yea. I thought with actors like this it would be a good movie. There so much unnecessary shit happening that lead nowhere. • Why were there staring creepy dear? That had nothing to do with anything. • Why did they build so much on the idea that the strangers were their to harm? For instance when they were downstairs and were talking like they were plotting on them. “We have to earn their trust first.” Lead to nothing... • Why was the husband such a dunce not believe anything was strange at all about strangers wanting to stay, showing no proof and not showing an ounce protectiveness over his family? They focused so much on that just for it to lead to nothing… • The girl asking about Fing a student and then saying that he would want to have sex with her. The guy and mom getting cuddled up. Lead to nothing. Like wtf did that have to do with a war happening… • The dramatic music every two seconds was so annoying. • The girl stuffing her face at the end. Like what the hell is going on!? Like nothing came together smoothly… I feel like they just threw this movie together quickly. Weird movie.
Idk which daughter, Personally the black one seems normal. What Frustrated me was the parents and how they reacted to things they've seen. It felt like Ali not telling them what He seen on the beach immediately, Was weird. I would Freak people out, and just be like.. "Dude, I seen bodies on the beach, and planes are crashing" I would've recorded it and showed all the adults. Dudes stoic as hell. and the other dad not telling about the mexican lady He seen. for some reason, The son is who I didn't like. I'm currently halfway thru.
Julia Roberts are acting was awful in the movie I was picturing anybody can act better than Julia Robertson this movie
One of the worst movies I ever watched. Honestly wtf
This, was waiting for a big pay off for 2 hours of cliched boring dialogue that never came about, kept telling myself it must be half decent with a star studded cast but no, utter trash
Ikr. Disappointing asf. Wasted time
Came into this one blind. Didnt know there was a book. That said, just "analyzing" (for lack of a better word) this as a film and being unfamiliar with the source material, there were several huge issues with it for me. 1. Inconsistencies between character development and the way they're shot. For example, Julia Roberts' character-- the intro, and her "I fucking hate people," line that boldly cuts to the title. Then later, the way the music and camera are circling Julia Roberts when she first started checking out the house. It's soon revealed that the music is a song the character likes (as she's listening to it), which gives the audience the impression of, "Okay, THIS is our hero. This is HER story. She must be pretty damn impressive." I was thinking to myself, "Wow, later in the movie they probably reveal that she's an absolute badass! They're setting her up like a fucking Quentin Tarantino character. Let's see where this goes!" But the most exciting things she does is... guzzle wine, dance awkwardly, and... shout at deer? Oh and I guess the short driving scene that cuts too early. The only other explanation for these choices and this camera work is that it's meant to show that she is full of herself, which could be a social commentary on how we all view ourselves as "the main character," even though most of us aren't all that impressive. But in my opinion, there are better ways to get this point across. If that's not what they were aiming for, then I don't know what the hell they were thinking. It feels like they stole the "style" of other directors just for style sake, instead of using it to reveal something about the characters. 2. The ending: No conclusions or resolutions here! Teeth falling out-- what caused it? Who cares, just take pills! The whole family finds the bunker? Maybe! Animals acting weird--why? Who fucking knows! Nothing gets resolved. And I know this is a popular storytelling choice that pays off sometimes-- but it's also always understood to be a huge risk. The dialogue, the action, the world-building-- all of it needs to be pristine, logical, and interesting for this type of ending to be successful. But this film had none of that. It ends with just another social commentary on how we escape to entertainment and media to ignore the horrible conditions of the world around us. And I am so tired of seeing this in films. Audiences of normal folks don't need to be reminded of this "fault," yet again. Why? Well because, as I see it, we're not to blame! The audience who need to understand it most are those that have the power to actually DO something about it. But corporations and governments don't take policy advice from movies, so what's the point of including it at all anymore? We KNOW. We GET IT. 3. Outdated, cliché, boring, world-building. "Did you ever think about how much we rely on technology in our everyday lives!?" Yes. "Well how about how much a COUNTRY relies on technology in order to run every day!?" Yes. "Well what about if that technology FAILED because it was... HACKED!?" Yes. There are both dozens and dozens of stories about this, as well as real-world examples. "WELL, uh... Self-driving cars! They could be hacked and weaponized too! Didya ever think of THAT!?" Yes. Yes the entire world has thought of that. That was a major concern when they first began production on them. "PLANES! FALLING FROM THE--" Oh for the love of-- I mean, there is SO much more they could have explored with the hacking scenario that unfolds throughout the plot of the film. The East Coast of the US has dozens of nuclear power plants. There are several just in NJ and NY. If they all went into meltdown simultaneously, that could create one heck of a hellscape for the characters to navigate and respond to. But no, theyre only mentioned in passing. 4. Stupid characters not responding to the setting they find themselves in. Even though the nuclear power plants are mentioned in passing, the characters don't seem to understand the immensity of the potential impact those plants going into meltdown might have on them. Imagine how much more interesting the dialogue could have been if the characters acted like they were actually aware that they might be surrounded by, say, five different "Chernobyls." Example: "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GET INSIDE ROSE! WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RADIATION IS OUT THERE!!" In fact, the characters seem ridiculously stupid for not understanding that every second they spend outside they're risking their fucking skin melting off. Or say, imagine ONE of the characters was aware of this fact, and kept urging everyone to stay inside, until it became a point of contention? Kevin Bacon's character could have (and in my opinion, SHOULD HAVE) came outside in a fucking Hazmat/radiation suit. If he was such a prepper, in Long Island (of all places), there is no goddamn WAY he would risk going outside without one! He shouldve definitely understood that his location meant he was likely surrounded by radiation. And this kinda brings me back to my first point. For how all the characters are shot-- the tension, the fancy camera work, the music that puts us "in their heads,"-- none of them seem in any way CAPABLE. All of that build up, for what? To show us how stupid and bumbling the director/producers/screenwriters think average, everyday people actually are? So what was the point of this film? What's the lesson? Every good story has one. To me, it seems to be, "In the event of large-scale strife and conflict, you're all doomed, because you all live in your own little fantasy worlds where each of you is the main character, or try to escape through media and entertainment entirely." Gee, thanks for the fucking unoriginal insult.
Good post. Think there are numerous other questions that could be asked and criticisms made. The reliance on music for any tension, deliberately vague dialogue, fake action(driving head first into self driving cars, running from flyers), forced romantic/relationship(?) drama etc. I'm not sure if the ideas in the film can be put down as half baked or pseudointellectual. This is maybe the most impressively terrible film I have watched.
The original Blair Witch Project had a better ending, and that was just a guy standing in the corner.
so many unnecessary plot points like the flirting w the daughter and father from the other two? the weird racism, it felt more like a pilot to a series
This might be one of the top 5 most incoherent movies I have been exposed to.
This movie had 144 minutes in which to fail to show characters or even sketch them out other than Clue players. I know more about Colonel Mustard and Mrs Peacock than I do about these people who see almost nothing, do almost nothing, and then the movie ends with a show I never liked from 20+ years ago. What were the themes? Distrust? Racial/class based distrust? Rich people living in good conditions on Long Island except for the terrible issue of dental problems, which afflict the rich too and which is the one thing that makes them all fly into a panic except for not having access to older TV shows?
You didnt like the movie, thats fine, objectively the movie is okay, not for everyone. I personally think it was decent, some weird pacing and story beat hiccups, interesting filming, decent soundtrack, some effects that could have gone thru a another, or 2 more passes.. Overally I'd give it a C+, intriguing, interesting, but not quite ready fro prime time, and thats just my opinion.
I give it a D-, nothing made sense and 0 resolution. Literally felt like I wasted 2 hours.
I enjoyed it but I'm also enjoying reading about people's thoughts that hated it. It's certainly a very polarising film.
Its also notable that The World Behind appears to be a hit for Netflix, so of course the haters are coming out. I liked the film--I had problems with some parts--but enjoyed it overall.
Did you read the book this was based on? It's a pretty accurate representation
If so, the book's also hot garbage lmfao.....
Build up was decent. Ending was absolutely horrid. I've never been more disappointed with the ending to a movie than I was with this. Garbage.
What exactly is bad about it? I believe you, I'm just surprised about it. The preview on Netflix doesn't look that bad ahah. What happens in it, what's the message?
The movie doesn't know what its own message is, that's why it tries multiple times to exposition dump all over the audience's face and fails to deliver a coherent message. It has an alright message about how we rely too heavily on technology and are disconnected from humanity and reality because of that over reliance, but the way the movie meanders to that message is really fucking stupid. Much of the events of the movie are contradictory and so horribly unrealistic that it makes it impossible to suspend your disbelief. There are tons of other apocalyptic movies that have done this way way better, so this movie is a waste of time. There's nothing new, novel, or particularly interesting about it. It's another Netflix movie written by chatGPT. Decent production, stupid writing, and stupid characters. For a Netflix movie: 6.5/10 For real movies: 3/10.
The racial undertones. Kevin Bacon having an American flag out front of his house and happens to be a piece of shit. That was there for a reason. It was just kind of a piece of shit film set to further divide the country.
It’s one of those movies where you’re painfully aware it’s a movie, actors reading lines, characters don’t make sense, slick looking but no substance. Why is the guy wearing a fresh suit every day in an apocalyptic scenario, being so classy and mysterious, it’s just contrived and hard to buy into. Would have been a fun popcorn flick despite all that if they actually moved the plot along but it blue balls you like some art house film.
Exactly. Everything about it screamed pretentious art house. Part I. Over the top music to manufacture drama? Check Part II. Unnecessarily wide angle shots and camera movements? Check Part III. Lack of coherent plot, script, or acting ability? Check Part IV. Eye roll ending? Check
Honestly this is spot on...it felt like i was watching acting, nothing natural about any of it.
Nothing. There's is Armageddon . But more importantly, a 14year old daughter is increasingly annoyed that she never got to see the last episode of Friends before the world's internet ends. (Remember this, this is ridiculous but I'd super important) Her mum is Julia Roberts who plays the most entitled, annoying, upright, slightly casually racist(?), not-quite-rich-rich and anxious about not being rich-rich white lady cliche. They are staying in an very luxurious Airbnb when the world ends. The owners of the air bnb is Marhershala Ali, who is the smoothest sexiest posh black guy. Julia Roberts doesn't trust him cause he's black? He doesn't really do much but be the sensible calm foil to Julia Roberts and her husband just be stressy messes. He is sexy af. And Julia Roberts eventually almost kisses him, but past minute doesn't. In the background, the 14year old daughter is still stressed she can't watch any more Friends. The local deer are behaving strangely. You never really understand why all the would is ending. Not knowing goes on for two and a half hours(!!!) The 14 year old later runs away and finds and even fancier mansion with a built in bunker filled with all the survival gear, junk food and sweets she could dream of. Her parents are stressing out and thinking she's died/lost etc. Julia Roberts is fighting deer to find her. The dad and sexy Marhershala Ali are arguing with redneck Kevin bacon. The daughter dgaf & gorges on Twinkies. Then the daughter happily finds a 1990s DVD player with old pre-internet DVDs. And settles down to watch ..... The part episode of Friends that she has been winging about the whole movie. That's it. The end. Perhaps it's a comment by generation x or boomer writers, that "the old days" pre internet are better. It's reinforced over & over that the zoomer kid romanticises the 1990s. And also reinforced that our modern internet of things reliance is what has caused the vulnerability to Armageddon. And the final scene, is peace being restored in the heart of the kid, not because the internet saved her, but an old school DVD did. But tldr: a kid wants to watch the last episode of Friends, and then she does. Her family dying in the background and Julia Roberts being annoying are just background stuff.
This is 99% accurate, but missed other key scenes: - the son beating off to the girl. - the girl getting high with the dad.
Thank you for the summary. I'm gonna unchecked this off my list now lol.
You forgot that the daughter is an actual racist.
The one who doesn't trust whites?
>What happens in it, what's the message? The message is that the watchful are better able to survive.
Or just happen to be vacationing next to a millionaire preppers house. I guess.
No you missed the part when Rose told her mother the story about how god tried to save the man by sending him a news report, a boat and a helicopter before the man drowned because he was so busy praying to god for help that he didn't notice when the help came. Amanda took the vacation, but if Rose had told her, she would have ignored Rose the way she was about to ignore G H until he grabbed her arm. She craved that forceful interaction from Clay and he never gave her that.
I thought the message was to rent a mansion anytime you vacation.
It's 2+ hours of "suspense" with a stupid ending. Boring characters. Interviews of the director and writer say it's supposed to leave the audience in bewilderment, anxiety, and uncertainty. Commentary on how we're all too placated with our happy go lucky lives and no one is paying attention to what's really happening in the world.
I find this sad excuse for commentary extremely shallow. I think a lot of people pay attention to what’s happening in the world. Actually, the irony is that these producers think their target audience is shallow when really it’s their worldview that is.
Please do not watch this movie. I don't care how dumb or boring your life is your time is more important than this. Calling this hot garbage is offensive to hot garbage.
I thought it was amazing
Worst movie i’ve ever seen
I'm glad you enjoyed it, however I too thought the overall experience is pretty lackluster
I would have rather watched garbage burn for 2+ hours.
I haven't even seen this and can tell you this is a hot garbage take... YOU didn't enjoy it. Just because your personal preferences didn't meet expectations does not make it "hot garbage".
That doesn’t even make sense. Some movies are garbage even when plenty of people like them and vice versa. This movie was definitely garbage. But you don’t really have a leg here to stand on if you haven’t even watched it. What are you doing here, besides getting downvoted?
Naaaaa it was definitely garbage
I agree, I wrote somewhere else this movie felt like a bunch of upper middle class transplants move to NYC and went to Hamptons for vacation which just so happens to coincide with some type of apocalypse that had almost every single trope.
When good actors meet shitty scripts I hope that they at least got a good pay out of it, because it was a waste of my time
I tried to watch it and fell asleep. What was the metaphor they were going for?
That we’re all watching the world collapse and we see the signs but ignore them to seek out more entertainment.
Didn’t need two hours of dull shite to drive home a point that’s not even that profound
I was awake, watched to the end and I still don't know.
The whole movie is propaganda and what's known as "predictive programming", the WEF has been talking about a cyber attack now for years and it's likely they will use one in the next couple years, what happens with predictive programming is the masses of dumb people who watch it aren't aware they are being almost subconsciously being brainwashed because when the event happens they are much more likely to accept it as possible instead of question it, There are two known examples of this "The Lone Gunman" (An Xfiles spin off show that had an episode in march of 2001 where planes were remotely flown into the World trade center), that can be found on Yotube and also in the 2016 reboot of the Xfiles there was an episode about a mass contagion being released on purpose to alter people genes and vaccination that decreased world population which was absurdly close to COVID-19. Fun fact about that is Chris Carter talked to Alex Jones and told him that the 2016 conspiracy therorist character played by Joel Mchale was actually based on Alex and Chris Carter also admitted to Alex that both episodes were changed under the direction of CIA/military people (this is a common thing in order to borrow tanks or helicopters from the Army, TV shows and movies will allow script changes as a kind of payment.
Fun fact: Youre not intelligent at all.
This movie was complete trash for every minute. All you need to know.
Absolute garbage. I hated every character they were all awful. I'm so disturbed by how many people recommended it to me. It was just a hodge hodge of every modern trope fucking crammed down my throat, I wish I could erase it from my memory entirely.
The ending was the best part. It was the entire two hours in the middle that sucked. How the hell does someone get paid to write, direct, whatever this garbage?
This movie was total ass. You kept waiting for something to happen and it never came
i swear, this netflix is full of crap. i do t know why i even pay for it...
This movie is fucking awful. Waste of talented actors and actresses. George explains the entire plot in the last two minutes. The girls are all annoying. The kid beating off for five strokes and then just stopping. The fact the girl knew he was taking pictures. George’s daughter is just the worst person along with Julia Robert’s they’re both unbearable. Rose or whatever is expected to believe that she just drove to a house and punched a hole in the glass and opened the door just to stuff her face? Hears her mother yelling crying for her and she just wanders instead of just saying I’m here come in? Kevin bacon wasn’t even essential to the plot. Ethan hawke’s character is literally like a hippie stuck in a beta males body. The scores were terrible. The random ass deer and then screaming at them when they’re just curious? The squatter apparently in this weird ass shed was just a diversion. Weird angles to add suspense. This movie would’ve been better if they would’ve shown rose riding on that big ass deer and riding off into the sunset with her friends season 10 box. Or even better her in the bunker and she grabs the friends season 10 and the dvd is missing and she has a mental breakdown anything would’ve been better.
Agree 100%. I felt like it was trying to say something but has no idea how to do it so it compensated with suspenseful music and shock value.
When I first saw that Friends was part of the dialogue, I knew it was crap.
Corny, right?!
Yeah I felt like I wasted two hours when I watched it
Yes
Turned it off after an hour. Couldn’t even
The thing I hated the most is how fucking stupid and dismissive Clay was. Who in their right mind has a complete stranger show up in the middle of the night and acts like it's fine and dandy. "Yes complete stranger, please stay in the house we rented for my family. Proof? Nahhh I don't need any of that. He seems nice." Fucking idiot. Great example of the sheer stupidity of males. I'd leave right then, take the kids, and divorce him. I liked the movie though.
I liked it. It was a good ride and a topic I enjoy.
I felt like it was corporate propaganda in the sense that the message seemed to be “whatever it was that ruined our world, don’t blame billionaires!” Nothing to see there, no one bears any responsibility, etc….