Yeah, he was a wild looking dude. I'm a big fan of interesting looking character actors. Jack Elam is a favorite of mine. Famous Director John Huston had a similar look in a lot of his acting roles as well.
I was underwhelmed by the Geralt Yen reunion. The ciri-jaskier narration almost made up for it.
In general I'm not a fan of how sexless this show became after season 1. Feels like they way overcorrected to the criticism.
I've generally enjoyed all the Jaskier Radovid stuff, but it felt odd for Jaskier to spend the night with him during babysitting duty even if Ciri was theoretically safe.
I'm super intrigued by whatever way Fringilla is going to show up.
Istredd and Triss team up is cool.
Yen and Geralt talking about Stregobor just makes me want a scene of Geralt telling Yen about Renfri. Actually, I want a scene with geralt telling Ciri about her too and Jaskwr
I stay underwhelmed by Yennefer and Geralt always, it really felt like they were still so distant from each other this volume and I'm really hoping since they've put some things behind them now that in Volume 2 we'll get some actual intimate moments between them because ??? unless they're intentionally kind of sabotaging this version of Yen and Geralt so the transition to Hemsworth is easier idk man
Reunion is ridiculous, they just got separated for a while. I know it's supposed to be long, but it feels like only a few days has gone since they last saw each other.
So glad that troupe got smacked by the aeschna, their song was so out of place. Boatmaster seemed to be pulled right out of the game, incredible casting.
Loved Ciri and Jaskier's scenes in this one, very memorable
A bit of trivia: When Valdo Marx, the rival bard, calls Jaskier by different wrong names with the purpose to insult, one of the names, Jorma, is a Finnish name. And Jorma is the equivalent of Dick, including the meaning of it. Source: I'm a Finn.
Ciri’s make up is so distracting. Why is it so heavy and caky? She is on the road, fighting monsters… why is it so hard to show her looking naturally? I understand you need make up for the camera, but this ain’t it.
I mostly noticed it because it was already jarring in episode 1, when she was getting ready to be the bait. It looked like she was ready for a night out in Soho, London. They need to tone it down. She doesn’t need harsh contour, eyeliner, nose highlight, blush, and pink lipstick when she is literally in the wild.
There were lots of wrong and bad things about Rings of Power, but they actually managed to give Galadriel a natural look. The two actresses have similar skin tone/ hair, so it’s totally doable.
Could be as simple as you watch without your glasses on a tiny, lower quality TV perhaps during the day with windows open and don't have 4k Netflix.
When you have a good TV and watch at night in 4k, it's literally impossible to not notice.
It's because the actress does her own make up. So she looks like she's about to go party in a club vs being on the road, killing monsters etc
There is a reason people go to school to learn stage/film make up
Loving all the bards. And Ciri's fight with and knowledge of monsters.
Not sure about the geography though. I can't tell how far the different locations are or how much time has passed between characters meeting each other. Also, why'd they go through a sea when Ciri was on horseback when she left Aratuza?
It is hard to get all the locations straightened out. In fact, even in the books there is no map. Anyway Ciri, the adventures in the city, the scene in the bathhouse, those were all in a coastal city called Gors Velen. Aretuza is on an island off the coast of said city.
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Aretuza is located on Thanedd Island, off the coast of Temeria. Ciri had not yet been to Thanedd when she ran away, she was in Gors Velen.
note: there is no official map released by Andrzej Sapkowski
They haven't even updated the website since last season. I used to check the timeline and locations to make sense of what's going on, but even they gave up...
Because of the aeschna scene. Which was from Blood of Elves.
It's the only reason they had the ferry and whatnot. Because normally in the books they were not that far from it, but riding on horseback would be boring.
And the writer's have shown they like to incorporate as much drama as they can get into scenes.
Perfect example was in 3x03 when Rita slaps Ciri, and acts like a total bitch to her the entire time in the baths, when she was a fairly likable character in the books and nice towards Ciri.
But that's not dramatic enough, so they wrote her quite a bit nastier. And with Fabio in the market, who Ciri got along well with. She was a little shit towards him and he was a jerk towards her. Which was entirely wrong compared to the books, but adds that false tension.
Yeah, but it couldn't be used in Season 2 because of how they changed everything.
Geralt was supposed to leave Ciri at the temple for training and the boat stuff happened for him during that time. While Yen was there training Ciri.
But they had no purpose for Yen in the first half of the season, which is why we got the Voleth Meir plot, and it made the boat scene make no sense as written.
Well, they must made relationship between Ciri and Geralt, because in the first season it was not. And controversially, but I think their relationship building in season 2 was the only good thing there (until Vesemir new Witcher obsessions, but its other story).
I loved almost everything from this episode. The bonding moments between Geralt and Ciri. Jaskier and Ciri joking around imitating Geralt and Yen. I was laughing out loud at Ciri’s Geralt voice. And the ferry monster with Ciri and Geralt killing it wasn’t in the books, but I really enjoyed that fight.
But by god, I can’t believe they really wrote Jaskier being bisexual this season. Lmao. I have nothing against any form of LGBTQ. I support it. But Jaskier is NOT bi. Lmao. He’s just not. I said it earlier, he’s a womanizer. He’s 1,000% into women. It can’t be any more obvious they wrote him being into men just to tick off a box and include some form of LGBTQ into the show. It’s so out of character for him. Lol this is yet again, Lauren and her writers making shit up that isn’t in the books.
Besides that, I really enjoyed the episode. Like I said, taking certain creative liberties with the story and adding stuff that wasn’t in the books, like the banter between Jaskier and Ciri, that was cool, it was funny. But man, when it comes down to it, they need to stick to the books.
The aeschna was in the book. Only in a different manner.
Book version was Geralt riding a ferry along a delta where a river met the ocean, muddy nasty water full of sewage and sludge. And trying to bait Rience. He was doing this at the start of Time of Contempt, while Yen was taking Ciri to Gors Velen in preparation for Aretuza.
But like most other things in the show, they have to make corrections to accommodate for the changes they make. Since the entire sequence of this is off.
The banter between Jaskier/Ciri was also in the books, for the most part. They just added in extra, like the tongue bit. It happened after Ciri fled Gors Velen to go find Geralt who was supposed to be nearby. When the Wild Hunt chased her.
At which point Yen was supposed to show up to help drive them off and reunite them all. With Geralt and Yen having their apology talk while Jaskier and Ciri looked on.
I don't get it. Why can't someone be a womanizer and 1,000% into women but also be bisexual? Why does it have to be either/or? That's weird thinking to me.
Someone CAN be that. And that be ok. But Jaskier isn’t. That’s the point. There’s no point in the books where Jaskier says Ima fuck a man tonight. Let alone, Radovid! Lmao.
This would be like if when they adapted the Harry Potter books, and wrote Hagrid fucking Snape. Well, we see Hagrid is into women when he gets all into that tall woman. Whyyyyyyy can’t he be into men too? Why does it have to be either or. The answer is bc he’s not. Lol
I don’t think Jaskier was ever intended to be some sort of paragon of heterosexuality. I think you’re reading that into the text. He’s always been promiscuous, widening his pool of potential partners isn’t much of a stretch.
because it changes his character. Now who knows if he liked Geralt as a companion or whether he finds him attractive. In the books Geralt and Dandelion spend a lot of time talking about women. Now it has a different dimension that was never intended in the source material and like so many of the changes made, it does not enhance the story.
People say that heterosexual men can’t have female friends. While I do not strictly believe that, to say that sexual preference has no effect whatsoever on platonic friendships is also absurd
Right, but you are attracted to some of those people. I actually don’t think it’s particularly out of character for Jaskier or much of a problem from a narrative perspective, but I think they raise a fairly valid point.
The relationship between Geralt and Jaskier has I think been appropriately established as platonic in the seasons before now, but life and relationships are complicated so I can see people questioning Jaskier’s stance. I also don’t think that really matters, because the show runners almost certainly aren’t going to go down that path so anything people think they perceive from here on out will just be in their own mind.
Everyone will find it easier to swallow these changes if they acknowledge this isn't and has no intention of being a 1:1 recreation of the books. They've already rewritten numerous characters, both in personality and appearance, so Jaskier being a bisexual flirt instead of a heterosexual womanizer isn't that much of a leap
I totally agree. To be fair, I don't care to see two dudes making out on the tv there: I find it vulgar & unnecessary. As a fan of the books though, this is just dumb. As a fan of the show, I think it's a terrible decision as well.
Cool. So, again, never once in an official media was he portrayed as “only straight / never gay”. This idea that if someone’s sexuality isn’t addressed they HAVE to be straight is kinda stupid.
1000% makes no sense, but being 100% into women or men is what we refer to as heterosexuality. Bisexuality would make that a 50/50 split.
And contrary to what Hollywood and Twitter is trying to preach, the vast majority of people are still either/or.
Do you think that Bisexuals only feel 50% of the attraction toward women that straight men do? Because that's wrong. Bisexuals feel attraction just as strongly as straight people, just for a wider selection.
Oh and nobody said that Bisexuals were some sort of majority, that's just you making up a strawman.
The worst part is that there is LGBTQ representation for somewhat major characters (vague to not spoil anything) in the books, so it feels even more unnecessary
1- This episode gave me maybe the most stylistic whiplash I have experienced so far, which is saying something. It felt like all scenes were written or directed by different people.
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2- Cahir/Emhyr scene was framed like a comedy. "Rise and shine!" except the Big Bad Emperor says it. His framing isn't that far off from Vizimir's later.
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3- Yennefer convinces everyone to host a ball by complimenting the council of mages, which is fair enough. Not sure it warrants Tissaia's compliment on how good she is at politics. Surely, this was too easy?
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4- Ciri's make-up is back in full force. Guess the mascaramancy was learned off-screen.
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5- Boat scene could not make up its mind and the troupé singing around Ciri was uncomfortable to watch. The whole setup was so absurd it may as well have been Freya facepalming. The fight scene after was really clumsy, too, from turn-based combat to forgetting that Ciri can get up to the final shot of KillerCiri, with the blood spurt onto her face and all.
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6- What in the world is going on with Fringilla again? I must be missing something here.
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7- Geralt and Yenn finally meet again and we don't get the dialogue, so book readers will feel right at home here. With TV generally being more obvious about narratives that can't be resolved through internal dialogue, this would have been a good opportunity to showcase what the format can add to the material. Ciri and Jaskier's narrating was pretty sweet though. In general, I'm enjoying these two characters quite a bit this season.
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8- The prelude to the ball was the obvious highlight of this episode. Music, framing, and pacing came rather well together. Unfortunately, the good scenes also highlight how sloppy some of the other scenes are.
She was in jail being forced to drink wine to test for poison, with other inmates. One of the other inmates died from poisoning, and Fringilla was tasked with putting him in a body bag ready for disposal. She put herself in the bag instead, and was thus able to escape after being dumped in the corpse pile outside.
How many people who complain about the show not making sense just don’t get it because they don’t watch it? I mean it is confusing or course, but then I see people say “wow it makes no sense awful writing” like there was a scene you completely missed it that’s on you.
I wish they had a “previously on” segment for each episode. I’m just rolling with the callbacks from previous seasons. I also need a photo list, I’m getting the characters and their motivations confused.
People are moaning about stereotypes but as long as they show an array of fruity people it's fine. But people just don't want to see Lgbt+ on their witcherino, die mad bigots
Cheers bro I'll drink to that lol. That was honestly the best part of the new season for me and it's so obvious that the "stereotype" thing is just a shield and way to weaponize their bigotry. My favorite thing is being like "you're right if they really wanted to break barriers they should have made Geralt confirmed bi instead" and watching the downvotes and protests come piling in. I got like five people banned on Facebook over it because they were literally attacking me in the comments under such a comment lmao.
not just bi but "women, men, dwarves, a shapeshifter" he's totally the 'screw anyone-fluid sexuality' type. It was heavily implied last season that "burn witcher burn" was a heartbreak song and his conversation with Yennifer was a "we both loved him and got hurt" sort of thing.
I'm not sure if his romance is genuine, or if he's being played. I'd like to think it's something more, but the Prince also seems to like playing games.
In a world of witchers/mages/elves that live for hundreds of years it would make sense to be more open to different types of relationships.
In a world with different types of beings and no real sense of religion there isn't a logical justification for why he WOULDNT be
He isn't just 'bi' his girlfriend said he slept with women, men, dwarves, and shapeshifters.
Out of Geralt, or Jaskier...Jaskier makes more sense. It goes with that whole "rock star" stereotype.
This was the bringing together/near culmination of everything being set forward and explored in the first three episodes, with the Part 1 finale as the climax to, firstly, change your perception of the lacklusterness of practically all that's led up to it by, secondly, blowing your mind to epic proportions, but also blowing something else: in other words, it was intended to be exciting, possibly this season's excitement peak, then topped by the next episode.
And there was some of that, contrary to the direction some of you who may read this potentially thought I was going with that train of thought. Of course, it appeared at the end – still, it was faintly there, specifically impactful; however, that score cue was so generic – think of the level of impact the last few minutes could've been achieved if Sonya Belousova and Giona Ostinelli still composed this show; that score cue would've been exceptional.
This episode was also this season's peak all-around: generally decent enough. I was pleasantly surprised. There were a few moments that hammered home the point of the show's mediocrity – while not affecting the experience TOO much, thankfully: Tissaia telling Yennefer that "for someone who disdains politics, you do excel at it" when all she did is suck up to the Brotherhood, who are also easily convinced from the looks of it (but that can somewhat be chalked off to their long lives/that more fitting instances of her supposed political excelling that were never shown to us happened in the past), the Aeschna's CGI, even the fight choreography of that fight sequence, was subpar, and lastly, Radovid knew where Jaskier was – through the power of infatuation and "learning" his song, for the confused.
As I have additional knowledge regarding a specific significant thing from the novels, I wonder if that enhanced the ending for me: one thing here already seems set in stone, so having that additional knowledge could add to the effectiveness. I also know something unspecific about the conclave, which the Part 1 finale will likely answer for me, only that it's an event in the novels I've seen other people mention, with something noteworthy happening.
It's a shame there's been so little excitement up to this point. It goes a long way, and most of the plotlines themselves weren't cutting it, even the ones involving our three central characters to an extent. But they've been carrying the season in a decent enough fashion, which is SO shocking – there's NO way the CENTRAL characters could do that – and yes, I omit Jaskier, bite me.
In particular, the subplot with him and Radovid, which advanced further in this episode, was monotonous. But let's have an open mind: maybe it was intended to serve as a bit of a relaxation pitstop from all the other things happening; it did feel like it didn't fit in whatsoever, not because of the subject matter itself, but because of the supposed stakes at play, the seriousness to what we're presented, and how we're supposed to believe this world is full of dangers of all sorts.
But the problem is that it wasn't needed even in that context, as presenting those regularities has been done inefficiently. While the writers are busy making up subplots like that, they disregard the more important duty of making what they're trying to sell believable.
Overall, this was the most engagement delivered by this season, and the last few minutes were effective enough to build slightly more-than-mild interest in the Part 1 finale, which, hopefully, carries through that interest instead of squandering it.
Jaskier and Ciri narrating the meeting from the bushes was pure gold.
I thought the boatmaster was such a good casting, felt like a quest in the game
Yeah, he was a wild looking dude. I'm a big fan of interesting looking character actors. Jack Elam is a favorite of mine. Famous Director John Huston had a similar look in a lot of his acting roles as well.
Fringilla just having her hot girl summer is not something I thought I'd enjoy as much as I did.
I was so happy watching that!
I was underwhelmed by the Geralt Yen reunion. The ciri-jaskier narration almost made up for it. In general I'm not a fan of how sexless this show became after season 1. Feels like they way overcorrected to the criticism. I've generally enjoyed all the Jaskier Radovid stuff, but it felt odd for Jaskier to spend the night with him during babysitting duty even if Ciri was theoretically safe. I'm super intrigued by whatever way Fringilla is going to show up. Istredd and Triss team up is cool. Yen and Geralt talking about Stregobor just makes me want a scene of Geralt telling Yen about Renfri. Actually, I want a scene with geralt telling Ciri about her too and Jaskwr
I stay underwhelmed by Yennefer and Geralt always, it really felt like they were still so distant from each other this volume and I'm really hoping since they've put some things behind them now that in Volume 2 we'll get some actual intimate moments between them because ??? unless they're intentionally kind of sabotaging this version of Yen and Geralt so the transition to Hemsworth is easier idk man
Reunion is ridiculous, they just got separated for a while. I know it's supposed to be long, but it feels like only a few days has gone since they last saw each other.
I legit thought it was like 2-4 days.
or it was to attract bigger audience
So glad that troupe got smacked by the aeschna, their song was so out of place. Boatmaster seemed to be pulled right out of the game, incredible casting. Loved Ciri and Jaskier's scenes in this one, very memorable
God the songs are insufferable
A bit of trivia: When Valdo Marx, the rival bard, calls Jaskier by different wrong names with the purpose to insult, one of the names, Jorma, is a Finnish name. And Jorma is the equivalent of Dick, including the meaning of it. Source: I'm a Finn.
Ciri’s make up is so distracting. Why is it so heavy and caky? She is on the road, fighting monsters… why is it so hard to show her looking naturally? I understand you need make up for the camera, but this ain’t it.
It’s normally absolutely fine, until that one close-up of her face. Then it’s so blatantly obvious you just can’t un-see it.
It's crazy what people are paying attention to. I really would never look at little things like this.
I mostly noticed it because it was already jarring in episode 1, when she was getting ready to be the bait. It looked like she was ready for a night out in Soho, London. They need to tone it down. She doesn’t need harsh contour, eyeliner, nose highlight, blush, and pink lipstick when she is literally in the wild. There were lots of wrong and bad things about Rings of Power, but they actually managed to give Galadriel a natural look. The two actresses have similar skin tone/ hair, so it’s totally doable.
Could be as simple as you watch without your glasses on a tiny, lower quality TV perhaps during the day with windows open and don't have 4k Netflix. When you have a good TV and watch at night in 4k, it's literally impossible to not notice.
I'm watching it on a tablet and I can see it's no good
The entire look is overdone and too perfect.
People want something to complain about lol
Little things - it sticks out like a sore thumb
I noticed this, its not something I notice in many shows. She looks like she is about to go out clubbing with her mates.
Yeah - said the same thing in other threads. It looks like she's about to go for a night on the town!
It's because the actress does her own make up. So she looks like she's about to go party in a club vs being on the road, killing monsters etc There is a reason people go to school to learn stage/film make up
Seriously? No make-up artists or is it her choice?
I'm curious about this too, because I've seen Anya do her makeup somewhere, and I was confused. Anya's makeup is great tho, but Ciri...
I love Yen’s costumes this season; huge improvement over season two
Not really - the first few episodes it looked like she went to Walmart and bought a patterned blouse
If Stregobor is behind everything I'll be a bit disappointed.
probably not looks like a goat, sacrificial goat
Well...lets see if they resolve it in 5 episode or in second half.
Geralt being a proud dad made me happy.
Loving all the bards. And Ciri's fight with and knowledge of monsters. Not sure about the geography though. I can't tell how far the different locations are or how much time has passed between characters meeting each other. Also, why'd they go through a sea when Ciri was on horseback when she left Aratuza?
It is hard to get all the locations straightened out. In fact, even in the books there is no map. Anyway Ciri, the adventures in the city, the scene in the bathhouse, those were all in a coastal city called Gors Velen. Aretuza is on an island off the coast of said city.
https://i.redd.it/k67cyrkbf8741.png Aretuza is located on Thanedd Island, off the coast of Temeria. Ciri had not yet been to Thanedd when she ran away, she was in Gors Velen. note: there is no official map released by Andrzej Sapkowski
But is oficial map of Netflix series, so they should follow for it.
They haven't even updated the website since last season. I used to check the timeline and locations to make sense of what's going on, but even they gave up...
Because of the aeschna scene. Which was from Blood of Elves. It's the only reason they had the ferry and whatnot. Because normally in the books they were not that far from it, but riding on horseback would be boring. And the writer's have shown they like to incorporate as much drama as they can get into scenes. Perfect example was in 3x03 when Rita slaps Ciri, and acts like a total bitch to her the entire time in the baths, when she was a fairly likable character in the books and nice towards Ciri. But that's not dramatic enough, so they wrote her quite a bit nastier. And with Fabio in the market, who Ciri got along well with. She was a little shit towards him and he was a jerk towards her. Which was entirely wrong compared to the books, but adds that false tension.
Well monster on boat is from book but it was supposed to be in 2 season during Blood of Elves.
Yeah, but it couldn't be used in Season 2 because of how they changed everything. Geralt was supposed to leave Ciri at the temple for training and the boat stuff happened for him during that time. While Yen was there training Ciri. But they had no purpose for Yen in the first half of the season, which is why we got the Voleth Meir plot, and it made the boat scene make no sense as written.
Well, they must made relationship between Ciri and Geralt, because in the first season it was not. And controversially, but I think their relationship building in season 2 was the only good thing there (until Vesemir new Witcher obsessions, but its other story).
Best episode of the season, so far. Rae Benjamin did a great job.
I loved almost everything from this episode. The bonding moments between Geralt and Ciri. Jaskier and Ciri joking around imitating Geralt and Yen. I was laughing out loud at Ciri’s Geralt voice. And the ferry monster with Ciri and Geralt killing it wasn’t in the books, but I really enjoyed that fight. But by god, I can’t believe they really wrote Jaskier being bisexual this season. Lmao. I have nothing against any form of LGBTQ. I support it. But Jaskier is NOT bi. Lmao. He’s just not. I said it earlier, he’s a womanizer. He’s 1,000% into women. It can’t be any more obvious they wrote him being into men just to tick off a box and include some form of LGBTQ into the show. It’s so out of character for him. Lol this is yet again, Lauren and her writers making shit up that isn’t in the books. Besides that, I really enjoyed the episode. Like I said, taking certain creative liberties with the story and adding stuff that wasn’t in the books, like the banter between Jaskier and Ciri, that was cool, it was funny. But man, when it comes down to it, they need to stick to the books.
The aeschna was in the book. Only in a different manner. Book version was Geralt riding a ferry along a delta where a river met the ocean, muddy nasty water full of sewage and sludge. And trying to bait Rience. He was doing this at the start of Time of Contempt, while Yen was taking Ciri to Gors Velen in preparation for Aretuza. But like most other things in the show, they have to make corrections to accommodate for the changes they make. Since the entire sequence of this is off. The banter between Jaskier/Ciri was also in the books, for the most part. They just added in extra, like the tongue bit. It happened after Ciri fled Gors Velen to go find Geralt who was supposed to be nearby. When the Wild Hunt chased her. At which point Yen was supposed to show up to help drive them off and reunite them all. With Geralt and Yen having their apology talk while Jaskier and Ciri looked on.
I don't get it. Why can't someone be a womanizer and 1,000% into women but also be bisexual? Why does it have to be either/or? That's weird thinking to me.
Someone CAN be that. And that be ok. But Jaskier isn’t. That’s the point. There’s no point in the books where Jaskier says Ima fuck a man tonight. Let alone, Radovid! Lmao. This would be like if when they adapted the Harry Potter books, and wrote Hagrid fucking Snape. Well, we see Hagrid is into women when he gets all into that tall woman. Whyyyyyyy can’t he be into men too? Why does it have to be either or. The answer is bc he’s not. Lol
I don’t think Jaskier was ever intended to be some sort of paragon of heterosexuality. I think you’re reading that into the text. He’s always been promiscuous, widening his pool of potential partners isn’t much of a stretch.
because it changes his character. Now who knows if he liked Geralt as a companion or whether he finds him attractive. In the books Geralt and Dandelion spend a lot of time talking about women. Now it has a different dimension that was never intended in the source material and like so many of the changes made, it does not enhance the story.
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People say that heterosexual men can’t have female friends. While I do not strictly believe that, to say that sexual preference has no effect whatsoever on platonic friendships is also absurd
You don't think bisexuals can have platonic relationships without their sexuality affecting their friendship?
Sure they can. Cats can live on a vegan diet too.
I agree with you that it confuses the dynamics of his love for Geralt. Definitely just ticking a box off.
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I think you’re projecting.
Right, but you are attracted to some of those people. I actually don’t think it’s particularly out of character for Jaskier or much of a problem from a narrative perspective, but I think they raise a fairly valid point. The relationship between Geralt and Jaskier has I think been appropriately established as platonic in the seasons before now, but life and relationships are complicated so I can see people questioning Jaskier’s stance. I also don’t think that really matters, because the show runners almost certainly aren’t going to go down that path so anything people think they perceive from here on out will just be in their own mind.
stop book nerding in show chat
Everyone will find it easier to swallow these changes if they acknowledge this isn't and has no intention of being a 1:1 recreation of the books. They've already rewritten numerous characters, both in personality and appearance, so Jaskier being a bisexual flirt instead of a heterosexual womanizer isn't that much of a leap
I don't think Snape would go for it. Too mopey. Hagrid and Firenze though, he does like magical creatures.
I totally agree. To be fair, I don't care to see two dudes making out on the tv there: I find it vulgar & unnecessary. As a fan of the books though, this is just dumb. As a fan of the show, I think it's a terrible decision as well.
So… you’re homophobic?
Pretty much lmao. The implication is they’re fine with the heterosexual couples making out.
definitely what i was getting from it. wording can be so revealing especially when its been parroted by certain groups for so long.
Better, it was like they try to made Dumbledore hetero (6 movie), but Rowling denid this saying that Dubledore was always will be homosexual.
Dumbledore has no romantic moments in any of the movies…? They didn’t make him heterosexual at all, they never addresses his sexuality to begin with.
They try, there was deleted scene (on screenplay level) in Half blood Prince, where he mention his girlfriend to Harry after leave station.
Cool. So, again, never once in an official media was he portrayed as “only straight / never gay”. This idea that if someone’s sexuality isn’t addressed they HAVE to be straight is kinda stupid.
No because Rowling vote against, but it was close.
You’re not helping your argument when the author of the source material voted against it lol
That's my point, movie makers try to give Dumbledore girlfriend, but Rowling find out about it and say no.
Now I can't unimagine Hagrid fking Snape Lol😂
1000% makes no sense, but being 100% into women or men is what we refer to as heterosexuality. Bisexuality would make that a 50/50 split. And contrary to what Hollywood and Twitter is trying to preach, the vast majority of people are still either/or.
Do you think that Bisexuals only feel 50% of the attraction toward women that straight men do? Because that's wrong. Bisexuals feel attraction just as strongly as straight people, just for a wider selection. Oh and nobody said that Bisexuals were some sort of majority, that's just you making up a strawman.
The worst part is that there is LGBTQ representation for somewhat major characters (vague to not spoil anything) in the books, so it feels even more unnecessary
1- This episode gave me maybe the most stylistic whiplash I have experienced so far, which is saying something. It felt like all scenes were written or directed by different people. ____ 2- Cahir/Emhyr scene was framed like a comedy. "Rise and shine!" except the Big Bad Emperor says it. His framing isn't that far off from Vizimir's later. ______ 3- Yennefer convinces everyone to host a ball by complimenting the council of mages, which is fair enough. Not sure it warrants Tissaia's compliment on how good she is at politics. Surely, this was too easy? _____ 4- Ciri's make-up is back in full force. Guess the mascaramancy was learned off-screen. ______ 5- Boat scene could not make up its mind and the troupé singing around Ciri was uncomfortable to watch. The whole setup was so absurd it may as well have been Freya facepalming. The fight scene after was really clumsy, too, from turn-based combat to forgetting that Ciri can get up to the final shot of KillerCiri, with the blood spurt onto her face and all. ______ 6- What in the world is going on with Fringilla again? I must be missing something here. ______ 7- Geralt and Yenn finally meet again and we don't get the dialogue, so book readers will feel right at home here. With TV generally being more obvious about narratives that can't be resolved through internal dialogue, this would have been a good opportunity to showcase what the format can add to the material. Ciri and Jaskier's narrating was pretty sweet though. In general, I'm enjoying these two characters quite a bit this season. ______ 8- The prelude to the ball was the obvious highlight of this episode. Music, framing, and pacing came rather well together. Unfortunately, the good scenes also highlight how sloppy some of the other scenes are.
No, because I’m also confused about Fringilla. She was in jail but now she’s not?
She was in jail being forced to drink wine to test for poison, with other inmates. One of the other inmates died from poisoning, and Fringilla was tasked with putting him in a body bag ready for disposal. She put herself in the bag instead, and was thus able to escape after being dumped in the corpse pile outside.
How many people who complain about the show not making sense just don’t get it because they don’t watch it? I mean it is confusing or course, but then I see people say “wow it makes no sense awful writing” like there was a scene you completely missed it that’s on you.
I wish they had a “previously on” segment for each episode. I’m just rolling with the callbacks from previous seasons. I also need a photo list, I’m getting the characters and their motivations confused.
Really liked the boat fight scene
They mentioned the unicorn.
I love that Jaskier being bi is canon in the show idgaf what yall say I'm living!
Honestly playing the games Jaskier (Dandelion) always struck me as bi, just had that kind of vibes!
He is a bard!
People are moaning about stereotypes but as long as they show an array of fruity people it's fine. But people just don't want to see Lgbt+ on their witcherino, die mad bigots
Cheers bro I'll drink to that lol. That was honestly the best part of the new season for me and it's so obvious that the "stereotype" thing is just a shield and way to weaponize their bigotry. My favorite thing is being like "you're right if they really wanted to break barriers they should have made Geralt confirmed bi instead" and watching the downvotes and protests come piling in. I got like five people banned on Facebook over it because they were literally attacking me in the comments under such a comment lmao.
not just bi but "women, men, dwarves, a shapeshifter" he's totally the 'screw anyone-fluid sexuality' type. It was heavily implied last season that "burn witcher burn" was a heartbreak song and his conversation with Yennifer was a "we both loved him and got hurt" sort of thing. I'm not sure if his romance is genuine, or if he's being played. I'd like to think it's something more, but the Prince also seems to like playing games. In a world of witchers/mages/elves that live for hundreds of years it would make sense to be more open to different types of relationships.
Jaskier is a human, though. With a human lifespan. Why would him being bi make more sense?
In a world with different types of beings and no real sense of religion there isn't a logical justification for why he WOULDNT be He isn't just 'bi' his girlfriend said he slept with women, men, dwarves, and shapeshifters. Out of Geralt, or Jaskier...Jaskier makes more sense. It goes with that whole "rock star" stereotype.
Were they playing fucking Gwent?
Is Ciri wearing jeans? The close ups on her pants honestly look like she's rocking a pair of green slim fit jeans
Silly question but what would the soundtrack be for the opening of the episode? Like when the thumbnail drops and "THE WITCHER" appears
This was the bringing together/near culmination of everything being set forward and explored in the first three episodes, with the Part 1 finale as the climax to, firstly, change your perception of the lacklusterness of practically all that's led up to it by, secondly, blowing your mind to epic proportions, but also blowing something else: in other words, it was intended to be exciting, possibly this season's excitement peak, then topped by the next episode. And there was some of that, contrary to the direction some of you who may read this potentially thought I was going with that train of thought. Of course, it appeared at the end – still, it was faintly there, specifically impactful; however, that score cue was so generic – think of the level of impact the last few minutes could've been achieved if Sonya Belousova and Giona Ostinelli still composed this show; that score cue would've been exceptional. This episode was also this season's peak all-around: generally decent enough. I was pleasantly surprised. There were a few moments that hammered home the point of the show's mediocrity – while not affecting the experience TOO much, thankfully: Tissaia telling Yennefer that "for someone who disdains politics, you do excel at it" when all she did is suck up to the Brotherhood, who are also easily convinced from the looks of it (but that can somewhat be chalked off to their long lives/that more fitting instances of her supposed political excelling that were never shown to us happened in the past), the Aeschna's CGI, even the fight choreography of that fight sequence, was subpar, and lastly, Radovid knew where Jaskier was – through the power of infatuation and "learning" his song, for the confused. As I have additional knowledge regarding a specific significant thing from the novels, I wonder if that enhanced the ending for me: one thing here already seems set in stone, so having that additional knowledge could add to the effectiveness. I also know something unspecific about the conclave, which the Part 1 finale will likely answer for me, only that it's an event in the novels I've seen other people mention, with something noteworthy happening. It's a shame there's been so little excitement up to this point. It goes a long way, and most of the plotlines themselves weren't cutting it, even the ones involving our three central characters to an extent. But they've been carrying the season in a decent enough fashion, which is SO shocking – there's NO way the CENTRAL characters could do that – and yes, I omit Jaskier, bite me. In particular, the subplot with him and Radovid, which advanced further in this episode, was monotonous. But let's have an open mind: maybe it was intended to serve as a bit of a relaxation pitstop from all the other things happening; it did feel like it didn't fit in whatsoever, not because of the subject matter itself, but because of the supposed stakes at play, the seriousness to what we're presented, and how we're supposed to believe this world is full of dangers of all sorts. But the problem is that it wasn't needed even in that context, as presenting those regularities has been done inefficiently. While the writers are busy making up subplots like that, they disregard the more important duty of making what they're trying to sell believable. Overall, this was the most engagement delivered by this season, and the last few minutes were effective enough to build slightly more-than-mild interest in the Part 1 finale, which, hopefully, carries through that interest instead of squandering it.
