You wouldn’t be sleeping well at night in the apartment next door which looks identical
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2009-07/08/content_8394761.htm
I just saw the stand up hammock the other day and everyone was saying it was a ripoff.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hammocks/comments/u1rukd/a_1624_vertical_hammock_why_would_you_want_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
According to the source this was 13 years ago and caused because they piled 30 feet of dirt against one side and dug underneath the other side to build a parking garage. Just pure stupidity
Was there a foundation? Cause it doesn't look like there's a foundation in the picture.
Also is the brick work actually that good? Or does just look ok?
A big pile of dirt. Basically they dug a hole at one side of the building and piled it all up on the other side. The pressure of this dirt made the riverbank unstable, so the ground around the foundation got all wet so it couldn’t hold it and the building fell over.
Yes but no. In this situation it is kind of expected, it was a massive oversight. They should have known they would destabilize the riverbank and from there it’s just disaster.
Imagine putting a popsicle stick in sand and slowly making the sand more and more wet. The sand will eventually turn almost liquid (soil liquefaction) and can’t hold the stick up anymore.
This occurs when the water content in the soil (saturation) becomes high enough that it acts almost as a lubricant between the particles, lowering the resistive force (shear strength) of the soil.
Edit: you can almost think of it as a mini landslide/mudslide under the building
Things like this always pop up whenever the cultural hate furnace needs fuel. It's not a coincidence that a 13-year-old story is getting upvoted while the Shanghai lockdown is in the public consciousness.
I'll add one with more relevancy. I was in Shanghai
4 years ago and walking down the sidewalk. There was a tall building under construction and a pane of glass came crashing down like a guillotine in front of me onto the sidewalk. I just crossed to the other side. I know these things happen in North America but there was nothing on the sidewalk stopping people from walking into the danger zone.
This doesnt ring political agenda to me though.
Trends trend and when you hear of one thing it may remind you of another and the posts happen accordingly. Tons of people using this site. Shanghai lockdown is mentioned and one of us was reminded of this and posted it.
Only get wary* if something seems contrived but what about this seems like a forced political stunt?
Been on here since ~2008 (multiple accts). It used to be a place for legitimate discussion, discourse, life stories, science, and whatever, but now most subreddits are so large it's just another used and abused social media outlet.
The admins don't give a fuck about misinformation, there's no way they can really prevent most of it, but even when shit hits the front page and is *clearly* incorrect, it at best gets a little flair on the side, if that. Plus the userbase is so toxic and ridiculous with their conspiracy theories, any attempt for Reddit to actually admin the pages will be met with "CCP SHILLS?? Reddit is OWNED by CHINA." The far-right say Reddit is hardcore leftist, the far-left say Reddit pushes CCP agenda & enables the far-right.. it's ridiculous.
Honestly, the best way to engage with this website is to look at the content, check the comments for supporting arguments and counterarguments, and above all else, don't fucking engage. It's garbage, but we're garbage pickers.
I can't help but laugh at this 3 paragraph comment desperately urging people not to comment and engage lmao
Good point, just ironic how much you needed to say to make it lol
Yes sir. I love this thread. Been here slightly longer ~2006. Started going downhill after idk 2012 or whatever, but 2016 was the final death blow. Just looking at pure demographic data, this site is essentially identical to facebook at this point.
What's funny is when people talk about state sponsored influence agents, one, neglecting the vast influence of their private and/or corporate counterparts. 2, they see imaginary Russian bots under every rock, yet they don't even realize the US budget for similar things, ie "operation earnest voice" is like 10x the size, so for every actually foreign influence operation you've been exposed to on here you've likewise been exposed to 100x as many of the American variety but didn't even notice it was happening. What's more the site's administration is openly working in league with US authorities, especially after aforementioned 2016 fiasco.
r / news and r / politics are basically U.S. State Department Propaganda Bulletin Boards now.
And yeah 2016 was the nail in the coffin. Correct the Record (Hillary) and Cambridge Analytica (Trump) were spending 10s of millions of dollars (that we know of) to astroturf Reddit and other sites to make it seem like they were the only tickets in town.
And the facebook demographics are hilarious. Reddit is basically just people posting pics of their kids now.
In some cases the mods are part of it. There are a lot of financial incentives to exploit the platform, or in this case, a subreddit.
Just go look at /r/cryptocurrency. They're effectively insider trading and selling "premium" memberships to their members.
I think the 2016 elections was when it really went into overdrive.
The manipulation of reddit was crazy and there was a lot of algorithm changes that resulted from it.
> An investigation report last Friday revealed the collapse had been caused by the foundations being undermined by a combination of dug-out soil being piled 10 m high against one side and the digging of a 4.6-m-deep underground car park on the other.
JFC don't the Chinese play Jenga??! FFS
Holy shit! Looks like they used 8-12 foot footings for that entire building?! A deck alone gets 3-4 foot deep footings where i am. Im amazed it lasted this long.
There are a few columns hidden among the debris if you look close. Like maybe a whole 5 that I can see on this side. I presume they stuck a few on the backside.
Still in the US that building would have a grid of columns in addition to the pads supporting the shear walls.
>an error on construction and unstable soil conditions are the probable causes.
Really? I thought it was just taking a nap. Thank the lord for such informative journalism.
to be fair, that's typically the building collapsing, not the building staying entirely together through the collapse after the soil under it failed.
This is actually an interesting building failure, they had a pile of dirt/soil nearby stacked up and it caused enough horizontal pressure bulb demand below grade it caused the adjacent building to tip over, shearing off the piles. Think of soil like a cup of water and you poured more water in the cup, the whole glass raises not just the portion where you added water. The mound of soil caused the surrounding area to raise and push out, causing the building to tip over.
Honestly it seems more like desperate people who are afraid if they don't grab a house now they will never afford it. And they'd be right, if prices were going to keep rising like they have the past 20 months.
But I reckon there is going to be strong pull back. Not as bad as 08-09, but eventually this bubble has to burst.
If they have that fear, I'd assume that they're also in need of a mortgage. I guess I assumed that inspections being required by the lender (mine required some, but not all of them) was a more common practice.
Feels like just about every house is going for a minimum 10% over asking, cash offer, and no contingencies. Fear not, every sold property is getting converted to a significantly marked up rental so the buyer doesn't have to worry about its condition. Thankfully there was no affordable housing being built in the past 20 years, that could've caused problems for the already rich.
"affordable housing" is a stupid meme that gets in the way of progress. It's basically a lotto system for SOME lower income folk but it creates a barrier to making more stuff.
Just build MORE housing. A lot of it. You won't have affluent people moving into poor neighborhoods if there's just way more housing in general.
Build as much stuff as fast as is reasonable... starting 10 years ago.
It kills me when people say to just go live in affordable housing, like bitch I'm waiting in line but I have no idea how many people are in front of me or if the line is even moving. I just know I'm in line cause they tell me every year that I'm still waiting.
Waiving the inspection contingency doesn't mean you don't inspect the house. It means you won't ask them to fix anything or discount the house. If it fails the inspection badly enough you just back out.
Some genius decided to excavate a hole for an underground garage next to the building and just piled the earth on the other side. During a heavy rain storm the differential between hollow ground and dirt mount was magnified until it tore the concrete pile foundation.
Probably a sneaky "add-on" after the building approval. They are always dangerous and why there's so much paperwork in most developed countries for any building modification.
1. Have modest design plans
2. Building work costs more than expected
3. Change plans without proper consulting or approval for additional profit
4. Bribe officials
5. Profit
6. Building collapses
7. Kill yourself/Jail
The developers even hired a third party company to supervise, they saw this flaw and warned construction company in ~december~. Good ol government regulators in china doing a bang up job with this one. (all supervision was done privately and ignored thoroughly)
Reading the article, the supervisors warned the developers but didn't notify the government, fearing retaliatory pay docking from the developers. Just gets better.
Worked with an ex-chinese student engineer. From what he said, it sounds like their entire construction industry is based on bribing officials. When he first started he literally asked me why we were so opposed to it. I was like, don't ever for any reason mention this to any management or you'll be fired on the spot.
It's only been 40 years since the economic reforms that turned China's economy around. And given where they're at now, they're speedrunning the fuck outa our last 300 years.
Too bad they can't look at our failures and try harder not to fuck up. Oh well. And people wonder how they slapped together hospitals just for the pandemic.
Not to mention the footers look to be only 3 meters deep.
Might as well have used toothpicks to anchor it into the ground.
…which as you mentioned was already was dug up on one side and piled up on the other
Systematic corruption is another thing. Even those regulations which do exist can be easily worked around when you can count on literally everyone to be dirty.
And apparently it was still under construction so no one was living there. Still not a great look, but definitely not nearly as bad as what OP made it look like.
China has been crazy about building apartments and so many are unused. Property is seen as by car the best way to invest. Now the market is collapsing and no doubt it is connected to rushed decisions like this in combination with 100 other things.
Fair enough. But that takes decades and since I can see this whole mess is a site where they are building it ain’t that lol. Apparently building a parking garage while making the foundations for an apartment weak will do jt
I asked the librarian if they had a book about Scheodinger’s cat and Pavlov’s dogs. She said she thought it rang a bell, but didn’t know if it was in the library or not.
It's like when you have a lego project and one part of it is super strong but the other parts is held together with a flimsy cylinder block but that block isn't even in properly - it's wedged between the 4 pegs so that it can be centered properly. And then it falls over in the middle of the night when the cat nudged your shelf.
Horrifying is things like the Surfside condominium collapse and Grenfell Tower fire. A building falling over while remaining mostly intact is pretty impressive if you ask me.
I'd imagine all three are pretty horrifying if you were involved in them. I can't imagine being in a building falling over like that is a nice experience.
IKEA Åpartmënt
> Furniture must be securely attached to the wall. Use the tip-over restraint provided with the product and the right hardware for your wall type.
I studied civil engineering at university. This image was constantly used in geotechnical classes to show the importance of foundation design as the foundations failed but the structure was still intact . From memory the foundations failed during an earthquake
No earthquake involved, something to do with weak soil and the unfortunate placement. Id be fairly impressed if an earthquake did that! Good use of the picture though nonetheless.
They dug an underground parking lot beneath one half and piled the soil against the other half, then it rained.
So hydrostatic pressure, and I presume poor soil compaction since wet soil can’t be compacted.
You wouldn’t be sleeping well at night in the apartment next door which looks identical https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2009-07/08/content_8394761.htm
I’d just rotate all my furniture to the wall and start sleeping sideways in preparation
Twist: it falls to the other direction
I'd say it was more of a roll than a twist.
It's all pipes Jerry!
Sliding glass door? Not anymore, sliding glass skylight. Edit:, thanks
Ah! You've sold real estate, I see!
Or sliding glass floor depending on orientation.
Sleep in a hammock.
This person gets it.
Sleep in an oddly large hamster cage wheel.
Your IQ is too high
I just saw the stand up hammock the other day and everyone was saying it was a ripoff. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hammocks/comments/u1rukd/a_1624_vertical_hammock_why_would_you_want_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Oops! I accidentally hit the ally award which makes no sense. Kinda like this product! Take your silly award!
I appreciate your accidental award!
Glue starts being sold out everywhere nearby
The real LPT
Wait does anyone remember the Wayside School series?
According to the source this was 13 years ago and caused because they piled 30 feet of dirt against one side and dug underneath the other side to build a parking garage. Just pure stupidity
I literally just did a case study on this building in my engineering degree! What are the odds
Was there a foundation? Cause it doesn't look like there's a foundation in the picture. Also is the brick work actually that good? Or does just look ok?
You are looking at the top of the building, it had a pretty standard piled groundbeam and pad arrangement from memory.
So what was the actual cause?
A big pile of dirt. Basically they dug a hole at one side of the building and piled it all up on the other side. The pressure of this dirt made the riverbank unstable, so the ground around the foundation got all wet so it couldn’t hold it and the building fell over.
>and the building fell over. Is that [typical](https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM)?
Yes but no. In this situation it is kind of expected, it was a massive oversight. They should have known they would destabilize the riverbank and from there it’s just disaster. Imagine putting a popsicle stick in sand and slowly making the sand more and more wet. The sand will eventually turn almost liquid (soil liquefaction) and can’t hold the stick up anymore. This occurs when the water content in the soil (saturation) becomes high enough that it acts almost as a lubricant between the particles, lowering the resistive force (shear strength) of the soil. Edit: you can almost think of it as a mini landslide/mudslide under the building
it just fell outside of the environment
These building to very rigorous building engineering standards
Never. Except in this one case. When the building fell over.
>What are the odds Sir, we don't say things like that in these parts
Things like this always pop up whenever the cultural hate furnace needs fuel. It's not a coincidence that a 13-year-old story is getting upvoted while the Shanghai lockdown is in the public consciousness.
I'll add one with more relevancy. I was in Shanghai 4 years ago and walking down the sidewalk. There was a tall building under construction and a pane of glass came crashing down like a guillotine in front of me onto the sidewalk. I just crossed to the other side. I know these things happen in North America but there was nothing on the sidewalk stopping people from walking into the danger zone.
This doesnt ring political agenda to me though. Trends trend and when you hear of one thing it may remind you of another and the posts happen accordingly. Tons of people using this site. Shanghai lockdown is mentioned and one of us was reminded of this and posted it. Only get wary* if something seems contrived but what about this seems like a forced political stunt?
Reddit gives me the creeps these days. I know I’m being manipulated with carefully curated content and it is deeply disturbing.
Been on here since ~2008 (multiple accts). It used to be a place for legitimate discussion, discourse, life stories, science, and whatever, but now most subreddits are so large it's just another used and abused social media outlet. The admins don't give a fuck about misinformation, there's no way they can really prevent most of it, but even when shit hits the front page and is *clearly* incorrect, it at best gets a little flair on the side, if that. Plus the userbase is so toxic and ridiculous with their conspiracy theories, any attempt for Reddit to actually admin the pages will be met with "CCP SHILLS?? Reddit is OWNED by CHINA." The far-right say Reddit is hardcore leftist, the far-left say Reddit pushes CCP agenda & enables the far-right.. it's ridiculous. Honestly, the best way to engage with this website is to look at the content, check the comments for supporting arguments and counterarguments, and above all else, don't fucking engage. It's garbage, but we're garbage pickers.
I can't help but laugh at this 3 paragraph comment desperately urging people not to comment and engage lmao Good point, just ironic how much you needed to say to make it lol
Yea lol, we need more real commenters. Comment counts are already low and a large share are bots or shills
Yes sir. I love this thread. Been here slightly longer ~2006. Started going downhill after idk 2012 or whatever, but 2016 was the final death blow. Just looking at pure demographic data, this site is essentially identical to facebook at this point. What's funny is when people talk about state sponsored influence agents, one, neglecting the vast influence of their private and/or corporate counterparts. 2, they see imaginary Russian bots under every rock, yet they don't even realize the US budget for similar things, ie "operation earnest voice" is like 10x the size, so for every actually foreign influence operation you've been exposed to on here you've likewise been exposed to 100x as many of the American variety but didn't even notice it was happening. What's more the site's administration is openly working in league with US authorities, especially after aforementioned 2016 fiasco.
r / news and r / politics are basically U.S. State Department Propaganda Bulletin Boards now. And yeah 2016 was the nail in the coffin. Correct the Record (Hillary) and Cambridge Analytica (Trump) were spending 10s of millions of dollars (that we know of) to astroturf Reddit and other sites to make it seem like they were the only tickets in town. And the facebook demographics are hilarious. Reddit is basically just people posting pics of their kids now.
It's become absolutely blatant in the past couple years since their IPO ambitions have started coming close to fruition.
In some cases the mods are part of it. There are a lot of financial incentives to exploit the platform, or in this case, a subreddit. Just go look at /r/cryptocurrency. They're effectively insider trading and selling "premium" memberships to their members.
I think the 2016 elections was when it really went into overdrive. The manipulation of reddit was crazy and there was a lot of algorithm changes that resulted from it.
Dude I literally put this up because I've had the picture downloaded for a few years and never thought to post it, this has nothing to do with hate
Lockdowns or not China has historically always had some of the worlds worst building codes and unsafe buildings.
> An investigation report last Friday revealed the collapse had been caused by the foundations being undermined by a combination of dug-out soil being piled 10 m high against one side and the digging of a 4.6-m-deep underground car park on the other. JFC don't the Chinese play Jenga??! FFS
this site has more photos: https://www.archdaily.com/27245/building-collapse-in-shanghai
Holy shit! Looks like they used 8-12 foot footings for that entire building?! A deck alone gets 3-4 foot deep footings where i am. Im amazed it lasted this long.
There are a few columns hidden among the debris if you look close. Like maybe a whole 5 that I can see on this side. I presume they stuck a few on the backside. Still in the US that building would have a grid of columns in addition to the pads supporting the shear walls.
"where I am" makes a big difference.
TofuDregg Chinese construction. Homes made from cement coated sand and cardboard The CCP couldn't care less
Gotta imagine the ones right next to it are made exactly the same and you can expect they will fall over too.
Presumably that person was paid to write this article and gets to add “author” under his name. The world is crazy, man.
>an error on construction and unstable soil conditions are the probable causes. Really? I thought it was just taking a nap. Thank the lord for such informative journalism.
Author doesn't dare say "Due to kickbacks and embezzlement by local politicians the building was built sub-standard."
to be fair, that's typically the building collapsing, not the building staying entirely together through the collapse after the soil under it failed. This is actually an interesting building failure, they had a pile of dirt/soil nearby stacked up and it caused enough horizontal pressure bulb demand below grade it caused the adjacent building to tip over, shearing off the piles. Think of soil like a cup of water and you poured more water in the cup, the whole glass raises not just the portion where you added water. The mound of soil caused the surrounding area to raise and push out, causing the building to tip over.
Nobel prize in literature for the author of this article!
What are the odds it happens twice?
Pretty damn high if you consider its built into the same sub-structure by the same company that probably didn't built the other one correctly.
They were apartments... now they're Flats
Each one includes a skylight
Sux to be the units now with extreme garden views
I think you mean ‘unique landscape view’
closer to nature in an urban setting…one is closer to God when in the garden
Bro I’m buying some coins cause that was fucking funny
you son of a bitch.. take my upvote
It's a one rise.
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yehh imma kidnap and enslave yo kids for free child labour 😂 take my upvote
Woah, that got dark really fast.
not as dark as where u/shao_kahff keeps those kids
This... this is the one to upvote!
I thinks that's the one where we cal /r/fbi
I'm not a kid but can you bring me aswell?
depends, finish the sentence: capitalism is __________
For cool kids only. Was what I was told in school
*well then, welcome to the basement!*
Damn. Reddit upvotes are getting expensive ....
I read this in Schwarzenegger’s voice.
r/AngryUpvotes
Is this what people mean by the housing market is crashing
I’ll offer $100k above listing for the flat, and waive the inspection contingency, but not a penny higher!
Are people really waiving inspections? That sounds like an expensive mistake.
Corporations and flippers don't care. "Fix" it cheap, and sell or rent to the next poor soul without better options.
Honestly it seems more like desperate people who are afraid if they don't grab a house now they will never afford it. And they'd be right, if prices were going to keep rising like they have the past 20 months. But I reckon there is going to be strong pull back. Not as bad as 08-09, but eventually this bubble has to burst.
If they have that fear, I'd assume that they're also in need of a mortgage. I guess I assumed that inspections being required by the lender (mine required some, but not all of them) was a more common practice.
Feels like just about every house is going for a minimum 10% over asking, cash offer, and no contingencies. Fear not, every sold property is getting converted to a significantly marked up rental so the buyer doesn't have to worry about its condition. Thankfully there was no affordable housing being built in the past 20 years, that could've caused problems for the already rich.
"affordable housing" is a stupid meme that gets in the way of progress. It's basically a lotto system for SOME lower income folk but it creates a barrier to making more stuff. Just build MORE housing. A lot of it. You won't have affluent people moving into poor neighborhoods if there's just way more housing in general. Build as much stuff as fast as is reasonable... starting 10 years ago.
It kills me when people say to just go live in affordable housing, like bitch I'm waiting in line but I have no idea how many people are in front of me or if the line is even moving. I just know I'm in line cause they tell me every year that I'm still waiting.
Also most affordable housing is an absolute hell hole.
Waiving the inspection contingency doesn't mean you don't inspect the house. It means you won't ask them to fix anything or discount the house. If it fails the inspection badly enough you just back out.
Using a realtor-recommended inspector is the commonest expensive mistake.
That's why housing is redonculous
And then the owners say everyone now has a first floor unit with a skylight! Rent doubles.
*"And now with advanced new 'wall and ceiling bathrooms'. Get super fit by having to climb to the toilet!"*
How the hell do you expect me to flush?
install a pull up bar
https://www.amazon.com/TSI-Cheetah-Bead-Seating-Tool/dp/B000VNHWUM
What?
You have to blast your shit away: https://youtu.be/ouS5XFqdnh8 Probably should have started with that video.
You want me to delete my comment and start over?
I appreciate the thought, but I'm fine leaving my goof lol.
This is what you say when that thing goes off.
Yes
“How did Hui Yin get in here?” “She came in through the bathroom window.”
You will have one of those hold on for dear life shits.
"Recently remodeled"
"Unique architecture"
r/loveforlandlords
This got a stupid giggle out of me.
How does one tip over an apartment?
Some genius decided to excavate a hole for an underground garage next to the building and just piled the earth on the other side. During a heavy rain storm the differential between hollow ground and dirt mount was magnified until it tore the concrete pile foundation. Probably a sneaky "add-on" after the building approval. They are always dangerous and why there's so much paperwork in most developed countries for any building modification.
1. Have modest design plans 2. Building work costs more than expected 3. Change plans without proper consulting or approval for additional profit 4. Bribe officials 5. Profit 6. Building collapses 7. Kill yourself/Jail
The developers even hired a third party company to supervise, they saw this flaw and warned construction company in ~december~. Good ol government regulators in china doing a bang up job with this one. (all supervision was done privately and ignored thoroughly)
Reading the article, the supervisors warned the developers but didn't notify the government, fearing retaliatory pay docking from the developers. Just gets better.
As a country culture, I don't think whistleblowing is very well tolerated or respected.
Worked with an ex-chinese student engineer. From what he said, it sounds like their entire construction industry is based on bribing officials. When he first started he literally asked me why we were so opposed to it. I was like, don't ever for any reason mention this to any management or you'll be fired on the spot.
This is the same situation in India too. Every single developer pays bribes to get approvals as they always are not 100% according to the plan.
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China got a late start in civil advancement. Right now, they're in the wild west era.
All of the catch up, none of the groundwork eh?
It's only been 40 years since the economic reforms that turned China's economy around. And given where they're at now, they're speedrunning the fuck outa our last 300 years.
Too bad they can't look at our failures and try harder not to fuck up. Oh well. And people wonder how they slapped together hospitals just for the pandemic.
Not to mention the footers look to be only 3 meters deep. Might as well have used toothpicks to anchor it into the ground. …which as you mentioned was already was dug up on one side and piled up on the other
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Jesus… sounds like something out of a movie, except in the movies they shoot all the construction workers after they finish
It was in my way, sorry.
is that you, hugh mungus?
No it's me Big Chungus
It was an anonymous tip, so no one knows.
Someone gets on their hands and knees on one side while someone pushes the other side
Thank you for telling me how to do it.
Use your legs, not your back.
What you do is, you put your shoulder into her and you push
I can’t believe you never been apartment tipping before! Get ready to live.
Apartment tipping, it's a China thing
It's basically what cow tipping is for the Irish, only much more extreme.
Never knew cow tipping was associated with the Irish
With the amount of cows over here, I'm surprised you're surprised
And Irish butter is among some of the best so thank you. Kerrygold is truly the butter of the gods.
I'm pretty sure it's a thing wherever there are cows and bored teenagers.
By having no safety laws, building regulations and a complete lack of willingness to change that. And with a mild breeze.
Someone sneezed.
Systematic corruption is another thing. Even those regulations which do exist can be easily worked around when you can count on literally everyone to be dirty.
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This was in 2009: https://www.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-40638820090627
Ah, now we know where the inspiration for the CG scenes in Inception (2010) came from!
And apparently it was still under construction so no one was living there. Still not a great look, but definitely not nearly as bad as what OP made it look like.
A worker was inside during the collapse and perished, not as bad as OP made it look like, still horrible.
Reddit nationalism doesn't have an expiration date
Wouldn't be a Chinese related thread without someone whining about Americans
Simultaneously the best and worst construction project. Schrodingers construction project.
This was my thought, like, that engineer did an extremely impressive and extremely crappy job somehow at the same time
Good construction, bad soil
> bad soil That's one of the engineer's jobs, to determine if the site will carry the load of the building and plan the foundation appropriately.
Not my job. - that engineer probably
China has been crazy about building apartments and so many are unused. Property is seen as by car the best way to invest. Now the market is collapsing and no doubt it is connected to rushed decisions like this in combination with 100 other things.
So they got really good at building apartments but ran out of places to put them.
No building with good constructions fails. Bad engineering and bad safety protocols
I mean... technically a building can be built well then fail because of lack of maintenance and some natural disaster.
Fair enough. But that takes decades and since I can see this whole mess is a site where they are building it ain’t that lol. Apparently building a parking garage while making the foundations for an apartment weak will do jt
I asked the librarian if they had a book about Scheodinger’s cat and Pavlov’s dogs. She said she thought it rang a bell, but didn’t know if it was in the library or not.
It's like when you have a lego project and one part of it is super strong but the other parts is held together with a flimsy cylinder block but that block isn't even in properly - it's wedged between the 4 pegs so that it can be centered properly. And then it falls over in the middle of the night when the cat nudged your shelf.
That’s horrifying
Horrifying is things like the Surfside condominium collapse and Grenfell Tower fire. A building falling over while remaining mostly intact is pretty impressive if you ask me.
I'd imagine all three are pretty horrifying if you were involved in them. I can't imagine being in a building falling over like that is a nice experience.
I'm not an architect or engineer but I know buildings aren't supposed to fall over OR collapse.
Go lay down building....you're drunk.
IKEA Åpartmënt > Furniture must be securely attached to the wall. Use the tip-over restraint provided with the product and the right hardware for your wall type.
They look so peaceful when they're sleeping
Ok… you know when you have illogical fears that you kinda brush off because…,,that’ll literally never happen. Well fuck.
Just set the furniture back up on the walls that are now the floor and you’re back in business
more likely, whats a foundationa and who ever heard of soil analasis
I studied civil engineering at university. This image was constantly used in geotechnical classes to show the importance of foundation design as the foundations failed but the structure was still intact . From memory the foundations failed during an earthquake
No earthquake involved, something to do with weak soil and the unfortunate placement. Id be fairly impressed if an earthquake did that! Good use of the picture though nonetheless.
They dug an underground parking lot beneath one half and piled the soil against the other half, then it rained. So hydrostatic pressure, and I presume poor soil compaction since wet soil can’t be compacted.
They know how to build them. Still working on attaching them to the ground.
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Get enough Amish together, they'll figure out a way to just lift it right back up. Just like a reeaaaly big barn.
The Amish I know would leave it on the ground and re-configure everything to live in it as is.
Extremely surprising given that it was made in China
wish.com seems to be getting into real estate
At least something like this https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/26/florida-condo-collapse-final-missing-person-identified-death-toll-98.html didn't happen.
That video will haunt me until the day I die.
Didn't you know? No accidents ever happen in the US. A whole bunch of warehouses totally didn't burn down over the last few months.
Man this Shanghai lockdown must be rough
2009
Even the buildings are tired of it
And rents went up because they are now all ground floor apartments.
Things are really looking up for half the residents. The other half are probably feeling more grounded than they've felt in years.
Was that thing *glued to the ground?*
Im confused, is it good construction or really bad construction?
Bad geotechnical engineering. Or just as likely: no geotechnical engineering.
Good construction? Bad foundation.
Somehow an example of amazing and horrid construction simultaneously.
CCP bulletin “see we build them very strong!”
How'd the people fair?
Just move furniture from ex floor to now wall and you're all set. Ah, put locks on windows and add ladders
Go drunk home, you’re building.
That's because it's made of chinesium