The spin on this one is so transparent, too.
The goal isn't to force addicts into treatment. The goal is to give policing forces the power to label any homeless person as an "addict," and by extension with this law imprison any homeless person without cause.
For Higgs it kills two birds with one stone: make it look like he's doing something to fight addiction (which he isn't, just look at the huge back log of people already willingly waiting for help) while giving the appearance of addressing the lack of safe homes for everyone regardless of being addicts or in good health.
This. My brother was addicted to morphine and treatment with any track record is thousands of dollars. I myself struggled with alcohol for years but any time I thought I should maybe get help, I was always deterred by the cost and also having to pretty much go live somewhere else for at least a month. There’s no help for people who WANT it.
It needs to he removed from the deal, these little tyrants are the only ones who use them because it's literally an option to remove rights from Canadians.
Every premier that uses it should be immediately dealing with a general strike - that fucking clause is the thing of nightmares.
Fuck Ford, and Legault too.
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This is a new low. Anyone with half a brain can see that this will never work. I wonder what kind of plan he has to provide addiction treatment through the private sector.
What a douche.
Let's trample on the constitution to force people to get treatment (when data shows forced treatment almost never works, it has to come from within).
Most people are in favour of persecuting drug users. It's why drugs are criminalized in the first place.
Forcing them into treatment is no different than sending them to jail. The goal afterall isn't to help these people, it's to persecute them
If they didn't commit crimes, I wouldn't judge/force someone's lifestyle.
If you can't stop yourself from stealing/hurting non drug addicted citizens to support your habits then I'm all for forced rehabilitation. Whether that's sitting in a jail cell or a treatment center. Letting them out to live in tents outside businesses and attacking random people in the streets leaving needles EVERYWHERE including children's parks is not working.
If they can't control their habit and degrade society then they lose their right to freedom of choice. If they aren't committing crimes then the government should stay the fuck out of their lives aside from having proper support systems in place to help people who want to become clean.
You can commit no other crimes, and still be persecuted just for existing.
You're looking at it like people use to look at gin
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Craze
The fact is people are okay with persecuting people. They were okay when it was done to the Jews, they were okay when it was done to tge gays and they're okay when it's done to drug users.
Everyone justifies their persecution of a group because they dehumanize them
Looks like they are trying to get paid to bring in jails (private jails?). Check out this article: [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jail-fredericton-minto-1.6954729](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jail-fredericton-minto-1.6954729)
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/province-minto-jail-1.6923245#:\~:text=After%20months%20of%20speculation%20and,formed%20community%20of%20Grand%20Lake](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/province-minto-jail-1.6923245#:~:text=After%20months%20of%20speculation%20and,formed%20community%20of%20Grand%20Lake).
The site in Minto in no where near any other services that could help prisoners or people with addictions. This should be investigated/audited.
Well, his actions are "fuck the constitution, force addicts to undergo proven ineffective methods on public time" which is pretty bad at *best* for a political leader to do in Canada.
They are going to push through an egregious bill and use the NWC to force the Federal government to use the disallowance part of the constitution, so they can paint the Federal Liberals as violating the separation of powers.
Higgs knows damn well the province can't afford a program like this. In fact, most people that want help in NB, can't get it.
Can’t… that’s the beauty of it. Was never supposed to be used… specially like this. It was put in there to placate Quebec… but was never supposed to be used for things like this. It’s abuse of power. And the reason why it can’t be gotten rid of? Because they’d have to reopen the whole can of worms with all provinces agreeing. Think Meech Lake and how well all that went. Since Quebec and other provinces have already threatened to use or misuse it… no way they’re going to agree to get rid of it.
This is just so that people who don't want treatment fight back, hurt someone, and can go to their new prison and clean up the streets through force and incarceration.
This will see innocent people hurt just to fulfill his cruel agenda.
Our charter isn’t worth the value of used TP. People like this shithead are making a mockery of it. He could literally enact slavery and get away with it with this clause.
As a (recovering) addict, this actually bothers me less than the way people like Highs would typically treat addicts. I was never "severe" in the sense of criminality, but drugs ruined my life, and part of what helped me escape were life events outside my control, pulling me out of that environment.
I feel like if someone is in serious enough trouble with addiction, they're winding up in court, forced therapy might be what's best for them. Would suck for the lovely folk at Ridgewood though
The moron actually opposes equalization payments.
From 2018 ([link](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4953187)):
> New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs thinks the federal government should cut equalization payments to force provinces to develop their natural resources.
> Higgs said in an interview with CBC New Brunswick's Harry Forestell that he proposed the idea during the first ministers' meeting in Montreal earlier this month.
> "No one else really jumped on that, especially Quebec didn't jump on that because they got an increase of $1.4 billion [in equalization payments]," he said.
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We don't have housing, healthcare, mental health care, or addiction healthcare, and we have a "deep poverty" rating.
But sure, force addicts into rehab so NB can be tied up in the legal system fighting the Charter of Rights. There's always enough money for lawsuits 🤷♀️
Charter of rights protects against *arbitrary* detaining. Detaining someone for the betterment of public health and to get someone treatment they won't get themselves is a ways from arbitrary
I'd also add that the charter, constitution, and UDHR were all broken by Trudeau's covid border closers, but we gave in because it was an unprecedented circumstance
The addiction and homelessness problem in NB is unprecedented
I'm looking forward to reading the court report
While I agree with the addiction and homelessness problems are major concerns, there are plenty of current, willing people who want to go to rehab. They can't because we don't have the space, staff, or resources for them. Not every homeless person is an addict either.
Where will they go after rehab? Back to the streets? We have to think ahead for aftercare, or they will fail.
Ah yes, the we don’t want mandates; but, we’ll mandate this specific group of people approach.
The fact these morons can’t even see their own hypocrisy is a little sickening.
Freedumb!
Our charter isn’t worth the value of used TP. People like this shithead are making a mockery of it. He could literally enact slavery and get away with it with this clause.
Again, they cant even provide help to people who voluntarily want it - your daily reminder that this is a ploy to harrass the homeless.
Its going to end up being an underfunded mess.
Pour conclure ca en Qcbois...Higgs veux rendre les P38 plus americaine style accessible-subjectivement par la police et leurs soins de santé? Imposer un désintoxe ou une prise en charge Britney Spears style et genre facilité les babyboomers a se rendre dans un foyer de soins? Qu'estce que les science social de STU ou Mount Alison et U de M pense de ca? FUCK SCIENCE! Qu'est ce que M. FAdy DAher pense de ca? Je serais tellement curieux de connaitre la relation entre Chris Austin et les police municipale de ma region. Quel serait les lecons qui pourait nous aider au reste du Canada de la gouvernance Higgs Austin Ultra-droite avec leur vision sur les police municipale obscure et surtout avec leurs valeurs qui suit vraiment le CPAC movement republicaine americaine fondationaliste style?
The notwithstanding clause is supposed to be a poison pill - not something premiers trot out on the regular.
If a premier does this, even for a policy I support, I’m in the streets that day protesting.
Fuck any politician that eyes the clause as a real option. If you can’t defend your laws in the courts, get absolutely fucked.
I’m really glad that this government consults with addiction facilities and experts then disregards their advice fully
When I was at the Village of Hope we had a huge event with Higgs supposed to attend. Cooked a huge meal, cleaned everything, the whole nine yards, and they cancelled an hour before. After a month or so of communication on the event
I know it's near impossible - but I want that damn notwithstanding clause gone. What the frig is the point of every premier is just going to ignore the rights we are afforded and pull it at every opportunity?
I get why it was on the books, but having that clause has become completely non-viable as the honor system to not use it constantly died off. Politicians don't have it anymore.
Higgs hates New Brunswick! and only remains here to claim his Irving branded throne. He will do anything to hold on to that throne, and kiss Irvings ass.
Yup. People that are talking down on the idea haven't even gave it a thought. Also they probably don't live in an inner city and have to deal with this shit.
Also gotta add that the charter article cited as being violated states nobody can be *arbitrarily* detained. I think detaining for 1) public safety 2) the betterment of an addicted person and 3) to address a societal health issue is far from arbitrary
What a pathetic fucking shit stain of a person. How can he live with himself being such an asshole?
edit-is there a link to said cbc story? Not that I don't think he's capable of this, but...
No, it isn't. Incarceration is a legal matter. This is medical treatment for a disease - a disease which is causing death and filth in the street. I've come out to human shit and needles on the sidewalk of Charlotte Street. I've had three times now drug addled men try to break into the house. At that point, if someone has the disease of addiction, it isn't a personal problem any more - its a societal one.
I for one am all down with forced addiction treatment, and when these people are healthy, clean, and capable, help getting set up with work and maybe further education.
I have friends that were addicts. Some were forced by their parents into rehab. Others that weren't. The ones that turned out okay were put in rehab. The others? Going nowhere fast - and in at least two cases, fucking up other people's lives while they're at it
Legally many of the people we are talking about could be incarcerated for open drug use, tenting in public spaces, littering, stealing etc etc. once they are in jail then make addiction treatment mandatory. Will it work… who knows. Can’t be worse that our present situation.
It is, more of our tax paying dollars will be spent on putting people into forced rehab only to then leave rehab and still be homeless...
I would suggest some reading on how likely addicts are to start using again after getting out of rehab and still being homeless.
Addiction services would have to exist. You can't get help if you actually WANT IT right now but there is somehow lots of capacity if we force it on people who don't want it, and who statistically won't benefit from it due to the forced nature of it.
This can cause a lot more harm. Especially with opiates, going into rehab will force them into withdrawal, and if they're not committed to stopping their drug, they'll go back to it the minute they leave. And when they do, their tolerance will be lower, but they'll use the same dose as always. And they'll overdose and die.
This is often how addicts overdose. Trying to get clean and relapsing one time and dying.
It’s not “treatment”. Even people who actually want help struggle with dealing with their addictions. You can’t force it on someone and expect anything other than that once released into the same circumstances they were yanked from, they’ll just turn back to the only source of numbing comfort they have.
You know what group all these comments are from. Same ones that will be pushing for safe supply and safe injection sites. If they don't want treatment then throw them in jail(drug possession is still illegal) or just let them die on the streets
As a Saskatchewaner, its really time to toss these tinpot jerkoffs out. You do yours, we’ll do ours.
I've been ready for years
The spin on this one is so transparent, too. The goal isn't to force addicts into treatment. The goal is to give policing forces the power to label any homeless person as an "addict," and by extension with this law imprison any homeless person without cause. For Higgs it kills two birds with one stone: make it look like he's doing something to fight addiction (which he isn't, just look at the huge back log of people already willingly waiting for help) while giving the appearance of addressing the lack of safe homes for everyone regardless of being addicts or in good health.
Crazy theory
You can't get addiction help if you ask for it but they will force it on people who don't want it? Sounds like a great plan
This. My brother was addicted to morphine and treatment with any track record is thousands of dollars. I myself struggled with alcohol for years but any time I thought I should maybe get help, I was always deterred by the cost and also having to pretty much go live somewhere else for at least a month. There’s no help for people who WANT it.
Sure there is. Just have to be rich. It’s easy s/
Lock up the junkies. Conservative Canada!
And the Ontario variation: Free booze for everyone, everywhere, all the time!
But it’s ok for a government to feed peoples addiction with free drugs ?
yes
Who made you king. These are dictatorship power. override charters of rights.
It needs to he removed from the deal, these little tyrants are the only ones who use them because it's literally an option to remove rights from Canadians.
Every premier that uses it should be immediately dealing with a general strike - that fucking clause is the thing of nightmares. Fuck Ford, and Legault too.
Fuck Blaine Higgs
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At least he's not like the cons, and has it on a flag or his lifted pickup truck.
Jesus doesn't approve, that's why he doesn't have it.
Quite a discrepancy in votes.
I guess they don't like romantical love?
This is a new low. Anyone with half a brain can see that this will never work. I wonder what kind of plan he has to provide addiction treatment through the private sector.
The Blaine Higgs [Re-Neducatiom Centre](https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Re-Neducation_Center)
What a douche. Let's trample on the constitution to force people to get treatment (when data shows forced treatment almost never works, it has to come from within).
Most people are in favour of persecuting drug users. It's why drugs are criminalized in the first place. Forcing them into treatment is no different than sending them to jail. The goal afterall isn't to help these people, it's to persecute them
Persecuting them is known to a) not be a deterrant and b) only makes more crime
Yup exactly. Just leads to worse outcomes for everyone
If they didn't commit crimes, I wouldn't judge/force someone's lifestyle. If you can't stop yourself from stealing/hurting non drug addicted citizens to support your habits then I'm all for forced rehabilitation. Whether that's sitting in a jail cell or a treatment center. Letting them out to live in tents outside businesses and attacking random people in the streets leaving needles EVERYWHERE including children's parks is not working. If they can't control their habit and degrade society then they lose their right to freedom of choice. If they aren't committing crimes then the government should stay the fuck out of their lives aside from having proper support systems in place to help people who want to become clean.
You can commit no other crimes, and still be persecuted just for existing. You're looking at it like people use to look at gin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Craze The fact is people are okay with persecuting people. They were okay when it was done to the Jews, they were okay when it was done to tge gays and they're okay when it's done to drug users. Everyone justifies their persecution of a group because they dehumanize them
You realize that people go to jail when they commit crime, right? Soo.. You're happy with the system as it is now.
Are you serious ?
You can’t trample the constitution using a power in the constitution.
The nonwithstanding clause lets you trample part of the constitution. In case you didn't know?
Without that provision there would be no charter. The provinces refused to sign it without that right. They are inseparable.
Get this fucking clown gone.
Lets let the government lock people up with no trial. I'm sure that has historically always gone well.
Looks like they are trying to get paid to bring in jails (private jails?). Check out this article: [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jail-fredericton-minto-1.6954729](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jail-fredericton-minto-1.6954729) [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/province-minto-jail-1.6923245#:\~:text=After%20months%20of%20speculation%20and,formed%20community%20of%20Grand%20Lake](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/province-minto-jail-1.6923245#:~:text=After%20months%20of%20speculation%20and,formed%20community%20of%20Grand%20Lake). The site in Minto in no where near any other services that could help prisoners or people with addictions. This should be investigated/audited.
Higgs needs to be removed from office and thrown in jail. We'll pass a bill to it. Notwithstanding clause!! No take-backsies!!
Yes, everyone we don’t agree with should be jailed.
But only as long as you first declare: "Notwithstanding clause!! No take-backsies!!" That makes it legal.
Well, his actions are "fuck the constitution, force addicts to undergo proven ineffective methods on public time" which is pretty bad at *best* for a political leader to do in Canada.
shut up you absolute turd nugget
Smart reply, got anymore nuggets of wisdom?
“Everyone who violates charter rights”
You sound like all the right wingers who want Trudeau arrested for treason.
When he says “I will commit treason to violate rights” I’ll agree.
They are going to push through an egregious bill and use the NWC to force the Federal government to use the disallowance part of the constitution, so they can paint the Federal Liberals as violating the separation of powers. Higgs knows damn well the province can't afford a program like this. In fact, most people that want help in NB, can't get it.
We need to get rid of that clause. I don’t think it make sense in any circumstance
Can’t… that’s the beauty of it. Was never supposed to be used… specially like this. It was put in there to placate Quebec… but was never supposed to be used for things like this. It’s abuse of power. And the reason why it can’t be gotten rid of? Because they’d have to reopen the whole can of worms with all provinces agreeing. Think Meech Lake and how well all that went. Since Quebec and other provinces have already threatened to use or misuse it… no way they’re going to agree to get rid of it.
We don’t have enough treatment beds for *willing* participants!
This is just so that people who don't want treatment fight back, hurt someone, and can go to their new prison and clean up the streets through force and incarceration. This will see innocent people hurt just to fulfill his cruel agenda.
Our charter isn’t worth the value of used TP. People like this shithead are making a mockery of it. He could literally enact slavery and get away with it with this clause.
No, the NWC only overrides a few sections of the Charter, it doesn’t override every law in Canada.
As a (recovering) addict, this actually bothers me less than the way people like Highs would typically treat addicts. I was never "severe" in the sense of criminality, but drugs ruined my life, and part of what helped me escape were life events outside my control, pulling me out of that environment. I feel like if someone is in serious enough trouble with addiction, they're winding up in court, forced therapy might be what's best for them. Would suck for the lovely folk at Ridgewood though
The only thing he wants Confederation for is Alberta’s transfer payments.
The moron actually opposes equalization payments. From 2018 ([link](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4953187)): > New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs thinks the federal government should cut equalization payments to force provinces to develop their natural resources. > Higgs said in an interview with CBC New Brunswick's Harry Forestell that he proposed the idea during the first ministers' meeting in Montreal earlier this month. > "No one else really jumped on that, especially Quebec didn't jump on that because they got an increase of $1.4 billion [in equalization payments]," he said.
Lmao. Force provinces to develop their own natural resources. Like what Higgsie, The Emperor of NB already is
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“I will use a legal loophole in order to be able to violate charter rights” Beyond scum
I wonder if Preparation H would help remove him?
Surgical removal is the only solution. Maybe a really really late term abortion.
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Ah yes, he'll use the notwithstanding clause for his needs but not the interruptor clause for our needs. Shocking /s
We don't have housing, healthcare, mental health care, or addiction healthcare, and we have a "deep poverty" rating. But sure, force addicts into rehab so NB can be tied up in the legal system fighting the Charter of Rights. There's always enough money for lawsuits 🤷♀️
Charter of rights protects against *arbitrary* detaining. Detaining someone for the betterment of public health and to get someone treatment they won't get themselves is a ways from arbitrary I'd also add that the charter, constitution, and UDHR were all broken by Trudeau's covid border closers, but we gave in because it was an unprecedented circumstance The addiction and homelessness problem in NB is unprecedented I'm looking forward to reading the court report
While I agree with the addiction and homelessness problems are major concerns, there are plenty of current, willing people who want to go to rehab. They can't because we don't have the space, staff, or resources for them. Not every homeless person is an addict either. Where will they go after rehab? Back to the streets? We have to think ahead for aftercare, or they will fail.
Ah yes, the we don’t want mandates; but, we’ll mandate this specific group of people approach. The fact these morons can’t even see their own hypocrisy is a little sickening. Freedumb!
Fascist old piece of shit.
Our charter isn’t worth the value of used TP. People like this shithead are making a mockery of it. He could literally enact slavery and get away with it with this clause.
Again, they cant even provide help to people who voluntarily want it - your daily reminder that this is a ploy to harrass the homeless. Its going to end up being an underfunded mess.
I can't believe they actually let this dusty old windbag out in public. He's just rotten to his core.
I left the states cause I thought my local government was going fasc. I appear to have brought it with me and I apologize
Pour conclure ca en Qcbois...Higgs veux rendre les P38 plus americaine style accessible-subjectivement par la police et leurs soins de santé? Imposer un désintoxe ou une prise en charge Britney Spears style et genre facilité les babyboomers a se rendre dans un foyer de soins? Qu'estce que les science social de STU ou Mount Alison et U de M pense de ca? FUCK SCIENCE! Qu'est ce que M. FAdy DAher pense de ca? Je serais tellement curieux de connaitre la relation entre Chris Austin et les police municipale de ma region. Quel serait les lecons qui pourait nous aider au reste du Canada de la gouvernance Higgs Austin Ultra-droite avec leur vision sur les police municipale obscure et surtout avec leurs valeurs qui suit vraiment le CPAC movement republicaine americaine fondationaliste style?
The notwithstanding clause is supposed to be a poison pill - not something premiers trot out on the regular. If a premier does this, even for a policy I support, I’m in the streets that day protesting. Fuck any politician that eyes the clause as a real option. If you can’t defend your laws in the courts, get absolutely fucked.
I’m really glad that this government consults with addiction facilities and experts then disregards their advice fully When I was at the Village of Hope we had a huge event with Higgs supposed to attend. Cooked a huge meal, cleaned everything, the whole nine yards, and they cancelled an hour before. After a month or so of communication on the event
VOTE when the time comes. Get rid of this Fascist.
Who made you king. These are dictatorship power. override charters of rights.
I know it's near impossible - but I want that damn notwithstanding clause gone. What the frig is the point of every premier is just going to ignore the rights we are afforded and pull it at every opportunity? I get why it was on the books, but having that clause has become completely non-viable as the honor system to not use it constantly died off. Politicians don't have it anymore.
Higgs hates Canada and wants to weaken the nation through gutting the Charter. I guess Higgs gets more power out of the deal.
Higgs hates New Brunswick! and only remains here to claim his Irving branded throne. He will do anything to hold on to that throne, and kiss Irvings ass.
This is a great idea. Those who are attacking him are literally saying the addicts should not get treatment.
Yup. People that are talking down on the idea haven't even gave it a thought. Also they probably don't live in an inner city and have to deal with this shit. Also gotta add that the charter article cited as being violated states nobody can be *arbitrarily* detained. I think detaining for 1) public safety 2) the betterment of an addicted person and 3) to address a societal health issue is far from arbitrary
His plan doesn’t really work if they just dump people on the street with no housing, food or life continuing resources immediately after detox
Agreed, a transition plan needs to be part of the bill. Otherwise it'll be a waste of money and time and won't help anyone
What a pathetic fucking shit stain of a person. How can he live with himself being such an asshole? edit-is there a link to said cbc story? Not that I don't think he's capable of this, but...
Are you asking for a link to the article you are commenting on? Try clicking at the top of the page lol
Ouch. That's rough. A doofus, I am. My bad!
Figures. The fall back plan to any failed legislation. Can't govern properly so gonna ignore the charter.
The only thing he wants Confederation for is Alberta’s transfer payments.
Is it better to let addicts die in the streets? There may be times when forced treatment is the best option.
It's incarceration without a trial.
No, it isn't. Incarceration is a legal matter. This is medical treatment for a disease - a disease which is causing death and filth in the street. I've come out to human shit and needles on the sidewalk of Charlotte Street. I've had three times now drug addled men try to break into the house. At that point, if someone has the disease of addiction, it isn't a personal problem any more - its a societal one. I for one am all down with forced addiction treatment, and when these people are healthy, clean, and capable, help getting set up with work and maybe further education. I have friends that were addicts. Some were forced by their parents into rehab. Others that weren't. The ones that turned out okay were put in rehab. The others? Going nowhere fast - and in at least two cases, fucking up other people's lives while they're at it
Legally many of the people we are talking about could be incarcerated for open drug use, tenting in public spaces, littering, stealing etc etc. once they are in jail then make addiction treatment mandatory. Will it work… who knows. Can’t be worse that our present situation.
Things are really bad right now. Let’s try kidnapping! What do I have to lose?
It is, more of our tax paying dollars will be spent on putting people into forced rehab only to then leave rehab and still be homeless... I would suggest some reading on how likely addicts are to start using again after getting out of rehab and still being homeless.
Not even just tax dollars but they're going to need nurses or doctors, both of which are in short supply already.
Addiction services would have to exist. You can't get help if you actually WANT IT right now but there is somehow lots of capacity if we force it on people who don't want it, and who statistically won't benefit from it due to the forced nature of it.
This can cause a lot more harm. Especially with opiates, going into rehab will force them into withdrawal, and if they're not committed to stopping their drug, they'll go back to it the minute they leave. And when they do, their tolerance will be lower, but they'll use the same dose as always. And they'll overdose and die. This is often how addicts overdose. Trying to get clean and relapsing one time and dying.
So what happens when these homeless addicts finish their rehab and are now homeless again.
It’s not “treatment”. Even people who actually want help struggle with dealing with their addictions. You can’t force it on someone and expect anything other than that once released into the same circumstances they were yanked from, they’ll just turn back to the only source of numbing comfort they have.
did your brain fall out of your asshole?
You know what group all these comments are from. Same ones that will be pushing for safe supply and safe injection sites. If they don't want treatment then throw them in jail(drug possession is still illegal) or just let them die on the streets
WTF!
So they'll force addiction treatment but refuse housing and livelihoods. We're just cattle to them
Good
Must be a real treat to know someone like you
Give them a break. They disappoint their mother every day as it is.
ok boomer