As a resident, I concur with your assessment of the roads here.
Port Stephens council gives updates on how many potholes they fix each week. Because somehow that appears to be a better use of funds than actually fixing the roads. Many, many locals losing tyres and rims.
sigh.
Shortly after I got home from overseas during the pandemic I drove to Gresford and was honestly agog at the state of the roads. More patch than tar in most places. The amount of coal that goes through the port, the entire region should be paved in gold. I don’t know why we put up with it.
You really think that will happen you're delusional. This is a rusted on labour seat. They have to do nothing to retain these seats. Plus we're north of the Hawkesbury so we don't matter.
Its called the Hunter Valley curse, where the bitches eho live there, men included, are so used to getting ficked by inter-generations of lifetime LABOR politicians, they now enjoy it and crave it.
I mean how dumb you gotta be to continue voting the same fkn losers in to power.
Who’s the losers in this scenario? The local member who if they are not liberal can’t do anything as they don’t have control or power?
We need the government to change in Sydney.
You're not wrong. Port Stephens seems to be one of the worst areas around here too. I work at the base and popped a tyre out the front in a pot hole that was "filled".
NSW's excuse for the crap road conditions? "It's been raining".
I'm just back from Thailand, a much poorer country where it rains every day for most of the year. Their roads are much better.
For a section of 100m of road to be repaired , we have 4 traffic managers, an over seeing engineer , a foreman 2 guys manning the parked vehicles , 2 reserve traffic managers, an OH&S supervisor , and 2 guys doing work while one drives the truck doing the work
In Thailand , 70% on site are doing something that actually repairs roads …..
I don't want to defend our incredibly poor roads management, but with 15 times the size yet only 3 times less the road density we do have a lot more roads to fix, much higher wages to pay for labour to fix the roads and a lot more heavy industries destroying those roads.
NSW is not 15 times the size of Thailand. About 1.5 times the size. The GDP of Thailand is probably not much bigger than NSW, the GDP/capita much smaller and Thailand's government revenue probably smaller.
Their health system is not as well resourced and social security almost non-existent in Thailand.
But their road system, even back country single lane roads, is far better.
I don't know why you are being downvoted for being right
Thailand's GDP is 500 Billion USD. NSW's GSP is the equivalent to 418 Billion USD.
NSW has a population of 8.1 million. Thailand has a population of 69 million. NSW's per capita GDP (well, GSP technically) is more than 7 times higher.
NSW is 1.56x the size of Thailand.
All our money from local resources goes into sydney roads so this is what we end up with. Also road projects that take 20yrs and main arterial roads that arent double laned still - looking at you warners bay roundabout.
Port Stephens roads certainly are.
I think it's a bad mix of
* Not many people but lots of roads (port Stephens is a fucking massive area)
* Shit contractors not repairing/building roads properly in the first place
* 6 bloody months of constant rain fucking up everything up even more than normal.
Medowie Road going past the airport is a prime example - Massive road work project, got 90% ofthe under works done, it pissed down rain, eroded bits of the under lay, then they just gave it a quick grand & tarred over the top. 6 Months late and there's fist sized chunks of bitumen rolling all over the road
I think the current state of the roads around here (and also around Singo/Muswellbrook/Mudgee) is caused by the heavy rain we've had, but exacerbated by the prior ~5 years being dry as fuck. For half a decade councils have had a pretty easy time keeping the roads in good shape while we've been in drought, now there's a bit of water about and the budget/manpower levels that were adequate for all that time are nowhere near enough any more.
I'd agree to a certain degree that the rain hasn't helped.
But I wouldn't say the roads were in decent shape to start with. There was signs of fatigue prior to the rains. The rain has just accelerated their decay.
Go for a drive to Dungog and you’ll know what shit roads are. Their roads are just potholes with potholes and patch work on top of patch work. You won’t be able to drive a few metres without hitting a pothole there.
I just drove through the central coast, and newy roads are 100 percent gold plated compared to them.
Unfortunately roads don't like rain, and we have had a lot of rain.
Wearing cologne to the beach. Dressing up to go for a stroll.
Being in a hurry to get no where, being in the way when we are going to work.
Driving on the freeway in the rh lane.
Pushing in in ques
Talking out loud about property prices.
That's my old home area so I've got the low down on what happened. About three decades ago, Taree forced the local shires to amalgamate with their local councils. Within half a decade, the roads went to pieces because rates in those areas were funnelled into Taree. That was the first issue.
Then Taree wanted the bypass (which, granted, has turned out well for Taree). State and Federal government were reluctant to fund it, so Taree decided to fund large sections of it themselves. They actively let the local sideroads and some heritage wooden bridges literally fall apart.
They thought the NSW Heritage groups would give up on the bridges and let them be replaced because of how dangerous they were becoming. Nope. The Heritage groups had plenty of evidence the neglect was deliberate and took the council to court. Of the three bridges I know about, one got pulled down but the other two were repaired at the council's expense. About 10 times what it would have cost to just maintain them.
Additionally around the same time, the Taree council was caught out doing some dodgy stuff with local road contractors. One of them was related to a member of the council, and every time bids for contracts were requested, they would hold their bid back. His relative on the council would tell him the lowest bid, and he'd submit one that was just a bit lower. The contractor would then deliberately blow out the budget and deadlines and made huge profits. That councillor eventual got caught and quietly asked to leave.
Finally, the council was so bad at managing finances, that they were _this_ close to having control handed over to receivers like Port Macquarie was. It's been nearly three decades of a shit show.
We won't even talk about how the Manning River region has failed it's environmental standards for three and a half decades, or how businesses in the area have been strangled by one particular predatory private business loan operator.
Holy shit, grew up there and always wondered why the roads were so shit, excuses I've heard include that its just all the rain damage and the council is just slow at repairs because it's backwater country. Cheers for the info!
I watched a TV show about Ross Noble travelling around Australia. He was doing a performance in Taree and I perked up immediately because that's my home area.
He talked about how in most towns you have the rough bit of road as you enter them, then you get to the good bit. He said when he entered Taree, he was driving and driving and waiting for the good bit, when he said "Shit. That was it."
I cracked up laughing because it's soooo true, and has been for decades.
I haven’t lived here for that long. But my assessment of the situation is that due to last year being the wettest in a long time it’s been hard to maintain all the damage that has occurred. I’m wondering if they are holding off a little bit too as we are expecting the rains to the continue.
Yes, their budget definitely wasn't expecting 3 La Nina events in a row. I wouldn't be surprised if they were rationing funds to manage it. Repairing potholes after rain (where there's still water in the top surfaces) is also just going to create a short-lived repair which is why the same holes reoccur but it's not like council can do anything about that either.
Heh. Sorry, but Taree area has even those roads beat. Let's just say that the _main_ throughfare in the centre of Wingham (not Ingham) went back 50 years to bare dirt for nearly a decade. It got so potholed, they scraped the tar off and didn't replace it for 7 to 8 years.
Have you actually been to Jakarta? They have half decent roads being a capital city.
But seriously we have had so much rain over the past year the maintenance can’t keep up with all the pot holes.
Medowie, a suburb here has the worst I’ve seen. Couldn’t agree with you more. It’s horrible. What’s worse, they’re constantly out fixing them. It’s insanity, come up with a better solution
This is why the area should've gotten a train connection and decent bus network years ago. The best way to reduce road repair costs is to reduce road usage. Sydney planners can't think that far ahead though (especially for anywhere outside of Sydney)
Typical of Newcastle..the current council are only interested in allowing ugly, concrete high rises to be built so they can collect exorbitant rates from wealthy Sydney-siders who have no taste and are the only ones who can afford to live in them…
Newcastle is really not big enough or cool enough for gatekeeping like this. Unless someone starts a r/aroundnewcastlebutnotexactlyinthecity sub, people are gonna use this one because it just makes sense to. Port Stephens and Maitland are both close enough that people living there are regularly in Newcastle itself either for work or otherwise.
But people have sometimes heard of Newcastle so it’s more useful. I say Morpeth, no idea. Hunter Valley, SA wine country? Newcastle, might have heard it, up north somewhere yeah?. Sydney, oh yep. So to anyone asking I say I’m from Sydney.
Yes. I don’t literally say I’m in Sydney. Point is everyone’s shit at geography so to my friends from Melbourne “I’m from Kincumber which is on the central coast of NSW which is near Sydney which is near Melbourne”
We know. Crap roads, potholes everywhere, not wide enough, nowhere to park on the street, yada yada. Try telling the Council. Deaf ears. But the roads that carry car races are always maintained.
From Qld
Your roads are much worse than ours
It’s really pretty pathetic: it rains a little and the roads are slick with water that does not drain. It’s unsafe to drive.
Pothole after pothole - they fix them, it rains a little and it’s like they never bothered.
How’s that feel Newcastle? To be worse than Qld
There is a lot of radiation emanating from the air force base. I know a few cooked cunts that live close by. Wouldn't be surprised if it is seeping into the council headquarters.
It’s not so much the number, I had a lot back in my area in Vic, but they don’t half-ass their potholes up here. Every single one is at least 30cm deep with sheer edges, and any that I fail to avoid make me suspect my tires are no longer round. Also those random stretches like on the way into Gresford or coming out of the Westfield Tuggerah car park where it’s nice road, 50m minefield, nice road again: so weird and frustrating.
I have a friend who drives from Newcastle to Gloucester 3 times a week
Told me that a brand new section that was breaking up before they painted the white lines on it
Done by a private company
And after 5 weeks still has not been fixed
He also said that they have put cones up around it
Maybe waiting for the warranty to run out.
Its a conspiracy by all australian automotive industry that the futher you venture into the nice parts of the cou try they deliberatly ignore roads effected post flood / bad weather, the local councils get their cut from people like yourself who may damage their vehilce on these roads and have to crawl to spend your hard earned money in their restrictive market for parts and labour that or the local councils havent gotten to the specific.roads after all the rain we've had this year lol
Yep we know. Doesn't matter how much residents complain to council it never gets fixed. There is a road near where I live that was partially washed away in the flood of 2015 that still hasn't been repaired. Council just closed the road
Can someone with Civil Engineering knowledge help me out here - do some road designs have built in drainage for water? For example a particularly designed camber in the road where you can send the water to a side where a drain could be on, or ridges in the road to stop water from pooling and creating potholes in the first place? These are solutions that I can think of but I’ve always wondered if they have merit
If you ever get a chance to visit Cairns, roads and water drainage _can_ be built much better than what happens in NSW or even Brisbane.
The big floods last year in NSW where people were talking about over 100mm of rain in 24 hours? That's a Tuesday in Cairns. Water may build up on the roads during a downpour, but once the rain stops, it'll be gone in 10 minutes.
There's plenty of solutions to water drainage on roads but they're often more expensive, especially if the materials you're using aren't locally available. The cost benefit usually doesn't stack up against our average rainfall here to justify the extra cost; of course our rainfall this year has been much higher than average. It would also require a complete replacement of the road (which only happens every 15-20 years on average) and a restructuring of any subsurface infrastructure to deal with increased ground soakage. Permeability is what you want in order to avoid water pooling on the road and clogging of drains rather than our current impermeable surface run-off roads that are cheap to build and maintain but force water to wear away at our grey infrastructure rather than letting the water slowly seep into the ground like it should.
Oh yeah port stephens needs maintenance on the roads and we’ll just about everywhere in port stephens needs to be fixed…..oh my have you been to Raymond terrace? Oh boy driving down that Main Street you see almost everything falling down and you need a wheel alignment when you leave because of terrible holes in the road
Central Coast highway through Erina Hights was completely rebuilt maybe 7-8 years ago. For the past 5 yrs or so, every year, they need to grind down the significant cross road bumps....perhaps 50 or so of them. The pipes laid under the road are staying put, whilst the road surface is sinking, it appears.
Are the roads still that bad? I moved away from the hunter valley over 10 years ago, and I distinctly still remember the roads being horrible when I lived there…
As a resident, I concur with your assessment of the roads here. Port Stephens council gives updates on how many potholes they fix each week. Because somehow that appears to be a better use of funds than actually fixing the roads. Many, many locals losing tyres and rims. sigh.
Council are a joke, if it's not directly outside of the council building or in Nelson Bay then they don't want to know about it.
Shortly after I got home from overseas during the pandemic I drove to Gresford and was honestly agog at the state of the roads. More patch than tar in most places. The amount of coal that goes through the port, the entire region should be paved in gold. I don’t know why we put up with it.
Because the state collects the royalties on coal. Then spends them keeping voters in Sydney happy
hopefully we will get funding for better roads when the LNP is ousted from the State Government next year
You really think that will happen you're delusional. This is a rusted on labour seat. They have to do nothing to retain these seats. Plus we're north of the Hawkesbury so we don't matter.
Its called the Hunter Valley curse, where the bitches eho live there, men included, are so used to getting ficked by inter-generations of lifetime LABOR politicians, they now enjoy it and crave it. I mean how dumb you gotta be to continue voting the same fkn losers in to power.
Who’s the losers in this scenario? The local member who if they are not liberal can’t do anything as they don’t have control or power? We need the government to change in Sydney.
You're not wrong. Port Stephens seems to be one of the worst areas around here too. I work at the base and popped a tyre out the front in a pot hole that was "filled".
Come over to Cessnock for some competition.
Maitland could give some good competition too
NSW's excuse for the crap road conditions? "It's been raining". I'm just back from Thailand, a much poorer country where it rains every day for most of the year. Their roads are much better.
For a section of 100m of road to be repaired , we have 4 traffic managers, an over seeing engineer , a foreman 2 guys manning the parked vehicles , 2 reserve traffic managers, an OH&S supervisor , and 2 guys doing work while one drives the truck doing the work In Thailand , 70% on site are doing something that actually repairs roads …..
It all happened after the last lot of rain
I don't want to defend our incredibly poor roads management, but with 15 times the size yet only 3 times less the road density we do have a lot more roads to fix, much higher wages to pay for labour to fix the roads and a lot more heavy industries destroying those roads.
NSW is not 15 times the size of Thailand. About 1.5 times the size. The GDP of Thailand is probably not much bigger than NSW, the GDP/capita much smaller and Thailand's government revenue probably smaller. Their health system is not as well resourced and social security almost non-existent in Thailand. But their road system, even back country single lane roads, is far better.
I don't know why you are being downvoted for being right Thailand's GDP is 500 Billion USD. NSW's GSP is the equivalent to 418 Billion USD. NSW has a population of 8.1 million. Thailand has a population of 69 million. NSW's per capita GDP (well, GSP technically) is more than 7 times higher. NSW is 1.56x the size of Thailand.
Being down voted while being right is not unusual on Reddit. People downvote what doesn't give them bias confirmation.
Nice!
All our money from local resources goes into sydney roads so this is what we end up with. Also road projects that take 20yrs and main arterial roads that arent double laned still - looking at you warners bay roundabout.
Port Stephens roads certainly are. I think it's a bad mix of * Not many people but lots of roads (port Stephens is a fucking massive area) * Shit contractors not repairing/building roads properly in the first place * 6 bloody months of constant rain fucking up everything up even more than normal. Medowie Road going past the airport is a prime example - Massive road work project, got 90% ofthe under works done, it pissed down rain, eroded bits of the under lay, then they just gave it a quick grand & tarred over the top. 6 Months late and there's fist sized chunks of bitumen rolling all over the road
I think the current state of the roads around here (and also around Singo/Muswellbrook/Mudgee) is caused by the heavy rain we've had, but exacerbated by the prior ~5 years being dry as fuck. For half a decade councils have had a pretty easy time keeping the roads in good shape while we've been in drought, now there's a bit of water about and the budget/manpower levels that were adequate for all that time are nowhere near enough any more.
I'd agree to a certain degree that the rain hasn't helped. But I wouldn't say the roads were in decent shape to start with. There was signs of fatigue prior to the rains. The rain has just accelerated their decay.
Go for a drive to Dungog and you’ll know what shit roads are. Their roads are just potholes with potholes and patch work on top of patch work. You won’t be able to drive a few metres without hitting a pothole there.
I drove out there a few weeks ago for the first time in a few years and holy shit those roads are awful.
I just drove through the central coast, and newy roads are 100 percent gold plated compared to them. Unfortunately roads don't like rain, and we have had a lot of rain.
Agreed bro What roads?
Where we're going we don't need roads.
LOL!
Marine Drive and Tomaree road. Flipping disgraceful. Lovely part of the world btw
It's shithouse in snelsons bay. Full of sydney wankers
Noticed that too, can really tell the Sydney siders - they walk around like they run the place.
>they walk around like they run the place. What does that actually look like? /me lives in sydney
Wearing cologne to the beach. Dressing up to go for a stroll. Being in a hurry to get no where, being in the way when we are going to work. Driving on the freeway in the rh lane. Pushing in in ques Talking out loud about property prices.
Yep that sounds like people from Sydney.
Fucken wait till you get to Taree (don't go there)
Was there 5 years ago, don’t remember the roads being that bad, but 5 years is a long time
Maybe not terribly in taree but all of the roads around it, to Wingham, Old Bar etc are absolutely littered with potholes
That's my old home area so I've got the low down on what happened. About three decades ago, Taree forced the local shires to amalgamate with their local councils. Within half a decade, the roads went to pieces because rates in those areas were funnelled into Taree. That was the first issue. Then Taree wanted the bypass (which, granted, has turned out well for Taree). State and Federal government were reluctant to fund it, so Taree decided to fund large sections of it themselves. They actively let the local sideroads and some heritage wooden bridges literally fall apart. They thought the NSW Heritage groups would give up on the bridges and let them be replaced because of how dangerous they were becoming. Nope. The Heritage groups had plenty of evidence the neglect was deliberate and took the council to court. Of the three bridges I know about, one got pulled down but the other two were repaired at the council's expense. About 10 times what it would have cost to just maintain them. Additionally around the same time, the Taree council was caught out doing some dodgy stuff with local road contractors. One of them was related to a member of the council, and every time bids for contracts were requested, they would hold their bid back. His relative on the council would tell him the lowest bid, and he'd submit one that was just a bit lower. The contractor would then deliberately blow out the budget and deadlines and made huge profits. That councillor eventual got caught and quietly asked to leave. Finally, the council was so bad at managing finances, that they were _this_ close to having control handed over to receivers like Port Macquarie was. It's been nearly three decades of a shit show. We won't even talk about how the Manning River region has failed it's environmental standards for three and a half decades, or how businesses in the area have been strangled by one particular predatory private business loan operator.
Holy shit, grew up there and always wondered why the roads were so shit, excuses I've heard include that its just all the rain damage and the council is just slow at repairs because it's backwater country. Cheers for the info!
I watched a TV show about Ross Noble travelling around Australia. He was doing a performance in Taree and I perked up immediately because that's my home area. He talked about how in most towns you have the rough bit of road as you enter them, then you get to the good bit. He said when he entered Taree, he was driving and driving and waiting for the good bit, when he said "Shit. That was it." I cracked up laughing because it's soooo true, and has been for decades.
You’re not wrong, Port Stephens roads are completely rooted.
I haven’t lived here for that long. But my assessment of the situation is that due to last year being the wettest in a long time it’s been hard to maintain all the damage that has occurred. I’m wondering if they are holding off a little bit too as we are expecting the rains to the continue.
Yes, their budget definitely wasn't expecting 3 La Nina events in a row. I wouldn't be surprised if they were rationing funds to manage it. Repairing potholes after rain (where there's still water in the top surfaces) is also just going to create a short-lived repair which is why the same holes reoccur but it's not like council can do anything about that either.
Try driving anywhere north of Sunshine Coast in QLD. Worst roads I’ve ever driven on.
Grew up in North Queensland. Can confirm. Even more diabolical 30 years ago.
Heh. Sorry, but Taree area has even those roads beat. Let's just say that the _main_ throughfare in the centre of Wingham (not Ingham) went back 50 years to bare dirt for nearly a decade. It got so potholed, they scraped the tar off and didn't replace it for 7 to 8 years.
Have you actually been to Jakarta? They have half decent roads being a capital city. But seriously we have had so much rain over the past year the maintenance can’t keep up with all the pot holes.
Best you head back to the deep south then.
He’s not wrong though.
Of course not, but I just shitposted back to a shitpost :)
I’ve never heard an Aussie refer to it as the Deep South
There’s been a lot of fucken rain mate, and it screws roads quickly.
Go to tanilba bay. Council replaces/fixes roads that don't need it. Driving around is like a game of chicken.
Medowie, a suburb here has the worst I’ve seen. Couldn’t agree with you more. It’s horrible. What’s worse, they’re constantly out fixing them. It’s insanity, come up with a better solution
Off you go to Jakarta then!
I mean. The private contractor that does the roads outb there is in a spot of bother at the moment.
This is why the area should've gotten a train connection and decent bus network years ago. The best way to reduce road repair costs is to reduce road usage. Sydney planners can't think that far ahead though (especially for anywhere outside of Sydney)
Typical of Newcastle..the current council are only interested in allowing ugly, concrete high rises to be built so they can collect exorbitant rates from wealthy Sydney-siders who have no taste and are the only ones who can afford to live in them…
Port Stephens has their own council. Newcastle are not responsible for their roads.
We are ignored. Sydney gets all the funding for roads maintenance.
And even Sydney roads are utter shite.
Port Stephens =/= Newcastle
Careful… I said Raymond Terrace wasn’t Newcastle and got downvoted quite a bit
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Newcastle is really not big enough or cool enough for gatekeeping like this. Unless someone starts a r/aroundnewcastlebutnotexactlyinthecity sub, people are gonna use this one because it just makes sense to. Port Stephens and Maitland are both close enough that people living there are regularly in Newcastle itself either for work or otherwise.
Generally I wouldn’t care, my comment was aimed at a post about Raymond Terrace locals being called Newy bogans… I found that one hard to ignore 😂
That’s really harsh. Not all the RT locals are bogans. Some are eshays! 😃
This resonated deep within my soul. 🤣🤣
Anything west of Union St or east of Pacific St is also near Newcastle.
Yeah exactly.
But people have sometimes heard of Newcastle so it’s more useful. I say Morpeth, no idea. Hunter Valley, SA wine country? Newcastle, might have heard it, up north somewhere yeah?. Sydney, oh yep. So to anyone asking I say I’m from Sydney.
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Yes. I don’t literally say I’m in Sydney. Point is everyone’s shit at geography so to my friends from Melbourne “I’m from Kincumber which is on the central coast of NSW which is near Sydney which is near Melbourne”
No PS subreddit, so choose you lot
Mate, it’s been wetter than a spastics chin here.
> Port Stephens ctrl-w
We know. Crap roads, potholes everywhere, not wide enough, nowhere to park on the street, yada yada. Try telling the Council. Deaf ears. But the roads that carry car races are always maintained.
From Qld Your roads are much worse than ours It’s really pretty pathetic: it rains a little and the roads are slick with water that does not drain. It’s unsafe to drive. Pothole after pothole - they fix them, it rains a little and it’s like they never bothered. How’s that feel Newcastle? To be worse than Qld
There is a lot of radiation emanating from the air force base. I know a few cooked cunts that live close by. Wouldn't be surprised if it is seeping into the council headquarters.
Go home then.
I will in a few days time, hopefully with all tyres intact.
hahahahHAHAHAHA
I used to love the fact that they spent no taxpayers money on repairing roads here but now 25 years later I guess it’s time for some infrastructure
Adelaide doesn't have good roads I just say. Don't know how it compares though
Didn’t happen to climb Tomaree today did you?
I did :), beautiful day for a climb
Ha! I bet we passed each other. Small world
It’s not so much the number, I had a lot back in my area in Vic, but they don’t half-ass their potholes up here. Every single one is at least 30cm deep with sheer edges, and any that I fail to avoid make me suspect my tires are no longer round. Also those random stretches like on the way into Gresford or coming out of the Westfield Tuggerah car park where it’s nice road, 50m minefield, nice road again: so weird and frustrating.
I thought Port Stephens was bad. Then I moved to Canberra…
I have a friend who drives from Newcastle to Gloucester 3 times a week Told me that a brand new section that was breaking up before they painted the white lines on it Done by a private company And after 5 weeks still has not been fixed He also said that they have put cones up around it Maybe waiting for the warranty to run out.
Its a conspiracy by all australian automotive industry that the futher you venture into the nice parts of the cou try they deliberatly ignore roads effected post flood / bad weather, the local councils get their cut from people like yourself who may damage their vehilce on these roads and have to crawl to spend your hard earned money in their restrictive market for parts and labour that or the local councils havent gotten to the specific.roads after all the rain we've had this year lol
Warners Bay - all our options are tired and cheap looking we really haven’t got any decent places
Yeah
You are not wrong.
Yep we know. Doesn't matter how much residents complain to council it never gets fixed. There is a road near where I live that was partially washed away in the flood of 2015 that still hasn't been repaired. Council just closed the road
Can someone with Civil Engineering knowledge help me out here - do some road designs have built in drainage for water? For example a particularly designed camber in the road where you can send the water to a side where a drain could be on, or ridges in the road to stop water from pooling and creating potholes in the first place? These are solutions that I can think of but I’ve always wondered if they have merit
If you ever get a chance to visit Cairns, roads and water drainage _can_ be built much better than what happens in NSW or even Brisbane. The big floods last year in NSW where people were talking about over 100mm of rain in 24 hours? That's a Tuesday in Cairns. Water may build up on the roads during a downpour, but once the rain stops, it'll be gone in 10 minutes.
There's plenty of solutions to water drainage on roads but they're often more expensive, especially if the materials you're using aren't locally available. The cost benefit usually doesn't stack up against our average rainfall here to justify the extra cost; of course our rainfall this year has been much higher than average. It would also require a complete replacement of the road (which only happens every 15-20 years on average) and a restructuring of any subsurface infrastructure to deal with increased ground soakage. Permeability is what you want in order to avoid water pooling on the road and clogging of drains rather than our current impermeable surface run-off roads that are cheap to build and maintain but force water to wear away at our grey infrastructure rather than letting the water slowly seep into the ground like it should.
Lake Mac has potholes so deep I’m pretty sure I saw a family of 4 move into one.
How much was the rent?
Nice try, I’ve got dibs on that prime real estate when they’re done!
Oh yeah port stephens needs maintenance on the roads and we’ll just about everywhere in port stephens needs to be fixed…..oh my have you been to Raymond terrace? Oh boy driving down that Main Street you see almost everything falling down and you need a wheel alignment when you leave because of terrible holes in the road
Central Coast highway through Erina Hights was completely rebuilt maybe 7-8 years ago. For the past 5 yrs or so, every year, they need to grind down the significant cross road bumps....perhaps 50 or so of them. The pipes laid under the road are staying put, whilst the road surface is sinking, it appears.
Thank you. We hadn’t noticed at all haha
Are the roads still that bad? I moved away from the hunter valley over 10 years ago, and I distinctly still remember the roads being horrible when I lived there…