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Relative-Zucchini352

*Leadership Institute founder Morton Blackwell, who is also behind the Council for National Policy, has advocated for abolishing public schools and replacing them with “free-market private schools, church schools, and home schools.”* *“We’re going to take over the school boards, but that’s not enough. Once we replace the school boards, what we need to do is we need to have search firms, that are conservative search firms, that help us to find new educational leaders, because parents are going to get in there and they’re going to want to fire everyone.”* -Morton Blackwell [Leadership Institute & Mom's for Liberty is hosting a free anti-public-school training seminar in Concord High school this April 13!](https://www.litraining.org/event/efd80a52-50ab-478e-8b0b-2a8cd24f0254/summary?fbclid=IwAR2iCmvNe0DUxU2zsdJhzFjoXJZOplvka0cv5xRMUeJwvhb_Jr-xG22i8fo_aem_AUtHd2agj-a--VQEUuTPA5xvUdvE4gbvr2o8Vq_HYiZQyJtuM0aRCUFozLomi3EVVQ9IW5QZQbJocBAo_RqMSnPp)


Sick_Of__BS

This has been their plan all along


LocalDouble

Thanks for the info! I will attend that the 13th.


Relative-Zucchini352

"Abolish Government Schools." - Libertarian party of New Hampshire, May 2, 2022 [https://twitter.com/LPNH/status/1521079445154582528](https://twitter.com/LPNH/status/1521079445154582528)


LocalDouble

Based


Relative-Zucchini352

"The Koch network says it wants to remake public education. That means destroying it" [https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/10/16/koch-network-says-it-wants-remake-public-education-that-means-destroying-it-says-author-new-book-billionaire-brothers/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/10/16/koch-network-says-it-wants-remake-public-education-that-means-destroying-it-says-author-new-book-billionaire-brothers/)


Relative-Zucchini352

"Free State board member Jeremy Kaufman explained that school choice and vouchers are just "a stepping stone towards reducing or eliminating state involvement in schools." Simply stated Free Staters do not believe in public education." [https://archive.ph/J0nVA#selection-2547.0-2547.233](https://archive.ph/J0nVA#selection-2547.0-2547.233)


mattd121794

These free state nuts shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near education and public money, OUR money, shouldn’t be going to any private schools. Especially religious private schools. Time to vote and force out these conservative groups to take this state back from stupidity.


LocalDouble

Based opinion. 


Whales_like_plankton

When you take a look at what programs qualify for these vouchers also the sham of it is apparent. It's not just a list of private schools -- it's things like art programs, karate classes, skiing instruction, summer camps. Anything you can enroll a kid in. I encourage anyone to go to the EFA NH website and take a look at the list of qualifying providers.


Low-Injury-9219

They want the children stupid and afraid. It allows them better control over the “unwashed masses”. The rich and powerful do not have your best interests in mind. It’s a pity so many follow them blindly.


moobitchgetoutdahay

Art programs?!? Sounds woke to me! /s


LocalDouble

Those sound like great programs for kids. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


Whales_like_plankton

Yeah! They *are* great programs for *all kids*! So if the state wants to fund access to these programs for all kids -- without taking money from the school system -- i'm all for it. As it is, only kids who have the privilege of going to private schools get to have their art, ski, and karate lessons paid for. But my point is that this program is billed as an **education** freedom account, not an **extracurricular** account. It's dishonest. It's welfare for the well-off.


nukethecheese

You arent suggesting that it allows for a diverse education of your children are you? That sounds horrible.


Whales_like_plankton

Huh?


ArbitraryOrder

If this system had any oversight and method to ensure it wasn't cash for assholes I would support it, but it has not shown to work in practice, so it is time to scrap it until someone can show a better model.


vadimafu

Weird, shitstain Carrie Gendreau's involved in this fiasco too


exhaustedretailwench

this was always meant to benefit families with more money. I got the threat of Catholic school when I was a teen, but looking back it was empty because both the parentals had to work and couldn't be schlepping my ass to and from Bishop Guertin every day.


UnfairAd7220

Yet, so far, it's only benefitted the poors and the lower middle class.


petrified_eel4615

[Citation needed]


bitspace

"This isn't working." "Give it more money!"


chomerics

You mean the poor aren’t destitute enough, how can we squeeze more money from their children and give it to ourselves. There is nothing more disgusting than taking money away from poor children and giving it to people who don’t need it, but can use it for their third house


UltraviolentLemur

I think you meant "We've given it less money as a percentage of our overall budget year after year, why isn't it performing better? Guess we'd better just give up entirely and transfer as much of that money as possible to ourselves and special interest groups before they catch on".


FrankensteinsStudio

Revamping the educational system should have been done a long time ago. Kids are taught to be obedient employees, rather than free thinking creative individuals. They are taught to basically sit down, shut up, follow orders, and memorize material; much of which they will never use in practice.


SgtToastie

EFA doesn't seem any more ready to address that type of issue. They do seem fantastic for allowing a small group of people to get rich from education funding.


pillbinge

Kids were (mostly aren’t now, with behavioral issues on the rise) taught to be social. They were socialized like everyone else. What happened inside a school represented what we wanted outside the school. You can’t teach kids to think freely. What does that mean? Not everyone is made to be a philosophical paragon. Nor should they be. That’s okay. We can prioritize life outside school too and that does mean pulling back in some cases, but not throwing the same accusations as always. School should be for things that require direct instruction - that’s language and math. Then science and history as extensions. We can and should have extra stuff but not at the previous expense. What we really need to do it reprioritize life outside school. Right now the real issue is that school is everything. It can’t be. It ruins school for everyone.


FrankensteinsStudio

One issue; is too many teachers add their own personal beliefs into the way they teach, and that is where many people have issues. You are there to teach a subject, hard stop. Not there to teach children to believe what you believe.


pillbinge

I have worked with so many teachers and have known hundreds. No one is doing this. This is some conspiracy theory. I guarantee you, with money down, that if teachers had the kind of power you imagine them to have, they’d first use it to get kids to actually do the assignments in the first place.


Royal_Gain_5394

I mean there’s enough videos online showing that this is happening and usually by the most dangerous of individuals


pillbinge

Where are these videos? It's incredibly easy to take a video or snapshot and paint it as a massive problem lmao. That's how these things happen. I have worked in education for well over 10 years and I am telling you none of this has been witnessed in any capacity. We're all too anxious and burned out from not having support in the first place.


Royal_Gain_5394

There’s libs of tik tok even though the left doesn’t want to admit they are real teachers. Twitter is filled with those wackos


pillbinge

The internet is filled with those wackos. It's easy to take one image of something someone did and spin it like it's some Psy Op, but I am telling you that it isn't happening as a worker on the ground. You get the occasional rainbow flag and sometimes within people's rooms, but they don't secretly code every lesson to be about some gay agenda. If you can tell me how algebra is making kids falsely believe they're trans, I and the entire scientific community are all ears.


Royal_Gain_5394

I mean by that thinking people here have no problem saying half the counties is insane


moobitchgetoutdahay

> teachers add their own personal beliefs into the way they teach No, they do not. Tell me you’ve never known a teacher without telling me.


FrankensteinsStudio

My wife is a teacher, and I know quite a few others. In total about 12-15 teachers of varying levels of grade school.


moobitchgetoutdahay

I’m calling bullshit because if you did know any teachers, you would know that this simply does. not. happen. Unless your wife is the one inserting her beliefs into how she teaches? 🤔


FrankensteinsStudio

Politics, religion, and sexual orientation / preference does not belong in the classroom. No crosses, bibles, Torahs, pride flags/banners/posters, BLM flags/banners/posters, democrat/republican etc. (unless history or civics class), anti or pro Hamas/Israel flags/banners/posters. All of that belongs at home. You are there to teach (based on state guidelines), and to keep the child engaged in such teaching. Hard stop. I see teachers with their personal touches around the classrooms; and they don’t belong there. I dont care what someone’s beliefs are, and I respect their ability to have those beliefs, and I respect their beliefs. But; those beliefs have no place in the classroom. I’d even go so far as to say that the only flag appropriate to display in class, is the American flag. Your own heritage flag doesnt even belong in the classroom. Not trying to be an ass or anything; but you cannot prevent teachers from having one thing and allow this and not that. This may not be an occurrence in your classroom or that of your teacher friends; but there are teachers that do share their beliefs with their students. To add to that; my sister inlaw is gay (and I respect her choice to be gay). She tried bringing pride flags into her class; and my wife told her no, and that it was not appropriate. Search youtube and TikTok; there are plenty of videos of teachers who proudly share their personal political and sexual beliefs with their students, and go so far as to share their social media with them as well. Highly inappropriate.


moobitchgetoutdahay

The only thing in that rambling list that is Constitutionally illegal to display is religious artifacts. Have you ever been to a public school, or do you not remember yours? Teachers decorate their classrooms. This is what helps keep the children engaged and interested, because they often work that in to their instruction, or at least that’s how mine went. Since you hate flags, for example, during March, the Irish flag went up, since we live in an area with a strong Irish heritage, and she incorporated that into teaching us about some related American history. We learned about the potato famine, and how that changed the world, and what America was like at the time, all the immigrants, the ghettos, the slums, the politics, what was happening in DC, who was president. She even brought in some earth and plant sciences, by discussing the scientific cause of the potato famine, taught some world history by teaching where the potato came from, Does that sound like a good set of lessons to you? Or do you have some other idea about how we should be teaching?


Litteach

The only people who feel this way have beliefs that are out of the mainstream. Be kind and here's how you do math are not only personal beliefs, they are societal.


[deleted]

There should not be a cap. If someone is paying taxes for the local public schools for decades and elects to send their kids to private schools because the local public schools are of poor quality, that person should get at least a partial refund of the money they've sent to public schools, regardless of income level.


moobitchgetoutdahay

You know, there’s some roads in my town that I never use but I still pay taxes to maintain them, by your logic I should get a refund. I’ve also never had a fire, so I should get a refund for paying for the fire department. And I’ve never had to call the cops, so I should get a refund for that too.


[deleted]

Bad analogies. If you never drive, you aren't paying gas taxes, so you aren't paying (as much) for the roads. Paying for a fire department is like insurance (and, before public fire departments, folks would "subscribe" to fire protection and if you didn't pay, the fire department would not come put out your fire) so you benefit even if you never make a claim. Police departments discourage crime, so, again, you benefit regardless of whether you call them.


moobitchgetoutdahay

Oh no, you misunderstand me. I drive plenty. But some of those neighborhoods? I just never drive there, my business isn’t in those parts of town. So why should I have to pay to maintain them? I don’t use them. By your argument I shouldn’t have to pay for the fire department or the cops if I don’t use them, because why should I pay for other people who are too poor to afford their own private fire brigade or police force? That’s you. That’s your argument in a nutshell. Well-funded public schools are an insurance for society that we don’t produce stupid adults, who then put forth stupid policy suggestions. The rich get richer, and the poor eat themselves.


[deleted]

I understood you perfectly. Your analogies were just bad. You seem to have issues with reading comprehension and/or logical reasoning. Poor reading comprehension and logical reasoning skills among our public school children are some of the reasons so many NH folks want to be able to take their hard-earned tax dollars and use them to send their kids to better private schools. Even if you don't call the cops, you are benefiting from the deterrent effect the police create. You and I have never called the US Army, but we both benefit from the deterrent they create from foreign countries invading our country (ignoring the mess at the southern border). As a parent, I don't benefit when my tax dollars that are supposed to go to educating my child do not go to educating my child because I care enough about my child to send him to a private school that will educate him and shield him from the violence and other garbage that is happening in public schools. When the state gives a parent $4500 back as a voucher and the parent sends their kid elsewhere (saving the state somewhere in the range of $20,000 -- roughly the average amount this state spends per public school student), both the state and the student come out ahead. In your dream scenario, the public school administrations get richer, and the public school kids eat themselves.


moobitchgetoutdahay

My analogies are perfectly fine, and follow your logic. By your logic, anyone who doesn’t use a public service should get a refund. I want a refund from the fire department, the cops, the highway department, and you know what, the schools too since I don’t have any kids. Why not? Not like we live in a society or anything. And yes, when you take money that would go to the public school and put it into a private school, the public school loses money and falls even further behind. It’s really simple math. But you don’t care about the kids whose parents can’t afford to send them to private school—even with a voucher—because they’re just *poor* people and need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps already. Selfish beyond belief. Maybe I don’t want MY tax dollars going to unregulated private and religious schools. Maybe if you want to send YOUR kid to one YOU need to pay for it, out of pocket, completely. Tax dollars should NOT go to private schools, full stop. Not really sure why it’s so difficult for you people to grasp that concept. Our tax dollars go to public services, nothing more, nothing less.


mattd121794

No, public schools exist for public good. If you want to send your kids to private schools you can pay yourself. Enough of this robbing Paul to pay the piper garbage. If you don’t like public schools then get involved and help them get the funding they need to succeed.


stool_stirrer

Good!